The Great West Texas Barn Rasing

[Reckless]

The step-dad decided it was time to build a shop here at the house. We are adding on to the existing garage by about 20ft. The final dementions are around 48'x40' with the open area with 15' celings. It will have 2 14'x'12 rolling doors and 2 regular steel doors. We just put down the sand yesterday. We are pouring a 4in slab.

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The mexican that didnt get away
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[DRAGOONRANCH]

The mexican that didnt get away
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atleast you left him a breathin tube. ;) What are yall usin for compaction on the sand?

[Reckless]

Skid steer bucket and a little bit of water

[DRAGOONRANCH]

If your skinny ass leaves more than a small imprint in the sand when walkin on it, get a good load of dirt in the bucket and just use the skidsteer wheels to 'wheel roll' it. Looks like yall are doing a good job, what is the pipes for? Sink or crapper? :gigem:

[Reckless]

both. the poles are 2 7/8 oilfield pipe

[Sharpe]

Me crackum 4" slab in my shop.

[Seth]

did you or did the subgrade cause it?

[Sharpe]

Dunno, building is old as fawk.

[sasquatch]

4" is too thin if you are going to park/put anything heavy on it

[Reckless]

4" is too thin if you are going to park/put anything heavy on it

Thats what i told the step parental but hes a joo. I said 6in.

[agjohn02]

did you or did the subgrade cause it?

he dropped a 6.2l

[Graystroke]

are you not putting any beams in there? it would be a good idea on where you plan to park things at the very least along w/ a perimeter beam. it would make the slab act more monolithic...generally you do it every 8' both directions. I would do at least 1' X1' beams and put heavier bar in these beams. if you are really ambitous you can line the bottom w/ plastic. I think it acts as a vapor barrier and allows the concrete to cure a little slower and make it stronger.
Jerry? I'm surprised you haven't chimed in. Aren't you mister cement in stinky town?

[DRAGOONRANCH]

4" can be done if the correct rebar and cement mix is used. If you plan on pulling anything heavier than a pick up in there, then make sure the rebar is on 8" centers and you get at high psi mix.

[JeepPhisherman]

Concrete's espensive. As long as their soil is decent, a little crack isn't going to harm anyone.

Then again, I've never seen a 4" slab and would second the grade beam idea, but since you've already laid down the sub-grade, that probably ain't going to happen.

[eight]

I've seen plenty of buildings with 4" thick flatwork as slabs. Yea it'll probably crack, but its just a crack. Costs a whole lot less than a regular slab. A normal concrete foundation would cost twice what they're gonna spend on the building.

[jerryg79]

abilene has quite different soil then we do in houston. So to quote Flem "that's not how i would do it" but I don't live in abilene. 4" is what a house/garage are, but places like firelanes at apartments are 6 or 7" since they are made to park firetrucks on.

[Sharpe]

Cracks get annoying when trying to role heavy **** on small castors around such as engine stands, hoists, creapers, etc. Its your party I'm just relaying my experiences from my shop.

[CheapJeep]

Cracks especially suck once weeds and other foliage try to grow through. I think alot of it has to do with what type of soil base/foundation you pour on like Jerry said. At my parents place we have cracks in sections of the driveway slab because the soil base eroded underneath.

[Seth]

you know, they were selling a 5' x 10" x 4" slap at surplus the other day. !!!

[Seth]

and by slap, i mean slab.

and now that i think about it, if i could have moved it, i could have used it, i think it went for 10 or 20 bucks.

[Reckless]

Yea, soil is a clay mix. We are running 8in centers. They quoted us 6k for the steel and concrete work since we did the subgrade.

[agjohn02]

theres a little button... says edit... learn it, love it, live it

[DRAGOONRANCH]

theres a little button... says edit... learn it, love it, live it

There is also one near the bottom of the edit screen that says delete. You should try it sometime... :flipoff2:

[Seth]

editing takes longer, and i have to somehow pad my post count for my two extended leaves-of-absence on the board.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Yea, soil is a clay mix. We are running 8in centers. They quoted us 6k for the steel and concrete work since we did the subgrade.

Do you know what size rebar is planned. My grandads driveway is only a 4" slab w/ a wire mat in it and it has done pretty well considering it has had every piece of equipment we ever owned parked on it with only a few cracks in it. It should do fine.

[BMFScout]

learn it, love it, live it


This douchebag in a class I am taking said this last night. I thought of you John! :gigem:

[Reckless]

finally getting it finished and outfitted. The hoist is 6in I-beam 11'hx15'l. The wood burning stove looks like a nuclear reactor.

[Reckless]

.....

[Reckless]

And every shop must have an office to design and research

[DRAGOONRANCH]

finally getting it finished and outfitted. The hoist is 6in I-beam 11'hx15'l. The wood burning stove looks like a nuclear reactor.

and if by nuclear reactor, you mean the one at chernobyl, then yes, yes it does. :gigem: