Sloth

[Sparling]

Did he go get them?

[KrazyKarl02]

Is he gonna actually tell me that he backed out of the deal he made for my tires? Doubtful since he has not returned the one I loaned him for free over 6 months ago.

What a good guy.

[TdmayfieldIV]

Sorry, forgot to text you back. I'll bring you your tire whenever you need it.

[Sparling]

Just take all of his valve stems at alto, I'm sure you'll feel better when he finds out his rims are pinching his brand new 44s

[bcolman]

44's should be interesting to watch on this contraption, i see lots of breakage and not alot of fixing in the future for this rig

[TdmayfieldIV]

Just take all of his valve stems at alto, I'm sure you'll feel better when he finds out his rims are pinching his brand new 44s

How about you mind your own god damned business and stop sabotaging every ****ing thing I own.


44's should be interesting to watch on this contraption, i see lots of breakage and not alot of fixing in the future for this rig

**** yourself

[Sparling]

What have I sabotaged? Stop being such an angry little bitch.

[sam_hodnett]

How about you mind your own god damned business and stop sabotaging every ****ing thing I own.



**** yourself

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSrUcKsAPoD9Yoir56DWWnFMqrlzE37V ijyIrjhgsOGI9nw-iL-

[FJAggie07]

Foty Fo's!!!! Can't wait to see 'em.

And I agree with Sam.

[mudtoy67]

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/axles-tires-wheels-sale/1454409-44-tsls.html

stir :laughing:

[Sparling]

Tommy, stop listening to everyone. They give you **** because you respond to it. With your mentality you might as well put 35s on it.

[KrazyKarl02]

So they are 44" boggers? 16.5 rim or 17?

[Sparling]

44" tsl's with like 50 miles on them for a 16.5 rim.

[sam_hodnett]

I think you can pull them off fine tommy! **** the haters!

[TdmayfieldIV]

They're for sale until i mount them.

[Sparling]

Where's the pictures of them mounted?

[TdmayfieldIV]

They're not mounted yet.

[Hellbent]

are they done yet?

[AggieTJ2007]

are they done yet?

beadlocks I assume?

should be pretty sweet. What size are the bald TSL's that were on there?

[JB]

Forty Fours!!!!!

[sam_hodnett]

beadlocks I assume?

should be pretty sweet. What size are the bald TSL's that were on there?

42s

[TdmayfieldIV]

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Only have two mounted. Been cleaning up beads and repainting the ring. Plus it's been raining so....
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[TdmayfieldIV]

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[JB]

Looks good. Trimming the rear? Wish you wouldn't have ****ed it up with spray paint.

[mudtoy67]

Looks good Tommy!


Looks good. Trimming the rear? Wish you wouldn't have ****ed it up with spray paint.

Damn Kids! Rabble! Rabble! Rabble!:laughing:

[Sparling]

You need to:
Trim fenders
Spray paint
lower front/raise rear

Looks good man.

[AggieTJ2007]

did you get some lockers?

[TdmayfieldIV]

Hobart lockers.

[bcolman]

looking good, now all you need is some paint

[KrazyKarl02]

Did you put gears in?

And on paint, don't do spray paint, go buy the $14 Harbor Freight Air Gun and put actual paint on the thing, it will last longer and I think actually be cheaper than a billion cans of spray paint.

[Sparling]

It has 5.13s or something close to that

[colman]

yep, time to paint so all your hard work gets recongized. I agree with the hvlp gun from hf there are two that you will need and they both are cheap. one of theirs sprays primer best and one sprays color best. both cheap. Looking forward to a finished product. one last thing. Pick a normal color not grabber green or something obnoxious.

[Sparling]

Pick a normal color not grabber green or something obnoxious.

Why? It's a bronco on tons with big tires that's been cut in half, not a little toyota commuter car. If there was ever a place to do an off the wall color or drop a pound of metal flake in the paint, this is it.

[BroncoJo]

Gold plating?

[KrazyKarl02]

Now all you need is a doubler, I have what you need....

[TdmayfieldIV]

You have a doubler for sale?

Can I borrow it?:flipoff2:

[KrazyKarl02]

You have a doubler for sale?

Can I borrow it?:flipoff2:

Can I borrow $900?

[DRAGOONRANCH]

:laughing:

[TdmayfieldIV]

need a wench first

[KrazyKarl02]

need a wench first

It has been hard on you since Sam left College Station, but you'll find someone else to share "special time"

[FJAggie07]

It has been hard on you since Sam left College Station, but you'll find someone else to share "special time"

:laughing:

[TdmayfieldIV]

Just bit the bullet and bought a warn vr10,000. I'd rather have a good new winch with a warranty than save a hundred bucks.

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Also mounted up my exclusive Hanma dually d2.

