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Hot Pocket
05-17-2009, 10:05 PM
So after enough bull****ting and deciding whether or not to get something, I just went and picked this up. For the money, Frick gave me a great deal but it needs a lot of work.

Here are some pictures of where it's at. I'm going tomorrow to pick up a few essential tools.. not really going to be able to get to any of the work for a while.. so it looks like it's just gonna sit for a bit until I can get the tools.

It's missing a tranny... well not really missing. There are two in the back (See pictures.) According to Frick, one is the stock TH400 quadratrac (not working, and was pulled) and another is a TH400 from a chevy (won't fit because of the bellhausing I believe.) Correct me if I'm wrong on any of this Frick.

So I'm stuck with two trannys that don't work, but I think I'm gonna sell the chevy TH400 (as soon as I figure out which one it is) and borrow a transmission jack to get that on there.

Lastly... I know I'm biting off a lot more than I can chew here, and I would appreciate as little bull**** as possible about it. I know that a lot of you here know your ****, so all I'm asking is that you refrain from clogging up the thread with **** about how I have no idea what I'm doing, and just keep it to suggestions and information that I can actually use and learn from.. Or at least until I can get my bearings under me. It's been established that I'm in over my head, but I've gotta start somewhere.

Pics-
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Hot Pocket
05-17-2009, 10:06 PM
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v3775/156/41/816379621/n816379621_2586206_7726361.jpg

What is this thing??
http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v3775/156/41/816379621/n816379621_2586207_3427941.jpg

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v3775/156/41/816379621/n816379621_2586208_5188175.jpg

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v3775/156/41/816379621/n816379621_2586210_645673.jpg

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Hot Pocket
05-17-2009, 10:08 PM
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v3775/156/41/816379621/n816379621_2586302_7934635.jpg

ceiling is completely rusted out... suggestions on this?
http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v3775/156/41/816379621/n816379621_2586303_1308463.jpg

Here's one of the trannys... if someone could let me know more info about it, that'd be great
http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v3775/156/41/816379621/n816379621_2586304_4994029.jpg

and the other
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v3775/156/41/816379621/n816379621_2586305_7127783.jpg

my parking brake
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v3775/156/41/816379621/n816379621_2586306_523068.jpg

Hot Pocket
05-17-2009, 10:10 PM
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v3775/156/41/816379621/n816379621_2586323_3076261.jpg

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Sharpe
05-17-2009, 10:12 PM
Neither one of those transmissions is for a chevy. Did all a/c equiped AMC motors come with york compressors?

BroncoJo
05-17-2009, 10:16 PM
good luck?...:p



I would keep an eye out for similar vehicles and just buy whole to get the parts you need. I know I sold a running and driving one of these for like 300.

J Cooper
05-17-2009, 10:17 PM
Neither one of those transmissions is for a chevy. Did all a/c equiped AMC motors come with york compressors?

mine had a sanden

robertf03
05-17-2009, 10:21 PM
first transmission is AMC bellhousing th400
second transmission is Buick bellhousing.
unidentified thing is probably the voltage regulator for the alternator

you have offset axles and that limits your transfercase options unless you want to do the crazy angle driveshaft thing, but I don't think thats a good idea.

options from least kickass to most kickass:
put stock stuff back in, th400 and borg warner transfercase
buy adapter and put th400 in with dana 18
put 727 out of 80 and newer wagoneer with IH adapter and run a dana 18
swap rear axle and put 727 out of 80 and newer wagoneer with a dana 300
put 727 out of 80 and newer wagoneer with 85 and older Land Rover adapter and run LT230 transfercase

Hot Pocket
05-17-2009, 10:21 PM
Also, does anyone have the tools needed to mate a transmission to this thing? I'm not going to be able to do it right away, since I need to rebuild the carb first... but it's in the back of my mind.

And Sharpe, I could have sworn Frick said one of those trannys came from a chevy...

EDIT: Thanks Flem!

Doug Krebs
05-17-2009, 10:32 PM
I just deleted 3 responses that I was going to write. I'll just say good luck and pray hard at night. Jesus is the only one that's going to make this happen.

Edit: tools required to stab a tranny? A jack, some assorted wrenches and sockets... You'd better start investing. I hate to say this, but the tool set at work we got from harbor freight was fairly complete and has held up well.

mudtoy67
05-17-2009, 10:35 PM
Well...it's going to be a learning experience.:laughing:

Unless you just happen to fall into a quadrajunk transfer case for cheap I would plan on something else. Flem's option 4 of the late TF727 and D300 sounds like a good combo. The 727 is not generally popular but sounds better than the other options. On the more complicated side maybe a manual trans and D300 from a CJ would work? The more complicated part being you would have to figure out how to put a clutch pedal and hydraulics in.

And don't worry about people ****ting on your thread. Just remember...**** happens.:D

robertf03
05-17-2009, 10:46 PM
cj transmissions are shorter, shifter would be in the wrong place. 360 flywheels are kind of hard to find too. They are balanced to the engine so any amc flywheel won't work.

