Looking for a Diesel

[TdmayfieldIV]

I need a truck to take the daily driving duties from the bronco. I don't want a little car or a small truck. I want a diesel with a manual trans and 4x4. I have a budget of $6000-$10000. I have been looking at the 7.3L powerstroke and i think thats what i want to get. I know the cummins is a good motor but it is in a horrible truck (for the years that are in my price range).

what are your suggestions?

[BroncoJo]

sounds like you have already made up your mind.


I had a 99 powerstroke with the 6 speed and really enjoyed the truck, ended up selling it the last summer for 10k.
http://tamor.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9757

[TdmayfieldIV]

I know what i want but i don't know if it is a good choice. Was just checking around to see if anyone had any opinions.

[BroncoJo]

I like the 99-03 7.3's. the thread I posted was of my 99, i suggest readding through it.

I.E. I thought I could get 18 mpg but the best I ever got was 15.5 (IIRC).

[KrazyKarl02]

I had a 99 power stroke, good engine, decent trans. Pulled great, I now have a duramax. The duramax is a better truck for the following reasons:

1) Much quieter
2) rides much better

That being said I would buy an F-250 again, it is just loud and can sometimes make funny noises.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

it is just loud and can sometimes make funny noises.

That's what she said...

[Eckert]

I know the cummins is a good motor but it is in a horrible truck (for the years that are in my price range).

your language is offensive.

if anything i think a 98.5-2002 24v is the ****tiest design of all cummins motors. lift and injection pumps suck ass.

i personally find nothing wrong with a 94-02 dodge, but like already said, you sound biased in your findings and already know what you want.

[Cajun]

Buy my Excursion (http://tamor.org/forums/showthread.php?t=11438). PM me, let's talk.

[StevenAg03]

your language is offensive.

if anything i think a 98.5-2002 24v is the ****tiest design of all cummins motors. lift and injection pumps suck ass.

i personally find nothing wrong with a 94-02 dodge, but like already said, you sound biased in your findings and already know what you want.

The only real thing i dislike about mine, actually i fooking HATE it, is the raging piece of **** dash that is cracked all to hell...

[jerryg79]

Buy my Excursion (http://tamor.org/forums/showthread.php?t=11438). PM me, let's talk.

Do it!

[JB]

I have an opinion.

[Seth]

wolverton, i feel your pain. we did a few of those at trn and they suck.

andy, you never posted pics. i was thinking the other day how badass excursions are.

[J Cooper]

did you know they still make excurisions?

i thought they scrapped them, but i sure did see 2 of them cruising down 290 with all badges and lettering on them... and paper plates

they were pretty pimp


EDIT:
i am sure it was a company like this that made them
http://www.customautosbytim.com/13.html

[eight]

I'll sell an old dodge if you change your mind. Has cracked dash, blow out damage to bed, and 200K miles, but it's in your price range.

[JB]

did you know they still make excurisions?

i thought they scrapped them, but i sure did see 2 of them cruising down 290 with all badges and lettering on them... and paper plates

they were pretty pimp


EDIT:
i am sure it was a company like this that made them
http://www.customautosbytim.com/13.html

wow, those are sexy

[Jackasic]

8.1, Solves all problems, including money saved over buying a diesel ;) I am always amazed how much more diesels are to comprable trucks. Paid 11.700 for my 04 crew cab dually with an 8.1. Diesel would be 5K more.

[Jackasic]

Btw, I jones for the murdered out excusion on 20's you see around town.

[jerryg79]

8.1, Solves all problems, including money saved over buying a diesel ;) I am always amazed how much more diesels are to comprable trucks. Paid 11.700 for my 04 crew cab dually with an 8.1. Diesel would be 5K more.

what does that thing get on the highway? 11? 12?

[TdmayfieldIV]

After reading that entire dually thread it made me wonder

1. How did it run with 200k before the upgrades?

2. What's the most cost efficient way to get safe power?

3. Is a powerstroke a good choice for a dd? It seems like you had to dump a bunch of money into things like clutches etc.