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[BroncoJo]

Are your rock lights spot or flood?

[TdmayfieldIV]

Flood

[zebvance]

Looking good tommy

[Sparling]

You should rig up cooler mounts on top of the battery box so you can reach the cooler from the seats.

[BroncoJo]

You should rig up cooler mounts on top of the battery box so you can reach the cooler from the seats.

Like there would be another cooler mounting option?

[Sparling]

The current cooler set up is behind the battery box and you have to get out and unstrap it to get beverages.

[KrazyKarl02]

How many cup holders does this rig have, what is the cup holder to occupant ratio?

[BroncoJo]

So we cut a bronco in half and put it back together, but can't figure out how to mount a cooler? What a shame...







:flipoff2:

[Sparling]

There's no cup holders either so the whole thing kinda got butchered.

[BroncoJo]

Scrap it

[TdmayfieldIV]

Cup holders pending.......standby. Should be 2 per occupant.

[KrazyKarl02]

Cup holders pending.......standby. Should be 2 per occupant.

Thats a good ratio, just make sure you don't let it fall below 1.5

[Shaggy]

Even my dodge has 4 within the drivers reach. Screw the passengers.

[Sparling]

In Tommy bronco it must be no less than 2 per person so you have spit cup holders as well as beer holders.

[AggieTJ2007]

what you and Tommy don't share spit cups?

[Sparling]

Tommys spit cups are 3 months old and have signs of evolution.

[TdmayfieldIV]

not anymore, I'm quitting.

[Seth]

There are only two options. I dip, or I quit.

[TdmayfieldIV]

Alto was a good shakedown for the bronco, did a couple of good things, and theres a couple things i need to fix.

Good things,
-new tires are awesome, gripped and flexed well.
-having a front locker makes a world of difference.
-Winch did it's job

It walked up everything except the center line at the rock garden

Bad things
-Starting problem
-Motor smoking (Forgot to run a pcv line, probably the culprit)
-tranny slips when it gets bound up.


To do list
-Karls 203/205 doubler
-Crossmember
-Driveshafts
-Warranty Starter
-Move batteries under hood so I don't have 10000 feet of cable
-Hit the front fender with a hammer

[DRAGOONRANCH]

-Winch did it's job

It walked up everything except the center line at the rock garden



Yep, got me unstuck. Thanks again!

Was the center line the same one I was wedged upon on?

[mudtoy67]

Alto was a good shakedown for the bronco, did a couple of good things, and theres a couple things i need to fix.

Good things,
-new tires are awesome, gripped and flexed well.
-having a front locker makes a world of difference.
-Winch did it's job

It walked up everything except the center line at the rock garden

Bad things
-Starting problem
-Motor smoking (Forgot to run a pcv line, probably the culprit)
-tranny slips when it gets bound up.


To do list
-Karls 203/205 doubler
-Crossmember
-Driveshafts
-Warranty Starter
-Move batteries under hood so I don't have 10000 feet of cable
-Hit the front fender with a hammer

Add note to dash: "Tires will not fit where body will" :D

[Sparling]

Fawking cup holders

[stx4wheeler]

Alto was a good shakedown for the bronco, did a couple of good things, and theres a couple things i need to fix.

Good things,
-new tires are awesome, gripped and flexed well.
-having a front locker makes a world of difference.
-Winch did it's job

It walked up everything except the center line at the rock garden

Bad things
-Starting problem
-Motor smoking (Forgot to run a pcv line, probably the culprit)
-tranny slips when it gets bound up.


To do list
-Karls 203/205 doubler
-Crossmember
-Driveshafts
-Warranty Starter
-Move batteries under hood so I don't have 10000 feet of cable
-Hit the front fender with a hammer


Maybe Karl will let you borrow that doubler..

[KrazyKarl02]

Oh, he's made a non-refundable downpayment....

[TdmayfieldIV]

Yep, got me unstuck. Thanks again!

Was the center line the same one I was wedged upon on?
Yeah, I backed off though:flipoff2:

If I had more gearing I might have made it. I was just heating up the tranny.


Add note to dash: "Tires will not fit where body will" :D

I figured my massive bumper would protect it.........guess not

[Sparling]

Needs more stinger

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Yeah, I backed off though:flipoff2:

If I had more gearing I might have made it. I was just heating up the tranny.




Yeah, stoopid carbs....

[TdmayfieldIV]

Yeah, stoopid carbs....

Motorcraft 2100.......Didn't have a carb problem.

[TdmayfieldIV]

Happy Birthday to me!

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Got it from Karl. It's an ORD 203/205 doubler with ORD triple sticks. Gonna take my time building some pimp ass crossmembers, should be wheelable before thanksgiving.

