The TJ stands for Tate Jeep Buildup

[Shaggy]

bronco rear 4" lift springs

[AggieTJ2007]

I vote for leafs because you will probably actually get it done and wheel it

[Shaggy]

:gigem:
I vote for leafs because you will probably actually get it done and wheel it

[AggieTJ2007]

but if you are going to do it pick up some stock height leafs or even better run those spring under and you won't have to build and anti wrap bar

[Shaggy]

I can actually get these about 4" shorter in the rear once I cut out the old brackets and make some other modifications... although I thought about sprung under and decided I didn't really want to go that way. stock springs might be a must though... wish I hadnt sold the pile of stock ones I had a couple months ago

[eight]

You may way to recess the mounts into the frame like Scott would do. When I had leaf springs, the mounts were something I got hung up on. You could probably get away with one less leaf in those packs too.

So it's gonna turn out looking like the old Kurt jeep? Except with the correct shape of headlights.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v160/ryankopecki/misc/DCP_2388.jpg

[robertf03]

will you be switching to a fuel cell?

[Shaggy]

will you be switching to a fuel cell?

with the rear axle where it is the tank will have to move up into the back or a cell... dont know which way yet

[colman]

if you feel like droping some coin i think it is gen right that makes a fuel tank that goes in stock location but clearanced for moving the axle back several inches

[Shaggy]

if you feel like droping some coin i think it is gen right that makes a fuel tank that goes in stock location but clearanced for moving the axle back several inches

no thanks I will put is somewhere else to save some money...the transfercase is going to take the budget

[AggieTJ2007]

yeah and with a genright you can't move the axle that far back with a larger axle such as a 60 or 14 bolt. I think you only get 3 or 4 inches

[AggieTJ2007]

there is an RCI fuel cell that you can add a ring too and use the stock TJ fuel pump and it will fit behind the back seat if you have it inside or you can drop it down into the floor

[agjohn02]

I vote for leafs because you will probably actually get it done and wheel it

a bolt in LJ kit would be more likely

[Shaggy]

I am actually pretty productive at things that I know how to work on... and everything I am doing on the jeep I have done before. so this really shouldnt take that long

[bburris]

Leaves on TJ's are soooo five years ago...

:flipoff2:

[DRAGOONRANCH]

I think you only get 3 or 4 inches


That's what she said!

[bburris]

On a more productive note, using XJ leaf packs mixed with some YJ leaves netted a pretty flat spring for me and moved the wheelbase to either 99 or 100". I need to do something very different with the front spring mount, though, because I ended up with way too much lift.

[robertf03]

Are you doing leaf springs up front too?

I would think twice about moving the axle if it requires moving the tank to the bed. I can barely fit all of the **** I take off roading in an enclosed SUV, Jeeps already have a tiny cargo area. If the wheelbase sucks that much why don't you sell it and buy a long wheelbase TJ?

[Shaggy]

ya small inside but only need space for trail tools... I keep all other tools at camp. all it really does is take away the back seat which we never use anyways

[Shaggy]

well the front is turning out a little better than the rear. I tried it out with the front springs off the bronco (f350 fronts with leafs removed). Wheel base is sitting at 101" right now but I may move the rear back another inch or two. the tires stick out kinda far in the front as seen in the 3rd pic. the rear is a bit more narrow

[uglyota]

BDR? Squares?

[BMFScout]

Why don't you sell this and go buy a YJ or CJ?

[Shaggy]

why does this club have to give everyone a hard time when they want to build something new. I already have the jeep and dont feel like finding a different one

[AggieTJ2007]

i like it, should be simple w/ the reliability of a factory fuel injected motor and ac

[robertf03]

why does this club have to give everyone a hard time when they want to build something new. I already have the jeep and dont feel like finding a different one


you're taking a vehicle built in 2004 and using only the engine and transmission, downgrading the suspension, changing the wheelbase, eliminating any storage or utility the vehicle may have had, and likely ending up with something so unstreetable that it can no longer be considered an extra vehicle or pass a vehicle safety inspection.

if thats what you want, great. There are MUCH better platforms to start with.

[jerryg79]

you...with the logic....OUT!

[robertf03]

you...with the logic....OUT!

sorry, does wanting this build to happen make me a bad person?

[colman]

i have plenty of space for tools and spares in my cj5 along with a big cooler. what the hell do you bring on the trail with you that you can't fit it in that top heavy rover thingy

[robertf03]

camping ****, clothes, food, etc.

[FJAggie07]

you're taking a vehicle built in 2004 and using only the engine and transmission, downgrading the suspension, changing the wheelbase, eliminating any storage or utility the vehicle may have had, and likely ending up with something so unstreetable that it can no longer be considered an extra vehicle or pass a vehicle safety inspection.

if thats what you want, great. There are MUCH better platforms to start with.

