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Jackasic
01-08-2010, 11:04 AM
John Brown asked me to post up pics and I never did. Mainly because I can't find my camera. so here is the much ballyhooed thread. I have a couple of plans for it, can't keep it to stock after all.

It took me about 9 months to find what I wanted. If I had wanted white, beige, or red, I could have closed the deal a lot sooner. Ended up finding it in Ft. Lauderdale on Craigs List, made a deal on a Monday, was there by Wednesday. Jet blue sold me a ticker for 89 bucks, what a deal.

Basic specs: 2004 GMC Sierra, SLE (no leather), crew cab, 2wd, dually, 8.1 with an Allison.

I didn't want a diesel or 4wd, those made it harder to find one. The 8.1 has the power of a Duramax (looking to resolve that equality later this year), but the mileage of a 6.0. I can already hear Jerry crying "oh the fuel mileage".

Who cares. Between the cost increase in purchase price and maintenance, it would be 150K miles before I would brake even. As papa Brune famously said, "if I wanted good mileage, I'll a Honda". Heck, if I could make it run on baby seals I would.

This is mainly for work, but I also had another motivation. I bought it to lower it, hence the 2wd. That, and I have no real need for 4wd as this won't leave the pavement.

couple of quick pics:

crappy cell phone pic on Dayton Beach:

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs098.snc3/16552_215707682149_669992149_4159915_7499575_n.jpg

Jerry will love this part:

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs118.snc3/16552_215281812149_669992149_4157685_6642746_n.jpg

the first modification, ordered this before I left to pick it up:

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs098.snc3/16552_217271277149_669992149_4172331_2708324_n.jpg

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs118.snc3/16552_217284732149_669992149_4172418_2681174_n.jpg

the inspiration for where it is headed:

http://www.americanforcewheels.com/imagesnew/applicationthum/low_profile/05chevy22-2.JPG

http://www.americanforcewheels.com/imagesnew/applicationbelow/low_profile/big/05chevy22-4.JPG

http://www.americanforcewheels.com/imagesnew/applicationbelow/low_profile/big/05chevy22.JPG

http://www.chromewheel.com/images/jp2.jpg

http://www.chromewheel.com/images/jp8.jpg

agjohn02
01-08-2010, 11:10 AM
This is mainly for work, but I also had another motivation. I bought it to lower it, hence the 2wd. That, and I have no real need for 4wd as this won't leave the pavement.


http://www.tamor.org/forums/showthread.php?t=11413 :flipoff2:

uglyota
01-08-2010, 11:11 AM
I need some help
My trailer is parked on grass and my 2wd won't retrieve it. I need some to stop by for 5 minutes and pull it on to the drive for me.

Brandon

:flipoff2:

gotta bust your balls a little. I like your new truck. Did you calculate your frool economy to/from clayton towing the scout?

edit Damn you John

BMFScout
01-08-2010, 11:13 AM
http://www.tamor.org/forums/showthread.php?t=11413 :flipoff2:


:flipoff2:

gotta bust your balls a little. I like your new truck. Did you calculate your frool economy to/from clayton towing the scout?

Haha, maybe you guys hate each other because you are too much alike! :)

uglyota
01-08-2010, 11:15 AM
Haha, maybe you guys hate each other because you are too much alike! :)

I was gonna say I must still be drunk this morning...my sh1t's all retarded :D

DRAGOONRANCH
01-08-2010, 11:15 AM
That, and I have no real need for 4wd as this won't leave the pavement.


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jerryg79
01-08-2010, 11:23 AM
so much hostility.

Jackasic
01-08-2010, 11:38 AM
see john, that is what haveing friends will do for you. you should try it sometime ;)

Ed, that sand was as hard as concrete.

Jackasic
01-08-2010, 11:40 AM
gotta bust your balls a little. I like your new truck. Did you calculate your frool economy to/from clayton towing the scout?


according to the computer, it was getting 8. Gets somewhere between 12~14 on the highway unloaded. I like the fact it scoots when i press the skinny peddle.

agjohn02
01-08-2010, 11:45 AM
see john, that is what haveing friends will do for you. you should try it sometime ;)

Ed, that sand was as hard as concrete.


I'm more comfortable being self-reliant. I'm disappointed much less often that way.

agjohn02
01-08-2010, 11:45 AM
according to the computer, it was getting 8. Gets somewhere between 12~14 on the highway unloaded. I like the fact it scoots when i press the skinny peddle.

that's 6.0l fuel mileage alright

uglyota
01-08-2010, 11:51 AM
according to the computer, it was getting 8. Gets somewhere between 12~14 on the highway unloaded. I like the fact it scoots when i press the skinny peddle.

You haven't calculated it the old-fashioned way?

Jackasic
01-08-2010, 11:59 AM
don't really care that much, i am just going to fill it up when it is low. I drive the VW is I am wanting better mileage.

DRAGOONRANCH
01-08-2010, 12:02 PM
see john, that is what haveing friends will do for you. you should try it sometime ;)

Ed, that sand was as hard as concrete.

:laughing:

FJAggie07
01-08-2010, 12:14 PM
according to the computer, it was getting 8. Gets somewhere between 12~14 on the highway unloaded. I like the fact it scoots when i press the skinny peddle.

Thats the exact same mileage that 09 Duramax dually got pulling that trailer to and from Clayton. I wouldn't be too upset with that kind of mileage.

uglyota
01-08-2010, 12:14 PM
don't really care that much, i am just going to fill it up when it is low. I drive the VW is I am wanting better mileage.

while that may be true, it never hurts to know what kind of real-world (read: non-instantaneous) mileage you are getting, if only so you know how many miles you can expect to get out of a tank.

and you did make claims as to fuel efficiency and break even points, after all ;)

Jackasic
01-08-2010, 12:23 PM
***, that is true. It goes about 300 miles on a tank, about what I need to know. I guess i need to record it next time I fill up.

Jackasic
01-08-2010, 12:26 PM
Thats the exact same mileage that 09 Duramax dually got pulling that trailer to and from Clayton. I wouldn't be too upset with that kind of mileage.

at some point it doesn't mater, as long as it isn't get 2MPG, I consider it a win. Saying I went from a 90 Chevy with a TBI 350 that at best would hit 60 while towing, I am happy. I a surprised with the quality of these trucks, I can only imagine how much nicer the new body style is.

KrazyKarl02
01-08-2010, 01:06 PM
This is mainly for work, but I also had another motivation. I bought it to lower it, hence the 2wd. That, and I have no real need for 4wd as this won't leave the pavement.

It is a nice looking truck, and it is your truck, so do what you want with. However I think that lowering a truck you plan to use for work or tow with is just plain "John Cox gay" and there is nothing gayer than that.

agjohn02
01-08-2010, 01:44 PM
It is a nice looking truck, and it is your truck, so do what you want with. However I think that lowering a truck you plan to use for work or tow with is just plain "John Cox gay" and there is nothing gayer than that.

I agree

KrazyKarl02
01-08-2010, 02:12 PM
I agree

What the? Who are you and what did you do with Cox?

Jackasic
01-08-2010, 02:34 PM
by use it for work, I mean drive to a job site every now and again and tow something a few times a year. It will be a trade off, but it is what I like and reason I bought it. Like any modified vehicle, you end up losing the full range of use, but it can be better at some others.

BroncoJo
01-08-2010, 02:39 PM
And how is this better than a comparable diesel? Just a cheaper initial cost? To me it looks like the operating cost would be higher and I doubt it will have as good of resale.

Jackasic
01-08-2010, 03:27 PM
lower purchase price and lower maintenance cost. you pay more in fuel for gas motor, that is where the break even cost comes in. A comparable Duramax would have been +5k more. It also comes down to preference, I enjoy the sound and charicteristics of a gas motor, not everone does. I'm not to worried about resale since I bought it used, the big deprciation hit is gone. Sticker was 40K and I paid 11.7 for it. Not much it can drop that I realy care about after that.

agjohn02
01-08-2010, 04:10 PM
i cant see the pics, but im sure its a nice truck. it was time for a new one. i think the 8.1 decision is a good one. monetarily its a wash in the end. my dad been driving an 8.1 daily for a few years. i think your logic ended there though. a dually to "drive to a job site every now and again and tow something a few times a year" is dumb and getting a 2wd when you are a landscaper and could have gotten a 4wd for a few extra payments is dumb. however, its obvious that you just wanted a slammed dually doink. that is your preferance, as bad as it may be. it could only be better if you got a diesel so you could robbie it out and blow smoke.