Eckert
05-17-2009, 10:56 PM
i would say the "thingy" is a fomoco ignition module. amc used any and everybodys parts. the 70's cherokee i had also had one, except it was melted to the fender. thus why it doesnt run. does it have another ignition box on it somewhere? should be able to chase the wires from the distributor to what im talking about.

goodluck. there are only two jeeps i like. a willys pick-up and a 2 door cherokee. whether it be a FSJ or a XJ. IF you ever, and if, get this together and working, it will be one cool rig.

are the amc 360 engine mounts the same as dodge?

robertf03
05-17-2009, 11:09 PM
that jeep has gold box ignition, not duraspark.

Reckless
05-18-2009, 12:09 AM
if that TH400 is for a buick, i might steal it from ya if its worth a damn pockets

Hot Pocket
05-18-2009, 12:28 AM
if that TH400 is for a buick, i might steal it from ya if its worth a damn pockets

Apparently, that's the good transmission.. it just doesn't fit.

colman
05-18-2009, 12:39 AM
i traded junior a v8 fsj t18 and d20 with the correct tunnel cover and peddle assy. don't know if he is going to use it so you might call him. he doesn't get on here very often

if you do go manual you have to get a tranny from a v8, the i6 manuals are different

Reckless
05-18-2009, 12:44 AM
Apparently, that's the good transmission.. it just doesn't fit.

exactly and ive got a













































wait for it

































Buick motor!

Hot Pocket
05-18-2009, 12:55 AM
I'd like to keep it an automatic


the irony of that statement...

TexTJ209
05-18-2009, 01:17 AM
Well...first off, its not a Chief. Chief was an option package that only came on Wide-Trac Cherokees...yours is a Narrow-Trac Cherokee S. (Difference being wider axles and large fender flares, as you can see on my POS Golden Eagle Cherokee below, which is a Wide-Trac)

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p308/TexTJ209/1979%20Jeep%20Cherokee%20Golden%20Eagle/IMG_00181.jpg

(And yes I know you have the Indian Head emblem on the dash...Jeep put those on basically every Cherokee, which further adds to the present day confusion.)

Both of the transmissions are correct for an FSJ, just the Buick one is for earlier FSJs back when AMC was using up the leftovers from the Buick 350 years.


Neither one of those transmissions is for a chevy. Did all a/c equiped AMC motors come with york compressors?

Up until the later (85+?) FSJ models, all FSJs did. I don't know about CJs though.


if you do go manual you have to get a tranny from a v8, the i6 manuals are different

The V8 transmissions just have a giant spacer in front of them to make up the length difference versus the I6. You can run it without the spacer in an FSJ with a little bit of effort.

colman
05-18-2009, 01:58 AM
the input shaft of the tranny is longer bc of that spacer so he would have to swap out input shafts

sanden compressors were installed with dealer air and york's were factory air i believe

BMFScout
05-18-2009, 02:13 AM
All badass rigs need a name, I dub this one "The Quief."

Hot Pocket
05-18-2009, 02:57 AM
All badass rigs need a name, I dub this one "The Quief."

I've tolerated a lot of your ****... and I don't know what your deal is, but with all due respect

**** off

DRAGOONRANCH
05-18-2009, 03:29 AM
All badass rigs need a name, I dub this one "The Quief."

:laughing:


I've tolerated a lot of your ****... and I don't know what your deal is, but with all due respect

**** off

Trust me, I am pretty sure that Jimmy is not trying to rain on your parade. I like the new nickname myself. :gigem:

mudtoy67
05-18-2009, 07:16 AM
I've tolerated a lot of your ****... and I don't know what your deal is, but with all due respect

**** off

Seriously...


And don't worry about people ****ting on your thread. Just remember...**** happens.:D

Don't sweat it.

TexTJ209
05-18-2009, 07:41 AM
the input shaft of the tranny is longer bc of that spacer so he would have to swap out input shafts



Yeah, that too. :D

FJAggie07
05-18-2009, 08:49 AM
I've tolerated a lot of your ****... and I don't know what your deal is, but with all due respect

**** off

That was actually said in Jimmy-Love. All great Projects in this club have a some what nasty name think about it. The Sanchez and The Salty Nutsack? Get over yourself already, you called it the Chief, it's funny to be the Queif. (Is that even how you spell Queif???) :gigem:


BTW, Good Luck. But if you want help, like what you see above you can't **** where you eat and tell people to Fawk Off. It isn't conducive at all. ;)

KrazyKarl02
05-18-2009, 09:10 AM
Hot Pocket, Congratulations on buying your first tird, uh I mean money pit, uh scratch that I mean off road rig. Here are some things that might help you:

1) On the passenger fender well there are 2 "magic boxes". One is the voltage regulator, this is a motorcraft part it will say something like "I A F S" on the plug. The second is your ignition box. Both of these should be considered "magic" and you should never touch them

2) I know Frick did not have a title, so I assume you do not. Having a registered and "inspected" vehicle can save you a lot of headaches in College Station. Here is a link to a company that can get you a title for under $200 without much hassle:

http://www.broadwaytitle.com/

3) Transmissions - The one with the giant hole in the case is the original TH400 that fits that jeep.