4. How expensive are parts compared to my bronco.

[KrazyKarl02]

I bought my F-250 with 100k on it, I sold it with 265k. I daily drove it for like 4 years. I never installed a single "performance part" on it. The heaviest thing I towed was a 4k goose neck with a 6k load (10k), It would do 95+ mph with this 10k load.

At 150k, the throw out bearing on the clutch went out. I put a new clutch and flywheel in it. Travis put some super spank off clutch in his and it f' up. I put the LUK stock like clutch and never had an issue.

Parts, it does not matter if it is Ford, Dodge, or Chevy, if it is a 3/4 or 1 ton parts cost more. Example, my '96 Bronco, I could do a complete clutch job for under $500, my F-250 the parts are closer to $800. The unit bearings on the front axle are like $500 a set.

[uglyota]

Having a hard time understanding why you want a 3/4 or 1-ton diesel truck to take over daily driving duties from your trail rig. Is your trail rig street legal? Relatively reliable? What does your daily drive entail? Hauling heavy machinery? Car payments suck. Driving a beat-ass 4x4 to school kicks ass. Buying a big ass truck so you can be more comfortable driving from bryan to campus every day with the occasional trip to Houston (or wherever your parents live) is retarded. Snip a couple branches off that money tree and fix whatever's wrong with your wheeling rig and you will be much better off in the end.

[KrazyKarl02]

That being said about F-250's, mine always had a little oil leak.

Clarke has one too, and has similar oil leak issues.

[jerryg79]

Like karl said, he had a '99 and put that truck through every kind of hell there is, and it kept coming back for more. Even all bashed up and wore the fork out at 200k+ miles, it still would push you back in the seat if you let it wind up.

I dont prefer the interiors on those trucks or the dodges of that era either for that matter. I could live with the crew cab but the ext cab on karl's 99 was a step away from a jump seat.

I would pimp a powerstroke, i think you'll have trouble finding one with low enough miles below $10k.

As long as you dont try to rice it out, it will be reliable. Karl's was bone stock and pulled one rig just fine and im quite sure it could pull more weight fine.

Travis riced the fork out of his, i bet that's most of his problems (im not going to back to read his whole thread)

Parts for diesels arent cheap like 78 bronco parts will be.

[TdmayfieldIV]

Yeah, my parents will be moving to germany this summer and they want me to have a car that I won't have to work on every weekend. My bronco is in no way reliabe, in fact I will be pulling the motor out as soon as I get back from colorado.

[TdmayfieldIV]

Double post

[eight]

They run fine with 200K, unless they're worn out. My dad's got one with 230 that's good, my little brother had one with 140 that had enough blow by to blow out the dipstick. Take the oil fill cap off with the engine running, if there's a shocking amount of blow-by coming out, don't buy it.

Just put a 60-80hp tune on it. Seems much more and the clutch will slip.

Gonna be just as good DD as anything else of similar age.

Anything to do with the engine or drivetrain will be much more expensive. Figure 4x for engine, 2x for drivetrain.

[TdmayfieldIV]

Before I replaced the 2nd motor in my bronco it was spraying oil out of the dipstick and it had so much crank pressure it crushed ny valley pan

[uglyota]

is your bronco a trailer queen?

[TdmayfieldIV]

Nope I drive it every day

[JB]

Having a hard time understanding why you want a 3/4 or 1-ton diesel truck to take over daily driving duties from your trail rig. Is your trail rig street legal? Relatively reliable? What does your daily drive entail? Hauling heavy machinery?

Keep logic out of this decision

[uglyota]

Nope I drive it every day

Ah I see. Yeah you definitely need a 3/4 ton truck then :rolleyes:

Howabout take that 10k budget and buy a pimp ass crate motor and put the rest in the bank to pay for repairs as needed. Because that will put you in a much more reliable rig than any smokemachine you're gonna pick up within your budget. Unless you buy Andy's, of course. :)

[J Cooper]

Ah I see. Yeah you definitely need a 3/4 ton truck then :rolleyes:

Howabout take that 10k budget and buy a pimp ass crate motor and put the rest in the bank to pay for repairs as needed. Because that will put you in a much more reliable rig than any smokemachine you're gonna pick up within your budget. Unless you buy Andy's, of course. :)

agreed, unless you are looking for a vehicle to tow your bronco around. just pimp out the bronco for like ~$5-7K
or if you just want a nice daily driver w/o the need of a tow rig, just buy a car or a tacoma or something. cheap/easy to drive.

i rode a bike to school :gigem:

[Shaggy]

Travis riced the fork out of his, i bet that's most of his problems (im not going to back to read his whole thread)




putting a 80 hp "econo" setting on a 7.3 is ricing it?

