The TJ stands for Tate Jeep Buildup

[AggieTJ2007]

Why do you say that flem my 3 link drives fine on the street well as good as you can expect with full hydro

[stx4wheeler]

Why do you say that flem my 3 link drives fine on the street well as good as you can expect with full hydro


Why do you say that flem my 3 link drives fine on the street well as good as you can expect with full hydro

You can say that again!

[RCcola55]

Im pretty sure your standard of driving fine and the rest of the developed world's standard, are completely different.

[AggieTJ2007]

Yeah probably but I did say fine not good

[Shaggy]

3-link ordered. I was going to go the long arm way but called Poly Performance and they knocked the 3-link kit down to $1,000 so it should be here within the week

[breckboarder55]

I've heard of several people having no issues on the street with the Poly 3-link. It would be my choice if I had a DD and $.

[Shaggy]

tera case is in. linkage is a little different between a TJ and YJ... wouldn't go into 2H with TJ linkage so am gonna get the right bracket from Busa

[breckboarder55]

Tera 4:1 kit for a 231?

[Shaggy]

correct... busa's old case

[Shaggy]

crappy pic is tj one, good pic is yj one... see the difference. tj on a yj case wont let you get into 2H

[bburris]

3-link ordered. I was going to go the long arm way but called Poly Performance and they knocked the 3-link kit down to $1,000 so it should be here within the week

Damn, I need to get you to call them with my CC info when I'm ready to order mine.

[Shaggy]

I wish I would have called on the 4-link. I paid retail for it.

[Shaggy]

t-case shifter bracket came in today, picked up a warn m8000 and 3-link should make it in tomorrow.... time to get to work

if you are ever going to buy something from 4wp they will price match anything you find online. i got my winch for 485+tax

[Shaggy]

damn i phone and upsidedown pics

[Shaggy]

fixed

[KrazyKarl02]

485 seems like a good deal for a warn 8000

[FJAggie07]

485 seems like a good deal for a warn 8000

Agreed, great proven quality winch for <$500.

[Shaggy]

Winch is all mounted up. Also got the 3-link in. Am gonna have to do some research because it isn't very self-explanatory. Pics are on facebook if you wanna see

[Shaggy]

pics

[robertf03]

the 8000 dropped to the $400 range when the chinese winch invasion started. I'm a little suspicious about why a 9000lb is twice the price.

[KrazyKarl02]

Take the solenoid box and mount it under your hood, it will last longer and look cleaner.

[sasquatch]

where online did you find it for that price? i'm going to houston tomorrow and would like to pick one up while i'm in town.

[Sharpe]

Thats a prety goddam good price for a brand new trailer winch.

[JB]

yeah, where?

[mudtoy67]

the 8000 dropped to the $400 range when the chinese winch invasion started. I'm a little suspicious about why a 9000lb is twice the price.

Speaking of the chinese...just got this yesterday

Someone hurry and buy one so I know if I should pick one up for my trailer:D
http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/6506/73640188.jpg

[bburris]

the 8000 dropped to the $400 range when the chinese winch invasion started. I'm a little suspicious about why a 9000lb is twice the price.

Winch prices have more than enough markup for them to still be making plenty on the M8000 at $500.

[breckboarder55]

the 8000 dropped to the $400 range when the chinese winch invasion started. I'm a little suspicious about why a 9000lb is twice the price.

You can get a Warn made Tabor 9k for about $650.

But $485 for an M8000 seems pretty good to me.

[AggieTJ2007]

pics

http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/images/D/d_2251-05.jpg

you have 2 frame brackets a 2 track bar brackets and 4 axle brackets, one to go ontop of the pumpkin and to come off the axle. not too hard but you have to use a little intuition to figure out where you want everything.

oh watch drivesshaft/ upper link mount clearance

[Shaggy]

I just googles warn m8000. A website had it for 539 with 10% off. It expired the 20th though

[Shaggy]

well I played around with the 3-link parts a little and figured out how all the brackets go together. I will have to get the axle under it to see where everything will mount on the frame and axle though. It is a whole lot less confusing once you figure out that 4 of the pieces go together to create one bracket, two pieces weld to the lower link bracket for the one upper link and there are two spare pieces that are opposite if you are running other side drop axle.

[Shaggy]

All i got done today after work was I got all the inserts welded into the links and the Johnny joints put on them. I am off Monday and Tuesday and hope to atleast get the framerail cleaned up, pull the 60 from under th bronco and set it under the jeep, lay out everything and see how it is all going to fit under there. Also gonna try and figure out exactly where my wheelbase is gonna end up. I think it is gonna be 110-112".

[Shaggy]

i worked on the 3-link today and made some good progress. I think I have it how I want it now. I started with the upper link on the pass side but then moved it to the driver side. Busa said it works better on the pumpkin side and it turns out it fits better on that side anyways. I still have lots of grinding to clean things up before I can weld anything in place. My torch screwed up. I had been using it off and on all day, I came back from lunch turned the bottles on and the oxygen bottle PSI went through the roof and blew my hose up. I think my gauge took a crap on me or something because it didn't get adjusted at all from when I used it earlier. Not having the torch is gonna slow progress down a lot.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Sounds like the diaphragm on your regulator took a ****. Some can be rebuilt, just take it to your local welding supply and see if they have parts for it. (I would just get a new one and be done with it though I believe.)