BroncoJo
01-08-2010, 06:31 PM
I'm still not sold on the lower maintenance cost, but I do agree you should get what you want.

DRAGOONRANCH
01-08-2010, 11:31 PM
There is a guy on dieselplace who has a super low dually w/ a gooseneck still in the bed. I will try to find a link to that thread later.

I would really have to sit down and do a cost breakdown to see just how much more economical the diesel is. I get ~14-16 driving around town, 10-12 pulling a bumper pull w/ scotti's buggy at about 70, and ~8 now pulling a heavy load (25,000 +). This is with the 07 though, I don't know how an 04 (that doesn't have the VVT)would stack up though. All in all, you bought a nice, clean truck that should have plenty of balls for what you want to do with it. The only time you will regret it is when you are towing with me and I start to walk off on an uphill grade. :D

KrazyKarl02
01-08-2010, 11:32 PM
Just once could we not get into the diesel vs gas spank off?

So what stereo is in it? How many miles are on it?

DRAGOONRANCH
01-08-2010, 11:54 PM
Just once could we not get into the diesel vs gas spank off?


I bet it gets old being the pivot man... :flipoff2:

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3395124#post3395124

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=287545

DRAGOONRANCH
01-08-2010, 11:56 PM
His username on DP is josh2500

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb62/draginjosh/dually1.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb62/draginjosh/dually10.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb62/draginjosh/Picture183.jpg

DRAGOONRANCH
01-08-2010, 11:59 PM
Here it is towing.

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff264/GoingCustom/IMG_2558.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff264/GoingCustom/IMG_2564.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff264/GoingCustom/IMG_2575.jpg

4-Banger
01-09-2010, 12:50 AM
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff264/GoingCustom/IMG_2558.jpg


Somebody need to be punched in the face for that interior.

DRAGOONRANCH
01-09-2010, 01:06 AM
I would have said groin. Tyler, would you agree? :D

TexTJ209
01-09-2010, 01:13 AM
Both face and groin, simultaneously.

Eckert
01-09-2010, 01:25 AM
I would have said groin. Tyler, would you agree? :D

I Concur! just make sure someone else does your dirty work :flipoff2:

Slammed dually's(etc) are pretty sweet. since ive lowered mine i cant run air bags. ive often pondered about 1/4 elliptical(i think thats right) with air bag rear suspension. much like what Paccar has done.

How much do rubber band load range e+ tires cost for 22.5's?! but i guess if you have a truck that sexed up, it doesnt matter.

Sharpe
01-09-2010, 01:49 AM
I would have said groin. Tyler, would you agree? :D

:laughing::gigem:

Just doin as I was told!

DRAGOONRANCH
01-09-2010, 02:13 AM
I Concur! just make sure someone else does your dirty work :flipoff2:

Slammed dually's(etc) are pretty sweet. since ive lowered mine i cant run air bags. ive often pondered about 1/4 elliptical(i think thats right) with air bag rear suspension. much like what Paccar has done.

How much do rubber band load range e+ tires cost for 22.5's?! but i guess if you have a truck that sexed up, it doesnt matter.

I like to keep my hands clean when it comes to wet work. ;)


You can still run bags, you will just have to modify the frame. I prefer to have a plenty of ground clearance in the pasture, so I should have no trouble when I 4 link and bag the rear of mine. :flipoff2:


:laughing::gigem:

Just doin as I was told!

You are by far the best one-man sleeper cell I have. :beer:

Jackasic
01-09-2010, 03:05 AM
it is about 7500 to get a truck to that state, excluding wheels. The end up narrowing the rear 3.5" to get the wheels to tuck. Those wheels are cut down 22.5, so you can run 22" on it. That is a way off for me, just going to shoot for a 5/7 drop at this point.