[Eckert]

yeah, screw 3/4 ton diesels. they are worthless!

dump 6k into a bronco that will never ever be worth that. that would be the smart thing to do.

If i wasnt rebuilding my '03 from my ****-up. id be looking for a clean 91-93 dodge cummins to buy. super clean ones can be had for around 5k. motors rarely have anything go wrong with them. leave it stock and get 20mpg. good solid truck. i love the 'ugly' body style. but alot of people hate it.i know several people who have over 300k on these era dodge's. greg from 4wd factory comes to mind, he drives his dually non stop.

my dads power joke started falling apart around 220-230k. expensive repairs just werent worth the cost.

[Sharpe]

First gen Dodge's looks tits and you cant beat the drivetrain but jesus a more uncomfortable to drive truck has never been made.

[BroncoJo]

putting a 80 hp "econo" setting on a 7.3 is ricing it?

thank you :gigem:, Andy's excursion is more "riced" than mine was.


just as Karl did I drove the hell out of it, and never had any serious problems besides the clutch. The valair clutch was a flaming piece of **** and the second one they sent me would not even bolt to the flywheel, which they also sent.

[Eckert]

thank you :gigem:, Andy's excursion is more "riced" than mine was.


just as Karl did I drove the hell out of it, and never had any serious problems besides the clutch. The valair clutch was a flaming piece of **** and the second one they sent me would not even bolt to the flywheel, which they also sent.

Ford is gay and the harness for the injectors is built into the valve covers gaskets. i knew you had problams with that.

he is driving a 79 ford bronco. i am currently driving a 79 f350. believe me, a 1st gen dodge would be a helluva step up.

[BroncoJo]

Ford is gay and the harness for the injectors is built into the valve covers gaskets. i knew you had problams with that.


I don't know what the deal was with that, remember it worked fine for you but would not allow me to get out of first gear. but that was a easy < 1 hour fix.

[Jackasic]

I drove a sub 1k beater in college and was happy. I am with coop, get a bike.

Why does every college kind need two rides? just buy a 2K acord and put the rest in stock, you will be better off.

or buy a 2k honda and a 3K used gasser pickup from the early 90's.

or just the truck.

or just take the 10k, invest it, and drive your bronco.

My old Scout drove all over the USA and still found some trail time. I am amazed the "hard" decision people have, I am chuckling along with hippy and JB.

[Hot Pocket]

You could finance a cheap car and spend the rest of your moolahs on gettin the bronco up to par


If you're secure enough to drive a car...

[FJAggie07]

I didn't drive a beater in college but I did drive a 5 year old Tundra and couldn't even think about another vehicle, I had a hard enough time making the rent and beer money every month. Saved up enough money to sell my tundra and finance a small portion of the FJ Cruiser and had a wheeler and daily driver for the next three years. I also do not understand having multiple vehicles in college, when one can not afford it.

[StevenAg03]

You could finance a cheap car and spend the rest of your moolahs on gettin the bronco up to par


If you're secure enough to drive a car...




I didn't drive a beater in college but I did drive a 5 year old Tundra and couldn't even think about another vehicle, I had a hard enough time making the rent and beer money every month. Saved up enough money to sell my tundra and finance a small portion of the FJ Cruiser and had a wheeler and daily driver for the next three years. I also do not understand having multiple vehicles in college, when one can not afford it.

:laughing::laughing: definatly the last two people i would expect sound vehicle advice from... :flipoff2: :laughing::laughing:

[TdmayfieldIV]

Uh,
1. My parents are paying for it.