There is a fine line in building up a vehicle totake on the extreme terrain and normally that line requires quite a bit of money to have all the things you listed and still be able to perform.

I do not condone nor discriminate against anyones build in any of my clubs simply dueto the fact that I do not know their financial or logistical reason for building up their vehicle. For instance I have no clue why anyone would own or modify a vehicle from a company prided on crappy quality, doesn't make sense to me but who am I to judge, I have owned crappy cars in the past also for the right price.

[FJAggie07]

camping ****, clothes, food, etc.

That is the idea that would one drive their rig to the trail. In this club you are only cool with a tow rig and trailer! ;)

[robertf03]

For instance I have no clue why anyone would own or modify a vehicle from a company prided on crappy quality, doesn't make sense to me but who am I to judge, I have owned crappy cars in the past also for the right price.

we lie about the quality to keep the riff raff from owning them ;)

[colman]

maybe you should learn to be a more efficient packer

[FJAggie07]

maybe you should learn to be a more efficient packer

[Que Ed for "Thats what she said!"]

[KrazyKarl02]

maybe you should learn to be a more efficient packer

Colman can probably give you a few pointers, he always has his **** packed!

[Shaggy]

i dont need this as an extra vehicle either... it is for the trail and the fact that it is newish and has low miles makes me feel more comfortable about it on the trail. I dont need much power just lots of gearing

[AggieTJ2007]

do it.

rant on: I love how this club never likes the way that someone is building something. It is not that way that I would do it but it is not my jeep. I am just glad that someone in this club is actually building something new that will actually wheel. I haven't seen any of the new members build something that will ever see the trail and be as capable as this jeep will be even with leaf springs.

Everyone has to start somewhere with a rig and this is a start, if a couple years down the road he decides that he wants to link it and add coilovers he can. Maybe 4 links front and rear aren't feasable with his budget right now and he would rather have a 4 speed atlas. I understand that he will go more places with leafs and gearing than 4 link and no gearing.

rant off: :flipoff2:

[eight]

Look up what tank Scott used in Lynda's jeep. It is under the body where it is supposed to be.

[Sharpe]

As far as storage you could always just take the DavidO approach and tack-weld all your nuts in so you only have to carry one toolbag with an adjustable crescent wrench and your lunch in it. :flipoff2:

[AggieTJ2007]

see that right there is good tech

[Shaggy]

:gigem:
As far as storage you could always just take the DavidO approach and tack-weld all your nuts in so you only have to carry one toolbag with an adjustable crescent wrench and your lunch in it. :flipoff2:

[Shaggy]

I was just dragging the dana 30 out of the way and took a look at the lower control arms. they are fubared also... wouldnt have noticed if I hadnt pulled the axle... would have been a crappy first trip back to the trail if I had just replaced the uppers

[stx4wheeler]

How wide are your frame rails? Ford makes a good sized pancake tank that might work for you and is already setup for efi.

[Shaggy]

wider than the bronco in the rear.... but i am making some changes to the leafs in the back to lower it so not sure how much space I will have. for now I am going to just move the tank to the back. I will finish up the rest and come back to the fuel cell once I find out what room I will have under there

[BMFScout]

Sorry, I retract my previous statement. I'm not sure if a TJ with leaves on all four corners has ever been done. You are an innovator!

[Shaggy]

it will one day be linked... i just would rather have the atlas now and link it next year

[Shaggy]

when we decide to upgrade axles it wont be with fullwidth... we want to keep this thing small... 33" tires max

From earlier in the thread:haha:

[Eckert]

From earlier in the thread:haha:

looked what happened with 33's though!

[Shaggy]

32s

[AggieTJ2007]

yeah and he tore the whole front suspension literally to pieces.

Oh you need to pick up a winch, the warn m8000 has worked great for me and is pretty cheap

[DRAGOONRANCH]

You have to give it to him though, he didn't do it until he was on his way home. :D

(in retrospect, had he not flat towed, he may have parked it and not found out how bad it was until he was in the middle of a new trail at katemcy 2 ;) )

[Shaggy]

Well today wasn't the best day. We are having some problems with the baby so the Dr put my wife on bedrest until he comes. This means an extra 2 months off work for her that puts a 10k dent in our income. Plus Medical expenses are going to be much higher than we were expecting. I am going to put the stock axles back in the jeep and sell it. After we recover from this financially I will buy something new and go from there. But when things like this happen you have to weigh what is most important. Hopefully I will be able to get something new later this year but that all depends on how these next few months go.