4) Here is a great piece of advice and one which you will probably ignore. Open up "Excel" Make a column for a description for everything you want to do to thi truck. Make another column with how much you think it will cost, then make a 3rd column for priority. I would concentrate on getting this thing running, make that priority 1 (transmission, etc...) Then make the other things you will want to do like blue neons, locking gas cap, rainbow sticker, etc... higher priorities. See how much it costs and stick with the plan. Do your priority one things first. It sounds stupid, but ask around how many people in the club have bought parts for something they never got to.

5) I applaud you on spelling Chief right, Kevin did not in his post, however Jimmy's nickname is funny, the more you hate it, the more we will use it. I originally tried to name The Klogger the MF-150 for mother f..... yeah you get the idea, however after 2 trips where it more or less made it to the trail head and died, the name The Klogger just kind of stuck. I mean look at it now, it has a cool name and is pretty much the most extreme truck in the club.....

mudtoy67
05-18-2009, 09:17 AM
Here's a cheap trans and quadrajunk tcase.

http://www.texas4x4.org/showthread.php?t=27175

Of course it'll cost a couple hundred to rebuild the trans, and if the tcase turns out bad I think the price low enough to not worry about it.

jerryg79
05-18-2009, 09:27 AM
My predictions:
When will it be sold: Aug 09
Who will piss Hot Fockup off the most - Jimmy
How will Hot Hockup kill himself: in the library with the candlestick

Seriously, when I goto church and visualize heaven, its me reading this thread and laughing all day everyday.

Sharpe
05-18-2009, 09:35 AM
Ryan, dont even think of trying to rebuild an auto tranny or swap in a manual yet. Just installing one will be enough of an endeavour for you. Try to find a good, working take-out trans with whatever t-case you can get, then figure out the rear axle and driveshaft situation from there.

TexTJ209
05-18-2009, 09:37 AM
Ryan, dont even think of trying to rebuild an auto tranny or swap in a manual yet. Just installing one will be enough of an endeavour for you. Try to find a good, working take-out trans with whatever t-case you can get, then figure out the rear axle and driveshaft situation from there.

+1, and ignore the douchebags.


Spend $50 on a car cover if you're storing it in town...keeps the man off your back.

JB
05-18-2009, 10:00 AM
I can not think of a worse project for you than this.

JB
05-18-2009, 10:02 AM
http://collegestation.craigslist.org/cto/1164135157.html

Runs and drives, you should have bought it.

mudtoy67
05-18-2009, 10:05 AM
I can not think of a worse project for you than this.

SILENCE!!

jerryg79
05-18-2009, 10:18 AM
"Hot Pocket's Hot Mess" has a nice ring to it.


hot mess
Someone or Something that is such a mess... the level of it, is off of the charts. It's past pathetic, past pitiful. It's to the point you almost have to walk away to keep from bustin a gut. Hot messes can exist in levels.

TexTJ209
05-18-2009, 11:30 AM
Paint it silver and you can call it the Moldy Burrito.

Hot Pocket
05-18-2009, 11:51 AM
Karl - Thanks for all of that.. a lot

Jimmy - Sorry for over-reacting.. I wasn't exactly, err sober.

Mudtoy - I did a lot of research yesterday on misc. stuff, and from what I read the quadratrac sucks... Since I've got time and after talking to Frick... I'd like to find a Dana 20 for it and avoid having to spend a whole bunch of money right away on an adapter for a Dana 300

As far as transmissions go.. The Turbo 400 in the back is no good. Frick said that it's basically been cracked and isn't really worth the money to get it fixed. I'd like to get rid of the other one and use the money for that to buy a TH400 that will fit, or a straight up trade would be good. So if anyone knows a hookup that could get me a working TH400, give em my number.

I think I'll get on that excel sheet now.

Sharpe
05-18-2009, 11:53 AM
I've got a couple dana 20's that need a good home. Not sure on the applications they are originally from though.

FJAggie07
05-18-2009, 11:58 AM
I think I'll get on that excel sheet now.

Very Good Idea, I have made a sheet for all of my builds and never once stuck to them. :laughing: :D

BMFScout
05-18-2009, 11:59 AM
I won't **** anymore in your thread, I'll try to be constructive. However, you have clearly illustrated that you aren't interested in our advice if you actually try to build this thing instead of buying something that runs, isn't rusted through in every panel, and actually has aftermarket support. Go ask Chris Scotti what he thinks about this idea. I say Chris not to be an ass, but because I think he was probably in your shoes at one point (except his truck ran) and I would say his mechanical abilities were probably similar if not better. He spent THOUSANDS of dollars on his truck, had a shop in town do a lot of the work, and in the end he parted it out and bought his buggy. I'm thinking he will probably say to take some advice from the club on things like this, (maybe not when it comes with sleeping with your roomate, but definitely when it comes to trucks) I like Karl's idea of the spreadsheet, and price out everything, regearing, bearings you will need, tools you will have to buy, brakes, fluids, steering, seats, wheels, tires, (even minor details like transfer cases and a transmission) etc. etc. Then take whatever you have estimated and multiply it by 1.5 or 2 to get what you probably are actually going to spend. If you still like that idea, and have a place you can spend every week/weekend of your college career working on it, do eeet. I'm just saying the only people in the club to buy a shell of a vehicle like this and make it an offroad rig either know their ****, and/or have enough money to make it happen. In my mind, minimum it would take around a grand to get that thing on the trail using used everything, and not anything cool, just running around. Ask frick what he has in that abortion that he is trying not to spend any money on whatsoever. Ok, I'll quit here, I'm sorry again for ****ting on The Quief, and doubting your abilities, it's not really anything personal, it's just this is a terrible idea.