[AggieTJ2007]

this pimp ass crossmember you talk of should be interesting. How is it different than the one that is currently attached to it?

[KrazyKarl02]

Last night Tommy was saying he was going to bend it out of tube. After you left I remembered why I did not do that. Most tubing benders have like a 6" radius die, so in order to go from level with the ground, to verticle, then back to level it requries 2 radius's or about 12".

Having made a doubler cross member, you can mind f' it to death, in the end, just get under there and make something. I wish I would have cleaned my welds up a little more, but in the end, it was the Klogger.

[TdmayfieldIV]

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l222/mrdrinksalil/Doubler/IMAG0419.jpg

Should be something like this. Alll three crossmembers in 1.

[Sparling]

If you're going through that trouble instead of bolting in the crossmember that came from karl, you should make sure it has a flat bottom and make a flat bottom skid plate a part of it or that bolts to it.

[JB]

Mine hung down below the frame. That crossmember wouldnt have worked

[JB]

I had to go back and look at mine. We just did a tubular crossmember for the trans, the factory 205 mount, and a TMR customs rear yoke support off the skid. I never had any issues with that setup. But only wheeled it for 1.5 years, albeit rather harshly.

I did not use the holes in the bottom of the ORU adapter.

[bcolman]

all I can say is make sure you have some sort of secondary support off of the 205 to make sure that you take some of the torque load, once I did that I stopped snapping trans/tcase cross members, something like the mount going to the rear bearing cover in your picture above

[TdmayfieldIV]

The plan is just to basically copy Karl's crossmember with two cradle bars. One will be on the adapter between the 203 and 205, the other will be off the rear bearing plate. Instead of doing a separate tammy crossmember I'm gonna make a 180 bend and weld it to the front tube and bolt the tranny mount to it.

[KrazyKarl02]

Like I said, you can mind f' the cross member to death. At the end of the day the picture below shows what Off Road Design has on their website and apparently it works. I am still amazed that ORD, who probably has sold more doublers than anyone, could only find this picture to post on their site....
19515

[TdmayfieldIV]

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I'll have to bolt it up and go from there. but this is what I have pictured.

[bcolman]

why not just use the one that came with it and add the front hoop for the trans mount?

[AggieTJ2007]

Mine is all 3 crossmembers in one with link mounts tied in as well, seems to work great so far minus the fact that it is a royal pain to install or remove and weighs a **** ton.

[TdmayfieldIV]

If you're going through that trouble instead of bolting in the crossmember that came from karl, you should make sure it has a flat bottom and make a flat bottom skid plate a part of it or that bolts to it.

I can't make a flat belly without cutting the **** out of my floor. I'm making I'd just rather start from scratch, making that one work would probably be just as much work.


Mine hung down below the frame. That crossmember wouldnt have worked

Yeah but the idea is the same, all in one is what i was getting at.


I had to go back and look at mine. We just did a tubular crossmember for the trans, the factory 205 mount, and a TMR customs rear yoke support off the skid. I never had any issues with that setup. But only wheeled it for 1.5 years, albeit rather harshly.

I did not use the holes in the bottom of the ORU adapter.

Yeah the ORD kit has aluminum holes, I'll use them but they're not gonna be the source of most of the support.


all I can say is make sure you have some sort of secondary support off of the 205 to make sure that you take some of the torque load, once I did that I stopped snapping trans/tcase cross members, something like the mount going to the rear bearing cover in your picture above

I'll be using the factory foot mount, not sure if i'm gonna use the bearing plate cover also.


Like I said, you can mind f' the cross member to death. At the end of the day the picture below shows what Off Road Design has on their website and apparently it works. I am still amazed that ORD, who probably has sold more doublers than anyone, could only find this picture to post on their site....
19515

Modifying the factory crossmember would be more work than making myown.


why not just use the one that came with it and add the front hoop for the trans mount?

Cause I want a shiny new one made for bronca, Making that one fit would be just as much work.


Mine is all 3 crossmembers in one with link mounts tied in as well, seems to work great so far minus the fact that it is a royal pain to install or remove and weighs a **** ton.

Yeah it'll be heavy, but easier to balance on a transmission jack.

[TdmayfieldIV]

It all depends on how it looks when i mate the doubler tonight. Being that i have the short c6 housing (7 inches shorter than the stock one) I might not even have to change the tranny crossmember.

[Sharpe]

I can't make a flat belly without cutting the **** out of my floor. jack.
You cut a foot out of the entire body and you're worried about a small floor change??

[AggieTJ2007]

I'll be using the factory foot mount, not sure if i'm gonna use the bearing plate cover also.


Yeah it'll be heavy, but easier to balance on a transmission jack.

Using the factory foot mount is a wonderful idea,

I would cut the floor, I didnt have to cut too much out of my floor to do a flatbelly with a 205/231 doubler in the TJ. Although I do have a 1inch body lift.

Guess I should buy a transmission jack the is tall enough.

[Sparling]

making that one work would probably be just as much work.

I'd guess not. It came out of the klogger which should have the same width frame as your bronco so it should be as easy to bolt up the doubler to your transmission, bolt on the crossmember and then weld some tabs to the frame where they should go. Then take it all out and weld the tabs in solid and box them a bit.

[TdmayfieldIV]

http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/xx6/TdmayfieldIV/IMAG0289_zps6584819b.jpg (http://s736.photobucket.com/user/TdmayfieldIV/media/IMAG0289_zps6584819b.jpg.html)

That giant hole was already there.....

[bcolman]

I'll be using the factory foot mount, not sure if i'm gonna use the bearing plate cover also.

Coming from experience here I would highly recommend a secondary mount to absorb the torque. Not everyone is as nice as the schubring's and willing to spend a few hours in the dark towing you off the trail cause your trans/tcase crossmember snapped and you lost all power including lights, if you do not install one you are asking for problems, especially since you have a decent V8 and you aren't afraid to use the skinny pedal

[Sharpe]

Drill tap the huge boss furd 205s have and make a foot mount to the frame. I broke three TH400 housings in Pigpen before I added the foot mount. After that, no more problems.

[zebvance]

Are you going to have to get a new drive shaft?

[TdmayfieldIV]

It's too clocked to use the factory mount. Didn't realize it before I put it in.

Problems.
-Need to Re-route fuel and brake lines so I can weld to the frame.
-Mounting holes in AL are starting to get wallowed out. Maybe I'll do a helicoil, or just use studs and nuts instead


Karl, where did you get the bearing plate mounting bracket? All I can find is fancy ones that come with bushings.

[AggieTJ2007]

He made it plate, transfer punches and a drill press are alll you need

[JB]

http://www.tmrcustoms.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=106&products_id=732


??

[KrazyKarl02]

He made it plate, transfer punches and a drill press are alll you need

Technically I gave BDR keystone and he made it while I was working on something else, but yeah, we just did a paper to steel transfer.

[TdmayfieldIV]

http://www.tmrcustoms.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=106&products_id=732


??

80 bucks for a piece of plate and a bushing? No thanks.

[stx4wheeler]

Good luck getting a trans jack to work easily on that.

I like how I made my frame mounts that have a piece of 1.75" tube ran through them parallel and up inside the frame. I ran all of my electrical and fuel through those.

There should be some pics in my build thread. Making a good full skid is tougher than you think. I have only hit my doubler skid like 3 times, and yes you can really mind f these crossmbers, try not to.

[stx4wheeler]

http://www.tamor.org/forums/showthread.php?11458-Project-Nasty-Bastard/page14

Link toy doubler stuff

[TdmayfieldIV]

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One side frame bracket done.

[Fredo]

Two questions.

Where is the exhaust going to go?

Is that going to be a poly bushing right next to the header collector?

[TdmayfieldIV]

It's a good 6" away. The picture makes it look a lot closer.

The crossmember is gonna go under the exhaust.

[Fredo]

Hokay! Just checkin!

[TdmayfieldIV]

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Progress. Legs will be welded to the crossmember and bolted on the frame bracket. Still figuring out the 205 mount. It'll either be on the bearing plate or the side mount.

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[TdmayfieldIV]

Not scott schubring nice, but i'm pretty proud of it so far. Uses the 205 factory side mount off of that top crossbar between the two frame outriggers.

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[TdmayfieldIV]

http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/xx6/TdmayfieldIV/IMAG0368_zps487a5177.jpg

Do you even tig, bro?
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[TdmayfieldIV]

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Side mount for the 205

[mudtoy67]

Nice work!

[tommy53002]

Looks good. Who did the Tig work?

[KrazyKarl02]

Am I blind, where is the trans mount? Otherwise looks good.

[Sparling]

Looks good. Who did the Tig work?

Evan


Am I blind, where is the trans mount? Otherwise looks good.

There isn't one yet. Maybe thursday.

[stx4wheeler]

I thought Clayton started on Thursday?


Looks good though. I always hated the Clayton prep/finals week. There was never enough time.

[KrazyKarl02]

Just saying, I went to alto and downsouth with only the doubler cross member and no trans cross member...

[JB]

Factory trans crossmember is in way of front shaft. My trans crossmember was a piece of tube bent around the front shaft

[Hellbent]

Factory trans crossmember is in way of front shaft. My trans crossmember was a piece of tube bent around the front shaft

Thanks JB!

[TdmayfieldIV]

It'll be done or I won't sleep..........