[KrazyKarl02]

Good luck to you, my sister had to be on bed rest for 3 months. Sucks about the jeep, but let me know if you need a trail seat!

[AggieTJ2007]

sorry the hear about that, I hope that everything goes well

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Tell her we wish her well. Jeep, or wife and baby, that decision makes it self. ;)

[FJAggie07]

X2 Tate. Please let us know if you need any help or anything. That does suck but take care of her and y'all can pull through.

[bcolman]

sorry to hear this, i hope all goes well

[stx4wheeler]

Good luck with the kiddo man, and I wish you all the best luck.

[agjohn02]

Sucks to hear. Good luck you you both. You definitely have your priorities in order.


How much for the Jeep without axles or suspension?

[Shaggy]

I am putting it back together with the stock axles and 32's... Going to try and get $12,500 for it

[colman]

do you have good controll arms, are there any stock parts that were fubared that you need. i may be able to get my hands on them

[AggieTJ2007]

still have the welded rear?

[Shaggy]

I need both upper and lower control arms, a dana 30 yoak, and the front piece of the driveshaft and yes the rear is still welded nicely

[agjohn02]

yoak

holy geez

[bburris]

I can hook you up with (at least) the control arms. I'm pretty sure we have an abundance.

[BMFScout]

I would unweld the rearend, that screams ghetto off-road rig to potential buyer.

[Seth]

I thought the same thing, but figured there was no point to sayin anything...

[AggieTJ2007]

it wouldn't be too hard you would just have to find some new spiders for the rear and and pull the welded ones out

[colman]

i may have some control arms but if brett can get them to you then that would work, if the yoke is the same as cj 30's then i have a dozen and you can have one

[Shaggy]

thanks guys. for the rear end I will probably swap out the carrier and spiders for open ones.
Brett let me know about the control arms. How much for a set?

[Shaggy]

well the jeep got mostly put back together the other day. I spent the extra time to clean everything really well and hit it with some paint. still need to hook brakes back up and driveshafts and repair oil pan. still need to swap out the welded rear too(if I end up doing that) and get new yoke and front driveshaft. I think I am going to warrenty out the two front tires too... they got pretty eaten up when the control arms gave out

[agjohn02]

yoke

Yay!

[agjohn02]

warrenty

Boo!

[Busa]

My jeep may be up for sale at the end of the year or first of next year. Will make you a good deal on it.

[Shaggy]

drove it yesterday for the first time since clayton... things left to do before I sell it
-Exaust hangers (clunks around from kissing rocks)
-Oil pan (I patched it but it still leaks a little)
-Front Yoke and Driveshaft (still need to get them)
-Trade out a tire or two at discount
-Replace plastic in new to me window (thanks Burris)
-Detail it (very dirty)

[Shaggy]

I drilled out the yoke and canadian rigged it... it is 4wd again... I wouldn't wheel it this way though... bet it wouldnt last long... I really need to hit the yards

[AggieTJ2007]

did you drill it out and put ubolts on instead of straps? if so I bet it would last pretty long as long as the nipples are still there on the side

[Shaggy]

no i drilled it enough to reverse the broken bolts out... only half the threads left

[AggieTJ2007]

shouldn't be too bad, no easy out? I used to use them and the bolts would come out pretty easy

[Shaggy]

used easy out... had to use drill bit with it... the cutting part wasnt making any progress

[Shaggy]

well I guess I get to keep this thing afterall.

had some time to think about what direction I want to go. I am now thinking instead of the atlas 4 speed I will go with a 4:1 kit and a slip yoke eliminator kit to keep it cheapish. I want to 4 link the rear right off instead. I figure I can just run a TJ long arm kit on the front axle to keep it simple. Going to wheel it a couple more times while I gather up what I need to swap in the bronco axles.

[Shaggy]

snapped a 35 shaft... time for the won tons I guess

[AggieTJ2007]

pictures? where were you wheeling at?

[Eckert]

I am now thinking instead of the atlas 4 speed I will go with a 4:1 kit and a slip yoke eliminator kit to keep it cheapish.

why not try to buy or build a D300 w/ a 4:1 kit?

seems like it would be cheaper and yield more room for improvement:

NP231:
4:1 $750
SYE $200
total $950

D300:
case $200
4:1 $550
sell 231 -$100
Total $650

[AggieTJ2007]

why not try to buy or build a D300 w/ a 4:1 kit?

seems like it would be cheaper and yield more room for improvement:

NP231:
4:1 $750
SYE $200
total $950

D300:
case $200
4:1 $550
sell 231 -$100
Total $650

you forgot about building shifters/flipping the 300

you will need a clocking ring and oval out one of the holes in the transmission to flip the 300

[Eckert]

you forgot about building shifters/flipping the 300

you will need a clocking ring and oval out one of the holes in the transmission to flip the 300

you could do both of those for well under the $300 difference.