TexTJ209
05-18-2009, 12:00 PM
Karl - Thanks for all of that.. a lot

Jimmy - Sorry for over-reacting.. I wasn't exactly, err sober.

Mudtoy - I did a lot of research yesterday on misc. stuff, and from what I read the quadratrac sucks... Since I've got time and after talking to Frick... I'd like to find a Dana 20 for it and avoid having to spend a whole bunch of money right away on an adapter for a Dana 300

As far as transmissions go.. The Turbo 400 in the back is no good. Frick said that it's basically been cracked and isn't really worth the money to get it fixed. I'd like to get rid of the other one and use the money for that to buy a TH400 that will fit, or a straight up trade would be good. So if anyone knows a hookup that could get me a working TH400, give em my number.

I think I'll get on that excel sheet now.


The Quadratrac doesn't suck. Its just received a bad reputation due to a long line of idiots who didn't maintain them, or just didn't understand how they work. For daily driving, snow, wet roads, and minor offroading...they're great. They aren't a rockcrawler's t-case though.


Are the internals of that TH400 good? Tranny housing damage from the crappy front shaft was so common with FSJs they actually used to make a repair kit for them...

Hot Pocket
05-18-2009, 12:18 PM
Are the internals of that TH400 good? Tranny housing damage from the crappy front shaft was so common with FSJs they actually used to make a repair kit for them...

No. He said it's junk

stx4wheeler
05-18-2009, 12:36 PM
it is cracked pretty damn bad but i would look into the repair kit if it is still made. the other tranny is from an fsj but not the right bellhousing you need.

i would go find another th-400 and quadra-trac and call it good. Im pretty sure if u put a center t-case in there it would not be a problem with that axle, because i have a offset t-case and a centered rear axle.

the roof is not rusted out that is mainly surface rust.

good luck look for the guy i mentioned that was selling fsj stuff on craigslist.

robertf03
05-18-2009, 01:26 PM
Mudtoy - I did a lot of research yesterday on misc. stuff, and from what I read the quadratrac sucks... Since I've got time and after talking to Frick... I'd like to find a Dana 20 for it and avoid having to spend a whole bunch of money right away on an adapter for a Dana 300


you don't need an adapter for a 300, you need a 1980 and up transmission.

colman
05-18-2009, 01:30 PM
but if you did that unless you got a cj tranny you would have to get a d300 b/c the 80 and up fsj's are drivers drop

robertf03
05-18-2009, 01:36 PM
so your saying to bolt a dana 300 up to a transmission you would have to first obtain a dana 300? Damn, thats very eye opening ;)

FJAggie07
05-18-2009, 02:06 PM
I won't **** anymore in your thread, I'll try to be constructive. However, you have clearly illustrated that you aren't interested in our advice if you actually try to build this thing instead of buying something that runs, isn't rusted through in every panel, and actually has aftermarket support. Go ask Chris Scotti what he thinks about this idea. I say Chris not to be an ass, but because I think he was probably in your shoes at one point (except his truck ran) and I would say his mechanical abilities were probably similar if not better. He spent THOUSANDS of dollars on his truck, had a shop in town do a lot of the work, and in the end he parted it out and bought his buggy. I'm thinking he will probably say to take some advice from the club on things like this, (maybe not when it comes with sleeping with your roomate, but definitely when it comes to trucks) I like Karl's idea of the spreadsheet, and price out everything, regearing, bearings you will need, tools you will have to buy, brakes, fluids, steering, seats, wheels, tires, (even minor details like transfer cases and a transmission) etc. etc. Then take whatever you have estimated and multiply it by 1.5 or 2 to get what you probably are actually going to spend. If you still like that idea, and have a place you can spend every week/weekend of your college career working on it, do eeet. I'm just saying the only people in the club to buy a shell of a vehicle like this and make it an offroad rig either know their ****, and/or have enough money to make it happen. In my mind, minimum it would take around a grand to get that thing on the trail using used everything, and not anything cool, just running around. Ask frick what he has in that abortion that he is trying not to spend any money on whatsoever. Ok, I'll quit here, I'm sorry again for ****ting on The Quief, and doubting your abilities, it's not really anything personal, it's just this is a terrible idea.

Give the Governor a Harumph!! Harumph, Harumph!!!

Jimmy =

http://www.donaldsensing.com/Pix/0402/Brooksgov.jpg

Hot Pocket
05-18-2009, 02:40 PM
Time to get realistic.

Who wants what parts?



1976 cherokee cheif 2 door
360 v-8 with 4 barrel edelbrock carb, guy i bought it from said it ran pretty good but might need the carb rebuilt, unknown mileage.