[Shaggy]

it is a victor and should be able to rebuild for cheaper

[Shaggy]

There are pics from today on facebook if anyone wants to tell me I am doing something wrong

[bcolman]

it is looking good, but i do not know anything about link setups so i guess its not worth much

[stx4wheeler]

Just get a new regulator it is like 50 bones.

[Shaggy]

picked up a master cylinder and ordered a new oil pan. Pan should be in tomorrow. I need to sell some more crap. My off-road account is now in the red.

[Shaggy]

started to swap the master. I came across this problem. The area circled in red is different. The New one is a smaller size. his means it will not work correct?

[FJAggie07]

nice steel toes...

[Shaggy]

Thanks. they have been good boots.

[85cj7]

I'm pretty sure that is what they call the bore diameter and yes they do have to be the same. I would look up the part descriptions on someones website and see what it said. I remember having to match the bore size when of the yj master when I switched to the corvette one.

[eight]

No. Bore size is the diameter of the hole for the piston. In these swaps, what you're trying to do is get a bigger bore to push more fluid for the bigger brakes.

As far as will it work, I wouldn't know. Will it bolt up? Is that the one everyone else uses? If so, get to searching the pirate and the google to see if anyone else has had the issue.

[85cj7]

ya that makes sense kopeckers. I remember it being like 1 1/8" on mine which is smaller than the OD he had circled.

The mounting flange looks bigger on the new one (but it could be the angle of the pic). Same app as the swap on pirate4x4?

[Shaggy]

it bolts up fine and it is the one everyone else uses. just doesnt seem right to me

[AggieTJ2007]

that area that you circled is going to be bigger because the MC has a bigger bore therefore a larger piston.

it is right bolt it up and go

[85cj7]

if you haven't seen this. . .
http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=373571

[Shaggy]

Pulled the Oil pan to put the new one on and the Oil Pickup is a little smashed. Do I need to replace it or just leave it. It isnt that bad and doesnt seem to limit flow.

[mudtoy67]

The pickup assembly is 16 bucks at oreilly...just do it.

[Shaggy]

Made a little progress on the jeep today.
-installed new Oil Pan (no leaks yet cross fingers)
-installed new Master Cylinder
-Got Fuel lines plummed and gas tank secured
-reinstalled factory tail lights(temporary fix until i find some flush mounts I like)
-got 3-link brackets welded up to the frame

I started it up for the first time in many months. sounds good without a muffler but it will see an exaust shop as soon as it is mobile.

[Shaggy]

I just ordered the PSC Full Hydro, Austin is gonna pick it up from Lance's house and bring it down next weekend.

[Shaggy]

Austin will be in town tomorrow night and we are determined to get the jeep mostly done this weekend. Clayton is only a few weeks away and my jeep is gonna make it damnit. Goals for the weekend are brake lines and bleed system, full hydro setup, finish up front suspension, transmission crossmember, transfercase shifter. The. All I will have left is set front gears, exaust, and driveshafts. I think that is prettymuch it.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Hell yeah! Do work son!

[mudtoy67]

I think that is prettymuch it.

I think I've sung this song before.:flipoff2:

Good luck!:laughing:

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Yeah, but you didn't have Austin on the job did you? :flipoff2:

[mudtoy67]

Thank God...I hate getting felt up by a dude when I'm trying to work.:D

[Shaggy]

I plan on going with Fox air shocks for the front suspention. I was wondering how much travel should I go with?

[bcolman]

why dont you flex it out and see how much travel you have first?:flipoff2:

[AggieTJ2007]

GD captian ovious has joined the boards

[Shaggy]

why dont you flex it out and see how much travel you have first?:flipoff2:

Because it is 3-link and the air shocks will be the limiting factor.

[Shaggy]

I'm thinking 12" travel will be good. 19.09"-31.09" range.

[Shaggy]

Damn poly performance had them as open box but are down to just one. Gotta spend more now for not jumping on this weeks ago

[Fredo]

I have a set of shocks on Lurch. I think they are Ranchos. I have stock shocks on my Tahoe. I think they might be worn out though. Oh wait, I forgot I did replace the front ones. I think the rear ones are toast. They are black. I like cereal. Beans are good. Bumble-Bee tuna.


Big gulps huh?....

[sam_hodnett]

:laughing: :gigem:

[Shaggy]

***. Damnit

[Sparling]

What parts did you use on your disk brake swap for the sterling?

[Shaggy]

Gm 3/4 front stuff. Same as everyother person on pirate

[Shaggy]

I spent a little time flexing it out and measuring and I can either go with the 12" or 14". I'm Leaning towards the 12" to keep it shorter

[AggieTJ2007]

I spent a little time flexing it out and measuring and I can either go with the 12" or 14". I'm Leaning towards the 12" to keep it shorter

I would go with the 14s if you can keep them underneath the hood and your ride height where you want it.

Basically put the front at full compression, measure how much room you have to mount the shock, and pick out a shock that fits, don't forget to add for tube and mounts

[tigweld]

12's are plenty enough for a front especially if yur going wit airshock's it will help having a shorter shock for when they unload on climbs. buy 2.5's if you can afford it.