[tommy53002]

I've got a clocking ring for a dana 300 ill sell ya if you need one.

[AggieTJ2007]

you could do both of those for well under the $300 difference.

you forgot new drivelines w/ the d300 but that may be a moot point since he is going to won tons

i would go with the 231/300 doubler. i don't like 4:1 gearsets in the 300's i think they are one of the main reasons you see cracked casses on 300s

[redcagepatrol]

Busa has gone thru several sets of 4:1 gears in his 231. I would not suggest that route...

[AggieTJ2007]

How do they break and we are talking about Busa here too

So 4:1 gearsets are weaker than stock sets so you should build a 231 300 doubler. Burris should be able to get you a good deal on a d300 as well

[AggieTJ2007]

How do they break and we are talking about Busa here too

So 4:1 gearsets are weaker than stock sets so you should build a 231 300 doubler. Burris should be able to get you a good deal on a d300 as well

[agjohn02]

pictures? where were you wheeling at?

he was just trying to pull it up on a rock on the side of the road for pictures.

[Shaggy]

pictures? where were you wheeling at?

i have some on my phone I will transfer later... where is not important at this time. as far as the gearing direction I dont really know which way I will go. I was actually considering a rubicon case. It is stronger than a 231, has sye and 4:1.

[redcagepatrol]

How do they break and we are talking about Busa here too


Clayton...
http://picasaweb.google.com/scott.n.lynda/Clayton111409#5404819202964129298

the bushings crush - result in the complete loss of 4lo

[Eckert]

i have some on my phone I will transfer later... where is not important at this time. as far as the gearing direction I dont really know which way I will go. I was actually considering a rubicon case. It is stronger than a 231, has sye and 4:1.

you able to find one less than ~$1200? that's used atlas(or built D300) territory.

[Shaggy]

here are some cell phone pics

[uglyota]

looks nice and legal. At least you didn't try to run the iroks on the poor thing

[Seth]

tow truck? boo.

[Shaggy]

how else would it get home?

[Sparling]

how else would it get home?

duct tape the axle in

[Seth]

trail fix and trailer?

wheres the pics of coops jeep with the log fix? i know its been done at least twice.

[Shaggy]

i dont have a trailer. i tried the tree trick with two 2x4's and they snapped. I drove it mostly out. I just had to stop jack it up and slide the shaft back in every 10-20 yards. the tow truck was to get me home

[JB]

Bigass diesel, but dont own a trailer. Sorry, had to say it.:flipoff2::flipoff2:

[Shaggy]

will own one one day

[Shaggy]

will have one for sure before Clayton this year. looking for deals. I would love a GN but seeing as they are much more expensive and there is noone from SA to fill the extra spot I don't know if I will go that way.

[Shaggy]

I ordered most of what I need to 4-link the rear. Hopefully parts will come in not long after I get back home to Texas.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

What kind of joints did you go with?

How is Tater Tot?

[Shaggy]

1.25" Johnny joints. Mason is doing great. He has proven he can handle 1000 miles of driving in a day a couple times in the last couple weeks. Just 500 to go tomorrow and we are home.

[Shaggy]

Btw. Don't stay at microtel inn & suites in baton rouge. This place is gross

[85cj7]

Btw. Don't stay in baton rouge. This place is gross

Fixed it for ya:gigem:

[Shaggy]

4-link stuff came in. Beefy stuff, I can't wait to put it in.

[85cj7]

Beefy stuff, I can't wait to put it in.

:rainbow::flipoff2:

[Sparling]

4-link stuff came in. Beefy stuff, I can't wait to put it in.

If you work on it, anytime in the next month, let me know, I can help/learn/buy those parts from you.

[Shaggy]

I will be off Monday and Tuesday. I plan on spending some time on it then.

[bcolman]

where did you order the parts from?

[Shaggy]

Polly performance

[Shaggy]

The only work I got done on my days off way two days spent rebuilding the closet in the pepsquad closet. I did however get the garage picked up enough to start work up in again.

[Shaggy]

I ordered rockstomper 10.25 disc brackets yesterday. They should be in later this week. I will be working on it Friday and Saturday if anyone is in town and wants to partake in some frosty beverages.

[uglyota]

The only work I got done on my days off way two days spent rebuilding the closet in the pepsquad closet. I did however get the garage picked up enough to start work up in again.

Jerry, I think Seth's got himself some competition for "Story of the Year" award

[Seth]

I dunno, his is at least an unpdate in his own thread.

