Random Tech Questions

[rockfrawg]

Per Eric's Request....

The title says it all, post 'em up here

[rockfrawg]

Just made it through my 5th HF pitman arm puller tonight and I've pulled 1 arm. I started with a broken one I've had for a while and a new one and have exchanged and broke both of those again, then one more tonight. Has anyone ever had any success with these pieces of ****?

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/photos/01700-01799/01752.gif

What works better? Does a seperator work better, or should I just invest in a better, non-cast version from a real store?

i just happened to be looking at this when I saw this post...also just so happens i picked up a Toyota IFS box myself from the yards today

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=511091

[colman]

ive removed dosens of pitman arms and other things with my hf one and haven't broken it yet. i like to hit the arm as i tighten it to loosen it up if it is being stubborn. i hvae broken one but i just warrantied it out at work

[uglyota]

Noice!

[AggieTJ2007]

I used a pitman arm puller from orielys or autozone with no problem

[rockfrawg]

like this newbie...

http://69.154.65.6/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1016&g2_serialNumber=1

required tools:
torch
lighter
pitman arm puller
punch
1/2" rachet
19mm socket
breaker bar
BFH
pipe wrench

took me about 20 mins

what else can i skool you on?

:flipoff2:

[JeepPhisherman]

No torch. No unbroken puller until tomorrow. And this one is an 18 mm.

I moved on to wiring until I feel like attacking it again.

[rockfrawg]

found this in some of my research...bookmark it so when someone calls you from the junkyard to know what an axle is, you'll have it handy.

BOM# / Axle Identification:
http://www2.dana.com/expertforms/demenu.aspx

[Reckless]

They also have blown up schematics on all the axles, including part numbers

[Fredo]

They also have blown up schematics on all the axles, including part numbers

I find it funny that my mind automatically substituted "blow'd up" into that for Rowdy the first time I read it. :flipoff2:

[Reckless]

Hell, cant hide the truth hahah

[Sharpe]

It is funnier to add an accent when reading his posts:flipoff2:

[BMFScout]

I like to picture him saying them with that crazy wide eyed look he gets going. :gigem:

[jerryg79]

i picture him saying it to a chick twice his size and half his age:gigem:

[Reckless]

Here is a book of advice for you Jerry:gigem:

[FJAggie07]

i picture him saying it to a chick twice his size and half his age:gigem:

I've seen him do it! :flipoff2:

[uglyota]

I thought Doug or someone had a thread here about building a cantenna...can't find it?

[Doug Krebs]

I thought Doug or someone had a thread here about building a cantenna...can't find it?

This? (http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/cantennahowto.html)

[uglyota]

yep, bought the parts last night, might have internet at the house tonight!

[AggieTJ2007]

sweet, let me know how it works I need to make one so that the Wifi will reach all of the way into the living room

[F1504x4]

i wanna convert ifs on my f150 to a solid axle. i found the conversion kit online, and can see money wise that itll be a while before i do this but it gives me time to search for axles and read up on front end conversions and whatnot. what kind of axels should i be looking for? older f150's or broncos? and btw its a 4wd truck so i need a front diff too

[Sharpe]

You should probably start a new thread for a project that large. Post up exactly what you are planning on going with so we can help you avoid wasting money on **** you can either easily make yourself or dont need. Regardless, I will assume later IFS Fords are driver's side drop in which case you will need a D-side high pinion Ford dana 44. Not hard to find.

[Seth]

What kit did you find?

[breckboarder55]

If I run an aussie up front, I know I am going to loose some turning radius... How bad is it really going to be?

[85cj7]

If I run an aussie up front, I know I am going to loose some turning radius... How bad is it really going to be?

pretty bad, you don't want to run a fulltime locker in a dd, its going to chirp like crazy when turning corners and could be dangerous at high speeds. arb or e-locker in the front, selectable only.

[AggieTJ2007]

an auzie locker is an auto locker. You will not notice it in 2wd in the front. it automatically unlocks. I ran one in the jeep and never noticed it. An not the jeep does not have hubs so the front axle always spins

[breckboarder55]

an auzie locker is an auto locker. You will not notice it in 2wd in the front. it automatically unlocks. I ran one in the jeep and never noticed it. An not the jeep does not have hubs so the front axle always spins

thats what I heard... Pretty unnoticeable in 2wd...

So is it worth the crappy turning radius? I imagine most situations with really tight turns I could put it in 2wd?

I'm pretty set on it, I just want to make sure its not horrible turning (offroad).

[agjohn02]

when its locked off-road you will not be able to turn. a limited slip will be best up front.

[JB]

? what is so different with an Aussie locker? My full Detroit lets me turn offroad just fine even without h-assist.

[agjohn02]

werent you just telling me this afternoon that you wanted hydro assist? when you are rolling its not hard to turn, but if you are in a situation where you need to turn but cant move, it sucks. all it takes is a little movement to get it to turn but a lot of times that little movement screws up your line. plus, do you really want to lock up an ifs front end?

[breckboarder55]

hmmm I was told I would only have a restricted turning radius, not no turning radius.

I don't want to lock the 35, so I was really hoping an aussie would work out in the front.

Does anyone actually run a lunch box in the front here, on the club?

[JB]

There are times that the Detroit hinders progress due to inability to steer, but overall, I can wheel without hydro. Doesn't an Aussie locker still partially disengage when turning? You are making it sound like an Aussie locker is like a welded front. I have had a welded front and I have had a Detroit, and they are nothing alike.

[Shaggy]

I did once upon a time in the bronco... never noticed a bad turning radius because it broke shafts too fast in the ttb. But I wouldn't worry about loosing some radius on jeep... you shouldn't have any issues in 2wd anyways. i am going full detroit in mine but would do lunch box if i was worried about $

[Reckless]

creighton did in his tj, and it had good street manners IIRC

[breckboarder55]

I know they disengage, so I don't think it kills my radius... but I do think it will hurt.

I guess its livable...

It is number two to do on the list I guess. At only 260, I can't complain.

Anybody ever install one before?

[agjohn02]

ive installed four or five of them. i speak from experience. i have one in an solid axle rig. do what you want.