[Shaggy]

I want 2.5s but the 2.0s are so much cheaper that it is hard to spend the extra

[Shaggy]

I got the ram tacked on. had to play with it for a while to get it to fit with the trackbar

[AggieTJ2007]

why not move the tie rod down to get rid of all of those washers or at least get some proper misalignment spacers.

Also move your ram down so that it is perfectly parallel and perfecly inline with the tie rod

[JB]

Shouldn't both rod ends of the ram be in teh same plane? And whats up with the washers?

[Shaggy]

Washers give me 1" more movement with tie rod not hitting the diff. It allows me to not put a stop in my 8" ram where I would have to put one in without them. They are temporary until I get proper hardware. I have read that there is nothing wrong with steering spacing as I do it right.

[Shaggy]

And jb. They don't Have to be the same.

[Shaggy]

I will move the ram forward a little though

[bcolman]

they do not have to be the same, but it will work more efficiently if they are in the same plane

[robertf03]

I'd get some castle nuts and cotter pins for the steering bolts, thats scary,almost as scary as 2000 pounds balanced on a high lift for a long term project.

[Sharpe]

I'd get some castle nuts and cotter pins for the steering bolts, thats scary,almost as scary as 2000 pounds balanced on a high lift for a long term project.

Not like its gonna bleed down or anything :flipoff2:

[RCcola55]

[QUOTE=JB;270660]Shouldn't both rod ends of the ram be in teh same plane? QUOTE]

Yes. How much more effort would it take to do it right the first time?

[Shaggy]

It wasn't on the highlift for more than 5 min for the pic.

[Shaggy]

i ordered a pair of fox 2.0 12" travel

[RCcola55]

go ahead an get a litrogen set up too, it will be a lot easier to fill and tune your shocks if you dont have to take them anywhere, plus the 2.0" are gonna need a bunch of air to hold up that jeep

[tigweld]

thats why i said 2.5's they would be at a much more desirable nitro level for the front of a full bodied jeep. airshocks are for light weight stuff, originally designed for buggy independand front ends.

[Shaggy]

Well they are on the way already. If they don't hold it up I will order the 2.5s and save the 2.0 for when the jeep gets back-halfed

[robertf03]

If they don't hold it up I will order the 2.5s and save the 2.0 for when the jeep gets back-halfed

waiting for the warranty to expire before cutting it?

[Shaggy]

It has been cut already actually

[JB]

Haha

[Shaggy]

Air shocks came in yesterday. Thu are nice. They come with 200psi nitrogen stock. I think I need about 375psi to get proper spring rate for the weight of the front of the jeep. Does anyone here have a nitrogen kit of should I just find somewhere to get it done? I don't really want to buy one if I don't have to.

[RCcola55]

i would recommend ponying up for one

[DRAGOONRANCH]

4wheel parts may have one, talk to Joel about it. I will see who else in that area may have one and get back to ya.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

PM Rastus on tx4x4, I believe he may have one.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

4wheel parts may have one, talk to Joel about it.


We can do up to 250 psi at 4wheel also $10 a shock
:(

[Shaggy]

Boo

[RCcola55]

http://compare.ebay.com/like/310025532360?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&rvr_id=202158613526&crlp=1_263602_309572&UA=WVI7&GUID=fa80eb161270a0265312b392ff8028dc&itemid=310025532360&ff4=263602_309572

[Shaggy]

Pic

[Shaggy]

I talked to Joel today and asked if I had a regulator if he could fill them to 375 and he didn't have a problem with that. So I might just get a regulator, not sure what I am gonna do yet

[stx4wheeler]

Thanks for the update, that was really bothering me!!!
:flipoff2:

[85cj7]

YO!
http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=960470

[Shaggy]

Got the Orbital mounted for the Full Hydro and the hoses run to the pump and cooler. Just waiting on the shock towers so I can mount the air shocks and see how much slack I need in the Hoses to the ram.

[redcagepatrol]

how is that suction line to the pump supposed to work when it goes higher than the reservoir? You know - you can cut those lines to fit right?:flipoff2:

[Shaggy]

i plan on shortening it and getting it lower. just not sure what space I will have until I get fenders back on and everything else in there. I didnt want to cut it and end up too short

[robertf03]

I think your motor mount is broken

[KrazyKarl02]

I think your motor mount is broken

I think your front axle is missing something also....

[Shaggy]

There are lots of front axle parts sitting on the work bench right now

[Shaggy]

I got all the brake lines run and am working on bleeding the system. I didn't bench bleed the new master. I have tried pumping the system up but can't get it primed. Is the only way to gravity bleed it and just wait?

[TdmayfieldIV]

do you have any stock drivers side 35 shafts laying around? I need one.

[Shaggy]

Funny... No

[Sharpe]

do you have any stock drivers side 35 shafts laying around? I need one.

Wtf did you do?

[Shaggy]

I'm pretty sure he was being an ass and looked at the pics earlier in this therad

[Sparling]

He bent a shaft on his dads jeep.