[uglyota]

I always visit buildup threads to read about rebuilding closets in closets

[mudtoy67]

You could come out of the closet without even coming out of the closet! :p

[uglyota]

I'll never come out of the closet!

wait, what?

[jerryg79]

You could come out of the closet without even coming out of the closet! :p

gay inception?

[mudtoy67]

gay inception?

Are you baiting me for a certain movie reference?:flipoff2:





baiting...not batin' Ed.:blackflipoff2:

[Shaggy]

Get out of my thread

[uglyota]

If you guys ever find yourselves in Denver I recommend you check out Benny's. It'll give Coco Loco a run for its money, I can tell you that much...

:flipoff2:

[uglyota]

also, if you're on the Western slope, Carbondale apparently has a pretty rad taco joint that's worth going out of your way for. Creighton what was that place called again?

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Are you baiting me for a certain movie reference?:flipoff2:





baiting...not batin' Ed.:blackflipoff2:

They don't call me Master Ed for nothin. :gigem:

[Shaggy]

The disc brackets came in the other day. For some reason one of the holes is threaded wrong in one side. It won't be hard to fix just annoying. Had to do lots of grinding on the 10.25 to get the truss centered. Even had to notch one side of it also. Got it tacked on. I have no idea where my welding hood is. The last time I used it was in Clayton. Did it end up with anyone else? I also started to cut off factory tj brackets... It is going to take many hours of grinding to get the frame clean. I pulled the gas tank also. What is the contraption hidden in the back of the passanger fender that hooks to the gas tank for? It has several vacuum lines to it I believe.

[RCcola55]

emissions ****.

[Shaggy]

Do i need to keep it?

[TexTJ209]

Evap Canister and Leak detection pump. Remove it if you like check engine lights.

[AggieTJ2007]

mines under the hood

[TexTJ209]

Changed locations in 2003 IIRC.

[Shaggy]

I guess it is going in the backseat with the tank then

[TexTJ209]

I think there are some issues with changing the length of the leak detector pump hoses, so if you relocate keep em the same length if possible.

[85cj7]

http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=662992

[Shaggy]

Comp cut and frame chop have been done. Pics are on Facebook.

[robertf03]

looks like an odd place to cut the frame. were there directions?

[Shaggy]

no but i am going to add onto it going up a little more then back and down in the very rear. that was a good place where the frame rail was close to the same size as I am using materials. It is very similar to where Creighton did his. look in his thread and see.

[uglyota]

Pics are on Facebook.

this buildup thread just keeps getting better!

[DRAGOONRANCH]

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/TAMOR/Tater%20Tot/36788_10100356554239324_8318367_668.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/TAMOR/Tater%20Tot/44791_10100356554663474_8318367_668.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/TAMOR/Tater%20Tot/45546_10100356555641514_8318367_668.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/TAMOR/Tater%20Tot/44813_10100356556449894_8318367_668.jpg

[DRAGOONRANCH]

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/TAMOR/Tater%20Tot/40593_10100347330972824_8318367_664.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/TAMOR/Tater%20Tot/40612_10100347329126524_8318367_664.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/TAMOR/Tater%20Tot/44591_10100356556225344_8318367_668.jpg

[DRAGOONRANCH]

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/TAMOR/Tater%20Tot/39638_10100347328652474_8318367_664.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/TAMOR/Tater%20Tot/40302_10100347330194384_8318367_664.jpg

[Shaggy]

thanks Ed. I can upload pics to facebook from my phone but not to the board. that is why they are there

[BMFScout]

If I were you I would just keep chopping, then pile it up by the curb. Be sure to take a pic of the pile for the buildup.:flipoff2:

[uglyota]

******* *******!

[AggieTJ2007]

holy **** this is not going to end well

[Seth]

Is it paid for yet? Out of warranty?

[Shaggy]

It isn't paid off. Couple more months. Never had a warranty. What does it matter anyways.

[AggieTJ2007]

Is it paid for yet? Out of warranty?

any good jeep build no will be the answer to both of those questions

[KrazyKarl02]

It isn't paid off.

:eek:

seriously

:eek:

seriously...

[Shaggy]

I owe less than I paid for the 4-link on it

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Is it paid for yet? Out of warranty?


any good jeep build no will be the answer to both of those questions

any EPIC jeep build, YES will be the answer to both of those questions!!

FIFY! :gigem:

[robertf03]

I owe less than I paid for the 4-link on it

This (http://www.cashforjunkcars.net/faq.php) should cover the balance

[DRAGOONRANCH]

:laughing:

[agjohn02]

This (http://www.cashforjunkcars.net/faq.php) should cover the balance

That might, but the real question is will this? (http://www.metalprices.com/) i guess it depends on how long this build thread goes on.

[Shaggy]

It is going to Clayton this year

[AggieTJ2007]

/are you bringing a trailer this year

[Shaggy]

Of course

[Shaggy]

I worked on the jeep a couple more hours tonight. I got all of the links up in place. The lower mounts are not tacked on yet just braced in place with jackstands. The front frame mounts are just clamped in right now I still need to clean up the frame rail some more for the bracket to fit flush

[AggieTJ2007]

looks good

[DRAGOONRANCH]

/are you bringing a trailer this year

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/GIFS/chair.gif


Of course

:gigem:

[eight]

I support this build. To build an offroad rig that is not a piece of ****, you should start with a vehicle that is not a piece of ****.

[Shaggy]

Thanks

[KrazyKarl02]

I support this build. To build an offroad rig that is not a piece of ****, you should start with a vehicle that is not a piece of ****.

That is what I did with the Klogger, I started with a reliable vehicle that I had to take a note on to afford.

[agjohn02]

I support this build. To build an offroad rig that is not a piece of ****, you should start with a vehicle that is not a piece of ****.

:flipoff2::laughing:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v160/ryankopecki/jeep%20mods/old_jeep_2.jpg

[Shaggy]

What does it really matter what kind of money I have in it. It isn't like I can't afford to do what I want. So suck on my balls you **** whore.

[Fredo]

That's a personal attack in a public section of the forum. I vote immediate banning of Tate.

[jerryg79]

but then we will never get to see this build complet......oh wait.

[CheapJeep]

Hey Tate, this is off topic but are you still working with HEB and if so is it at the corporate office? The reason I ask is because my sister just finished her master's at A&M and got a job at HEB's corporate office in S.A.

[Shaggy]

Still at heb. Store level though. I have been after an arsenal job but have been unsuccessful thus far.

[CheapJeep]

Cool, just checkin'

[Sharpe]

:flipoff2::laughing:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v160/ryankopecki/jeep%20mods/old_jeep_2.jpg
Well payed, ginge.


That's a personal attack in a public section of the forum. I vote immediate banning of Tate.
Seconded.

[eight]

:flipoff2::laughing:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v160/ryankopecki/jeep%20mods/old_jeep_2.jpg

Notice the word "should".

[DRAGOONRANCH]

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/TAMOR/Tater%20Tot/40793_10100358584904854_8318367_668.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/TAMOR/Tater%20Tot/41041_10100356671369594_8318367_668.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/TAMOR/Tater%20Tot/41049_10100358584291084_8318367_668.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/TAMOR/Tater%20Tot/41225_10100356674129064_8318367_668.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/TAMOR/Tater%20Tot/44566_10100358584036594_8318367_668.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/TAMOR/Tater%20Tot/44587_10100358585987684_8318367_668.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/TAMOR/Tater%20Tot/46232_10100356690685884_8318367_668.jpg

[Shaggy]

Thanks for adding the pics Ed. I should have the frame and springs finished up by the end of the weekend. Then I just have to tear it all down and fully weld it all up.

[stx4wheeler]

Sweet looks like like a good well put together kit.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Thanks for adding the pics Ed. I should have the frame and springs finished up by the end of the weekend. Then I just have to tear it all down and fully weld it all up.

No problem.

[KrazyKarl02]

I know nothing of the typical axle truss/4- link kit on a jeep, so educate me. In the picture from behind the rear end that truss bracket does not look centered on the pumpkin? Is it just the picture?

[DRAGOONRANCH]

The pumpkin is not centered?

[tigweld]

most factory drivetrains are offset to the pass side, I bet it looks like that to get the upper links in the center. or the maybe the sterling has the pinion centered, making the diff offset

[Shaggy]

The pinion is offset on the axle. The truss is centered

[stx4wheeler]

Rubicon 4:1 tcase with driveshaft and shifter Tate, just thought I'd pass the info along.

http://www.texas4x4.org/showthread.php?t=35005

[AggieTJ2007]

price is a little high that is almost half of a 4sp atlas

[RCcola55]

thats much less then what i have seen them going for.

[Shaggy]

wife went out of town and took the baby so after work today I listened to the game on the radio, drank beer and made good progress. 4-link is complete now. just have to pull it apart and finish weld it up. i figure a full day of welding to get finished out. I really like how it turned out. jeep sits 6' 6" with 37's. i am running stock jeep springs with the 3" spacer lift. I will upgrade to lift springs later on to make it less ghetto

[Shaggy]

pics and yes I re-used the original frame rail backwards on the opposite side

[agjohn02]

That kinda looks cool, but I would be sure and plate the hell out of all four sides of that joint.