Jackasic
01-09-2010, 03:21 AM
i cant see the pics, but im sure its a nice truck. i think the 8.1 decision is a good one. monetarily its a wash in the end.

i think your logic ended there though. a dually to "drive to a job site every now and again and tow something a few times a year" is dumb and getting a 2wd when you are a landscaper and could have gotten a 4wd for a few extra payments is dumb.

however, its obvious that you just wanted a slammed dually doink. that is your preferance, as bad as it may be. it could only be better if you got a diesel so you could robbie it out and blow smoke.

The trust white truck was due for a retirement, that is for sure. Cash in hand is better than a new truck sometimes.

Bare in mind, I am not the guy on site everyday anymore, my project manager has a 4x4. To have another would be unnecessary, this truck has a slightly different purpose. Like all decisions, it is a mix of different desires. When we haul something large, it is generally 10k or so. The current fleet is a little over matched for that, but does great for day to day towing of skid steers and random supplies. It is the specialty loads (i.e. pavers, retaining wall blocks, stone, ect.) that we need some extra umpm for. That being said, 95% of that is all on paved surfaces, so 4x4 is mute. Since I paid cash, payment aren't a concern.

I could have just bought a single rear wheel, but part of the decision was that I wanted a lowered dually, hence the 2wd. I know that it isn't for everybody, but it is part of my street rodding roots that I have always jonesed for one. I a willing to have some trade offs to get some other things I want. If I were to by a pure company truck, this probably wouldn't be it.

Karl, it has the Bose set up, but no XM. I am looking into a sub and an iPod hookup. The FM/iPod set up I have is crappy, just needs to be hard wired.

Jackasic
01-09-2010, 03:42 AM
thread for pics

http://www.gmfullsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=130491&highlight=dually

DRAGOONRANCH
01-09-2010, 07:40 AM
Karl, it has the Bose set up, but no XM. I am looking into a sub and an iPod hookup. The FM/iPod set up I have is crappy, just needs to be hard wired.

http://ipodcarparts.com/chevroletgm-lanclass-radio-ipod-interface-with-auxiliary-p-291.html

There is another site, and it's in the forums somewhere but I have to search for it.

EDIT: Found it here. http://www.tamor.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9995&highlight=ipod


The link is busted, but I think this one will get you where you need to be.
http://pac-audio.com/productDetails.aspx?ProductId=37&CategoryID=36

Seth
01-09-2010, 08:53 AM
Well let's see here. Brandon was for sure due for a replacement truck. The white one wasn't more efficient, powerful, comfortable, etc. than the new one. It will def be nice to use the dually to haul bigger loads, like brandon was saying. He spent 12 grand on the truck, which I don't hink would have bought him as nice of a diesel. If you can show me a sub 100k mile crew cab duramax dually thats not a base model, go for it. Fuel is about a wash. The gasser might get ahead when you factor in purchase price and fuel price. So a $12k truck, he got exactly what he wants, and can still buy a reg cab 4x4 if he ends up really needing one. It is a lot of truck for that much money, I know that there are "lesser" trucks, half ton etc, out there that bring that much money or more. I also think the 8.1 is cool strictly for its rarity. There just arent that many of them on the road in regular trucks.

As far as lowering, I think it would look good, my hangup is with wheels and tires. Not sure what size and style I would want. The huge hubs and lugs on the 22.5s (milled or not) look like you are trying to hard. Kinda like a little kid in daddys boots.

bburris
01-09-2010, 10:24 AM
That being said, 95% of that is all on paved surfaces, so 4x4 is mute.

Moot.

DRAGOONRANCH
01-09-2010, 11:28 AM
Moot.

Boot.

Jackasic
01-09-2010, 12:45 PM
zoot

Jackasic
01-09-2010, 12:55 PM
for tunes, I was thinking something like this: http://www.crutchfield.com/p_541ISGM73/Peripheral-iPod-GM-Interface-Kit.html?tp=120

sub: http://signature.crutchfield.com/s_108BASSLIN/Infinity-Basslink.html?search=108basslin&ssi=0&tp=114

or

http://signature.crutchfield.com/s_13694033/JL-Audio-Stealthbox.html?tp=113

Reckless
01-09-2010, 01:29 PM
zoot

SUIT RIOT!