Got the shifters done. They're a little out of alignment but they work, and that's all I'm worried about at the moment.

[mudtoy67]

The cradle is already pretty sturdy, and since the bottom loop goes forward of the adapter foot, maybe just an outrigger to the trans mount (like the one for the foot on the 205) would be sufficient? This would just tie everything together...most of the weight is supported on the doubler adapter anyway.

[Sparling]

Why tie them together? Then if you have to drop just the doubler you have to dick around with jacking up the transmission too and then it's harder to get the doubler stabbed back in. It'd be easier to make a separate crossmember for the transmission.

[mudtoy67]

I think it would be easier than making a crossmember that has to go under/over/around the front driveshaft. With the people doing a single tube crossmember for their doubler adapter I would agree a separate trans crossmember would be necessary. With that large cradle and 4 frame mounting points I don't think it would be necessary to have a separate trans crossmember. A ratchet strap across the frame rails can hold up the trans just fine when the cradle is pulled.

[TdmayfieldIV]

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new list

waiting on this guy to finish up the 05 axle stuff.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/axles-tires-wheels/890475-99-04-ford-dana-50-60-unit-bearing-hi-steer-kits.html

[AggieTJ2007]

Where is TCC going to be? Trees ranch? K2?

[TdmayfieldIV]

Idk. Ask an officer.

[JB]

k2

[Sparling]

Seal up your firewall and floor

[KrazyKarl02]

Now that you graduated, where are you going to live?

[TdmayfieldIV]

Conroe

[TdmayfieldIV]

http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/xx6/TdmayfieldIV/IMAG0412_zps4f98c86f.jpg (http://s736.photobucket.com/user/TdmayfieldIV/media/IMAG0412_zps4f98c86f.jpg.html)

Fresh slate. Re-doing all of the front sheetmetal.

[Sparling]

Too bad college station doesn't have a pick n pull

[TdmayfieldIV]

Replaced both batteries and the starter today, turns out one of my batteries had 2 cranking amps, the other had 400/880. Starts like a champ now.

[TdmayfieldIV]

Time for a new motor.

Can't decide what to do.

Option 1
Buy a $1200 long block and reassemble the tins and intake.

Option 2
Junkyard efi 460

Option 3
Have a 460 built.

I'm really leaning towards rebuilding the 400. I already have all of the accessories that will work for it, however, they aren't the best motors in the world and the power will be the least out of the three options. If I go this route I'll get rid of the nylon timing gear and put a bigger cam in it.

After seeing all the **** that carl's been through with the factory speed density efi, I really don't want to go that route. At the end of the day, i'm still using a jy motor that's probably been through some **** with 20 year old sensors and wiring harness.

Building a 460 would be sweet, but without a core, and having to buy tins, motor mounts and a intake, It'll be the most expensive option.

Options 1 and 3 will be getting aftermarket throttle body efi.

[Sparling]

You should do option one. You won't want to wire anything EFI and you have a huge hard on for the modified motors.

The best choice though would be to keep your bronco together and freshen up a 460 with factory efi, put a cam, straight up timing set and shorty headers and put that into your bronco once you have the motor rebuilt. Go to a junkyard on a half off day and stuff as much of the wiring harness as you can in the pan before you take it up front. It will bolt up to your transmission, and you don't have to do any fab work, just bolt in some new motor mounts. There's nothing wrong with speed density, it works. That's why you see all the old mexican workers driving old Ford trucks.

[KrazyKarl02]

Hi, I'm Karl, with a "K". **** that guy Carl.

There was something bad wrong with my speed density 302, I'll give you that, but my junk yard roller motor 351 that was speed density ran like a scalded ass ape. Frick has told mehis350 tbi didn't have the ass that 351 did. On several runs people came up to me and said, "Man your big block sure does put some power out"

My advice, and it's just my advice, **** the 460' it's heavy, you have a doubler, you are making a crawler, not a mud bogger. The only legit reason for a big block in the Offroad world is a mud bogger.

Find a good running f150 or f250 with a 351 (**** a 302), part the truck out, keep the motor/trans. Trim the harness. Rock out with your cock out.


The acc. You are trying to save are an alternator (150 tops) and a power steering pump (150 tops).

Above all else, do not try to adapt fuel injection to a carb 460, that is just dumb for a rock crawler.

Again, my opinion.

[KrazyKarl02]

Side note, any engine with a 2 barrel motor craft carb, I support.

[BroncoJo]

I kinda support the 351 idea, but it cost more to make the power a 460 would and I don't think tommy would be happy.

IIRC the 460 is only a couple hundred pounds more than a 400, and I don't really see this as a dedicated "rock crawler."