[uglyota]

it won't hurt anything in 2wd. You will learn how to make it work for you in 4wd. It's a locker. It locks under power and unlocks when not under power (more or less). It will improve your jeep's capability more than anything else. Do it!

[agjohn02]

ah, its in a jeep. i thought we were talking about an f150. do it.

[breckboarder55]

ah, its in a jeep. i thought we were talking about an f150. do it.

So its not as bad since I'm in a Jeep?

[agjohn02]

nah. lots of people do it. you're more likely to break a shaft but that's wheeling. you will have a hard time turning sometimes but you'll deal with it. does yours have a two piece shaft up front?... i dont know, one of the former collins boys came chime in and tell you about that.

[robertf03]

2 piece up front is a yj thing

[breckboarder55]

I take it pretty easy with my 4 banger... I have only broken one shaft so far.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

I am assuming you haven't wheeled with the lot of us, and you haven't wheeled clayton. I would make sure you have spares.


I am sure Creighton would be more than happy to school you on the finer points of 'finessing' obstacles. ;)

[Eckert]

dove nose/tail a blazer. yes or no?

[BroncoJo]

dove nose/tail a blazer. yes or no?

waste of time

[Eckert]

waste of time

the whole thing is a waste of time. we can just work your welder into the debt :flipoff2:

[BroncoJo]

the whole thing is a waste of time. we can just work your welder into the debt :flipoff2:

Fawk ya best idea you ever had

[Sharpe]

dove nose/tail a blazer. yes or no?

Yes.

[BMFScout]

hmmm I was told I would only have a restricted turning radius, not no turning radius.

I don't want to lock the 35, so I was really hoping an aussie would work out in the front.

Does anyone actually run a lunch box in the front here, on the club?

I have a lunchbox locker in the front of mine, wouldn't do it on a TJ. An auto locker like an aussie or full detroit is the way to go. You won't even know it's there until you put it in 4wd. It will make a huge difference off-roading and you will probably break a rear 35 shaft before you break a front shaft anyway.

[breckboarder55]

I have a lunchbox locker in the front of mine, wouldn't do it on a TJ. An auto locker like an aussie or full detroit is the way to go. You won't even know it's there until you put it in 4wd. It will make a huge difference off-roading and you will probably break a rear 35 shaft before you break a front shaft anyway.

Thats what the Jeepforum guys were saying about the aussie.

And the shaft I did break... Was in the front...

[CheapJeep]

An aussie locker is a lunchbox locker.

C.J. has an aussie in the front on his cj5, I don't think he's had any trouble with it. I had a powertrax in the rear of my 8.8 which worked well until I got 38's.

Everyone will tell you to go with different setups but you're the one dropping the cash so you have to make the final decision. Full detroits are nice but expensive, if you have the money and don't plan on swapping axles then go for it. An aussie, ez locker, powertrax, or other lunchbox would work great with your setup and not break the bank but that's just my opinion.

[BMFScout]

I didn't think you wanted a lunchbox locker in the front of a TJ because it locks regardless if power is applied or not and since you don't have lockouts it will lock the front two wheels together making steering chitty around town. I wheel a drop in in the front, but I have lockouts. I thought an aussie was like a full case detroit, I guess I don't know what an aussie locker is.

OK, I went and looked. I wouldn't run an aussie locker = ez locker/powertrax/drop in locker. I wouldn't run this in the front of a TJ, but that is just me. I don't think it locks/unlocks smooth enough to run it on the street, but Creighton says he ran one. Lissa had a full case detroit in the front of her TJ, and I say that is the way to go. It was completely undetectable since you have to apply power to it it make it lock up, so 2WD was fine.

If you broke a front shaft with 33" tires unlocked you were doing something really dumb. You've found the right place!! :gigem:

[85cj7]

this is what i said two pages ago, its not a slip/clutch locker so its going to suck

[Eckert]

unit bearing bring the suck. just leave it open.



why do thirnbirds bring the suck?

[BroncoJo]

why do thirnbirds bring the suck?

They are basically a kickass all terrain that completly sucks on the road.

[Eckert]

They are basically a kickass all terrain that completly sucks on the road.

got three at the house. debating on selling them or throwing them on the back of the ford.

[Seth]

I will never forget thaxton running on thornbirds, couldnt get over 55 or something ridiculous like that. He was holding up a convoy of guys pullin trailers out to alto.

[AggieTJ2007]

Ryan, you are wrong

Jimmy, I think you are misunderstanding. The aussie locker is a lunchbox locker. It works just like a full case detroit except it is alot cheaper/ easier to install. You will not notice it in 2wd. I drove mine on the highway and around town for almost 30,000 miles with the aussie locker and it never gave me any problems.

I would recommend the Aussie locker for the front. The difference it makes is incredible. I have only broken the pins in the locker once and that was after this last trip to clayton and I think I snapped 2 or 3 shafts.

PM if you have any questions about your Jeep I will tell you what I have done to mine and how it affected the road handling.

My Jeep actually drove down the highway very well up until it decided to **** the transfer case.

[8Runner]

Just curious, why wouldn't you get a cheap locker and some lockout Warn hubs? That's what I did on 8runner & it worked great - allowed me to 3 wheel when I broke something too.

[Eckert]

becuase a TJ has a unit bearing dana 30. much like the dana 44/60 in dodges. lockout=$$$. but while polish a turd?

with a locker. the front driveshaft will always spin. might cause vibrations.

[Reckless]

but the unit bearings make things nice when changing shafts

[BMFScout]

I would just listen to whatever Creighton says, he knows TJ's better than anyone in the club since Conlee isn't on the board anymore.

[Reckless]

Creighton has broken more shafts than a female body builder

[breckboarder55]

Ryan, you are wrong

Jimmy, I think you are misunderstanding. The aussie locker is a lunchbox locker. It works just like a full case detroit except it is alot cheaper/ easier to install. You will not notice it in 2wd. I drove mine on the highway and around town for almost 30,000 miles with the aussie locker and it never gave me any problems.

I would recommend the Aussie locker for the front. The difference it makes is incredible. I have only broken the pins in the locker once and that was after this last trip to clayton and I think I snapped 2 or 3 shafts.

PM if you have any questions about your Jeep I will tell you what I have done to mine and how it affected the road handling.