[Shaggy]

I don't know I'd driver and pass side are the same. I have heard they are in the tj. But if they are there is a pass side ate the scrap yard as of a few days ago

[MR.ZAP]

I don't know I'd driver and pass side are the same. I have heard they are in the tj. But if they are there is a pass side ate the scrap yard as of a few days ago

I don't think they are the same but I'm not a TJ expert

[TdmayfieldIV]

He bent a shaft on his dads jeep.

no, my dad bent an axleshaft on his jeep. It's been bent for a year.

[Shaggy]

I gravity bleed the system overnight and all day and the fluid level didn't drop one bit. I guess the next step is go pull the master and see WTF is wrong

[redcagepatrol]

I gravity bleed the system overnight and all day and the fluid level didn't drop one bit. I guess the next step is go pull the master and see WTF is wrong

you had the lines at the calipers open and left it all night and it didn't bleed?

[robertf03]

does gravity bleeding really work or is it another redneck myth like batteries on the ground draining and tail lights backfeeding the ground?

[Shaggy]

All calipers were open

[Fredo]

I'm with Flem. I don't understand why gravity bleeding would work unless you had bad piston seals in the master cylinder.

[redcagepatrol]

does gravity bleeding really work or is it another redneck myth like batteries on the ground draining and tail lights backfeeding the ground?

not if he routed the lines like his PS pump suction line. It should work (and has worked for me) to leave the res cap open, open the bleeds, and let sit. All of the fluid should drain out slowly.

He just needs to drag the wife in the garage for a few minutes

[mudtoy67]

It works on some and doesn't on others. I've found if the lines are dry all the way to the master it sometimes won't work.

[robertf03]

sounds like a good idea only if you live in the desert

[AggieTJ2007]

I didn't bench bleed the new master.

I think this is the problem

[Shaggy]

I concur. I will get to that tomorrow. I just found out today that ballistic fab is pushing my order another week. I won't have shock towers until late next week. I went ahead and pulled the 60 and loaded it in the bed of the dodge to take and have the gears set. When the towers get here I'll finally get it in full roller.

[Shaggy]

Anyone know a good place to get my gears set in San Antonio/Seguin/Austin area? I was planning on 4Wheel Parts SA because I talked to Joel a few weeks back. He quoted me $200-250 price to set up gears out of vehicle without installing shafts and such. I went to drop it off today and he said it would be about $465 and take atleast two weeks. I was like WTF. He said last month they had a half price Labor. Ass never mentioned that to me then. I would have dropped it off last week if I knew that. The worst part is that he remembered talking to me and still wouldn't work with me. Now I am on the hunt for a place that can do it in that price range and in a timely manner. I need this done with plenty of time to set up front before next month.

[85cj7]

Nope sorry. I do know that J&P standard transmission in CS will do it or $150 labor and it takes then two days. It might be worth your time and money to take the drive. Just a thought. Good luck finding a place.

[Shaggy]

I can do a better job than them. i had to deal with them when they couldnt figure out austin's rear 60. they set up my old ttb 44 but had no idea what it was when I brought it in as a 3rd member

[85cj7]

Not saying they have, but maybe, they have changed sense the last time you worked with them? I had my d-44 setup by them and colman and corey had diffs set up with no horror stories. Also JB got some trans work done there if I am not mistaken (could be) and Cook had great success with getting lots of free d-shafts and yokes from them just because we bull****ted for a while with the guy.

[Shaggy]

I pulled the master and got it bleed. The problem is it only pushes fluid when vertical. I took it apart and all gaskets seem good. I am going to go swap it for a new one. It has to be messed up

[JB]

Not saying they have, but maybe, they have changed sense the last time you worked with them? I had my d-44 setup by them and colman and corey had diffs set up with no horror stories. Also JB got some trans work done there if I am not mistaken (could be) and Cook had great success with getting lots of free d-shafts and yokes from them just because we bull****ted for a while with the guy.

no problems with J&P. Lots of offroad miles on those gears/lockers with no issues.

[Fredo]

I can do a better job than them. i had to deal with them when they couldnt figure out austin's rear 60. they set up my old ttb 44 but had no idea what it was when I brought it in as a 3rd member

You and Austin are the only two people I've ever heard say anything bad about J&P. Also, they probably didn't know what your TTB was because 99.9% of the rest of the world doesn't bother with regearing that bull****.

[Shaggy]

Got a new master and it works great now

[KrazyKarl02]

they probably didn't know what your TTB was because 99.9% of the rest of the world doesn't bother with regearing that bull****.

You dirty bastard, The Twin Traction Beam axle is God's gift to off roading. It is the equivalent of a crescent wrench in the hand tool world.

[Sharpe]

J&P put a new set of gears in my screwcab and they've held up fine

[RCcola55]

Other than the fact that the J in J&P is a pole smoker, they are the best in the area, besides Paul (which is John's brother) who opened his own place in North Zulch after the said pole smoking inncodent. Ill ask my buddy marcus what the name of the shop he used to work at in Austin is and you should be able to get it done there for a decent price.

[JB]

Other than the fact that the J in J&P is a pole smoker, they are the best in the area, besides Paul (which is John's brother) who opened his own place in North Zulch after the said pole smoking inncodent. Ill ask my buddy marcus what the name of the shop he used to work at in Austin is and you should be able to get it done there for a decent price.