2- th400 trans one that came out of the truck that the case is trashed because of a blown front d-shaft(evidently a common problem in wagoneer/cherokees of this vintage. The other trans supposedly came out of a 79 wagoneer, but doesnt have the same bell housing pattern as the one that came from the truck

4 -stock aluminium 5 slot 6 lug 15inch wheels with stock rear hub caps

suspension- front sprungover with stock springs, and a 1 block under the springs. Caster has set at 5 degree's when the perches were welded on. Rear 6 in skyjacker block kit. Steering is stock steering flipped over the knuckles(may be stock) with a 6 inch skyjacker drop pitman arm. The brake lines have been extended.

Dana 44's f/r previous owner said that it had 3.54 gears.

Driveshafts i have both f/r driveshafts the front needs one of the u-joints in the double cardan joint. i have a spare front d-shaft that will go with it.

Motor has a york, and will come with a battery, also has cruise control but it is not hooked up. Motor was running when tranny was pulled.

Body has been completey bedlined with some thing like dupli-color or herculiner. Body has maybe 4 spots with bondo, but they hardly noticable. This truck has some of the best sheetmetal as far as rust that i have seen on jeeps of this age that are in the sub 1k dollar range. Interior is stock, but seats need recovering. Floor pans and floor are solid and have been bedlined as well. factory roof rack still installed and in good shape. The back windows still open. All windows in the truck are manual and work. The back tailgate is missing the glass but i will throw in the one from my wagoneer. The front grille is also in great shape and has a good shine to it. Tailgate is a little hard to close.

The previous owner used a boat gas tank behind the driver seat to fuel the truck but i will throw in a stock tank that will work in this truck as well.

The back c-channel crossmember that runs under the tailgate of the truck has been removed, because of getting bent when the truck was pulled out of the mud when the tranny broke before i bought it.

TexTJ209
05-18-2009, 02:42 PM
Wait...what?

If you're doing what I'm taking that as...

I want the wheels, rear manual window setup, and the carb.

Hot Pocket
05-18-2009, 02:43 PM
Wait...what?

If you're doing what I'm taking that as...

I want the wheels, rear manual window setup, and the carb.

How much.. my goal is to just make back what I sold it for, and a little extra to cover the tools I'm gonna need to buy.

I figure this is a much smarter way to get my bearings under me while getting me some experience in the whole thing

KrazyKarl02
05-18-2009, 02:46 PM
:eek:

Hot Pocket
05-18-2009, 02:48 PM
:eek:

I have you to thank for this

I got started on the excel sheet and all the little $20 trips to o'reilly add up, fast

Not to mention my boss came back at me today with "we aren't going to be able to get you more than 25 hours" when I had asked him the previous week for 40+ and he said no problem. I'm probably going to drag this thing home to Houston and part it out there.

Yeah, sweet blog I know:flipoff2:

jerryg79
05-18-2009, 02:48 PM
Damn it, can you still use the candle stick in the library?

This has to be some sort of record flemming-out!

FJAggie07
05-18-2009, 02:52 PM
This has to be some sort of record flemming-out!

x2!!

Hot Pocket, I think you can get what you need to, actually you can probably make a little.

TexTJ209
05-18-2009, 02:54 PM
I have you to thank for this

I got started on the excel sheet and all the little $20 trips to o'reilly add up, fast

Not to mention my boss came back at me today with "we aren't going to be able to get you more than 25 hours" when I had asked him the previous week for 40+ and he said no problem. I'm probably going to drag this thing home to Houston and part it out there.

Yeah, sweet blog I know:flipoff2:



Honestly, I would've tried to help ya with this project any way I could, as I'm sure most people in the club would have. But you're definitely taking the smarter course of action here...this Cherokee is/was not a great starting point for a lot of people, and is worth more as parts than as a whole. Just keep saving those pennies, and I'm sure a far better rig will come along that you can afford. (Coming from a moron with two project Jeeps with no end in sight :gigem:)

You've got a PM.


Put a parting out ad on the IFSJA.org's boards, and if you're willing to do a little effort shipping...you should make money on this thing.

mudtoy67
05-18-2009, 03:09 PM
Look!! Hot Pocket is setting an example for what about half of us should have done with our projects!:gigem:

KrazyKarl02
05-18-2009, 03:11 PM
I have you to thank for this

I got started on the excel sheet and all the little $20 trips to o'reilly add up, fast

Hey man, it gets scary when you add up how much stuff costs. Imagine trying to build a nice car like my chevelle, where you have 4g's in paint and an engine with $3500 in machine work alone....

Anywho, I know a guy who will give you $100 for the axles.

Hot Pocket
05-18-2009, 03:14 PM
Hey man, it gets scary when you add up how much stuff costs. Imagine trying to build a nice car like my chevelle, where you have 4g's in paint and an engine with $3500 in machine work alone....

Anywho, I know a guy who will give you $100 for the axles.

Great.. give him my number

713 470 7658

And yeah... after sleeping on it, I just feel like it's smarter to repeat this process until I can get a decent rig.

jerryg79
05-18-2009, 03:22 PM
Hey man, it gets scary when you add up how much stuff costs. Imagine trying to build a nice car like my chevelle, where you have 4g's in paint and an engine with $3500 in machine work alone....