AggieTJ2007
01-30-2010, 08:43 PM
who is it that you were telling me builds the 4 link kit for the truck.

I would like to 4 link and add bags to mine but I would be going up instead of down. Need some ideas to steal and copy from

davido
01-31-2010, 02:04 AM
Some of those trucks are just sic. You have to go all out though Seth. I'd dig having that treatment on the bus. If money were no object...

uglyota
01-31-2010, 09:57 AM
Creighton Brandon says this guy is the mang:
https://www.ekstensive.com/store/index.php?cPath=39&osCsid=ed75231275eaeabbdfb178d1b1e9df1f

AggieTJ2007
01-31-2010, 11:35 AM
looks like a basic 2 link setup w/ a panhard would be super simple to build but i don't know how well that setup would work on a lifted truck

tigweld
01-31-2010, 02:43 PM
you wouldn't need swaybars with that style

AggieTJ2007
01-31-2010, 02:57 PM
true but how well would that type of setup work on a lifted truck

tigweld
02-01-2010, 08:56 AM
not very good. it would make the frame flex bad enough I bet the bed would hit the cab

Seth
02-01-2010, 01:48 PM
Some of those trucks are just sic. You have to go all out though Seth. I'd dig having that treatment on the bus. If money were no object...

??

AggieTJ2007
02-01-2010, 07:19 PM
not very good. it would make the frame flex bad enough I bet the bed would hit the cab

that is kinda what I was thinking 4 link it is then

Jackasic
02-01-2010, 07:49 PM
they do any set up, up to a six link. shoot them and email and see what they can do for you.

AggieTJ2007
02-01-2010, 07:55 PM
hmm i might have to when i have the money, I would rather build it myself, but just for ****s and giggles I shot them an email

DRAGOONRANCH
02-01-2010, 11:35 PM
Let me know what kind of arse raping they want to give you. Inquiring minds want to know.

AggieTJ2007
02-02-2010, 12:01 AM
ill let you know when i get a response, I also asked about bags for the front, I think it would be pretty sweet to have bags all around so I could lift it higher for bashing unplowed roads and what not

BroncoJo
02-02-2010, 12:25 AM
ill let you know when i get a response, I also asked about bags for the front, I think it would be pretty sweet to have bags all around so I could lift it higher for bashing unplowed roads and what not

Next stop big gay truck land:flipoff2:

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg115/BroncoJo/002.jpg

*photo courtesy of hikeschool days

DRAGOONRANCH
02-02-2010, 01:42 AM
BASH IT!!! I don't think that will ever get old, especially when Jerry hollers it out randomly over the campfire! :blackwink:

AggieTJ2007
02-02-2010, 09:27 AM
no not that big just 4 inches like davidos

AggieTJ2007
02-02-2010, 09:29 AM
sorry brandon back to your thread, you wanna run cut down 22.5s w/ 22s on them. are you going to go super single in the rear or stay duals

Jackasic
02-02-2010, 09:31 AM
some day I want to run 22's, would pimp steel 19.5 now but the tires are a bit to commercial for my tastes.

AggieTJ2007
02-02-2010, 09:36 AM
yeah but they wear like iron probably don't ride so well though

Jackasic
02-02-2010, 10:11 AM
the second part is what I am trying to avoid, I like how my 16's ride.

agjohn02
02-02-2010, 10:20 AM
the second part is what I am trying to avoid, I like how my 16's ride.

but retreads fit your personality so well.

agjohn02
02-02-2010, 10:25 AM
??

david is the king of posts that are somewhat on topic yet still unintelligible. it stems from his lack of acknowledgment of the quote button.

for reference:


As far as lowering, I think it would look good, my hangup is with wheels and tires. Not sure what size and style I would want. The huge hubs and lugs on the 22.5s (milled or not) look like you are trying to hard. Kinda like a little kid in daddys boots.