I recall Cardoc guys talking about that story.

[RCcola55]

I recall Cardoc guys talking about that story.

it is a very interesting one, and it makes the whole cook getting a ton of free **** story even funnier

[85cj7]

it is a very interesting one, and it makes the whole cook getting a ton of free **** story even funnier

that was a great day. Didn't that end with dry ice bombs?:gigem:

[Shaggy]

Other than the fact that the J in J&P is a pole smoker, they are the best in the area, besides Paul (which is John's brother) who opened his own place in North Zulch after the said pole smoking inncodent. Ill ask my buddy marcus what the name of the shop he used to work at in Austin is and you should be able to get it done there for a decent price.

You get a chance to look this up. I need to get these gears set soon so I can be ready for TCC IX if I do actually get off work.

[RCcola55]

http://www.atomic4x4.com/

[Shaggy]

i ended up dropping it off at a local shop. they can get it back to me today.

[Shaggy]

Ballistic fab can suck my balls. They have told me it will be the end of next week 4 weeks in a row now. I have been calling daily this week. I am so pissed. I am almost at the point of making my own and just telling them to blow me.

[bcolman]

what arent they sending you?

[85cj7]

They are having some major problems with customer service. You should check out the thread in the ballistic zone on pirate

[Shaggy]

Shock towers

[AggieTJ2007]

I bet that they are having a hard time like most manufactures getting back up to speed after slowing down so much

[85cj7]

My brief understanding of the topic is that they got very mixed up from effectively shutting down for two weeks during KOH. Also, they have a sales rep that they recently let go who dealt with 90% of there orders who was notorious for the "two weeks" line and have given a lot of customers grief. It seems like Dave is making a real effort to turn recent events around and I hope he succeeds as they have some truly great products and production capabilities.

[stx4wheeler]

I just read the Ballstic Bash thread and that was rough. Tate I would get in contact with Dave at Ballistic for best luck.

[Shaggy]

Sucks. I was missing a couple inner seals for the dana 60. Now I am waiting for napa to send me them. Won't have the axle back until the end of the week. This is getting frustrating waiting on parts. I really need to get this thing together.

[85cj7]

Looks like it was a good thing you didn't bring it into Atomic4x4
http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=964884

[davido]

Just makes me glad that we don't deal with the general public. Pricing pressures keep you from being thorough. In this case it could have killed someone. That sucks for all involved. I guess that's why Sunray charges so much.

[85cj7]

Shock towers

Did you ever receive these?

I just saw on Ballistics pirate zone that they finished a production run of the shock towers yesterday. So if you still have the order I would expect to see them soon.

http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=961932&page=8

[Shaggy]

They are shipped but not here yet

[Shaggy]

I am going to order the rear driveshaft soon and was wondering who is best out there. High Angle and Tom Woods are two companies I called and they are in the same ball park on price but Tom Woods would have it here super fast compared to High Angle. Who else is there out there that would be worth looking into?
I am looking at 1350 flange style cv front and standard 1350 rear 26.25" long.
is thicker 120 wall worth the extra $50 from Tom Woods?

[redcagepatrol]

.
is thicker 120 wall worth the extra $50 from Tom Woods?

yes

REEL Driveline.

[Shaggy]

i figured it was worth... better chance when dropped on a rock

[bcolman]

i have a high angle driveshaft and his customer service is great, i broke the ds and it was my fault but he fixed it all i had to pay was shipping back to him

[Shaggy]

Still waiting on front axle. They finally have the seals to finish it but they are swamped with other projects. Mine keeps hitting the back burner.

Things to do

Finish crossmember
Transfercase linkage
Driveshafts
Mount and bleed ram
Put 60 back together and under jeep
Front shock towers and air shocks.
Trackbar
Exaust

That is a lot for one week with knowing I won't have time to touch it this weekend

[Shaggy]

Driveshafts are ordered. I would have to pay an extra 200 to have them here by Friday so I am out for sure this weekend. I will be ready to wheel tuesday though.

[AggieTJ2007]

that sucks only 2 days to late, couldn't find anyone local to make them for you

[bcolman]

Driveshafts are ordered. I would have to pay an extra 200 to have them here by Friday so I am out for sure this weekend. I will be ready to wheel tuesday though.

who did you end up going with?

[Shaggy]

Tom Woods

[Shaggy]

I would have paid the extra money if there wasn't still a laundry list if thinks to do on it. I did however get the front done today and now have it in full roller. I can't upload a pic from my phon but have it on facebook if anyone is curious. It came out at the exact ride height I was shooting for too.

Makes me wanna wheel so bad

[FJAggie07]

I would have paid the extra money if there wasn't still a laundry list if thinks to do on it. I did however get the front done today and now have it in full roller. I can't upload a pic from my phon but have it on facebook if anyone is curious. It came out at the exact ride height I was shooting for too.

Makes me wanna wheel so bad

That's awesome Tate! Can't wait to see it on the trail.

[Shaggy]

pic

[AggieTJ2007]

looks great, need to get mine back together too bad it won't look as nice

[sam_hodnett]

Thats pretty damn slick man. What is the final wheelbase?