2. Since my bronco will no longer be insured I will need a truck capable of towing it.

3. I want a diesel because I like them and I don't want a little ******* truck

[FJAggie07]

:laughing::laughing: definatly the last two people i would expect sound vehicle advice from... :flipoff2: :laughing::laughing:

Why?

[Eckert]

Uh,
1. My parents are paying for it.

2. Since my bronco will no longer be insured I will need a truck capable of towing it.

3. I want a diesel because I like them and I don't want a little ******* truck

besides the diesel nay-sayers. what have you decided on?

and insurance is like $35 a month. keep it.

[KrazyKarl02]

I think you already have your mind made up, and I have been boosting the reliability of the 7.3, but I will say this, The half ton Chevy has come a long as way. The computer controlled 4L60E or 4L80E is leaps and boundes better for towing than the 700R4's. Plus the 5.3L has good power. I think for towing one rig it is fine, as long as you do not lay into it too bad.

[TdmayfieldIV]

I was thinking something like this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/F250-XL-REGULAR-CAB-LONG-BED-6-0L-DIESEL-5SPD-4X4-TX_W0QQitemZ250554146153QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars _Trucks?hash=item3a5630dd69#ht_4591wt_1165

[Eckert]

I was thinking something like this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/F250-XL-REGULAR-CAB-LONG-BED-6-0L-DIESEL-5SPD-4X4-TX_W0QQitemZ250554146153QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars _Trucks?hash=item3a5630dd69#ht_4591wt_1165

you couldnt give me that truck.

if it was a 7.3 and had P/W and P/L i would say hell yes.

[TdmayfieldIV]

i know, i forgot to say change the 6.0 to 7.3

oh and if i offered you that truck for free you would take it:flipoff2:

[TdmayfieldIV]

oh and this is awesome http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO-MI4GC5XI

[eight]

Supposedly all 2 of the 6.0 problems can be solved for $3200.

[StevenAg03]

I was thinking something like this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/F250-XL-REGULAR-CAB-LONG-BED-6-0L-DIESEL-5SPD-4X4-TX_W0QQitemZ250554146153QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars _Trucks?hash=item3a5630dd69#ht_4591wt_1165

my thoughts on EBAY: they can do a lot of stuff to make the vehicle look good on their. i found a nice looking 2001 quad cab dodge nearly identical to mine on EBAY the weekend before i bought mine. i car faxed it and that came back good and the pictures made the truck look good. The pictures and the descriptions didnt exactly match (different tires and running boards then description). i attributed it to the arabs not knowing what they were talking about. when i went to go look at it, the mileage was way off, 30k. started asking and figured out the description on the truck i test drove, including the VIN, was for another truck they had. that other truck also happened to be on ebay with the same description and the correct pictures. before i left, they said someone had done the buy it now option so the truck was no longer for sale. i feel for whoever bought that POS.

in my opinion, your best bet is going to be to do it the old fashion way by looking in truck trader and looking at dealerships. not the ****ty dealerships, but normal ones like a ford/dodge/chevy house. if you do find one on ebay, or the like, i would not buy it without seeing/driving it first. the used car lots do tricky **** to make them look good. On that ford you posted, i guarantee you that they put the bed liner in there. no one installs a gooseneck hitch without provisions for saftey chains. now a beat up bed may not be a big deal, but it proves they are trying to hide ****.

if you want a diesel, get one. buy what YOU want since YOU will be driving it everyday. i see nothing wrong with daily driving one to school, though i may be a bit biased. i know if i could have had the truck i have now while in college, i would have.

[StevenAg03]

Why?

you keep your vehicles about as long as i keep a pair of socks.... :gigem:

[FJAggie07]

you keep your vehicles about as long as i keep a pair of socks.... :gigem:

meh... Well when I was in school I kept them around. :D

[StevenAg03]

meh... Well when I was in school I kept them around. :D

i kept socks longer when i was in school too... :gigem:

[tigweld]

03-04 6.0's are the ones to stay away from . really the only thing a 6.0 needs to be reliable is an egr delete and a driver that will put some heat to it(variable vain need some higher egt's to continue slide properly

[Hot Pocket]

:laughing::laughing: definatly the last two people i would expect sound vehicle advice from... :flipoff2: :laughing::laughing:

He's right, you know.