Find a running fuel injected 460. Then swap into your truck and run it until you can build a new badass 460. After which you will have a 79 bronco that kind of fits down trails, makes lots of hp and noise, and you will be able to show off anywhere from Alto to Clayton... Until you have a catastrophic break down ( which we all know is another form of showing off ).

[robertf03]

can you get overdrive with the 460?

[BroncoJo]

can you get overdrive with the 460?

Yes

[Sparling]

E4od has it

[KrazyKarl02]

He has a doubler, if he wants to crawl he does not need displacement. If you want to mud bug go get a big block

[Sparling]

460 with 2 motorcraft 2100s and a big cam with a bunch of lobe separation.

[zebvance]

I never caught why you are throwing out your old motor. Blow it up? Anywho, I would rebuild the 400 that is in it and put a big cam and high flowing heads, or if it has already had that done to it take the next step and stroke it.

[Sparling]

I never caught why you are throwing out your old motor. Blow it up? Anywho, I would rebuild the 400 that is in it and put a big cam and high flowing heads, or if it has already had that done to it take the next step and stroke it.

Tommy's motor runs but smokes real bad on throttle. The only good thing is you will never get west nile virus riding in his bronco. If you're spending all that money on a 400, why not spend it on a 351 or 460? The whole point of suggesting a different motor is so he can use factory EFI. It doesn't need a bunch of power anyways, it just needs to sound good. Big cam with lots of lobe separation, that way every redneck at alto asks if it's got a cam in it.

[mudtoy67]

Perhaps an RV cam? :D

[Sparling]

Too smooth

[AggieTJ2007]

Doesn't matter what we think Tommy will do what he wants. I suspect he goes with a 460 and a cam that doesn't idle very well with some carbs.

If it were me I would swap an LQ4 or LQ9 in place, if you wanted to keep with the Ford find a 5.0 Coyote

[Sparling]

Tommy if you do go factory efi 460, do some research on cams before you buy anything because if you change the efficiency of the motor then the speed density computer won't calculate the mass of the air right and it will run like dog ****. That's where mass air has the advantage. Speed density motors do really well with boost though.

[zebvance]

Just go all out and throw a 6bt in it.

[TdmayfieldIV]

Then I'd have to get tow mirrors......that defeats the point of narrowing it.

[BroncoJo]

Then I'd have to get tow mirrors......that defeats the point of narrowing it.

Glad to see you're thinking clearly :gigem:

[FJAggie07]

scrap the whole thing and throw an LS based something or other at it. Always the answer.

[AggieTJ2007]

scrap the whole thing and throw a bunch of money at it. Always the answer.

Preferably someone else's money
FIFY

[FJAggie07]

Preferably someone else's money
FIFY

Preferably.

Good luck Tommy! Just keep that big bitch running.

[Seth]

I was going to look but this thread is 48 friggin pages long. What the ****. At some point I seem to remember you being very attached to this motor because you had sunk a lot of money into rebuilding it. No? Also, DavidO has a good post on the first page :)

[TdmayfieldIV]

its blown.......why would I keep running it? There would be no mosquitoes left in the world, then all of the frogs would die and we couldn't gig them....

[TdmayfieldIV]

Welp, Flywheel finally got to the point where it won't start anymore while chet was doing some a-1 towing recovery. So I guess the motor rebuild is going on an accelerated timeline because he has to pull the motor to replace it.

[tommy53002]

Why do you have to pull the motor to replace the flywheel?

[Sparling]

He doesn't like pulling the tranny

[KrazyKarl02]

He doesn't like pulling the tranny

Never know what you are going to get when you give a tranny a tug...

[TdmayfieldIV]

two birds with one stone....

[stx4wheeler]

I have a 460 with a big cam that could be bought. Only been on about ten trips since rebuild.

[TdmayfieldIV]

pm me a price

I wasn't gonna go 460, but if it's big nasty's 460 I guess I have to. It's destiny.

[Sharpe]

Better plan on hydroboost brakes.

[Sparling]

It would be a good idea anyways on the bronco

[BroncoJo]

Do it

http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/4367977531.html

[Sparling]

That's way overpriced. I bought a non wrecked truck for not much more. If you put a 7.3 in, put an obs motor in it. Also plan on hydroboost brakes.

[BroncoJo]

That's way overpriced. I bought a non wrecked truck for not much more. If you put a 7.3 in, put an obs motor in it. Also plan on hydroboost brakes.

And it's debatable as to which one is in better shape!

[Sparling]

Not anymore

[stx4wheeler]

Not until I threw another 4g's into it.


Fixed it for you.:flipoff2:

[Sparling]

More than that. Tranny and injectors alone go over that. But I'm almost done being broke because of my truck.

[BroncoJo]

More than that. Tranny and injectors alone go over that. But I'm almost done being broke because of my truck.