[Shaggy]

After I adjust the links it will be somewhere between 112"-114"

[mudtoy67]

Looks great!

[cj nut]

looks awesome!!

[Shaggy]

The driveshafts came in on tuesday. I installed the rear one the other day. Bad dood. Tonight I built the mount for the ram but ran out of fuel for the welder and didn't get to finish final welding it up. So I decided to run the ram hoses. I tried cutting the high pressure lines with a hack saw because I was out of cutoff wheels. No dice. Called it a day. Hopefully I will get around to messing with it later this week and take it for it's first spin around the block.

[Shaggy]

I finally got around to working on this thing again. I started out by running the last few lines for the ram. I also ziptied all the loos hoses and wires that were haning around without fenders on.

I tried to start it to bleed the ram and no luck. My battery was dead. threw it on the charger and worked on a couple other loose ends.

I picked a cone style airfilter to get rid of the airbox that nolonger fit under there. I also ajusted the track bar because the axle was too far to the passanger side.

After the battery sat on the charger for half a day I started it up and bleed the system.

I went to take it for a spin and learned that the transfercase was in N. I crawled under the jeep and got it in 2H and went on my way.

It drove fine around the block. I came back home to bleed the ram some more. after adding fluid the top hose on the pump blew off. I slipped it back on and added a hose clamp which was not on there. Then the hose bursted. I guess I need to swap this hose out with the high pressure hose I have left over. my garage has about half a gallon of power steering fluid spread everywhere (walls and all)

I decided to call it lunch time. I will take some pics after I eat lunch and replace that line.

[KrazyKarl02]

after adding fluid the top hose on the pump blew off. I slipped it back on and added a hose clamp which was not on there. Then the hose bursted. I guess I need to swap this hose out with the high pressure hose I have left over. my garage has about half a gallon of power steering fluid spread everywhere (walls and all)

I would take it back to the shop that installed it, :flipoff2: sounds like a warranty issue from improper install...

[AggieTJ2007]

top hose as in the -10 hose or -6 high pressure hose that goes to the orbital

[Shaggy]

orbital

[Shaggy]

Couple poser shots

1855518556

[mudtoy67]

Looks good Tate. You're going to have to upgrade tires already! :D

[bcolman]

looks good, when is the maiden voyage?

[sam_hodnett]

Freakin awesome

Is it just me or is the slider on the drivers side to far forward. And what are you going to do about front fenders?

[stx4wheeler]

Looks good Tate!

[TexTJ209]

Looks awesome Tate!


Freakin awesome

Is it just me or is the slider on the drivers side to far forward. And what are you going to do about front fenders?


It's where it's supposed to be on a TJ with flares and a front fender. When you remove that stuff it looks as it does above.

[sam_hodnett]

Ahh i see

[Shaggy]

it sticks out that way because that is where the fender was. I plan on building some tube ones eventually and that space will be covered again

[Shaggy]

Looks good Tate. You're going to have to upgrade tires already! :D

I built it to clear 42"s and still fit in the garage

[Shaggy]

Jeep is Exhausted

[Shaggy]

last one

[Shaggy]

the guy didn't like how I made him make so many bends to keep it up and out of the way of everything

[TexTJ209]

He was probably just jealous of your welds.

[Shaggy]

He was probably just jealous of your welds.

welding on your back with a stick welder isnt exactly the easiest way to weld. the Welds are good even if they are ugly

[TexTJ209]

welding on your back with a stick welder isnt exactly the easiest way to weld. the Welds are good even if they are ugly

I know, welding upside down sucks ass. Just givin ya ****. :flipoff2:

[Shaggy]

the rear axle had a wine so I added 3 quarts of gear oil in it and it is quite now. Guess I forgot to add fluid years ago when we set up the gears.

I got insurance on it Friday and plan on going and registering it today sometime

[colman]

isnt it time for a RIP next to tonka in your sig....

[Shaggy]

Ya I guess I need to do that

[Shaggy]

So it turns out that I some how ended up with the wrong detroit for the gears or vice versa. I ordered this stuff like 7 years ago so I can't do much but trade them now. I got a Detroit designed for the 5.13 gearset. I somehow ordered the 5.13 "thick" gears that are designed for the 4.10 carrier. So I need to find someone with a detroit that is about to go to lower gears and wants to trade.

[FJAggie07]

That does suck, sorry to hear that Tate.

[Shaggy]

I got the correct gears ordered now. I got the g2 heat treated gears. They will be in tomorrow. Hopefully I will have time to take the jeep out to my gear guy soon.

[Shaggy]

Gears are set and jeep is mostly put back together. I can't find my full cicle axle shaft clips so I need to order some. Also I put the wrong yoke on it. I put the 1310 one on. I can't find my 1350 one so I need to order one. So other than those two small things the jeep is ready.

[Shaggy]

I played around with the jeep today. Almost wrecked it doing a 5000 redline shift into 3rd gear burnout turn. When finishing up I blew the same Hydrolic hose again. I quickly repaired it and spun it around to pull into the garage. FAIL. I ran out of fuel in the middle of the road sideways. I only had a half gallon and that wouldn't start it. I had to put the dodge in the yard to anchor the winch and then directly next to the neighbors suburban to anchor the winch again. I also had to keep turning the engine over to get it steering in the correct direction. Now it sits in the street until I go and get fuel for it sometime next week when I am back in town.

Cool story I know. Just venting.

[TdmayfieldIV]

I played around with the jeep today. Almost wrecked it doing a 5000 redline shift into 3rd gear burnout turn. When finishing up I blew the same Hydrolic hose again. I quickly repaired it and spun it around to pull into the garage. FAIL. I ran out of fuel in the middle of the road sideways. I only had a half gallon and that wouldn't start it. I had to put the dodge in the yard to anchor the winch and then directly next to the neighbors suburban to anchor the winch again. I also had to keep turning the engine over to get it steering in the correct direction. Now it sits in the street until I go and get fuel for it sometime next week when I am back in town.

Cool story I know. Just venting.

This= win

[Shaggy]

Atleast I was willing to post on the board and be one of the 5 posts for the day

[Fredo]

Have you ever seen Idiocracy?

[RCcola55]

Go way Baitin

[Shaggy]

No

[NealtheDestroyr]

Welcome to Costco, I love you.

[Shaggy]

Turns out I wasn't out of gas. Whenever I busted the hydro hose it must have sprayed something it shouldn't have. I put 5 gallons of fuel in and nothing. I shook all the wires that got wet and now the fuel gauge kicked back on I'm still not getting spark though. As soon as I get a chance I am going to try and start it with starter fluid to see if it is just not getting fuel.

On a side note I ordered a 1350 yoke for the 60 so that will be ready to go Tuesday when it gets here.

[Shaggy]

No fuses out. Check engine light is on but it isn't throwing any codes. Battery keeps dying. I am thinking it needs to charge longer before it reads anything.

[Shaggy]

It gets no fire on it's own. Fires first turn with starter fluid. Runs like a champ after started. What could it be?

[Sharpe]

Did you let Brian Colman drive it? He's good at ****ing up jeep engines.

[KrazyKarl02]

On a ferd there is a wire that goes from the "starter" wire to the computer that retards timing during startup. How does this work on a new heep?

[robertf03]

still under warranty?

[Shaggy]

I finally got my 1350 yoke in. Now the jeep is finally 4wd again. I still have to use starter fluid to fire it up but I am ready to go wheeling.

[Shaggy]

I plan on going up to Waco to test it out at my ranch 8/7-8/9. It is durring the week but if anyone wants to come out there are a few mild trails out there. My stepdad just bought a 99 tj a few days ago. All I know about it is that it is lifted and has a winch. 4 cylinder also.

[Shaggy]

Headed to Waco after work today. Testing out the jeep tomorrow. I'll be sure to post some poser shots when I get home.

[Shaggy]

Got to play with the jeep a little. First night we hit up some of the 4wheeler and ranger trails around the house in china springs. Had about 45 min of fun before my front brakes started to lock up. I pulled the jeep proportioning valve off in the morning and just ran the lines directly into the dodge master. I figured it was doubling the pressure to the lines.

I then went out the the ranch and got another 45 min of wheeling in before it started locking up again. I hit up all the lines I was too scared to take the bronco up back in the day and it just walked up everything. So I then just blead the pressure off the calipers and went out for another run. This time I only got about 30 min in before I lost all gauges and the timing jumped. backfired it back to camp where it died. Battery was dead so I had my brother pull it on with his new TJ.

This whole time I have been using starter fluid to get it going. I guess when that last hydrolic hose blew and soaked everything it must have taken out the computer.

I put it on the charger when I got home and it starts and runs fine (with starter fluid).

I am going to pull the computer and also clean all the wiring that got soaked and see if that fixes the eelectrical problems.

I am at a loss for why the front brakes are locking up.

[Shaggy]

I didnt get any pics of the better obsticles. just some cell phone shots whenever the jeep was stable enough for me to get out without rolling

[KrazyKarl02]

Could you have got water in the brake lines? Once they heat up it will turn to steam and cause lock up issues.

[Shaggy]

I don't see how I would have. It has hardly been rained on since I did the brakes. And I haven't driven it through water.

[robertf03]

Does it have the factory wrangler booster and master cylinder, or did you kluge something else on it?

If its kludged, you probably have the wrong pushrod length or pedal geometry and the air valve in the booster isn't closing.

[Shaggy]

It is a dodge 2500 master. I can pull it off and adjust the rod length then

[Shaggy]

I bet that is it. Thanks

[Shaggy]

i retract my statement, two dents in the thing with paper plates still on it?!? this thing will be in the scrap yard in under 3 yrs.

I was looking back and just wanted to point it that I have had it for more than 3 years and it isn't in the scrap yard. It has had less than 300 miles put on it in the last 2 years but it is drivable.

[Shaggy]

please, that sh!t is off the burner, in some tupperware, and at the bottom of the freezer under some old meatloaf, a free turkey, and a dead hooker's liver. In 2 years you'll dig it up while trying to find the last blue otter pop, and will throw it away as it is unidentifiable due to freezer burn.