The hell with practicality and logic, it's overrated! :flipoff2:

[uglyota]

I have a budget of $6000-$10000.


Yeah, my parents will be moving to germany this summer and they want me to have a car that I won't have to work on every weekend.


Uh,
1. My parents are paying for it.

You will be very very lucky to find a nice, reliable diesel truck for under 10k. That's the reality.

edit: Get Andy's excursion. It also has the poosy magnet installed

[jerryg79]

You will be very very lucky to find a nice, reliable diesel truck for under 10k. That's the reality.

edit: Get Andy's excursion. It also has the poosy magnet installed

both are troof!

Seriously, you're going to buy a cheap diesel off of ebay...this keeps getting better.

[uglyota]

Now print this thread out to show your parents and congratulations on your new honda :flipoff2:

[JB]

All my ant-diesel sentiment aside, I think you would be seriously limiting yourself by making a diesel engine a requirement. 10k is not going to find you a 'nice' diesel truck. I have seen 01-02 4wd 7.3s with 100k+ going for over $20k. That is an 8+ year old truck for what I paid for my 1/2 ton NEW!

I too once thought I needed a diesel, but my Bronco+ trailer only weighs about 8500lbs, so I knew I didn't need one:D You don't need one either, but you want one, which is fine, I just think better trucks can be found in that price range if you take away the diesel part and start looking at 1/2 tons.

I disagree with Hippy on the whole put money into a 78 Bronco and DD/wheel it. I had aspirations for the whole RRDH thing, but turns out it is much more fun to wheel without worrying about the several hundred mile drive home.

Cons:
more expensive up front
more $ to maintain
more $ to repair
more $ to fill up (i think?)

Pros:
circle jerks with Tyler and Travis
you can pull 4 rigs across I70 once a year
copious amounts of smoke
higher resale if you don't rice it out
you can idle all night

Its your decision :flipoff2:

[TdmayfieldIV]

You have to dig through so much **** to get any useful information on this forum

Oh and ill never buy a truck off ebay, it was just an example of an acceptable looking one.

[TdmayfieldIV]

Yeah it makes sense what you are saying, I know I really don't need a diesel I just want one. Ill keep my eyes open for any nice truck in the 10k range.

[uglyota]

You have to dig through so much **** to get any useful information on this forum

price is right, though :)

[tommy53002]

http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/1520410121.html (http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/1520410121.html)
190k on it.... but it is 10k:D

[uglyota]

4x2

[BroncoJo]

I like how every diesel threads turns into a "you don't need a diesel" thread. :D



Anyhow, Have you thought about getting an automatic? Standards in the Fords are not very common and almost always demand a premium. The auto's have a bad name but it's pretty easy to get 100k miles, especially since your only planning on towing a bronco.

Having someone replace the auto: $1500-2000 (done this)
Having someone put in a stock clutch: $800-1200 (estimate)
Having someone put in a southbend clutch: $1800 (quoted this before)

I've been converted to auto's, I spend more time offroad than I do pulling anything and the auto is better suited for this.

[Eckert]

Cons:
more expensive up front
more $ to maintain
more $ to repair
more $ to fill up (i think?)

Pros:
circle jerks with Tyler and Travis
you can pull 4 rigs across I70 once a year
copious amounts of smoke
higher resale if you don't rice it out
you can idle all night

Its your decision :flipoff2:

for all 160k on my truck. i replaced the lift pump for $125. 10k oil change intervals at $70 (including fuel filter). i replaced my front rotors and pads for $215. the rear brakes are still factory. found a decent ceramic clutch for $450, doing the install myself. so maintaining one isnt more expensive in my book. i spent over 2k on my old gas dodge. auto trans was $1800 alone.
meh on the mileage, 18 city, 22 highway. diesel is about 35 cents more a gallon and twice the fun.

i can also pull colmans trailer at 80mph, with 6k on it, get 16mpg. set the cruise and never know its behind me.:p

Im also a firm believer in muffs, so quit putting me in the fag category:flipoff2:



I've been converted to auto's, I spend more time offroad than I do pulling anything and the auto is better suited for this.

cause your a pus'say :flipoff2:

47RE also sucks ass.