My Jeep actually drove down the highway very well up until it decided to **** the transfer case.

where is the best place to pick up shafts?

[bburris]

Ebay or Craigslist - look for someone parting a Cherokee out that doesn't have a vacuum disconnect front axle. That'll be easier than finding actual TJ axles that someone is selling off. I had a lunchbox locker in my Jeep for a long while as well and it didn't really hurt anything on the road. It didn't see much highway driving, but the D30 held up ok for all-around crap with 36" SXs and the locker.

The rear axle, however...

[AggieTJ2007]

I go to the junkyard and get them out of cherokees. Actually TJ shafts are hard to come buy and the usually want almost $150 for the set. However if you go to the junkyard and get them out of an XJ they are only around $30 each.

However with cherokees you have to watch out, the older non-disconnect axles used a smaller u-joint. They work fine, they just aren't as strong.

If you are only running 33's you can make the shafts live for a long time, just be smart about things, such and don't get on it with the wheels turned hard, or really get on it in a bind.

I only broke 2 shafts with 33's. One of them was with the rear bumper pinned full lock, lots of throttle in reverse. the other one was in Katemcy in Low-Low with the wheels turned.

when you break shafts the ball-joints sometimes bust. I would recomend getting a set of balljoints and keeping them with you. I never had to use mine but I did have to lend them to Scott once.

I have a few extra shafts but I think that they are all small ujoint style shafts. I will sell them to you for $30 each

[AggieTJ2007]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DANA-30-DRIVERS-SIDE-AXLE-SHAFT-97-06-JEEP-WRANGLER-TJ_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c39Q3a1Q 7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec 0Q2em14QQhashZitem270280695939QQitemZ270280695939
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DANA-30-PASSENGER-AXLE-SHAFT-97-06-JEEP-WRANGLER-TJ_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c39Q3a1Q 7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec 0Q2em14QQhashZitem270280694963QQitemZ270280694963

Oh passenger side shafts always go for cheaper on Ebay than driver side. I am not sure why but they do

[breckboarder55]

Err I need to pick up a junk yard 44... 8.8 seems just as expensive with all the fab work needed...

[BMFScout]

It's not too late to find a different jeep with a 4.0L, and a 44 already in the rear. It sounds drastic, but so is $1200 for a rear 44 with junk factory brackets. (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JEEP-WRANGLER-DANA-44-REAR-AXLE-3-73-ONLY-24K-MILES_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1234Q7c39Q3 a1Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q 2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem230294783330QQitemZ2302947833 30) I just think you're going to build up this jeep then not have enough motor to turn the tires. An 8.8 isn't that hard to do, $300 in really nice brackets and if you work the junkyards in Dallas or Houston right, Awesome Auto has 8.8's for $30 if you pull it yourself. (Hard to believe, but it's true)

[bburris]

Or you could buy Creighton's D44...

[73bronco]

The bronco's got an aussie up front, no complaints, but I've got lockouts so can't say how it'll be on the road in yours

[breckboarder55]

Anybody have a spring compressor? Or should I rent one?

[85cj7]

rent one, vato-zone and napa have them.

[Eckert]

whats the point in grinding the shift rail when twin sticking a 205?

[Doug Krebs]

whats the point in grinding the shift rail when twin sticking a 205?

It allows the detent ball to hold the rail in a position that it wasn't designed stock to do.

[breckboarder55]

Any one know why Jeep decided to use Torx bits on the TJ? is there any benefit?

[BMFScout]

so it would discourage you from working on your own vehicle and bring it into the stealership.

[85cj7]

at least your torx bolts have only been in there for 8 years, try 23.

[robertf03]

I read somewhere the reason companies use torx is that it reduces the time it takes for union assholes to apply the tooling to the fastener and increases production rates.

[TexTJ209]

at least your torx bolts have only been in there for 8 years, try 23.

'70s Jeeps ftw. I took off my entire front clip using only 1/2 and 9/16s sockets.

[Reckless]

Nut extractors remove stripped torx bolts like a champ

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00952061000P?vName=Tools&cName=Hand+Tools%2C+General+Purpose&sName=Bolt-Out%2C+Taps+%26+Dies

[robertf03]

I did the same on a 90 YJ, thats not where they hide them

fuse panel, seat belts, roll bar, dash, and fuel filler trim is where it seems to have started.

[Reckless]

windshield brackets

[Reckless]

Can you weld mild steel to a D60 housing with regular 6011 or do ya have to use nickel rods?

[TexTJ209]

I did the same on a 90 YJ, thats not where they hide them

fuse panel, seat belts, roll bar, dash, and fuel filler trim is where it seems to have started.



Yeah, fairly sure I can strip mine to the frame without seeing anything other than a hex head now that I've looked at it. So very awesome.


As a side note, the people who decided to bolt TJ roll bars in using torx bits deserve a special place in hell.

[CheapJeep]

'70s Jeeps ftw. I took off my entire front clip using only 1/2 and 9/16s sockets.

Ditto... 74 CJ-5 stock windshield frame, seat mounts, and etc blow ass with torx bolts. **** was rusted so bad I snapped a torx head off on the seat mount and ended up torching the ***** out.

[uglyota]

Can you weld mild steel to a D60 housing with regular 6011 or do ya have to use nickel rods?
Link bracket? Shock mount? Probably depends how important it is but the cool kids on pirate will all tell you nickel and preheat.

[KrazyKarl02]

Can you weld mild steel to a D60 housing with regular 6011 or do ya have to use nickel rods?

I'm no weldologist, but what Hippie said is pretty accurate. Obviously the tubes you can weld whatever the hell you want as they are just mild steel.

You can physically weld just about any type of steel to the housing, weather it holds is a different story. If it is something critical I would do pre-heat, use high nickel rods, and pean (spelling) in between passes. There is lots of info you can read on this.

As much as I hate to say, someone like Cox probably knows the exact procedure and a lot more than I on the subject.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

wtf rowdy, just hit speed dial #2 (as I figure val made the move up over the long haired dirty meskin).... :flipoff2:

[Reckless]

yea but it was late and didnt feel like calling dirty south meskin

im going to mount my trackbar on the housing plate where the leaf spring is. Damn radius arms take up alot of that space

[breckboarder55]

ahh shiattt

I need help asap!

I have a Female side of a torx bit that is completely stripped out...

How do I get a female side out?

Im at my apartment with the jeep half apart except for one side...

[StevenAg03]

ahh shiattt

I need help asap!

I have a Female side of a torx bit that is completely stripped out...

How do I get a female side out?

Im at my apartment with the jeep half apart except for one side...

options:
-vicegrips
-cut off wheel to put a slot in it so you can use a flat screwdriver...
-hammer the next bigger size allen head in there...
-drill a hole in it, use easy-out, replace with normal bolt...

[Fredo]

Well, if you drill the head off of the torx, you can remove the part, then more than likely without tension on it, what is left of the bolt will spin out by hand once the part it is holding on is out of the way. If not, at that point vice grip it out.

[breckboarder55]

My dremel, vice grips, and drill are all at home...

Looks like I will try the hammer and allen. If that fails I will try and pick up some vice grips

Thanks guys,
hope this works

[breckboarder55]

Its a T-55, and I don't have any allens that size...

*waits for GF to come home so he can bum a ride to sears for Vice grips*

[Fredo]

5 gallons of gas + match. Preheat it, then it'll come right out. :)

[breckboarder55]

5 gallons of gas + match. Preheat it, then it'll come right out. :)

:eek: or I could get a map gas torch from sams (mine is also at home... :angry:)

[bburris]

Which bolt is it?

[RCcola55]

or you could come by here and borrow what you need

[redcagepatrol]

Well, if you drill the head off of the torx, you can remove the part, then more than likely without tension on it, what is left of the bolt will spin out by hand once the part it is holding on is out of the way. If not, at that point vice grip it out.

X2 - drill the head off - I guess it isn't countersunk?

another option (one which I have used on several situations) is to weld a short hex head bolt (the threaded end) to the stripped torx head. Guess you need a welder for that...

[breckboarder55]

Which bolt is it?

Its a T-55 for the sway bar.

I tried the allen wrench technique, no luck.

Bought a vice grip, no luck.

I am thinking about buying a hack saw and cutting it off, and than build some disconnects?

[Eckert]

theres not a bigger bit than t-55 you could hammer in there?

so its for the sway bar. so it has a nut on the back side. is the head of the bolt just spinning?

channel locks?

[JeepPhisherman]

Are you that concerned about a sway bar?

[BMFScout]

A TJ on the street?! I sure as fawk would be!

[FJAggie07]

Are you that concerned about a sway bar?

BIG difference between IFS and an a live axle with coils. BIG DIFFERENCE. A lifted TJ already has a ton of body roll, I would HATE to see it without a sway bar.

[bburris]

Its a T-55 for the sway bar.

I am thinking about buying a hack saw and cutting it off, and than build some disconnects?

Front one? If you're talking about the bolts that attach the sway bar link to the axle then you should be able to hammer a T-57(?) into that hole and try turning the nut on the other side. If you're talking about the rear then who cares, you don't need that one anyway.

[Sharpe]

If you still havent figured this sh!t out today, go to the Dexter Hizzy. I am at work but Clarke will probably be home because he's a worthless piece of sh!t. I will however, be home all day tomorow.

[breckboarder55]

BIG difference between IFS and an a live axle with coils. BIG DIFFERENCE. A lifted TJ already has a ton of body roll, I would HATE to see it without a sway bar.

Yes, I am that concerned about my DD front sway bar...

I am just about done cutting it off with a hack saw, and I have rigged up some disconnects to replace the bolt I have cut off.

Yes, there was a nut on the other side, it is the link for the front sway bar.

I tried the channel locks, the allen wrench thing, and the vice grips before this.

The allen made it strip more, the channel locks did nothing, and the vice grips some how managed to pop off and pop me in the head. :angry:

But I've got it taken care of now :gigem:

I really appreciate everyone thoughts, and the offers of help everyone gave. It really shows the generosity in the club. :D

[JeepPhisherman]

BIG difference between IFS and an a live axle with coils. BIG DIFFERENCE. A lifted TJ already has a ton of body roll, I would HATE to see it without a sway bar.

Hmm. My '88 XJ didn't have a front sway bar for a few weeks. I don't remember babying it and I definitely didn't park it.

[JeepPhisherman]

A TJ on the street?! I sure as fawk would be!

Even if it is a big deal, not a big enough deal that you couldn't reassemble without it, drive to Sears and then finish the job.

[TexTJ209]

TJs with the front swaybar disconnected aren't that bad. Drove mine for a while without one because the bolt to my quick disconnects backed out(when the instructions say to use loctite...it isn't a suggestion :laughing:).


T-55s are the worst on TJs. I broke three damned bits on one before just saying **** it.

[BMFScout]

I'm just saying I've driven one on 35's without sway bars and safe isn't how I would describe it. I'd hate to try to avoid a dog or something like that. I've driven one with 3 out of 4 links up front too, drove pretty good, wouldn't say it was safe by any means. Drive your ****piles however you want, not my funeral.

[jerryg79]

I'm just saying I've driven one on 35's without sway bars and safe isn't how I would describe it. I'd hate to try to avoid a dog or something like that. I've driven one with 3 out of 4 links up front too, drove pretty good, wouldn't say it was safe by any means. Drive your ****piles however you want, not my funeral.

ahhh, wtf do you know!?! retard!

[TexTJ209]

I'm just saying I've driven one on 35's without sway bars and safe isn't how I would describe it. I'd hate to try to avoid a dog or something like that. I've driven one with 3 out of 4 links up front too, drove pretty good, wouldn't say it was safe by any means. Drive your ****piles however you want, not my funeral.

Not sure I'd describe a Jeep as safe overall, even in good condition. ;)

[Eckert]

I'd hate to try to avoid a dog or something like that.

who would do such a thing?

[RCcola55]

If you still havent figured this sh!t out today, go to the Dexter Hizzy. I am at work but Clarke will probably be home because he's a worthless piece of sh!t. I will however, be home all day tomorow.

Atleast i have a job unlike the other ryan!

[Sharpe]

True dat.

[agjohn02]

I'm just saying I've driven one on 35's without sway bars and safe isn't how I would describe it. I'd hate to try to avoid a dog or something like that. I've driven one with 3 out of 4 links up front too, drove pretty good, wouldn't say it was safe by any means. Drive your ****piles however you want, not my funeral.

i think there is more than just a missing swaybar on that TJ. i rode in it once and if i'd had a pen and paper with me i would have began making out a last will and testament.

[85cj7]

Atleast i have a job unlike the other ryan!

I'll still graduate on time. . . and before you.:flipoff2:

[Sharpe]

Over rated.

[85cj7]

Over rated.

Am i going to beat you too?

[jerryg79]

Am i going to beat you too?

careful he's got a pipe!

[Sharpe]

Sabotage is a much better tool in this situation.

[Seth]

blankenship, this is the wrong crowd to feel good about grad on time around. sharpe is right.

[Fredo]

careful he's got a pipe!

Hazaa! Still funny!

[85cj7]

Hazaa! Still funny!

f*ck yah it is. HA HA

[85cj7]

careful he's got a pipe!

Are you from New York Jerry?

[Eckert]

is villa the best place in town to get machine work done? i might need to get a block bored out here in the next month.

[RCcola55]

they send it to a place in waco

[uglyota]

I think Cook's is the preferred machine shop now that we don't have an "in" at Vilas anymore. But see if Espearo would still recommend them.

[Seth]

Cook's no. Espearo I believe would say no as well. I think that they are the ones who send their stuff to Waco.

At vilas, from everything I have heard, you just have to talk to the right person.

It gets me to wondering if it is worth to take it somewhere like DFW or Houston or whatever town you are from.

I think I am going to stop by bill's speed shop when I am back in Irving and see if he's still around. He used to be big in Mopar Dragsters.

So, best way to purge air from PS pump = jack up front and saw wheel back and forth with engine running?

[DRAGOONRANCH]

So, best way to purge air from PS pump = jack up front and saw wheel back and forth with engine running?

For the most part, Yes.

[robertf03]

slacken the bleed screw if the box has one

[uglyota]

slacken

...whoa I thought I was reading a LR service manual there for a second...

[breckboarder55]

I'm looking to piece together a C02 tank on the cheap and was wondering if any body could help give me some direction. I have a compressor and it just dosent cut it, and I don't have the cash to spring for a nice one right now.

Harbor Freight has some cheap regulators and some tanks (I don't really know if its what I need)

It will pretty much only be used for tire inflation, but it would be cool to have an option of running air tools. (not that I own any, yet.)

[85cj7]

to run air tools you need an adjustable pressure regulator. ask creighton about building one on the cheap. or too bad sharpe beat you to buying the one creighton had for sale.

[TexTJ209]

I'm looking to piece together a C02 tank on the cheap and was wondering if any body could help give me some direction. I have a compressor and it just dosent cut it, and I don't have the cash to spring for a nice one right now.

Harbor Freight has some cheap regulators and some tanks (I don't really know if its what I need)

It will pretty much only be used for tire inflation, but it would be cool to have an option of running air tools. (not that I own any, yet.)

York OBA is cooler. :flipoff2:

[RCcola55]

and cheaper

[Fredo]

Yes, I also agree York OBA is the way to go if you have a way to easily mount it. But, this is a TJ right? I know Kilby Enterprises makes a TJ bracket kit for doing OBA, but price wise, what you're doing would probably be cheaper depending on what regulator you go with for your tank. Just do what most people in this club do...when you need air, make sure you're within 50ft of Lurch.

[BMFScout]

Lurch is my OBA!!

[breckboarder55]

Like I said, I don't have the cash to spring for it right now.

[Sharpe]

I would recomend OBA as well. With that said, I have had all the parts to assemble an OBA system for about 3 years and have yet to actually install any of it, mostly due to the PITA of making a bracket to mount it on my engine. And I just bought a CO2 setup from Creighton :laughing:

[TexTJ209]

If the 2.5L mounting is the same as the 4.0L mounting, the bracket is incredibly easy to make. Just go look at Kilby's design, and make one of your own out of scrap steel...so easy even I could do it. :gigem:

[AggieTJ2007]

The power steering pumps are in deferent locations on the 2.5 and 4.0L. Also if you don't have air conditioning it would be alot easier to mount. Anyways, the bracket is not hard but the clutches can be expensive. I am just going to turn my AC compressor into an air compressor because the AC is pretty useless in my jeep (it is fun to turn on just because I have it though)

Anways, I scored a great deal on my Regulator. It is not adjustable pressure but I picked it up used at some welding supply around BCS for $15.

[Seth]

Just do what most people in this club do...when you need air, make sure you're within 50ft of Lurch.

Or Lurch can get within 50 feet of you.

So if I have an old keg co2 tank and regulator, whats it worth?

[TexTJ209]

The power steering pumps are in deferent locations on the 2.5 and 4.0L. Also if you don't have air conditioning it would be alot easier to mount. Anyways, the bracket is not hard but the clutches can be expensive. I am just going to turn my AC compressor into an air compressor because the AC is pretty useless in my jeep (it is fun to turn on just because I have it though)

Anways, I scored a great deal on my Regulator. It is not adjustable pressure but I picked it up used at some welding supply around BCS for $15.



Clutches can be found cheaply though, I think I paid $30 for the two v-belt ones I've got.

[redcagepatrol]

Just do what most people in this club do...when you need air, make sure you're within 50ft of Lurch.

or my rig, or my Lynda's rig, or Busa's rig, or Cody's rig, or Rodneys rig, or Landons rig etc... etc...

[DRAGOONRANCH]

or mine...


There are enough folks in the club that have it that it would be smarter to just save the money you would spend on the tank, regulators and refills and put it towards an oba for yourself. There are a couple of good articles on how to convert your a/c compressor or find a york on some old vehicles on pbb. I know the 'wait and save your money' isn't what you wanted to hear, but it is by far the best advice.

[breckboarder55]

I am not loosing the A/C on my Jeep, its one of the reasons I bought it... The RX-7 dosent have A/C and I will not do that again... It's my DD, and that wont change for another 3 years or so.

So I need to look at welding shops for the regulator.

[TexTJ209]

I am not loosing the A/C on my Jeep, its one of the reasons I bought it... The RX-7 dosent have A/C and I will not do that again... It's my DD, and that wont change for another 3 years or so.

So I need to look at welding shops for the regulator.

Don't gotta lose A/C for the York.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Don't gotta lose A/C for the York.

Suckin' on all those rice fumes for all those years has got the boys grey matter all mushy. :rolleyes:


:D

[breckboarder55]

aahhh that makes things different...

[TMatheaus]

dana 60 out of an 89 F350 is kingpin correct?
and same truck should have sterling rear axle correct?

[eight]

si

[Seth]

I thought it was balljoint, like tates. Actually, Tate's is balljoint and I thought it was that old, so take that as you will. Either way, would a non king pin be a deal breaker with the high strength axles and u joints these days?

[eight]

Tate's was 92+

[JB]

I thought it was balljoint, like tates. Actually, Tate's is balljoint and I thought it was that old, so take that as you will. Either way, would a non king pin be a deal breaker with the high strength axles and u joints these days?

I run balljoint 60. Biggest disadvantage is the difficulty in doing crossover or high steer. I think there are some new high dollar BJ knuckles though now.

[Eckert]

good or bad idea?

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/mtnbikn/shackle.jpg

[Reckless]

Bad on foolsize from my research look in my Bandit thread. Lots of opinions and tech on that shackle design because i looked into the same idea.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

It's not street friendly at all, you will need some type of stabilizer more than likely if you plan on driving it safely down the blacktop...

[AggieTJ2007]

I agreed, muck like revolver and those hinged shackles it just gives you a little more unusable flex. Rubber bushings have enough play that they work great

[BMFScout]

revolvers don't affect street performance at all, but their usefulness is debatable.

[85cj7]

Asking all 9" gurus.

What years did Ford/Lincoln continentals come with a 9"? Availability? I heard these were the best housings to start with. Any other advice on junk yard 9" finds.

[mudtoy67]

Umm....pickups?;)


I think the car 9"s would be too much hassle. You'd have to torch all the link bracketry and redrill the axles (they had a 5 on 5" pattern I believe).

[85cj7]

well, I'm tempted to do this. . .
http://www.bc4x4.com/tech/2002/ff9/

[KrazyKarl02]

Asking all 9" gurus.

What years did Ford/Lincoln continentals come with a 9"? Availability? I heard these were the best housings to start with. Any other advice on junk yard 9" finds.

umm, how so? I mean I guess a car 9" is narrow, but as mentioned you would have to do some sort of odd axle redrill or expensive aftermarket axles. Additionally I would not use a chunk from a car. With the exception of a few kick arse 9" car's all the chunks I have seen are small bearing and less than 28 spline.

Perhaps an EB 9" might suit you. Or I know, just get an 8.8, I have one from an '84 bronco.

[BroncoJo]

there was a year when some had big bearring and disc brakes I believe. I remember way back in highschool we robbed the disc's off of something for a drum to disc conversion.

[85cj7]

Taken from the link on the previous page. . .

There are a few different housing designs that Ford put under their vehicles. Some of the housings are fairly weak and some are extremely strong. The one that is most desirable was factory equipment on Lincoln Continentals. This housing has the exact same shape of the Currie heavy-duty housing. The resemblance is so close that even the weld that surrounds the back of the center section stops in exactly the same spot. Hmmm, sort of makes you wonder, hey! One thing that is a little different about the two housings is that the Currie one contains 0.188" walled axle tubes and the Lincoln housing actually contains true 0.250" tubes. It seems a little odd that the Lincoln's 9" housings were made stronger than the truck housings. I guess one way you could look at it was that the Lincoln housings needed to stand up to the 429ci under the hood, which put out around 450 ft-pounds of torque.

[AggieTJ2007]

lincoln nines are good should even come with disk brakes.

5x5.5 is a great bolt pattern,

Full Float is a waste of money and time if you don't use dana 60 parts

[tigweld]

all the lincoln rears that i have gotten havs had 5x4.5, I know this because for the the longest time my 68' had different patterns front and rear. when I converted the nine to 5x5 I thought I would just get some different rotors or redrill teh ones I had, but once i had my new moser's I figured out the 5x5 pattern was to large to fit in the hat of the rotor even if I turned down the o.d. of the axle.

lincoln calipers are pieces of shiat anyway, better and cheaper disk brake options are out there

[tigweld]

also I have never seen one of these 1/4 wall tube 9"s

In all the 9"s I've fooked wit they have all been .188 and a little thicker near the outer bearing

[breckboarder55]

Alright, lets talk axles. (newb ?'s)

Currently I have Creighton's old D44, and am slowly accumulating parts to put it together. I previously planned on throwing some gears and a locker in the D30, but with intentions of eventually going 35"s, I want the piece of mind of having a more than adequate axles.
So, should I build the the D30, or pick up an HP30? Is the HP30 worth upgrading to? Benefits? Or should I find another 44 for the front?

Keep in mind this is my daily driver, and will be for at least another three years.

[Eckert]

i thought the TJ already had a HP30?

[breckboarder55]

i thought the TJ already had a HP30?

Nope. I believe Cherokees do though.

Which brings up another question, how different are the suspension brackets on the XJ than the TJ. I have never looked under an XJ but I assume they are similar.

[BMFScout]

front is the same, rear is leaf on a cheerookee.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

I wouldn't spend any money on upgrading a 30 if you plan on doing serious wheeling in the future.

[bburris]

Front track bar is different on early XJ's. I found this out the hard way. It's not hard to fix but it's something to look out for.

[eight]

Just keep the 30. A 44's hardly better. Swapping to 30HP doesn't get you anything as usually its the shafts or u-joints that go. Swapping to a 44 allows you to also break hubs. If you want to dump some money in it put some alloy shafts in it. Otherwise, get a spare pair of shafts and have some fun.

[breckboarder55]

Selectable hubs would give my an extra mpg or so... hmmmmm Less wear as well...

[Eckert]

Selectable hubs would give my an extra mpg or so... hmmmmm Less wear as well...

do you have a CAD axle?

[AggieTJ2007]

I don't think that hubs are going to get you any noticable difference in gas mileage, there is not that much rotating mass unlike a 60 in a truck

[eight]

How many TJs ever wear out an axle on the street?

[85cj7]

How wide is a scout 44? I don't know the year though.

[cj nut]

if i remember right the scout 44 and early waggy 44 are the same width, if that is true i can messure mine for you.... your talking about the front arnt you?

[uglyota]

what kind of bolts to use for collector so they don't have to be cut off after only 2 or 3 years? Grade 8? Zinc or uncoated? Locking (not nylock of course)?

[robertf03]

anti sieze

[uglyota]

That shiat won't melt out?

[85cj7]

That shiat won't melt out?

?. you use it on O2 sensors. that gets just as hot.

[uglyota]

good call. Gracias muchachos

[robertf03]

high heat nickel based shiat. some of it is o2 sensor safe, but for external bolts it shouldnt matter if you aren't retarded

[uglyota]

...if you aren't retarded

why you gotta go there? :D

[uglyota]

220 extension cords/adapters. The picture shows what I'm trying to do, and I think all I have to do is make sure the neutrals/grounds match up but want to make sure.
My stove outlet is the only 220 in the house for now. It's that goofy 50A NEMA turkey-foot looking plug and I want to plug my extension cord into it and have the other end standard dryer-plug style. Can I just match the round prong on the dryer plug end to the middle prong on the turkey foot end and I'm good to go? My only worry is that the descriptions keep referring to the round prong on the dryer style as Ground and the middle prong on the NEMA style as Neutral.
The next conversion is to go from dryer plug to 20A NEMA but I am pretty sure that's easier...the round ones are both ground, other prongs are each a leg of hot.
And since my extension cord has 4 wires in it, I would want to double the neutral/ground, right?
Anything else to worry about?

edit: going from NEMA 10-50 range outlet (2 hots and neutral) to NEMA 6-50 (2 hots and ground) to Nema 6-20 (2 hots and ground)

[Graystroke]

stick a volt meter in each leg until you find the ground. each leg should be 110v
black and red are each leg, white neutral, green ground.

[Graystroke]

also follow brass is black (hot-black/red) and silver is white (neutral)

[uglyota]

the 10-50 NEMA is antiquated, apparently, and has no ground, only neutral. But I am told I should be able to find an unused ground lead in the receptacle box so I just need to put a new receptacle in using all four leads and then adapt my stove to plug into it.

[KrazyKarl02]

I am told I should be able to find an unused ground lead in the receptacle box

Good luck, if your house is more than 10 years old I doubt it will have the extra ground.

[uglyota]

try 123 years old. But I think this wiring is probably more like 60. I'm with you though...doubt there will be anything in the box other than what I can see on the outside, so I guess that means me running a new ground over to the panel. Some guy on some other forum says he has an extension cord like I was planning to make, and that it is okay for temporary uses, but I don't really want to burn my house down so I am thinking I might just do it the right way.

[Sharpe]

Cant the conduit be used as a ground if its metal?

[uglyota]

If there is, in fact, conduit...

[Sharpe]

That does present a small logistical issue.

[Graystroke]

if there is conduit you can use it as a ground and then jump it again at the panel. if the panel is grounded it will be fine.
take a pic.

[Sharpe]

Does anyone know how to remove the oil cooler lines from a 98 K3500 with a 7.4? It looks like a push-lock type fitting but it is larger and plastic. I have a set of the removers but they dont seem to be working. I need to remove the hoses so I can get to the pan bolts to remove them.

[uglyota]

you don't just break them and get new ones, like you do with the rest of the quick-connects on an old chevy?

[Reckless]

i think there is a clip that you pull out where the slots on the side of the fitting is

[Sharpe]

i think there is a clip that you pull out where the slots on the side of the fitting is

On newer motors like my 8.1, yes. The 7.4 has the push-lock quick disconnects. I ordered new lines and fittings today so I think I'm just gonna take bolt cutters to the old ones and pull the fittings out with a socket. Probably needed to be replaced anyway right...

[DRAGOONRANCH]

We need pictures to make a proper decision on this.

[85cj7]

Rusty muffler in bryan is the best in town. That doesn't mean much here in college station, But i'm sure he can do a "hotpocket" worthy job.

[Eckert]

you just dumping the stock exhaust? lame.

[Eckert]

is a t5/231 from a s10 a bolt and go swap for a ax5/231 in a jeep YJ? if not, whats involved. i cant find a damn thing.

[Doug Krebs]

Sharpe said the same thing. Thanks for the info, just wanted a second opinion.. Getting a dump put on the truck (20 bucks from summit :flipoff2:) I'll post up a vid when it gets here.

WTF is wrong with you? Leave the ****ing truck alone.

[FJAggie07]

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9286/club2.jpg

bwahahahahahahaha! This is a monumental occasion! Hot Pockets got his first burn!


We should make that picture of Dougie into a smiley... you know everything you type in :krebs: it pops up with that picture! And of course Ed could use the :blackkrebs: all the time.

It could be like, "Hey I just joo'd me a deal on a great HAM radio, I just pulled a http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9286/club2.jpg"

[Doug Krebs]

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9286/club2.jpg

Son of a *****! I'm going to go desecrate those blue neons!

[BroncoJo]

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9286/club2.jpg

:laughing::laughing: About damn time

[Doug Krebs]

:laughing::laughing: About damn time

<------Damn I'm sexy!

[FJAggie07]

<------Damn I'm sexy!

I think that is the first time you have changed your avatar in like 2.5 years...

[JB]

$20 part to make your brand new truck sound awful. Have you learned nothing? If you are not going to do it right, at least go to Rusty's and get a Magnaflow dumped over the rear axle. Dont think it was more thatn $150.

BUT, good burn!

[Doug Krebs]

I wish! I was told I'm not allowed to put anything on the truck that will make it louder... So any kind of muffler upgrade is a no-no. This works out since I can keep it closed when I want and open when I want.

Aside from everything early, leave the thing alone. A $20 pos part could ruin your warranty if they want to be asses about it.

I can't ever fathom doing this on a brand new truck...

[bcolman]

Aside from everything early, leave the thing alone. A $20 pos part could ruin your warranty if they want to be asses about it.

thats assuming that dodge isnt going to go bankrupt

[BMFScout]

see if he'll put stacks through the hood. I say you are a ***** if you don't leave there with stacks through the hood or at least behind the cab. I'd also tell him to rip that faggot catalytic converter off there. Those are dumb.

[jerryg79]

i already suggested zoomies, but he's too much of a puss!

[DRAGOONRANCH]

thats assuming that dodge isnt going to go bankrupt

Mom?!?!

[DRAGOONRANCH]

I think that is the first time you have changed your avatar in like 2.5 years...

I have been around 3 years and it was like that when I started stalki...er, lookin around. I never did hear the story behind the last one, but the new one is klassik for sure. :gigem:

[Doug Krebs]

I have been around 3 years and it was like that when I started stalki...er, lookin around. I never did hear the story behind the last one, but the new one is klassik for sure. :gigem:

The old one is a story in itself. It all started with a trip to Gilmer with the Brunes. Long story short... oh hell there has to be thread on this... I'll be back in a second.

Well there apparently wasn't a big to do about it... Not even a picture posted that I can find. There's a little detail in there. http://www.tamor.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2777&highlight=gilmer&page=2

[DRAGOONRANCH]

the picture links aren't working for me. :(

I remember hearing stories of that flop, but never caught the connection to your old avatar. :laughing:

[DRAGOONRANCH]

http://offroadrepublic.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=12079&g2_highlightId=12130

nm, found some.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

http://offroadrepublic.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=42263&g2_serialNumber=2

[Reckless]

They see me rollin
They hatin
Patrolling they tryin to catch me ridin dirty
Tryin to catch me ridin dirty

[DRAGOONRANCH]

:laughing:

[uglyota]

silverstar vs silverstar ultra?

[AggieTJ2007]

ultra's always better

[jerryg79]

waste
get HID's, they'll outlast the life of your car

or at least until you have to give the car back or blow it up with a cutout:flipoff2:

[TexTJ209]

waste
get HID's, they'll outlast the life of your car

You've never seen Eric's vehicles..

[uglyota]

srsly. The current, factory bulbs would probably still be going strong when I wreck this truck, but they suck. I'm trying to figure out where the $30 for new, better bulbs is better spent. (hint: it's not on a cutout for my exhaust :flipoff2: )
I read somewhere on this here dangol interweb that the ultras are whiter, but not brighter, and they're all over ebay which is suggesting to me that maybe they really aren't as good as the original silverstars, so I was hoping someone would be able to offer a little more insight.

[TexTJ209]

I read somewhere on this here dangol interweb that the ultras are whiter, but not brighter, and they're all over ebay which is suggesting to me that maybe they really aren't as good as the original silverstars, so I was hoping someone would be able to offer a little more insight.



I remember reading a review that said something similar, I'll try to find it..

[Sharpe]

Does heat (say, engine heat "for example") help or hinder JB Weld's curing time?

[robertf03]

I don't know, but doesn't heat accelerates polymer crosslinking? read the package and see if its got temperature ranges. might be in the MSDS

[Doug Krebs]

I don't know, but doesn't heat accelerates polymer crosslinking?

:laughing: Somebody took a materials course recently.

Anybody have a TA in MET named Rahul? Skinny short smelly shy indian guy?

[uglyota]

with a lot of epoxies (and concrete) heat accelerates curing, but the resultant material isn't as strong, so in some applications you want to keep it cool until fully cured for the strongest end product

[TexTJ209]

Skinny short smelly shy indian guy?

Oh, because that narrows it down.


My 402 TA fits the description, but his name is "Udaya Bhanu Prakash Sunku."

[bburris]

Sharpe-
JB Weld didn't hold up to an exhaust manifold on my Jeep if that helps in your decision.

[BMFScout]

I was about to say, its a janky idea at best, whatever you are doing. :)

[stx4wheeler]

heat was not so good on karls gas tank jb weld repair.

[KrazyKarl02]

Does heat (say, engine heat "for example") help or hinder JB Weld's curing time?

When I was "fixing" the dirt bike gas tank it was cold outside, so I got my heat gun, applied to the JB Weld and the results where horrible. Heat makes JB weld's viscocity turn into that of water, the crap started flowing everywhere. I would not recommend it.

[Sharpe]

Cracked the aluminum lower intake plenum on my crewcab's go-fitty-fo. A new one is $450 (A&M cost...) and I have no desire to remove the intake to have the crack TIG'd until absolutely neccesary. The crack is about an inch long starting at a threaded hole and coolant seeps through it fairly rapidly. I got some leak stopper from napa called Dike and it stopped the leak within about 10 minutes of driving. Made it all the way to Houston and back today and still no leaks so I'd say its good to go. I put some JB weld on top of the crack just for good measure yesterday while the motor was hot before the trip and will concur that yes, its viscosity goes to **** when hot. Oh well, problem solved...for now...

[J Cooper]

anyone else had this problem with heims?

the heims for my steering ram are 5/8 and the bolt was a tight fit when i put in on. (both heims)

right before i loaded it on the trailer at trees i noticed a little play in the steering wheel.

i took out the bolt from the ram and there is a good 1/4 play from side to side between the bolt and the ID of the heim.

i will take it off again later and get a picture, but both heims were exactly the same way.

the bolt still fits in the tabs perfectly so the wear is in the heims themselves


WTF???

cheap heims?

[AggieTJ2007]

sound like it or they got stretched

[J Cooper]

sound like it or they got stretched

so just get some better heims?

these are the ones that came from PSC. this is the first real trip with them, they were fine after clayton.

i do not want to buy new heims after every trip i go on.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

I have the PSC ones, and still no play in them. Maybe somebody took your good ones and swapped in their wore ones to be super cheap??? :flipoff2:

[uglyota]

5/8, or 5/8 x 3/4? 5/8 x 5/8 is a pretty small heim, in that size and application I would get the baddest dude money could buy. If you can upgrade to 5/8x3/4 even better. Surprised PSC would spec something that wouldn't hold up though. Is the heim sitting on threads?

[bcolman]

i have psc one too and no play, i would call/e-mail psc and see what they say about them