Are you going to sell it?

[Sparling]

No, I'm just done fixing all the broken and worn out parts. Only things left are a new steering box and lock outs.

[TdmayfieldIV]

http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/xx6/TdmayfieldIV/20140419_151419_zps6uar5xey.jpg

Ok Here's how it sits right now, gonna give myself some time to collect parts, plan is to have it ready for Alto.

To Do:

-Motor (either Coleman's 400 or an efi 460)
-Radiator, Going with a summit brand aluminum one, only slightly more expensive than a plastic one from the parts store http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-380431-3/overview/
-Full hydro
-New steering column
-move batteries under the hood
-fix quarterpanel, add protection
-New front clip, add protection
-spray bomb diesel smoke metallic

[BroncoJo]

You can do it!

[TexTJ209]

http://thedarkglobe.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/rob.jpg

[BroncoJo]

...

Thank you, I didn't feel like looking for that.

[Sharpe]

At a boy.

[TdmayfieldIV]

http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/xx6/TdmayfieldIV/20140518_170726_zpsopgllrtp.jpg (http://s736.photobucket.com/user/TdmayfieldIV/media/20140518_170726_zpsopgllrtp.jpg.html)

#dieselsmokeforlife

[zebvance]

looks good!!!

[Sparling]

#oversprayeverywhere #7.3swap #44s #doyouevenwheelbro #kingsbrah #karlybluetoothadapter #needsmoreturbo #OGdieselsmokepaintjob #youshouldhavedonethis2yearsago

[AggieTJ2007]

Get it ready by July for DSO. Jeep will be there, it will be a great time

[TdmayfieldIV]

I'm about to be living right next to dso.....

[TMatheaus]

You moving into Karl's camper in his driveway?

[colman]

http://houston.craigslist.org/bar/4480580821.html

[TdmayfieldIV]

Need efi

[RCcola55]

Didn't you already have efi?

[TdmayfieldIV]

No. Motorcraft 2100

[Sparling]

Damn it Tommy. TBI

[TdmayfieldIV]

let's not go down that road...

[Fredo]

Glad to see you are tackling the important tasks, like paint, first...

Also, TBI works like a champ. It's not its fault that you couldn't figure it out. :flipoff2:

[AggieTJ2007]

Glad to see you are tackling the important tasks, like paint, first...


That's what the jeep is missing, a completed paint job.

[AggieTJ2007]

Glad to see you are tackling the important tasks, like paint, first...


That's what the jeep is missing, a completed paint job.

[zebvance]

https://m.facebook.com/groups/173062776164407?view=permalink&id=441932822610733

[Sparling]

What does he gain from that?

[zebvance]

A running 460 for basically free after he parts it out and pulls it across the scales....

[BroncoJo]

Those look like half ton axles

[Sparling]

He wants efi, not just a 460. That bronco would be a waste of time, and let someone else buy that who might save it. He needs to buy an efi 460 truck so he has all the small parts and wiring harnesses.

[TdmayfieldIV]

Got the motor bolted up and motor mounts made today.

http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/xx6/TdmayfieldIV/20150103_232813_zps9f7r9iav.jpg (http://s736.photobucket.com/user/TdmayfieldIV/media/20150103_232813_zps9f7r9iav.jpg.html)

http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/xx6/TdmayfieldIV/20150103_232927_zpsla2dyhvn.jpg (http://s736.photobucket.com/user/TdmayfieldIV/media/20150103_232927_zpsla2dyhvn.jpg.html)

http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/xx6/TdmayfieldIV/20150103_232855_zpsy3bhvykm.jpg (http://s736.photobucket.com/user/TdmayfieldIV/media/20150103_232855_zpsy3bhvykm.jpg.html)

[KrazyKarl02]

Nice to see you didn't scrap it...... Yet. :flipoff2:

[Sparling]

Quitter

[Sharpe]

Tell the Sloth to say hey to Pigpen, Ryno's bronco, Cook's XJ, Flem's CJ, the original Trail Klogger and all the other rigs that never were up there.

[JB]

Lame

[robertf03]

what did I miss?

[KrazyKarl02]

what did I miss?

I think something to do with this:

http://www.texas4x4.org/sale-24/ford-1-tons-44-tsls-203-205-doubler-81833/

[tommy53002]

Why the change of plans? I thought the new motor was in and this thing was going to Clayton?

[Sparling]

His bronco just needs a computer and some zip ties to go but tommy just doesn't like his bronco anymore so I guess it's getting parted out.

[BroncoJo]

2 grand cash and I'll take the whole thing

[tommy53002]

His bronco just needs a computer and some zip ties to go but tommy just doesn't like his bronco anymore so I guess it's getting parted out.

That's too bad. It's a pretty cool rig. What does he want to do, go by a jeep?

[Sparling]

I really don't know. I think he's just going to be a rider for a while.

[Shaggy]

boo

[Sharpe]

I'll pour out some 5w20 in its memory

[TdmayfieldIV]

look, y'all can boo and complain and call me a quitter all you want, but y'all arent the ones stuck with dealing with this thing. I don't have the time or space for a trailer queen trail rig right now.

One day i'll build another one, i've learned everything I know from trial and error on this thing. Yes, Sparling, I could fix a couple of things to make it nicer, but the fact is this thing will never be the caliber that I want.

Until i have my shop built and some disposable income, i'll use the money i get from parting it out for a Polaris Ranger or something that I can just go douche around in.

[Sparling]

I disagree but it's your rig, let China make it into little toys and ****ty tools if you want. I just know a bunch of people that regret scrapping their rigs for one reason or another. It doesn't cost you anything to let this thing sit or slowly pick away at the little things. Just my 2 cents.

[AggieTJ2007]

Isn't this the bronco you have had since high school? You will regret it. I thought the same about the jeep but in the end it doesn't hurt anything to let it sit in the garage for a couple of years while I save money.

[JB]

I scrapped my Bronco and now drive a TJ. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?!

:(:D:flipoff2:

[BroncoJo]

I scrapped my Bronco and now drive a TJ. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?!

:(:D:flipoff2:

This

[KrazyKarl02]

I scrapped my Bronco and now drive a TJ. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?!

:(:D:flipoff2:

I scrapped the Klogger and now drive a YJ. Just go ahead, get it over with, buy a jeep, start kissing dudes, and call Collins Bros. for a catalog.

[Shaggy]

I miss my bronco. I didn't have but a small amount of work left and I gave up. I hate myself sometimes for it. And I now own 3 jeeps. I wish I hadn't gone to the dark side

[colman]

ive got 70 acres that you can park it at in Round top, Tx free of charge. If you are going to give up for a while sell the tires, buy a cheap 4 wheeler and put some rollers on it and let it sit for a few years. I feel like others you will regret it.

[BroncoJo]

**** sell the tires and I'll pay you double scrap for the rest!

[Sparling]

Scrap is way down, that would be like 300 bucks

[robertf03]

scrap it

sometimes i miss my cj, but everything about the discovery is better and I can drive it in university park without getting pulled over

take a break, pick a better platform that is usuable the other 351 days of the year you are not on vacation and start over

[Seth]

scrap it

sometimes i miss my cj, but everything about the discovery is better and I can drive it in university park without getting pulled over

take a break, pick a better platform that is usuable the other 351 days of the year you are not on vacation and start over

That's 355 days for Tommy :)

[TdmayfieldIV]

That's 355 days for Tommy :)


and 365 for seth who has a rig but doesn't wheel. How are those axles i sold you 3 years ago?

[Sparling]

Longer than that. Your bronco hasn't ran in 3 years.

[tommy53002]

You selling the hydro assist stuff?

[Sparling]

Literally everything is for sale. I think the only thing sold so far is the doubler

[TdmayfieldIV]

Everything must go.

PSC Pump
PSC Res
PSC Ram

Make offer.

[Seth]

and 365 for seth who has a rig but doesn't wheel. How are those axles i sold you 3 years ago?

I was making a (not very funny) joke about the amount of vacation you recieve since it seemed thats what flem was referring to. In which case its something far less than 365 days for myself. But i digress.

So, me choosing not to have a wheeling rig is worth you trying to trash talk?? :)

I wouldnt call my f150 a wheeling rig. Im thinking of selling it and purchasing a thermal scope with the cash. Easier for me to rationalize that way :)

If anything, my scout would make a better wheeling rig, but i would kinda like to make it a fun sunday driver/ranch truck. Kinda like fricks blue bronco was/is?

Otherwise, an "overland" rig could be fun and useful, flem is onto something there. Maybe a scout traveler, or if i felt like batting for the other team, a zj.

If i wanted a rockcrawler, its hard to beat these little tube rigs, but the cash outlay aint happening right now. It would have to be a 3k rig ready to go a la sam.
I hate having the realization that i want 4 or 5 different rigs to do 4 or 5 different things. Plus a boat :)

Maybe if i build a shop, or better yet, live somewhere with use of one, ill get around to fooling with something more.

Oh yeah, the one axle you sold me is still waiting to be installed. Has it only been three years? You/sparling/travis never came and installed it :flipoff2:

So, now back to your liquidation.

[tommy53002]

Everything must go.

PSC Pump
PSC Res
PSC Ram

Make offer.

You have a PM.

[tommy53002]

You have a PM.

..

[Sparling]

He said he didn't get one. Try him on fagbook