[FJAggie07]

Im also a firm believer in muffs, so quit putting me in the fag category:flipoff2:



I heard this was up for debate... :flipoff2:

[Eckert]

I heard this was up for debate... :flipoff2:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/illegaljdm/OrlyBaby.gif

hoping someone would catch that blackflipoff

[BroncoJo]

i replaced my front rotors and pads for $215. the rear brakes are still factory.

That is up for debate :flipoff2:

2wd's also suck ass :p



Also Walmart will change your oil and vacuum your cab for $55.

[Seth]

for all 160k on my truck. i replaced the lift pump for $125. 10k oil change intervals at $70 (including fuel filter). i replaced my front rotors and pads for $215. the rear brakes are still factory. found a decent ceramic clutch for $450, doing the install myself. so maintaining one isnt more expensive in my book. i spent over 2k on my old gas dodge. auto trans was $1800 alone.
meh on the mileage, 18 city, 22 highway. diesel is about 35 cents more a gallon and twice the fun.

i can also pull colmans trailer at 80mph, with 6k on it, get 16mpg. set the cruise and never know its behind me.

seems close, but optimistic. maybe with bargain bin parts and fluids. also, 10k is a while to go without at least a filter change and oil sample.

[Jackasic]

john brown, your my hero :D

[StevenAg03]

seems close, but optimistic. maybe with bargain bin parts and fluids. also, 10k is a while to go without at least a filter change and oil sample.

I use Rotella T and its not more then $15/gallon (3 gallons). Oil filter ~$10.00. Fuel Filter ~$15.00. That is $70... i dont think his $70 is out of line and they arent crappy parts. also, i regularly go 10k between oil changes. the owners manual specifies that interval so long as the conditions arent dirty....

[Eckert]

I use Rotella T and its not more then $15/gallon (3 gallons). Oil filter ~$10.00. Fuel Filter ~$15.00. That is $70... i dont think his $70 is out of line and they arent crappy parts. also, i regularly go 10k between oil changes. the owners manual specifies that interval so long as the conditions arent dirty....

bingo. How come a medium duty truck with a 5.9L can get its ass worked off and changed every 10k. yet my dodge hauling my ass around cant do the same? that also goes for a DT444E as well.

18 around b/cs is about what i get. ive never gotten less than 17 unless im pulling a trailer.

the lift pumps for a 555 series cummins were discontinued. they arent the same as a 24v or a 600 series. i wasnt going to drop $400 on a in tank or aftermarket and found one online for $125. i got lucky.

[stx4wheeler]

John brown what number transmission are you on with your f-150? I thought you were worried about your trans again on the way to Clayton? Towing a lifted and modified bronco with a half ton is not a good idea. His bronco weighs about 5300 stock plus add ons. Let's say another 1500 for a trailer and you are most likey exceeding the gwvr for most half tons he could afford.

If his parents want to buy him a nicer truck more power to him. Most people in this club have tow rigs or have someone with a tow rig trailer their rig for them. Karl got a really nice truck for a really good price. I'm sure he can find a good deal once he knows what he wants and realizes it will take some time to find. I'm quite sure you can get a good truck for 10k.

Good luck finding your truck man.

[JB]

John brown what number transmission are you on with your f-150? I thought you were worried about your trans again on the way to Clayton? Towing a lifted and modified bronco with a half ton is not a good idea. His bronco weighs about 5300 stock plus add ons. Let's say another 1500 for a trailer and you are most likey exceeding the gwvr for most half tons he could afford.

If his parents want to buy him a nicer truck more power to him. Most people in this club have tow rigs or have someone with a tow rig trailer their rig for them. Karl got a really nice truck for a really good price. I'm sure he can find a good deal once he knows what he wants and realizes it will take some time to find. I'm quite sure you can get a good truck for 10k.

Good luck finding your truck man.