[Shaggy]

When I tear it apart to finish weld it I plan on welding in some bracing

[agjohn02]

Does the bank know you're doing this to their Jeep?

[Shaggy]

It is paid off as of 15 min ago

[DRAGOONRANCH]

It is paid off as of 15 min ago

Haha Cox, he sure showed you! :flipoff2:

[FJAggie07]

It is paid off as of 15 min ago

thats funny!

[agjohn02]

It isn't paid off. Couple more months. Never had a warranty. What does it matter anyways.


It is paid off as of 15 min ago

NICE!:gigem:


Haha Cox, he sure showed you! :flipoff2:


That burn cost him a pretty penny.

[Shaggy]

well since it is now paid off i canceled insurance on it to save some cash. I have been paying $80 a month for it to sit in my garage.

[Shaggy]

went through two tanks of gas on the welder and am about out of rods. gonna hit up tractor supply before they close for the day. I didnt realize how much welding there actually was to do

[agjohn02]

oh my...

[FJAggie07]

well since it is now paid off i canceled insurance on it to save some cash. I have been paying $80 a month for it to sit in my garage.


oh my...

Same response I had.

[Shaggy]

i wouldnt do a claim on it anyways so what does it matter if I have insurance. I can add it back before a trip if need be

[agjohn02]

Same response I had.

mine was directed at the stick welding

[FJAggie07]

i wouldnt do a claim on it anyways so what does it matter if I have insurance. I can add it back before a trip if need be


mine was directed at the stick welding

Tate, I wasn't say anything mean or derogatory, was just saying oh my you were paying payments and insurance on a jeep that was sitting un movable in your garage, that sucks... Glad to see you got it paid off and not throwing money at insurance for no reason.

[Shaggy]

mine was directed at the stick welding

Sorry I'm not baller I stick weld and it works plenty good.

[uglyota]

Glad to see you got it paid off and not throwing money at insurance for no reason.

yeah and you're really smart to do it this way instead of buying a salvage or otherwise non-titled jeep to make into a non-street legal buggy. Any project that starts with 3 yrs of payments is way mo betta. I thought you had stopped being retarded somewhere along the line? MIG isn't baller it makes sense when you're welding thin-ass framerails together...don't act like you're too smart to spend money on a nice welder when you're in the middle of cutting up a late-model vehicle

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Good stuff Tate. You need to just buy your rods by the keg and be done with it.

[Fredo]

Is the guy?.......is the bear?....

[DRAGOONRANCH]

:laughing:

[FJAggie07]

yeah and you're really smart to do it this way instead of buying a salvage or otherwise non-titled jeep to make into a non-street legal buggy. Any project that starts with 3 yrs of payments is way mo betta. I thought you had stopped being retarded somewhere along the line? MIG isn't baller it makes sense when you're welding thin-ass framerails together...don't act like you're too smart to spend money on a nice welder when you're in the middle of cutting up a late-model vehicle

Was this directed at Tate or me?

[DRAGOONRANCH]

tater salad.

[jerryg79]

Was this directed at Tate or me?

if the shoe fits:flipoff2:

[agjohn02]

Was this directed at Tate or me?

***

[agjohn02]

Sorry I'm not baller I stick weld and it works plenty good.

My Scout is 98% stick welds. I have confidence in my skills, not yours. I see what you're doing there, with the cell phone camera, and the fuzzy pictures, and what used to be a nice jeep...

[DRAGOONRANCH]

http://design.mellowmushroomblogs.com/files/2009/07/no-harsh-mid.jpg

[Shaggy]

Why must this club bash everything. You are not going to scare me off. But I will do what I want

[uglyota]

uhhh...yeah, mighta been a little buzzed when I wrote that, but seriously this is dumb. Your jeep's now worth like 5gs less than the sum of its parts

[DRAGOONRANCH]

uhhh...yeah, mighta been a little buzzed when I wrote that, but seriously this is dumb. Your jeep's now worth like 5gs less than the sum of its parts

You're just jealous he has air conditioning (and not the 2/60 kind). :flipoff2:

[bburris]

Your jeep's now worth like 5gs less than the sum of its parts

Sounds like almost every other vehicle in this club. Who cares? It's his Jeep to do with as he pleases, this has no real bearing on any of our lives and if it gets parted out or sold in six months none of us will be affected in any way. It's not like this is much different than me cutting the rear suspension off my Jeep six years ago to put leaf springs on it. It was six years old at the time, which just so happens to be the same age this one currently is. I'll concede that mine had been paid off for a couple of years and wasn't in fantastic condition, but it was still ultimately my decision to do something to a second vehicle that wasn't generally thought of as a good idea. It worked for a couple of trips and now it's a permanent fixture holding my garage floor down. Worked out great for everyone! :flipoff2:

[uglyota]

whether or not it affects me doesn't have any bearing on it being dumb...anyway I'm out of this, sorry about last night's post...good luck with the heep tate and be sure and post pictures of the ticket after you haul this thing to the scrapyard :flipoff2:

[AggieTJ2007]

yeah and you're really smart to do it this way instead of buying a salvage or otherwise non-titled jeep to make into a non-street legal buggy. Any project that starts with 3 yrs of payments is way mo betta. I thought you had stopped being retarded somewhere along the line? MIG isn't baller it makes sense when you're welding thin-ass framerails together...don't act like you're too smart to spend money on a nice welder when you're in the middle of cutting up a late-model vehicle

That's what we have been trying to tell the newbies for years that the best idea is to cut up your DD that is reliable and not yet payed for :flipoff2:

Anyways Tate it looks good and I can't wait to see it in Clayton I only wish mine had as nice of a body as yours

[agjohn02]

ok, i'll compromise. you clean the paint off before you weld over it and I'll ignore the fact that you dont even bother cleaning the welds up before you take a picture.

[FJAggie07]

if the shoe fits:flipoff2:

Thus the reason I asked. The shoe doesn't fit, everything I have done to my wheeling rig was paid in cash and done by people who have a lot more mechanical/fab skills then me! :flipoff2:

[agjohn02]

Thus the reason I asked. The shoe doesn't fit, everything I have done to my wheeling rig was paid in cash and done by people who have a lot more mechanical/fab skills then me! :flipoff2:

than

[DRAGOONRANCH]

than

:gigem:

[Shaggy]

just because the jeep was not paid off doesnt mean i didnt have the money in the bank to do so. I have had enough cash to pay for this thing from the day I bought it I just chose to keep it liquid

[mudtoy67]

Why must this club bash everything. You are not going to scare me off. But I will do what I want

You go girl!:gigem:


Are you planning on making this thing streetable when you're done?

[FJAggie07]

just because the jeep was not paid off doesnt mean i didnt have the money in the bank to do so. I have had enough cash to pay for this thing from the day I bought it I just chose to keep it liquid

Hook, line and sinker.

[Shaggy]

yes

[Shaggy]

4-link is done. still need brake lines and such but that will come after the front axle is in. I should have the new transfercase this week sometime also. Only have like 11 weeks left and plenty of work to do

[Shaggy]

disc done, transfercase here. rear tires on

[bcolman]

do you really need those spacers on the rear with it being under a jeep? oh and it is looking good

[Shaggy]

do you really need those spacers on the rear with it being under a jeep? oh and it is looking good


only with the h2 wheels... they dont fit all the way over the hub. when I get my wheels back from Will they will go away

[bcolman]

ahh, i've heard that before, it seems hit or miss if they fit over hubs or not

[Shaggy]

Will had them on his 10.25. he clearanced them with a grinder. They dont fit over mine because i have disc. I could have ground them more but didnt want to

[eight]

If I remember right, we had to clearance the ones on Kurt's YJ to fit over a 14 bolt.

[Eckert]

go have a machine shop cut them out for $25 a wheel.

[Shaggy]

i have a better set of wheels already... they are still on my old 40's though. Will needs to hurry up and get new wheels

[Fredo]

awsome!!!!!!!111!!!!1

[agjohn02]

awsome!!!!!!!111!!!!1

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

[Shaggy]

it will be fine... and if it isnt... then i will fix it... what of it

[colman]

so backs done. kudos. hows progress on the front...

[Eckert]

Did you weld a plate to the inside as well? Are there and cross members between the t case mount and rear bumper?

[Shaggy]

didnt do inside because i have some factory stuff to trim off still... it is in the plans before i finish it all... front has not been started at all. rear looks like pic... no rear bumper though

[85cj7]

what did you do for body mounts?

[Shaggy]

They will be added to the crossmember in back

[85cj7]

Hey Tate, selling the front two sway bar links to help out the new guy?

[Shaggy]

10-4

[Shaggy]

I am trying to figure out what direction I want to go with on the front. I was planning on doing the 3-link but have kinda changed my mind. I am thinking TJ long arm kit and use extra money on other areas of the jeep. looking at the differences I dont think one will perform better than the other. Thoughts?

[robertf03]

Tj long arms are basically radius arms. I think they are the best compromise of streetability and offroad durability. 3 link flexes great, but isn't at all streetable

[AggieTJ2007]

Why do you say that flem my 3 link drives fine on the street well as good as you can expect with full hydro