Anywho, I know a guy who will give you $100 for the axles.

Karl you're a genius! Use a spreadsheet to predict and track costs!?! I feel like this could really help the construction industry! I might try to integrate a couple of spreadsheets into my daily work....hell i might even replace this abacus with one of them calculators!

mudtoy67
05-18-2009, 03:22 PM
http://collegestation.craigslist.org/cto/1164135157.html

Runs and drives, you should have bought it.

..!

Hot Pocket
05-18-2009, 03:40 PM
One day I will have a thread in here that doesn't get moved or lasts more than a day... :flipoff2:

Sharpe
05-18-2009, 03:49 PM
Karl you're a genius! Use a spreadsheet to predict and track costs!?! I feel like this could really help the construction industry! I might try to integrate a couple of spreadsheets into my daily work....hell i might even replace this abacus with one of them calculators!

Then after that you could get a trail rig!! Just imagine! :flipoff2:

jerryg79
05-18-2009, 03:51 PM
Then after that you could get a trail rig!! Just imagine! :flipoff2:

That insult is as tired and clapped out as this jeep!:flipoff2:

FJAggie07
05-18-2009, 04:26 PM
That insult is as tired and clapped out as this jeep!:flipoff2:

yeah about that.... Nope still funny. :gigem:

uglyota
05-18-2009, 05:47 PM
Lastly... I know I'm biting off a lot more than I can chew here, and I would appreciate as little bull**** as possible about it. I know that a lot of you here know your ****, so all I'm asking is that you refrain from clogging up the thread with **** about how I have no idea what I'm doing, and just keep it to suggestions and information that I can actually use and learn from.. Or at least until I can get my bearings under me. It's been established that I'm in over my head, but I've gotta start somewhere.


did this even last 24 hours?
I want the license plate ring and exclusive rights to call a future rig "The Quief"
And Doug's retarded. Get yourself a set of Craftsman tools.

Doug Krebs
05-18-2009, 06:46 PM
Get yourself a set of Craftsman tools.

Have you replaced a stamped craftsmen socket recently? They give you this laser etched **** that eventually wears off. Then you take it back and they ask you how do they know it's a craftsmen...

Prove me wrong, but I bet craftsmen is made in china...

Eckert
05-18-2009, 07:16 PM
HF has a lifetime warranty on hand tools.

Seth
05-18-2009, 07:29 PM
Bought and sold before I see the thread! Buy that yellow one and make friends with Kasey.

jerryg79
05-18-2009, 08:20 PM
Have you replaced a stamped craftsmen socket recently? They give you this laser etched **** that eventually wears off. Then you take it back and they ask you how do they know it's a craftsmen...

Prove me wrong, but I bet craftsmen is made in china...

from here: http://www.stillmadeinusa.com/tools.html#handtools

Craftsman brand hand tools, made in USA by Danaher Tool Group. (Craftsman power tools are imported). Available from SEARS and KMart.

I used to carry a cheap walmart tool set in my truck, just to have, i have since added it to my craftsman stuff. While I was taking off those caliper brakets I broke every walmart reducer and extension i had, but the craftsman stuff held up.

Do they automatically give you the laser-etched one or is it just what they got behind the counter? I broke a 3/8's ratchet the same day i'll have to see what they give me when i return it.

Doug Krebs
05-18-2009, 09:08 PM
Do they automatically give you the laser-etched one or is it just what they got behind the counter? I broke a 3/8's ratchet the same day i'll have to see what they give me when i return it.

Well that's good they are still made in the US.

As far as I know, the only thing you can get is laser etched, but I'm hope I'm wrong. Someday I'd like to spend some money on hand tools and will probably buy craftsman.

All I was really trying to do was help him out since he didn't have much money and needed tools. In addition, we haven't had any problems with the harbor freight hand tools.

Reckless
05-18-2009, 09:43 PM
if you look, you can still get them in the stamped numbers

Hot Pocket
05-18-2009, 11:39 PM
Damn Hijackers! :flipoff2:

DRAGOONRANCH
05-18-2009, 11:44 PM
a true and proper snaking it is. :D

BMFScout
05-19-2009, 12:27 AM
I CAN make a difference in people's lives! :) Make sure if you make money on the deal to rub it in Frick's face! :gigem:

uglyota
05-19-2009, 09:07 AM
I've heard that HF's hand tools have a lifetime warranty but is it as easy as Craftsman? Have you walked into HF with a busted screwdriver and had them hand you another like you do at Sears? I also prefer the old-school style of crapsman sockets but have not had any of my laser-etched ones totally wear off to the point that you can't read it with a little grease stuck to the etching

TexTJ209
05-19-2009, 09:38 AM
I've heard that HF's hand tools have a lifetime warranty but is it as easy as Craftsman? Have you walked into HF with a busted screwdriver and had them hand you another like you do at Sears? I also prefer the old-school style of crapsman sockets but have not had any of my laser-etched ones totally wear off to the point that you can't read it with a little grease stuck to the etching



Sears is in the mall. So from an incredibly lazy point of view...HF is better. :gigem:

I just buy Craftsman off of eBay, and when it breaks try and get them to replace it.

