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BMFScout
02-05-2010, 02:07 PM
Ok I have a good 22re and 5 speed in a wrecked 2wd truck. Wiring, engine mounts, etc good, just the front end is smushed.

I have found a v6 5 speed 4 runner with a f'ed up motor, cheap.

How hard would it be to put the 4 cyl where the V6 was? I'm thinking some different wiring and maybe mounts? Was the 5 speed the same in the v6 and 22re?

The 4runner sounds like it is in great shape and has a bunch of new parts.

Eckert- I was just kidding about the scout stuff. SII frames are heavier duty and better as an offroad platform. People put early scouts on SII frames all the time. We're friends again right? :flipoff2:

DRAGOONRANCH
02-05-2010, 02:20 PM
Ok I have a good 22re and 5 speed in a wrecked 2wd truck. Wiring, engine mounts, etc good, just the front end is smushed.

I have found a v6 5 speed 4 runner with a f'ed up motor, cheap.

How hard would it be to put the 4 cyl where the 5 speed was? I'm thinking some different wiring and maybe mounts? Was the 5 speed the same in the v6 and 22re?

The 4runner sounds like it is in great shape and has a bunch of new parts.

Eckert- I was just kidding about the scout stuff. SII frames are heavier duty and better as an offroad platform. People put early scouts on SII frames all the time. We're friends again right? :flipoff2:

This has to be the stupidest idea ever!

I bet on all your report cards it said:

Jimmy Brune: Doesn't play well with others penis's.

:flipoff2:

FJAggie07
02-05-2010, 02:21 PM
Nope. The 5 Speed that came behind the 22RE is the W56, the 5 Speed that came behind the 3.slow is the R150F.

Shouldn't be too hard, just need the right ECU to swap over, some different mounts, swap the engine and transmission and figure out what you need to mount up that T-Case to the R150F (shouldn't be much) and go on down the road.

FJAggie07
02-05-2010, 02:25 PM
reference...

http://www.marlincrawler.com/java/getratio.html

BMFScout
02-05-2010, 02:29 PM
Chris, you mean mount the t-case to the w56? I would have a 4wd R150F, and a 2wd w56 in my pile of parts.

Also, what are the gear differences in the 4 cyl and the 6? I would assume the v6 would have taller gears.

4-Banger
02-05-2010, 02:35 PM
This has to be the stupidest idea ever!

You knockin' the 4-cyl?:flipoff3:

FJAggie07
02-05-2010, 02:44 PM
Chris, you mean mount the t-case to the w56? I would have a 4wd R150F, and a 2wd w56 in my pile of parts.

Also, what are the gear differences in the 4 cyl and the 6? I would assume the v6 would have taller gears.

Sorry not enough sleep, meant mount that R150F up to the 22RE. I don't know about the gear differences let me see if I can drag something up...

EDIT: Wikipedia to the rescue

W56:
Ratios:

* First Gear: 3.954:1
* Second Gear: 2.141:1
* Third Gear: 1.384:1
* Fourth Gear: 1.00:1
* Fifth Gear: 0.85:1

R150F:
Ratios:

* First Gear: 3.830:1
* Second Gear: 2.062:1
* Third Gear: 1.436:1
* Fourth Gear: 1.00:1
* Fifth Gear: 0.838:1

DRAGOONRANCH
02-05-2010, 02:45 PM
No, just the ****ty choice of car company. :flipoff2:

uglyota
02-05-2010, 02:49 PM
is the bellhousing pattern even the same? Does R150F have a removable bellhousing? This sounds like the worst idea evar jimmy. If the 4runner is a good deal there is plenty of documentation online for swapping a 3.4 for a 3.0, and then it wouldn't be a turd

BMFScout
02-05-2010, 02:49 PM
Those ratios look fine, was wondering about the axle ratios. Yeah, if the 22RE bolts up to the R150F I would think it would be a fairly simple swap.

uglyota
02-05-2010, 02:51 PM
You're gonna swap the entire wiring harness? I doubt the 3vze computer will run the 22re, or that any of the plugs would match

BMFScout
02-05-2010, 02:54 PM
is the bellhousing pattern even the same? Does R150F have a removable bellhousing? This sounds like the worst idea evar jimmy. If the 4runner is a good deal there is plenty of documentation online for swapping a 3.4 for a 3.0, and then it wouldn't be a turd

I already have a rebuilt 22re with less than 10K miles on it. How much is a 3.4? I guess I'll pass on this one then and stick to finding a 22re truck?

Here is the 4runner...

http://dallas.craigslist.org/sdf/cto/1585850255.html

BMFScout
02-05-2010, 02:56 PM
You're gonna swap the entire wiring harness? I doubt the 3vze computer will run the 22re, or that any of the plugs would match

I have one, don't really see how it would be THAT hard.

BMFScout
02-05-2010, 03:09 PM
Looks like I would need a 22re turbo bellhousing to bolt up my 22re to the R150F. I'm thinking a 4wd W56 would be much easier to find.

Like so...
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/pts/1578179980.html

BMFScout
02-05-2010, 03:24 PM
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&source=hp&q=544%20Langston%2C%20Cedar%20Hill%2C%20TX&oq=&safe=strict&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl

go to street view, you can see it! :)

Eckert
02-05-2010, 03:59 PM
Eckert- I was just kidding about the scout stuff. SII frames are heavier duty and better as an offroad platform. People put early scouts on SII frames all the time. We're friends again right? :flipoff2:

:laughing:

Its all good

looks like you got alot of it figured out. you need a turbo bell housing to mate the 22re to a R150F. or find a R151 which came out of a turbo truck. but that is 23 spline output for the t-case, so make sure you get the t-case.

the wiring is going to be different. so make sure you have a harness and ECU from a 22re truck. motor mounts are different. basically everything is different. but you will have all upgraded components, such as the radiator and brakes.

and since we are friends again. i have a W56 and R1FA out of a '89 truck you can have for $100. only problem is its forward shift. but i dont think it matter for you, given your situation. but your going to have to figure out a cross member for the t-case.

the V6 has a chain driven t-case also, aka poo.

thats the just of it, what else did i miss?

Eckert
02-05-2010, 04:04 PM
Looks like I would need a 22re turbo bellhousing to bolt up my 22re to the R150F. I'm thinking a 4wd W56 would be much easier to find.

Like so...
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/pts/1578179980.html

that trans is weaker than the rest, not worth it. $200 for the combo tops just because of the top shift. it is also shorter and with throw your Drive shafts and mounts off.

J Cooper
02-05-2010, 04:14 PM
When I put the 22re in the Charlie truck Eric and I swapped the entire harness to one from a 22re truck (lights and all).
... it was fun,not super hard, you just have to strip it all the way down... dash and all.

agjohn02
02-05-2010, 04:45 PM
shoulda had a V8

Seth
02-05-2010, 07:08 PM
just curious, did you sell the accord? scout?

jerryg79
02-05-2010, 08:52 PM
blanche

BMFScout
02-08-2010, 01:23 PM
Thanks for the input, if it had just been wiring and motor mounts that would have been something. Don't think I'm going to try to tackle this. I'll just keep looking for a running truck or a 22R truck that needs a motor.

I'm about to sell Blanche, Melanie's Stratus. She's pimping the Accord, and I want a little truck. We had one, but some uninsured habeeb pulled out in front of Fred.