My first trans failure was due to a reverse burnout. Dumb. My 2nd trans is being fixed right now due to being driven 120+ miles a day for the past 2.5 years and having 160k miles on it. You are dumb if you think these newer trucks can't pull 8k. I have maintained it otherwise and it has been a better truck than I ever imagined.

My Bronco weighs more than that, my trailer weighs more than that, and I pull anywhere from 65-75mph. Jackasses that pull that weight faster are ****ing dumb.

So you think he should buy a ragged out 10k diesel vs. a nicer gasser for the same $. Dumb.

[BroncoJo]

For as long as your not buying outside of your means, I think it would be dumb not to get what you want. I'm not saying you shouldn't consider a gasser though.


The maintenance on a newer half ton and a diesel would be a wash, My owners manual from the half ton I had, had very strict and costly service intervals.

[TdmayfieldIV]

To all of you that think i can't get a good diesel truck for my price:

http://www.kbb.com/KBB/UsedCars/PricingReport.aspx?YearId=1996&Mileage=100000&VehicleClass=UsedCar&ManufacturerId=15&ModelId=102&PriceType=Private+Party&VehicleId=9029&SelectionHistory=9029|32138|77845|0|0|332956|true| 332979|true|332970|true|333000|true&Condition=Good&QuizConditions=

http://www.kbb.com/KBB/UsedCars/PricingReport.aspx?YearId=2000&Mileage=100000&VehicleClass=UsedCar&ManufacturerId=15&ModelId=102&PriceType=Private+Party&VehicleId=5986&SelectionHistory=5986|32138|77845|0|0|228421|true| 228463|true|228438|true&Condition=Good&QuizConditions=

I'll never pay over blue book!!

[stx4wheeler]

No I think he should buy whatever 3/4 ton one ton that he finds That is worth a **** regardless of gas or diesel.

I'm not trying to start a who drives more thread but last year I put 45k on my 02 work truck. My company swapped it to in town duty now at 260k. My 09 1500 has almost 17k on it and I got it august 29th. We have had to only replace one tranny on a truck that we run. Most are half tons with one or two 3/4 tons.

Putting tons of money into a 78 bronco in order to make it a wheeler daily driver is Dumb, about the same as taking 5k and flushing it down a toilet because the truck won't be worth crap by the time it has been beaten to death.

I'm sure he is wishing he never started this thread..and I'm getting off this dead horse now. :flipoff2:

[Jackasic]

For as long as your not buying outside of your means, I think it would be dumb not to get what you want. I'm not saying you shouldn't consider a gasser though.

the key is that it isn't his means, it's his parents. basicly he is on college welfare, I doubt that he is paying for much of anything school related (neither here no their, just saying). Do a favor to your parents who are already horking out 10k a year for your education, don't have them go 10k more into debt just because you don't want to daily drive your bronco. Buy something cheap and an invest the other, no need to have your parents support your hobbies. just an old guy rant ;) :flipoff2::beer:

[TdmayfieldIV]

actually my college is paid for by the army. I work for my tuition and i pay for my own books and dry cleaning etc. Believe me, i would rather not be in the corps because its kinda gay. Along with my rotc scholarship i have several other scholarships which make it so my parents only pay a portion of room and board. My dad is a colonel so it is in no way out of his means and he is very smart with his money so I doubt he will pay for the whole thing, i will probably making payments with my stipend from the army every month.

If they move to Germany they will want me to have a car so that i can drive to my aunt and uncle's house in Killeen or my grandma's house in dallas if i need to. My bronco is not reliable at all and i will have no place to work on it myself when they move.

I might not need a diesel, in fact the whole purpose of this thread is to see if a diesel is a good choice for everyday driving.

[Sharpe]

There is always space available in the Dexter Hizzy driveway if you need to work on ****.

[Eckert]

I might not need a diesel, in fact the whole purpose of this thread is to see if a diesel is a good choice for everyday driving.

yes

[Jackasic]

***, it's tamor NO thread stays on subject, that is half the fun ;)

[J Cooper]

Just so everyone knows, I was joking when I said dump a bunch of money into the bronco.

just take your time to find what youreally want. Do not buy from ebay.

Not sure if I would go diesel. Do you need 4x4 if you have the bronco?