FJAggie07
05-19-2009, 09:40 AM
I've heard that HF's hand tools have a lifetime warranty but is it as easy as Craftsman? Have you walked into HF with a busted screwdriver and had them hand you another like you do at Sears? I also prefer the old-school style of crapsman sockets but have not had any of my laser-etched ones totally wear off to the point that you can't read it with a little grease stuck to the etching

That is the key right there. I was reorganizing the garage last night and realized my 12 MM socket could barely be read (laser etched) but my 11 had a greasy finger print across the etching and it was VERY easy to read. I will have to keep the Gojo away from my 3/8" drive drawer... :)

TMatheaus
05-19-2009, 10:00 AM
i just got a new craftsman set, and none of them are the etched crap

uglyota
05-19-2009, 10:04 AM
Yep, never EVER clean your tools. If you find yourself with a perfectly organized, matched, and immaculate set of tools you obviously need another project :D

JB
05-19-2009, 03:59 PM
hmmmm....


http://collegestation.craigslist.org/pts/1178031852.html

JB
05-19-2009, 04:13 PM
hmmm

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Date of Birth:
September 26, 1990
Age:
18
Full Name:
Ryan Stephens
FTA Class of:
2012
Local Phone Number:
713-470-7658
Location:
Bryan TX
Rig:
'08 Dodge Ram 5.7

TexTJ209
05-19-2009, 04:20 PM
...hmmm?

Doug Krebs
05-19-2009, 04:22 PM
I wouldn't put "strong running" motor unless you've confirmed that.

Eckert
05-19-2009, 04:39 PM
I wouldn't put "strong running" motor unless you've confirmed that.

bingo

uglyota
05-19-2009, 04:53 PM
Even frick's ad says "360 v-8 with 4 barrel edelbrock carb, guy i bought it from said it ran pretty good but might need the carb rebuilt, unknown mileage"
Dude, don't be a sheisty motherf4cker, even if it is craigslist

BroncoJo
05-19-2009, 05:30 PM
bingo

your giving craigs list advice?? :laughing::laughing:

8Runner
05-19-2009, 05:44 PM
I have laughed harder at this thread than that will ferrell Jeopardy video someone just posted - and I laughed so hard at that one I woke the baby up.

p.s. I am only on page 3, will post when I finish if my sides have not exploded.

8Runner
05-19-2009, 05:56 PM
Damn, so page 3 was the last "good" page. I was all ready to respond to Jimmy's advice post that referenced me.

FWIW, I was going to recommend you consider giving it up, UNLESS you were really interested in learning how to work on your own truck and improve your mechanical skills. I thought I was when I bought the 4runner, then decided I just didn't have the interest or mechanical aptitude to do most of the involved stuff.

I really think you should look for a ready to go, or close to ready to go rig. A sammi or jeep would be good starters and they can be had trail ready for pretty damn cheap. Then you can learn how to wrench (or learn you don't want to learn) while upgrading it.

Hot Pocket
05-19-2009, 06:30 PM
some ****tard named "big mike" came to look at it today and tried to convince me it's not a cherokee

Hot Pocket
05-19-2009, 06:47 PM
FWIW, I was going to recommend you consider giving it up, UNLESS you were really interested in learning how to work on your own truck and improve your mechanical skills. I thought I was when I bought the 4runner, then decided I just didn't have the interest or mechanical aptitude to do most of the involved stuff.

Thanks for the support! Of all the people in the club, you'd have been the last one I'd expect that from.

TexTJ209
05-19-2009, 06:50 PM
some ****tard named "big mike" came to look at it today and tried to convince me it's not a cherokee

What was he trying to convince you it was?

Hot Pocket
05-19-2009, 07:21 PM
What was he trying to convince you it was?

I'm really not sure... but he seemed adamant about the fact that it wasn't a cherokee... It surprised me because he showed up in an early 90's XJ

He then continued to leave my complex as his Jeep stalled out :laughing:

EDIT-- sent you those pics

TexTJ209
05-19-2009, 07:30 PM
I'm really not sure... but he seemed adamant about the fact that it wasn't a cherokee... It surprised me because he showed up in an early 90's XJ

He then continued to leave my complex as his Jeep stalled out :laughing:

EDIT-- sent you those pics


Haha...you could've just showed him the fact it says CHEROKEE right above the rear license plate.

But that's one of the fun FSJ quirks...other than Wagoneers, not many people know wtf the others are.

Eckert
05-19-2009, 07:39 PM
your giving craigs list advice?? :laughing::laughing:

the irony:flipoff2:

texasxj
06-01-2009, 11:40 AM
Do you still have it? If so I would like to make a deal with you for the front axle and rear springs.

Hot Pocket
06-01-2009, 01:12 PM
Do you still have it? If so I would like to make a deal with you for the front axle and rear springs.

I still have parts of it. The axles are pending a sale. I'll let you know.

colman
06-01-2009, 01:59 PM
the axle is the wrong drop anyway for you clayton

FJAggie07
06-01-2009, 03:23 PM
Hey hot pocket buy this.

http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/pts/1199254215.html

85cj7
06-01-2009, 03:33 PM
I've been looking at that one for a while.