This however ended up being true

[Shaggy]

I finally finished the rear body Mounts I started 10 months ago. Doesn't flap around when I hit bumps. Not using the battery tender for the last 6 months hasn't been good on my old red top. Guess I need to get a new one Monday. I still need to rebuild the hydro ram mount. I think I am going to just scab a brace on it because I don't have the time to build it the right way now. Jeep still requires a small squirt of starter fluid to start. That is going to be crappy if I stall. Trip isn't going to be pretty but she should make it.

[sam_hodnett]

she should make it.

:gigem:

[Shaggy]

Well the jeep battery keeps draining so I decided to get the battery tested. I left it on the battery tender for a few days and it tested fine. I took my spare red top that is dead and it was not. It was old as balls so I just bought a new one. I ran the jeep for a few hours and checked the new one. Although it still has plenty of juice it is lower. Guess it is time to pull the alternator.

[Shaggy]

Alternator is fine. However how I thought before the computer is shot. It isn't telling the alternator to charge the battery or also explains why the cold start doesn't work. Dodge has a back order on it so I guess I have to find one aftermarket or junk yard. I have three part numbers what will work in my truck for it. Anyone know of a good place to order one of these on the fast?

[Sparling]

parts stores. We can order tons of computers at advance.

[AggieTJ2007]

Alternator is fine. However how I thought before the computer is shot. It isn't telling the alternator to charge the battery or also explains why the cold start doesn't work. Dodge has a back order on it so I guess I have to find one aftermarket or junk yard. I have three part numbers what will work in my truck for it. Anyone know of a good place to order one of these on the fast?

I would call Brett or Barrett at Collins Bros Jeep

[bburris]

I would call Brett or Barrett at Collins Bros Jeep

Nada here. Parts store is a good bet.

[Sparling]

Advance has 2 different computers listed so you'll have to get the OEM part number off the one you have in the jeep. Either one is 279.99 plus tax. Cardone part numbers 79-4433V and 79-4477V.

[Shaggy]

I ordered one. Hopefully it will be in soon. They couldn't tell me a date because they have to call and are not open today.

[Shaggy]

Computer came in today. It took all of 5 min to install. Jeep runs fantastic now. When I pulled the old one off I could see exactly where the problem was. One of the posts was fried and stuck in the plug side. Only odd thing about this computer is that it is painted gold. Weird but it works

[KrazyKarl02]

That's a reman thing, the gold paint, I had one like that too on a Ferd.

[TdmayfieldIV]

They don't do that on tbi computers...which makes factory ones really easy to warranty:D

[eight]

So, did you do the thing where you unhook the battery before welding every time? I still maintain that it makes no difference and that you should really unplug the computer if you're concerned about it.

[Shaggy]

It happened when a hydroloc hose blew up and sprayed the whole engine about a year ago

[Shaggy]

Tonight I cut off the under built hydroloc ram mount and started to build a beefed up version like I should have in the first place. I also dropped it lower and eliminated the ghetto stacked washers I had in there. I stopped at 11pm because the welder and chop saw are too loud. All I really have left is to make some mounting tabs and weld them to the new mount and bolt it back together. Starting to get motivated with the trip less than a week away now.

[sam_hodnett]

Good deal, Im excited to see the jeep

[Shaggy]

Jeep is all done and back together. Mount is much better. Geometry even ended up nice on the ram. All I really need to do now is install the car seat. And load up. I am bringing lots of spare parts for my brother's jeep. I don't really have any spares for mine anymore.

[Shaggy]

I ordered some FOX 2.5 14" travel shocks, brackets and links to convert 3-link front to 4-link. Hopefully they will be here early in the week. The new shocks will make the jeep a little taller than before to help from bottoming the frame out on the steering. New rims and tires have been ordered also. They are several weeks out though. I still need to order some small things but looking forward to the changes.

[AggieTJ2007]

How much do you want for the wrecked air shocks?

[Shaggy]

I was thinking about rebuilding them and putting them in the back. They shouldn't be too pricy to fix

[AggieTJ2007]

no they shouldn't

[Shaggy]

I fixed the hydro hoses that got cut and filled it back up. I still have to strong arm it as if it isn't even power steering. You think it is the pump? It started acting up on that early obsticle where I debeaded several tires long before I killed the hoses. Thoughts?

[AggieTJ2007]

yep sounds like your pump is toast not surprising if it got run for a long time without any fluid. also make sure you get all of the air out of the system, pick the front end off of the ground and turn make and forth with the motor off

[Shaggy]

It started acting up before I blew the hoses. But I did romp on it a lot after to get it back on the trailer.

[Shaggy]

I just picked up my packages that got sent to my rent house in San Antonio instead of my Victoria house. Damn the Fox 2.5 are beaf compared to my old 2.0. All the brackets and Johnny joints were in there but the damn tubing didn't show up. Guess I have to call Monday and see why it wasn't shipped. My tires are on back order also so no Clayton trip I guess.

[Shaggy]

The new air shocks and link material have all showed up. My tires will be here today and wheels next Monday. I guess it is time to finally pull it off the trailer from the last trip and get to work.

[Shaggy]

Tires finally made it today. Wow way badass. I have never seen a set in person so I was nervous. Happy with my purchase. Facebook friends link a pic for a non computer having fool.