Good deal on a fully restored one, but really bad deal on a running one. They go all day for $1000 or less in ****ty shape. But like I said for one where they one thing you have to turn is the key, thats a good price.

texasxj
06-01-2009, 07:48 PM
the axle is the wrong drop anyway for you clayton

I know, just good to have around.

Hot Pocket
06-01-2009, 09:05 PM
So eventually, I'd like to get a Scout, not to wheel, but to restore would be kind of cool.

KrazyKarl02
06-01-2009, 10:07 PM
So eventually, I'd like to get a Scout, not to wheel, but to restore would be kind of cool.

Oh well just PM one of the Brune Brothers. They will be happy to help you with Scout info. Their screen names are BMFScout and Fredo

colman
06-01-2009, 10:23 PM
I know, just good to have around.

that sounds like my logic

Seth
06-01-2009, 10:58 PM
So eventually, I'd like to get a Scout, not to wheel, but to restore would be kind of cool.

No.

Reckless
06-01-2009, 11:19 PM
So eventually, I'd like to get a Scout, not to wheel, but to restore would be kind of cool.

I think i heard jimmy and fred jump off of a cliff

DRAGOONRANCH
06-02-2009, 12:57 AM
No.


I think i heard jimmy and fred jump off of a cliff

There is one on Hwy 53 going to Temple that I bet could be had a a pretty good price. Jimmy knows of which I speak...

Hot Pocket
06-05-2009, 11:21 PM
Anyone else want Jeep parts? We had some fun with the sawzall today.

Rowdy- Let me know on that transmission

colman
06-06-2009, 03:12 AM
i could maybe use the front springs, call me after berry buys the axles

Hot Pocket
06-06-2009, 10:46 AM
i could maybe use the front springs, call me after berry buys the axles

See if you can work something out with him. As the deal stands, he's towing away the frame, body, axles, springs, and whatever else I don't pull from it..

Reckless
06-07-2009, 07:51 PM
yea ill come get the trans within the week or so

Hot Pocket
07-08-2009, 05:15 PM
Progress. Pulling the mota today/tomorrow.

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1408/img0129gys.jpg
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/2386/img0130jmc.jpg
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1547/img0131e.jpg
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/3415/img0132a.jpg
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/3585/img0133zmk.jpg
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9066/img0136toj.jpg

stx4wheeler
07-10-2009, 06:15 PM
you gonna pull the booster/master and prop valve for me?

AggieTJ2007
07-10-2009, 09:02 PM
no

Hot Pocket
07-10-2009, 09:59 PM
you gonna pull the booster/master and prop valve for me?

I'll have it out by this weekend, we pulled the mota today.

colman
07-10-2009, 10:35 PM
so hwo many fsj's has this club killed, i have killed 4 personally, frick has one that is dead etc

TexTJ209
07-10-2009, 10:37 PM
Mine all live on. You're all murderers!


But seriously...more parts for me :D

Hot Pocket
07-11-2009, 08:04 AM
They're cheap little bastards!

Thanks Sharpe for helpin me with the mota, and Clarke for lettin me borrow the hoist... I'll bring it over today after work.

Pictures-

Going to pull the Master cylinder/ Prop valve today since Frick had asked for it. Any ideas on how to get a title on the cheap for this thing? I want to scrap the body, but Sharpe was saying I'd need a title to do that, and I don't want to sawzall this thing for a couple hours trying to cut it into pieces.

OR... anybody want to take delivery of the body/frame for free (or know someone who does)? It's pretty straight.

Once I find something to do with the body, I've got the axles, steering, and springs to pull and I'm done.

Hot Pocket
07-11-2009, 08:09 AM
Good places to list stuff??

-IFSJA
-Craigslist
-Texas 4x4
-Pirate

Anywhere else?

eight
07-11-2009, 08:20 AM
I could use the AC compressor mounting brackets.

85cj7
07-11-2009, 08:47 AM
Good places to list stuff??

-IFSJA
-Craigslist
-Texas 4x4
-Pirate

Anywhere else?

jeepsunlimited
lonestarjeepclub

Hot Pocket
07-11-2009, 09:20 AM
I could use the AC compressor mounting brackets.

Trying to keep the engine together with the york since I can't really guarantee its condition

Hot Pocket
07-11-2009, 09:20 AM
jeepsunlimited
lonestarjeepclub

Thanks Ryan! :)

stx4wheeler
07-11-2009, 12:58 PM
i might know a guy that would want the body

Hot Pocket
07-11-2009, 01:00 PM
i might know a guy that would want the body

Give him my number, tell him to bring a trailer and see if it's okay with him if I pull the axles and steering on it before he leaves.

stx4wheeler
07-11-2009, 01:02 PM
just talked to him and he didnt want it

colman
07-11-2009, 01:19 PM
kopecki i have a bracket for a v8 laying ar ound

DRAGOONRANCH
07-11-2009, 02:06 PM
Give him my number, tell him I'll be happy to work something out with him...

;)


:flipoff2:

Hot Pocket
07-11-2009, 04:48 PM
Damnit Ed!
That's not what I said!

:flipoff2: