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Hot Pocket
03-15-2010, 04:17 AM
1979 Ford Bronco
400/435/205

The goods:
Runs and drives good... for a little while.
Body is solid, no bondo.
Speedometer works, 4x4 works, steering worked surprisingly nice.
floorboards completely redone and interior has been cheapo-lined.. he did a nice job on it though, paint is pretty decent.

The bads:
Needs new: bumpers (someone want to help me custom fab some and make some moolah?), tailgate, seats (front & rear), alternator??, battery, some kind of electrical problem somewhere keeping it from starting. I'm about 95% sure that it will start just fine with a new battery, but will kill it just like it did this one. Previous owner said this thing is a battery killer.. any thoughts on the matter would be great. My plans as of right now are new alternator & battery and we shall see how that goes.

Drove to Waco today to look at a Bronco. Previous owner owned truck for 7 years and has been his weekend project ever since. During that time he installed new master cylinder, booster, lines, completely redid floor which he said had rusted through, he did a good job on all of it. The guy almost cried getting rid of it, touching stuff.. I know. Also has new carb, but this thing is mostly stock. I already removed some cheesy diamond plate step rails. It's sitting on 35's with no lift. The power steering doesn't seem to like that too much though.

Drove Bronco for 45 minutes with no problems. Previous owner said there is a short somewhere and it kills the battery if left on. We get about 30 minutes outside of Waco and Bronco starts losing power.. eventually dies as I coast to a stop. My diagnosis is no juice left in the electrical system + a bad alternator. I'll post follow up on this tomorrow after I remove alternator and put replacement in.

DRAGOONRANCH
03-15-2010, 05:11 AM
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/GIFS/worthless.gif

Oh, and I am pretty sure I win as I am the only one who didn't pitch in on the 'not before hell freezes over' square. :gigem:

Hot Pocket
03-15-2010, 03:18 PM
Alright, dedicating all day to working on this thing.

Beer and other accommodations are provided if you'd like to come lend a hand. :)
I'm at 3900 Hilltop Drive, right off of old college and wellborn.

Hot Pocket
03-15-2010, 07:09 PM
New alternator and battery.. still wont start.

Just clicks when I try to start it. Tried jumper cables and nothing..

Does this mean going through the whole truck and finding the short? Where do I start?

Seth
03-15-2010, 07:33 PM
have multimeter?

Hot Pocket
03-15-2010, 08:03 PM
have multimeter?

Yes

sasquatch
03-15-2010, 08:41 PM
starter or solenoid. hit the starter with a hammer or some **** and try it again. if it works you need a starter; if nothing, replace the solenoid.

AggieTJ2007
03-15-2010, 09:00 PM
check and clean your grounds

if need be install a ground between the battery and motor

TdmayfieldIV
03-15-2010, 09:59 PM
Use a screwdriver and jump the pos cable to the little wire on the front of the pos side of the starter solenoid. if it starts its either the solenoid or the neutral safety switch.

TdmayfieldIV
03-15-2010, 10:07 PM
if your in cs call me tomorrow and we'll get that sombatch running

colman
03-16-2010, 07:02 AM
he had the alternator tested and it was bad so he got a new one on.

now post some pics already. i got a glimpse of it last night but it was under a tarp and has one of the biggest rear bumpers ive ever seen on it. its huge

Sharpe
03-16-2010, 07:51 AM
Could be the ignition switch on the steering column, they do go bad occasionally. Pigpen's went tits-up when my battery cable grounded out on the exhaust one time.

TdmayfieldIV
03-16-2010, 12:10 PM
by jumping the starter solenoid you can tell that the starter and battery are good. There are three things that will prevent it from starting before the starter solenoid
1.ignition switch
2.neutral safety switch
3. starter solenoid

agjohn02
03-16-2010, 12:53 PM
crank, start, and run are not synonymous. i think the alternator was the problem.

Hot Pocket
03-16-2010, 02:01 PM
if your in cs call me tomorrow and we'll get that sombatch running

I'll give you a call tomorrow when it stops raining, are you still free?

Shaggy
03-16-2010, 03:07 PM
pics

Hot Pocket
03-17-2010, 01:12 PM
Here-
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Plans for today
-------------------
Put 35s back on
Put Rear Driveshaft back in
Drink lots of beer
Cruise around block
(someone come help :D)

TexTJ209
03-17-2010, 01:13 PM
Sweet Red X yo.



Image shack is gay. Use photobucket.

Hot Pocket
03-17-2010, 01:22 PM
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs016.snc3/12401_414055059621_816379621_5187783_7613447_n.jpg
http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs036.snc3/12401_414058434621_816379621_5187787_1829368_n.jpg
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs016.snc3/12401_414058464621_816379621_5187788_4338758_n.jpg

:gigem:

TexTJ209
03-17-2010, 01:29 PM
Sweet. :gigem:


That's not a rear bumper, it's a friggin deck.

Hot Pocket
03-17-2010, 01:35 PM
Sweet. :gigem:


That's not a rear bumper, it's a friggin deck.

My deck is even bigger in person:flipoff2:

Shaggy
03-17-2010, 01:55 PM
wow that is a pile... I would have run away... I hope it was near free because it will take lots of cash to get/keep running

Seth
03-17-2010, 02:01 PM
says tate...ha! Those are some serious bumpers, guess you have plenty of scrap to mess with.

AggieTJ2007
03-17-2010, 06:46 PM
yeah the bumpers are worth half the price of the truck just in material. I do like the rear deck looks like awesome south texas beach cruzer. it is big enough to strap coolers too?

4-Banger
03-17-2010, 06:56 PM
Those bumpers remind me of those kids in middle school that had to walk around with the orthodontic headgear all day long.

TdmayfieldIV
03-17-2010, 09:23 PM
still won't start. We tried to push start it but the front driveshaft broke off :laughing:

AggieTJ2007
03-17-2010, 09:28 PM
a la verga,

whats it not doing, turning over or starting?

agjohn02
03-17-2010, 09:29 PM
facepalm

AggieTJ2007
03-17-2010, 09:40 PM
Hot Pocket you are going to learn alot with this truck which is a good thing

KrazyKarl02
03-17-2010, 10:28 PM
Viva BIG NASTY 2!!!!!!!!1!11111!!!!11!

TdmayfieldIV
03-17-2010, 11:22 PM
its a wiring issue. The starter solenoid just clicks. Even when we try to jump the solenoid it doesn't work.

DRAGOONRANCH
03-17-2010, 11:39 PM
yeah the bumpers are worth half the price of the truck just in material. I do like the rear deck looks like awesome south texas beach cruzer. it is big enough to strap coolers too?

You always did like the deck in the rear...

AggieTJ2007
03-17-2010, 11:59 PM
its a wiring issue. The starter solenoid just clicks. Even when we try to jump the solenoid it doesn't work.

check your grounds especially the one on the battery, take them off clean them and the matting surface and try again, or run jumper cables directly to the starter and see if it will jump

Eckert
03-18-2010, 12:22 AM
pull the M'F'ing starter off and test it. I wish i was in college station just so i could watch you clowns monkey around on it.

Hot Pocket
03-18-2010, 12:50 AM
pull the M'F'ing starter off and test it. I wish i was in college station just so i could watch you clowns monkey around on it.

starter is fine, tested it today. got a new solenoid too... still nothing.

engine doesn't even turn over, starter just clicks... I know I need a new battery too. This thing killed the old one

uglyota
03-18-2010, 09:40 AM
Those bumpers remind me of those kids in middle school that had to walk around with the orthodontic headgear all day long.

Brian's back! :gigem: Where you been?

Jump start the dam thing. Your battery is not dead beyond the point of recharging, you just bought it. And check your fawkin grounds like Creighton keeps saying. Put a jumper cable from the starter body directly to the negative post on your battery to make absolutely sure that it's not a circuit issue. Starter usually clicks when it's not getting enough amps. This can be caused by a weak battery, a bad circuit on the positive side, or a bad circuit on the negative side, aka THE GROUND. Find a set of burly jumper cables, run them from a running vehicle to your battery, then run jumpers from there DIRECTLY to your starter.

And stop being a douche. You asked a question, people gave you advice, you blatantly ignored all of it and now you're trying to speculate on what is wrong on your own again as if you know anything. Try what people are suggesting, tell us that it didn't work, then we'll go from there but so far you are not doing that.

agjohn02
03-18-2010, 10:45 AM
And stop being a douche. You asked a question, people gave you advice, you blatantly ignored all of it and now you're trying to speculate on what is wrong on your own again as if you know anything. Try what people are suggesting, tell us that it didn't work, then we'll go from there but so far you are not doing that.

you're really stretching it trying to pick on the newb. i see none of this behavior in this thread. should we take this to the tahoe ball joint swap thread?

uglyota
03-18-2010, 11:12 AM
New alternator and battery.. still wont start.

Just clicks when I try to start it. Tried jumper cables and nothing..

Does this mean going through the whole truck and finding the short? Where do I start?


check and clean your grounds

if need be install a ground between the battery and motor

its a wiring issue. The starter solenoid just clicks. Even when we try to jump the solenoid it doesn't work.



check your grounds especially the one on the battery, take them off clean them and the matting surface and try again, or run jumper cables directly to the starter and see if it will jump



starter is fine, tested it today. got a new solenoid too... still nothing.

engine doesn't even turn over, starter just clicks... I know I need a new battery too. This thing killed the old one

show me where he's paying any attention to any of the advice given to him in this thread. And there's not a tahoe balljoint thread, but show me where I asked for advice, received it, and blatantly ignored it and/or didn't say thank you for it

TdmayfieldIV
03-18-2010, 11:33 AM
actually we did clean the grounds and put a new cables on the battery. The battery is grounded to the block and to the radiator core support.

uglyota
03-18-2010, 11:41 AM
Then why won't the starter turn over the motor, even though the starter was tested to be good? Because there is a weak link in the circuit.

agjohn02
03-18-2010, 12:48 PM
the blue oval is your problem

Hot Pocket
03-18-2010, 01:15 PM
the blue oval is your problem

Ding ding ding!

I made a mistake when I said the battery is new... It's not new; I took it up to Oreilly and had them charge it, but it came back ok. I'm going to get a new one today/ tomorrow. I don't trust this Valu-crap ****.

Hippy-
I've gone through the electrical system with a multimeter. I found that the tach is the problem of the short, it draws about .5 amps of power. I did clean my grounds, and I even got new cables and terminals since the old ones were crap.

Sorry, you are right that I have yet to say thank you for any of the advice posted.

But thank you guys.. It goes without saying that I would be nowhere if I had nobody to come to for help. So thank you all for the help that you've given me.

edit: especially you, Mayfield.. A big thanks to you!

Hot Pocket
03-18-2010, 04:32 PM
She lives!!!!!!!!!

Happiest moment of my life! Fixed the short & the bad alternator. Put in battery from Jetta and she fired right up!

On the to-do list for today

New oil
New U-joint
Fix front driveshaft
Replace rear driveshaft
35's back on (if time)

To do list for tomorrow

Buy New battery
New trans fluid
New transfer case fluid
Add fluid to diffs
Hug truck for running

WHOOP!

agjohn02
03-18-2010, 04:51 PM
crank, start, and run are not synonymous. i think the alternator was the problem.

:gigem:

Hot Pocket
03-18-2010, 04:54 PM
:gigem:

I was the one who called the alternator!

DAMN YOU COX!:flipoff2::D

TdmayfieldIV
03-18-2010, 05:33 PM
Where was the short? The tach wire?

Hot Pocket
03-18-2010, 05:36 PM
Where was the short? The tach wire?

that was it

what weight oil and how much do you think? about to run up to oreilly and get some oil and a new ujoint

Eckert
03-18-2010, 07:01 PM
if you have a battery already, you should NEVER pay to get a new one. if you cant exchnage it for a new one, you suck at life.

colman
03-18-2010, 07:25 PM
not everyone is as shiasty as you tyler, hell your an even bigger jew than me

Eckert
03-18-2010, 07:48 PM
not everyone is as shiasty as you tyler, hell your an even bigger jew than me


blasphemy!

rotella 15w-40

KrazyKarl02
03-18-2010, 08:02 PM
that was it

what weight oil and how much do you think? about to run up to oreilly and get some oil and a new ujoint

It's an "M Block" right? You should be able to piss in it and it will be fine.

TdmayfieldIV
03-18-2010, 09:05 PM
Yeah, that battery isnt bad, just turn on the truck and let it charge. its fine, the short was just making it seem bad

DRAGOONRANCH
03-18-2010, 11:57 PM
rotella 15w-40

this

Sharpe
03-19-2010, 12:05 AM
Dont furd gassers use 5w20? Thats all they get at work, but we dont have any 78-79's in the fleet.

85cj7
03-19-2010, 12:18 AM
Dont furd gassers use 5w20? Thats all they get at work, but we dont have any 78-79's in the fleet.

thats what my 5.4 and 302 get. but who knows with broncos

Shaggy
03-19-2010, 12:23 AM
i always ran 10w30 in my m block

stx4wheeler
03-19-2010, 12:27 AM
Tell me what your oil pressure is and I'll tell you what oil to use!!! I'll respond to your pm when I'm back in Texas and not drunk.

TdmayfieldIV
03-19-2010, 12:29 AM
I have always used 10w30. For what its worth, i tore my first engine apart after it had exploded the piston rings (previous owner was a JackA$$) and the cam lobes, crank bearings and cam bearings looked close to new with it. The engine had like 80k when it got fawked. That being said, the m blocks are notorious for low oil pressure so when 10w30 gets hot i have only 18 psi at idle. When i had 5w20 it was like 25. I recommend 5w20. Right now i have mobil 1 synthetic 10w30 at the time, in hinesight (sp) i should have used 5w20. I didn't even think about it when i bought the new oil.

oh here's the piston rings of my first motor just for fun

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/705770/fullsize/086.jpg

oh and the excessive crank pressure resulted in this along with blowing oil everywhere

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/703185/fullsize/083.jpg

uglyota
03-19-2010, 01:35 PM
I'm real proud of you boys and Imma let you finish, but neither the alternator nor the draw on the tach were the reason the truck wouldn't start. The battery was. The battery was dead because you drove it with a non-functioning alternator, and was dead before that because of the short. So I was right. :flipoff2:

enjoy beating on your truck

colman
03-19-2010, 02:55 PM
sorry guys, hippie is correct

Hot Pocket
03-19-2010, 03:48 PM
Um, hello.. I diagnosed this

How does hippy get all the credit!?!

agjohn02
03-19-2010, 04:16 PM
You're all fags. I'm right.

BroncoJo
03-19-2010, 05:02 PM
1979 Ford Bronco
400/435/205

The goods:
Runs and drives good... for a little while.
Body is solid, no bondo.
Speedometer works, 4x4 works, steering worked surprisingly nice.
floorboards completely redone and interior has been cheapo-lined.. he did a nice job on it though, paint is pretty decent.

The bads:
Needs new: bumpers (someone want to help me custom fab some and make some moolah?), tailgate, seats (front & rear), alternator??, battery, some kind of electrical problem somewhere keeping it from starting. I'm about 95% sure that it will start just fine with a new battery, but will kill it just like it did this one. Previous owner said this thing is a battery killer.. any thoughts on the matter would be great. My plans as of right now are new alternator & battery and we shall see how that goes.

Drove to Waco today to look at a Bronco. Previous owner owned truck for 7 years and has been his weekend project ever since. During that time he installed new master cylinder, booster, lines, completely redid floor which he said had rusted through, he did a good job on all of it. The guy almost cried getting rid of it, touching stuff.. I know. Also has new carb, but this thing is mostly stock. I already removed some cheesy diamond plate step rails. It's sitting on 35's with no lift. The power steering doesn't seem to like that too much though.

Drove Bronco for 45 minutes with no problems. Previous owner said there is a short somewhere and it kills the battery if left on. We get about 30 minutes outside of Waco and Bronco starts losing power.. eventually dies as I coast to a stop. My diagnosis is no juice left in the electrical system + a bad alternator. I'll post follow up on this tomorrow after I remove alternator and put replacement in.

I hate to do it but I have to give some credit to HP, however it was very poorly executed. :gigem: or :flipoff2: (not sure which is correct:D)

uglyota
03-19-2010, 07:34 PM
Um, hello.. I diagnosed this

How does hippy get all the credit!?!

I'm not trying to take all the credit, just saying you're retarded for thinking a bad alternator or a 1/2 amp draw on the tach was keeping your starter from turning the motor over :flipoff2:

bcolman
03-19-2010, 08:27 PM
why not 30 weight oil?

TdmayfieldIV
03-19-2010, 08:55 PM
we hooked jumper cables between my running truck and his and it didn't do anything different. We had a multimeter on the battery and it was charging 14 volts for a good 10 minutes. Thats why we didn't think new battery

agjohn02
03-19-2010, 09:13 PM
I'm not trying to take all the credit, just saying you're retarded for thinking a bad alternator or a 1/2 amp draw on the tach was keeping your starter from turning the motor over :flipoff2:

.5A draw drains the battery, bad alternator doesn't recharge it, vehicle with DEAD battery won't jump start

robertf03
03-19-2010, 09:14 PM
did you make sure it was in park?

TdmayfieldIV
03-19-2010, 11:29 PM
Nope, most of the time we were trying to start it he didn't push the clutch in. Oh well, it works now.

Hot Pocket
03-20-2010, 01:32 AM
we hooked jumper cables between my running truck and his and it didn't do anything different. We had a multimeter on the battery and it was charging 14 volts for a good 10 minutes. Thats why we didn't think new battery

plus the fact that oreilly told me it was a good battery.

PS Thanks for the advice Eckert... Took my old ****ty battery back to vatozone and got a free one. I guess there is some jew in me after all. I just made up a story about how I was passing through Waco about a year ago and picked up this battery but forgot the receipt. It worked.. got a replacement fo FREE!

Today I had a nice little 2 hour cruise around town. She backfires when shifting gears sometimes, going to get new spark plugs & wires tomorrow. The tranny needs a rebuild since it slips out of 4th, and it sounds like the motor could use a tune-up.

The good news-
This truck is all stock. All my gauges and lights work. Only thing is when the blinkers get turned on, it flashes both lights... I think I'll check that out tomorrow. Now that she's running I'd like to get her registered.

sasquatch
03-20-2010, 03:07 AM
bitches

4-Banger
03-20-2010, 05:37 PM
plus the fact that oreilly told me it was a good battery.

PS Thanks for the advice Eckert... Took my old ****ty battery back to vatozone and got a free one. I guess there is some jew in me after all. I just made up a story about how I was passing through Waco about a year ago and picked up this battery but forgot the receipt. It worked.. got a replacement fo FREE!

Autozone's not great for much, but they're good for batteries. Last time I exchanged a battery, I gave them a receipt that wasn't even for the same truck. Still got half off on the new battery :D

Eckert
03-21-2010, 06:07 PM
Autozone's not great for much, but they're good for batteries. Last time I exchanged a battery, I gave them a receipt that wasn't even for the same truck. Still got half off on the new battery :D

fail

HP, where is this pig parked at these days?

colman
03-21-2010, 06:15 PM
the bronco is in the neighborhhod behind triangle bowl off college

Hot Pocket
03-21-2010, 11:36 PM
what colman said.

here she is on the 35s

85cj7
03-21-2010, 11:39 PM
those bumpers are ridiculous, scrap those, recoup some money, and build some nice ones.

colman
03-21-2010, 11:40 PM
did you realise earlear there was a cop behing you while you were driving around and you have no ins, tags or plate. ask clarke how expensive that ticket is

Sharpe
03-22-2010, 01:30 AM
A driveway with no house? WTF!?!?!?!

colman
03-22-2010, 01:55 AM
that is the extra spots at the park across from jacks house, jack is the guy that bought jordan's old bronco

Hot Pocket
03-22-2010, 02:32 AM
did you realise earlear there was a cop behing you while you were driving around and you have no ins, tags or plate. ask clarke how expensive that ticket is

I also don't have any rear view mirrors


so no

colman
03-22-2010, 02:48 AM
you only have to have 1 mirror, more is just nice

DRAGOONRANCH
03-22-2010, 09:20 AM
????

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/Stupid/100_2496.jpg.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/Stupid/100_2495.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/Stupid/100_2497.jpg

Hot Pocket
03-23-2010, 01:20 AM
I know this has been asked several times around here, but search is for newbs!! :flipoff2:

Where are the good junkyards around here?
and
When is the next wrenchfest?

85cj7
03-23-2010, 07:05 AM
there are no good junkyards around here, gordons on hwy 21 east and a new one opened up on 6 N (where gems used to be) are the only two.

Eckert
03-23-2010, 09:02 AM
there are no good junkyards around here, gordons on hwy 21 east and a new one opened up on 6 N (where gems used to be) are the only two.

austostar is the one who moved to 6. gordons is actually decent price wise now.

tommy53002
03-23-2010, 02:55 PM
Auto Part Pros, it is on 28th street (i think) west of texas. I havent ever bought from them, i just know they are there.

Gordons never has what im looking for.

There is also the place on the west side of 6 on the way to Navasota.

Sharpe
03-23-2010, 03:18 PM
Dogget's for later model, "nice" stuff. They are "pricey" compared to the redneck yards but you dont have to/cant pull **** yourself, they have the beaners do it. You have to know what you are looking for though. Gordons is ok for just poking around looking for random ****, and you can negotiate prices as long as you dont dress like a douche. Auto Parts Pros is a decent yard too.

Hot Pocket
03-23-2010, 07:07 PM
She died today. Postponing my parts search.

Sharpe
03-23-2010, 07:25 PM
What the **** did you do?

TdmayfieldIV
03-23-2010, 08:06 PM
its probably not him. Broncos just get tired and injure themselves so they don't have to work anymore. You just have to talk dirty to them.

stx4wheeler
03-23-2010, 10:20 PM
its probably not him. Broncos just get tired and injure themselves so they don't have to work anymore. You just have to talk dirty to them.

I think it's official you are now gayer about these trucks than I am.:flipoff2:

TdmayfieldIV
03-23-2010, 10:23 PM
:flipoff2:

Hot Pocket
03-23-2010, 10:26 PM
gtfo my thread byitches!

I was cruising, positive terminal fell off, reconnected, and she wouldn't start.:mad:

Eckert
03-23-2010, 10:30 PM
gtfo my thread byitches!

I was cruising, positive terminal fell off, reconnected, and she wouldn't start.:mad:

Uhh, if your replaced your alternator, then it shouldnt have died.

TdmayfieldIV
03-23-2010, 10:35 PM
Uhh, if your replaced your alternator, then it shouldnt have died.
:gigem:

4-Banger
03-23-2010, 10:48 PM
She died today. Postponing my parts search.

Wouldn't that encourage you to search for parts? :confused2

TdmayfieldIV
03-23-2010, 10:51 PM
Zing!

colman
03-24-2010, 12:32 AM
what, so basically you didn't fix it. it should have kept running without a battery if the alternator was working. you have almost no draw on the system

Hot Pocket
03-24-2010, 01:09 AM
Thanks for your help.. time to warranty me a new alternator!

edit: or it may be time for this engine to get some work done to it... might as well, the tranny needs a rebuild too

DRAGOONRANCH
03-24-2010, 02:36 AM
Can you jump the truck off and test the alternator first? If the cable slipped off the battery, you may have a bad connection from the alternator to the battery. Check it out again before you go through the trouble of possibly pulling good parts. It may only need a new alternator harness/plug.

KrazyKarl02
03-24-2010, 07:27 AM
edit: or it may be time for this engine to get some work done to it... might as well, the tranny needs a rebuild too

Man, you got a sweet deal :flipoff2:

AggieTJ2007
03-24-2010, 09:20 AM
check to make sure you didn't blow any fuses or fusible links did not blow when the battery cable fell off and grounded against the frame or something

agjohn02
03-24-2010, 10:08 AM
DOH!

http://www.tamor.org/forums/showpost.php?p=252051&postcount=5138

uglyota
03-24-2010, 12:41 PM
...and she wouldn't start.:mad:

I swear to God I'm gonna learn you if it kills me.

Wouldn't start=what?

Turn key to Acc or Run and all electrical circuits dead?
Radio/lights/signals/wipers turn on when you put the key to acc but you turn key to "start" and nothing happens?
Turn key to "start" and starter clicks but won't turn over?
Turn key to "start" and starter tries to turn over but doesn't have enough power?
Turns over but won't start?
Turns over and tries to start?

throw us a freakin bone here

colman
03-24-2010, 01:33 PM
thankyou eric

AggieTJ2007
03-24-2010, 01:38 PM
yes you should just shoot a video with audio of what happens when you turn the key. it would probably be easier than you trying to describe it too us

Hot Pocket
03-24-2010, 01:39 PM
Uhh, if your replaced your alternator, then it shouldnt have died.
Which is why I'm thinking motor problems


Can you jump the truck off and test the alternator first? If the cable slipped off the battery, you may have a bad connection from the alternator to the battery. Check it out again before you go through the trouble of possibly pulling good parts. It may only need a new alternator harness/plug.
I went through all the connections on the alternator and they're all solid. This thing is new, I don't think it's the problem, especially since the voltage gauge on the dash was in a good zone.


check to make sure you didn't blow any fuses or fusible links did not blow when the battery cable fell off and grounded against the frame or something
will do


I swear to God I'm gonna learn you if it kills me.

Wouldn't start=what?

Turn key to Acc or Run and all electrical circuits dead?
Radio/lights/signals/wipers turn on when you put the key to acc but you turn key to "start" and nothing happens?
Turn key to "start" and starter clicks but won't turn over?
Turn key to "start" and starter tries to turn over but doesn't have enough power?
Turns over but won't start?
Turns over and tries to start?

throw us a freakin bone here

Electrical circuits still worked, was able to honk horn fine. When I turn key to start, motor turns over, but wont start.

uglyota
03-24-2010, 01:51 PM
now we're getting somewhere...your truck needs 2 things to run: fuel and spark. It's carbureted with a mechanical fuel pump, right? Since it was running before, it's probably getting fuel. Now find out if it's getting spark by pulling a plug, grounding it against the block and see if it sparks when you turn it over. If it doesn't then there's something wrong with the ignition system. If it does, then screw it back in and see if it'll run with some starter fluid. Then you'll know your problem is fuel. Maybe the short killed your icm, coil, blew a fuse or fusible link related to one of these items. 99.999999% sure your current problem would not be solved with an engine or transmission rebuild

Eckert
03-24-2010, 01:53 PM
If its your ignition. the stock box is crapola and i recommend you buy my MSD w/ coil.

robertf03
03-24-2010, 02:20 PM
msd sucks. skoal lid and a gm hei box

TdmayfieldIV
03-24-2010, 04:58 PM
i have an xtra coil if you want to try that. oh and a bunch of skoal cans:gigem:

Eckert
03-24-2010, 05:15 PM
msd sucks. skoal lid and a gm hei box

you be quiet. your not helping matters at all :flipoff2:

MSD is awesome an then some. but i found a spare durapsark if thats the case.

AggieTJ2007
03-24-2010, 08:37 PM
now we're getting somewhere...your truck needs 2 things to run: fuel and spark. It's carbureted with a mechanical fuel pump, right? Since it was running before, it's probably getting fuel. Now find out if it's getting spark by pulling a plug, grounding it against the block and see if it sparks when you turn it over. If it doesn't then there's something wrong with the ignition system. If it does, then screw it back in and see if it'll run with some starter fluid. Then you'll know your problem is fuel. Maybe the short killed your icm, coil, blew a fuse or fusible link related to one of these items. 99.999999% sure your current problem would not be solved with an engine or transmission rebuild

the spark is hard to see, I recommend you hold the spark plug in one hand and the intake/alternator/manifold with the other and have a friend try to start the motor. you will know if you are getting spark or not for sure then.

:gigem:

TdmayfieldIV
03-24-2010, 09:59 PM
you just have to turn the key to ignition, you don't have to turn it over.

agjohn02
03-24-2010, 10:11 PM
you just have to turn the key to ignition, you don't have to turn it over.

Don't take pointers from this guy.

colman
03-25-2010, 08:12 AM
you just have to turn the key to ignition, you don't have to turn it over.

please only give advice if you know what your talking about.

spark is accumulated/ generates in the coil and is then distributed by the distributer (unless it is new with multi coils but that is another lecture). the rotor inside the cap spins in time with the motor and sends the spark to the correct spark plug wire to the corresponding cylinder. so the motor has to be turning over or running to see if you have spark

Hot Pocket
03-25-2010, 02:21 PM
New plugs and wires... still not firing up.

Checked all the fuses, they're fine. Does this mean MSD ignition? If so, I'm going into unfamiliar territory.

uglyota
03-25-2010, 02:24 PM
I would definitely throw some more money at it before you do any more diagnostics! :flipoff2:

Hot Pocket
03-25-2010, 02:26 PM
I would definitely throw some more money at it before you do any more diagnostics! :flipoff2:

That IS the liberal way of doing things! :flipoff2:

FJAggie07
03-25-2010, 02:30 PM
That IS the liberal way of doing things! :flipoff2:

when did Hot Pocket become Obama?

Eckert
03-25-2010, 02:32 PM
New plugs and wires... still not firing up.

Checked all the fuses, they're fine. Does this mean MSD ignition? If so, I'm going into unfamiliar territory.

simple question:

are the spark plugs making a 'spark'.

im betting the duraspark went south. call me, i have all sorts of stuff you can borrow to make it run until you decide what to spend money on.

TdmayfieldIV
03-25-2010, 03:39 PM
please only give advice if you know what your talking about.

spark is accumulated/ generates in the coil and is then distributed by the distributer (unless it is new with multi coils but that is another lecture). the rotor inside the cap spins in time with the motor and sends the spark to the correct spark plug wire to the corresponding cylinder. so the motor has to be turning over or running to see if you have spark

my bad, see i told you i was incompitent:flipoff2:

uglyota
03-25-2010, 03:50 PM
not to mention a finominol speeler :D

robertf03
03-25-2010, 04:37 PM
do this, forget the duraspark ignition module

http://www.carbdford.com/tech/HEI/hei.htm

colman
03-25-2010, 08:40 PM
at one point we were all ignorant, except cox. he was born omniscient...... or was that impotent

TdmayfieldIV
03-25-2010, 09:12 PM
hey what about the alternator regulator. Mine went bad because i crossed some wires on my alternator.

colman
03-25-2010, 09:32 PM
nope, i was right

om·nis·cient   /ɒmˈnɪʃənt/ Show Spelled[om-nish-uhnt] Show IPA
–adjective
1.having complete or unlimited knowledge, awareness, or understanding; perceiving all things.

your word means

om·nip·o·tent   /ɒmˈnɪpətənt/ Show Spelled[om-nip-uh-tuhnt] Show IPA
–adjective
1.almighty or infinite in power, as God.
2.having very great or unlimited authority or power.


and i was in no way saying that cox was all powerful, that would be silly

bburris
03-25-2010, 10:07 PM
What are you talking about?

:flipoff2:

agjohn02
03-25-2010, 10:52 PM
at one point we were all ignorant, except cox. he was born omniscient...... or was that impotent

No way in hell did you spell that correctly without looking it up first.

AggieTJ2007
03-25-2010, 11:36 PM
Make sure that yout coil/ingnition module is getting power those vehicles have all kinds of fusible liknks hidden places

Hot Pocket
03-26-2010, 02:22 AM
hey what about the alternator regulator. Mine went bad because i crossed some wires on my alternator.
Now that you mention it, when I first installed the new battery and new alternator, I put the voltmeter to the battery and was reading like 17.8 volts... It seemed a bit high, but I didn't think twice about it until now.


Make sure that yout coil/ingnition module is getting power those vehicles have all kinds of fusible liknks hidden places

Yessir, I found a couple blown fuses, but Bronco is on hold until I can pay all my bills and car payment

colman
03-26-2010, 02:34 AM
No way in hell did you spell that correctly without looking it up first.

actually i'm quite smart but i refuse to waste it on this website. if you don't believe me just lookup the mensa registry

Hot Pocket
03-26-2010, 02:47 AM
actually i'm quite smart but i refuse to waste it on this website. if you don't believe me just lookup the mensa registry

x2

DRAGOONRANCH
03-26-2010, 03:50 AM
actually i'm quite smart but i refuse to waste it on this website. if you don't believe me just lookup the mensa registry


x2

So which one of you is the father to these three fine young men???

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg124/catchspider2004/English%20movies/Me%20Myself%20and%20Irene/MeMyselfIrene6.jpg

bcolman
03-26-2010, 07:48 AM
actually i'm quite smart but i refuse to waste it on this website. if you don't believe me just lookup the mensa registry

is that why it is taking you 7+ years to get out of college?

jerryg79
03-26-2010, 09:07 AM
actually i'm quite smart but i refuse to waste it on this website. if you don't believe me just lookup the mensa registry

all that does is make us think less of mensa

colman
03-26-2010, 09:38 AM
actually its less than 7 and i left tamu for a year and a half

Seth
03-26-2010, 10:19 AM
actually i'm quite smart but i refuse to waste it on this website. if you don't believe me just lookup the mensa registry

You being on the mensa registry would not convince me of your intelligence, but you saying that does influence other opininos of mine :p

colman
03-26-2010, 10:34 AM
my mommy always said i was special.......








who's gonna be the first to say it?








wait for it

jerryg79
03-26-2010, 11:06 AM
your mom's retarded.

stx4wheeler
03-30-2010, 06:18 PM
Even though I think your a tard here is the fix for your f'ed up head.

http://houston.craigslist.org/pts/1668830189.html

85cj7
03-30-2010, 06:21 PM
that's a good suggestion frick!

Hot Pocket
03-30-2010, 06:56 PM
My head is not effed up.

Like Tommy said, there is a large heater core in the way of the number 4 cylinder... The problem was not a bad head, just bad tools/ position for getting the spark plug to screw in.

But thank you for your post

TexTJ209
03-30-2010, 07:42 PM
My head is not effed up.

Debateable.


Oh you mean for your engine. Nevermind. :flipoff2:

stx4wheeler
03-30-2010, 08:15 PM
Tale the heater out and you have tons of room. There should be a pic of it in big nasty's thread.

Eckert
03-30-2010, 08:34 PM
just bad tools/ position for getting the spark plug to screw in

im going with operator error.


Debateable.


Oh you mean for your engine. Nevermind. :flipoff2:

:gigem:

Hot Pocket
04-02-2010, 04:28 PM
New ICM, plugs, wires

She lives again!:)

Here is a picture of the old ICM... pretty disgusting. I have reason to believe that this is the original ICM. 31 years of crap completely took it over!

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs451.snc3/25836_422674639621_816379621_5322153_6994930_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs471.ash1/25836_422674634621_816379621_5322152_4046844_n.jpg

Eckert
04-02-2010, 06:04 PM
injun control module?

see all that black **** running own your fender? ya, that was part of it. like i said, keep a spare one with you, the duraspark sucks.

robertf03
04-02-2010, 06:11 PM
injun control module?
.

are you confusing it with the egnition control module? ;)

TdmayfieldIV
04-02-2010, 06:17 PM
New ICM, plugs, wires

She lives again!:)

Here is a picture of the old ICM... pretty disgusting. I have reason to believe that this is the original ICM. 31 years of crap completely took it over!

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs451.snc3/25836_422674639621_816379621_5322153_6994930_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs471.ash1/25836_422674634621_816379621_5322152_4046844_n.jpg

Never had a problem with mine.......knock on wood

Shaggy
04-02-2010, 07:48 PM
the one in my 80 went out... easy fix though

agjohn02
04-02-2010, 10:12 PM
are you confusing it with the egnition control module? ;)

That Ickert is sharp as a tack.

colman
04-02-2010, 10:37 PM
U will tommy, in general id the Goo on the back goes and starts melting it is bad or abt to be

Hot Pocket
04-05-2010, 08:55 PM
What do I need to switch the square headlights out to round headlights? I have the actual headlights themselves already.

Sharpe
04-05-2010, 09:01 PM
Figures you would try to put a round peg in a square hole.

JB
04-05-2010, 09:05 PM
search FSB noob. I know nothing of 78-79, but thinkiing for 2 seconds, you prob need some buckets and a new grill.

Eckert
04-05-2010, 09:15 PM
What do I need to switch the square headlights out to round headlights? I have the actual headlights themselves already.

why would you?

RCcola55
04-05-2010, 09:19 PM
stop watching old trucks episodes

sam_hodnett
04-05-2010, 09:30 PM
stop watching old trucks episodes

:D LMAO :gigem:

TdmayfieldIV
04-05-2010, 09:57 PM
Just the buckets, bezels and the headlights themselves, its really not that hard.

but imo the round headlights look ghey

Hot Pocket
04-06-2010, 12:48 AM
stop watching old trucks episodes

sell me your top

RCcola55
04-06-2010, 12:37 PM
$150

Hot Pocket
04-06-2010, 12:48 PM
$150

call me, that's fine if it's in good shape

713 470 seven six five eight

Hot Pocket
04-06-2010, 04:03 PM
Got the Brawnk registered and titled in my name.

Sh!t is awn!

RCcola55
04-06-2010, 04:28 PM
first mistake, never register vehicles under your real name! it puts you on the grid!

stx4wheeler
04-06-2010, 06:31 PM
Round Are the sex. You need buckets, bezels, and lights. I think I have a set of buckets Ill check when I get back home this weekend.

Hot Pocket
04-07-2010, 02:29 AM
thanks frick, I can get the bezels on the cheap, so if you have the buckets that would be the tits:gigem:

Hot Pocket
04-07-2010, 03:28 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-TAILGATE-SHELL-78-79-80-81-82-BRONCO-REAR-TAIL-GATE_W0QQitemZ390178850536QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotor s_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item5ad878c6e8# ht_2784wt_939
:madgrin:


edit: How much should I expect to pay for a windshield? Can I get a windshield off of any 73-79 ford truck?

RCcola55
04-07-2010, 07:30 AM
if you wait a few days i may have a windshield to sell you as well. Sorry i didnt call you back yesterday, this is the week from hell

stx4wheeler
04-07-2010, 07:43 AM
You ever tried to remove and replace one yourself? I have tried to remove some fronts and I always mess them up. I'd go to a shop and have it done

jerryg79
04-07-2010, 07:46 AM
You ever tried to remove and replace one yourself? I have tried to remove some fronts and I always mess them up. I'd go to a shop and have it done

"But on the last episode of Trucks they said...."

RCcola55
04-07-2010, 08:23 AM
i know a crackhead in bryan that can do it......

Hot Pocket
04-13-2010, 05:07 PM
I've done a little reading on driveshaft components since I need to get a new driveshaft for the rear. The yoke on my transfer case is a double cardan, and the yoke on the diff is just a single.

The u-joint that goes on the driveshaft that connects into the 9 inch has caps that measure 1 1/16" (1310??)

Driveshaft length = roughly 46"

My current driveshaft is donezo and needs to be rebuilt. They want something like $400, so if I can find a brand new one for cheaper that will fit with everything the way it is right now, then :gigem:

Where should I start looking?

colman
04-13-2010, 05:13 PM
what parts are bad, the joints, slip, tube is bent.... as usual we need more info. tho i applaud you for your effort this time with providing information.

BroncoJo
04-13-2010, 05:14 PM
If you want a new one
http://broncograveyard.com/bronco/c-106

Or come get mine for $50


And i may be mistaken but i thought 78/79 were 1330 and the early bronco where 1310

Hot Pocket
04-13-2010, 05:30 PM
If you want a new one
http://broncograveyard.com/bronco/c-106

Or come get mine for $50


And i may be mistaken but i thought 78/79 were 1330 and the early bronco where 1310

You may be right. I'm only guessing 1310 since the diameter of the trunnions is 1 1/16".

@ Colman.

It needs to be retubed since the tubing is bent. Then the front (double cardan on t-case) needs a new yoke. The rear slip-member past the splined part of the driveshaft also needs to be replaced.

For $220, that's not a bad upgrade.. Everything underneath this truck is old and stock.

Thanks for the link Travis.

edit:
After looking at this a little more, these are the dimensions I found that came with the rear driveshaft.
3 7/8 x 37 1/4 x 3 7/8

Is that yoke size x length x yoke size?? :confused:

Just wanting to check mine out and get it measured first before I go ahead and place the order.

Hot Pocket
04-13-2010, 05:33 PM
Oh, and apparently during her 3 day camping trip in the Oreilly parking lot, I got several offers from people wanting to buy this hunk o' junk. :cool:

jerryg79
04-13-2010, 05:38 PM
yes when i got mine, the first time i filled it up with gas, a guy asked me if i wanted to sell it....shoulda taken him up on it.

Hot Pocket
04-13-2010, 07:57 PM
Oh, and after a little measuring.. I found out that I have a T18, not a np435

stx4wheeler
04-13-2010, 09:01 PM
Hp i forgot to look on Friday, but I'll look for the buckets tomorrow after work. Also some 78's came with 1310's big nasty was a 1310 truck. To my knowledge all 79's had 1330's.

Hot Pocket
04-13-2010, 09:47 PM
Hp i forgot to look on Friday, but I'll look for the buckets tomorrow after work. Also some 78's came with 1310's big nasty was a 1310 truck. To my knowledge all 79's had 1330's.

Ok. What is the difference between the 1310 and the 1330?

edit: answered my own question.. Did a little measuring on the ujoint. It is a 1330

85cj7
04-13-2010, 10:27 PM
Oh, and after a little measuring.. I found out that I have a T18, not a np435

I was going to write a response of shift patterns of np435 and t-18s differing and then I remembered that this is a 79'; as long as the transmission was not swapped out for a 78' and earlier transmission; the shift patterns of the two trans are the same. t-18s before 79' had reverse up and to the right by the third.

mudtoy67
04-13-2010, 10:41 PM
My pocket is so hot it couldn't get any hotter if it was in my pocket.

Hot Pocket
05-03-2010, 07:10 PM
I need a new rear CV flange for my np205.

1.) How do I get the old one off?
2.) How much is BVD gonna charge me for a new one?

colman
05-03-2010, 07:23 PM
what happened to your old one and call them to find out

TdmayfieldIV
05-03-2010, 07:46 PM
its a 203 btw:flipoff2:

BroncoJo
05-03-2010, 07:47 PM
I have a spare for a 205

Hot Pocket
05-03-2010, 07:49 PM
its a 203 btw:flipoff2:

The 203 was a full time case, but good try. :flipoff2:

I checked out some diagrams, and I need to get the yoke nut off.. It's a big bitch, the biggest socket I have is 24mm and it's bigger than that.

Hot Pocket
05-03-2010, 07:51 PM
I have a spare for a 205

How much and is it a 1330?

Also, do you know offhand the size socket I'm gonna need to get that nut off (insert joke here)

TdmayfieldIV
05-03-2010, 08:09 PM
The 203 was a full time case, but good try. :flipoff2:

I checked out some diagrams, and I need to get the yoke nut off.. It's a big bitch, the biggest socket I have is 24mm and it's bigger than that.

actually you are wrong

http://fullsizebronco.com/forum/showthread.php?t=106384

stx4wheeler
05-03-2010, 08:13 PM
By cv flange you mean yoke? Try 1 1/8 socket that's what most t-case nuts are.

TdmayfieldIV
05-03-2010, 08:28 PM
actually hp, you are right.......my bad:beer::beer:

colman
05-03-2010, 08:52 PM
what is wrong with it

Doug Krebs
05-03-2010, 11:41 PM
what is wrong with it

It has a vanity plate that says "BRAWNK"

DRAGOONRANCH
05-04-2010, 01:21 AM
I will be less than impressed if your imaginary buggy doesn't end up w/ a license plate with "BLAZR" on it. :flipoff2:

Hot Pocket
05-10-2010, 11:39 PM
Experienced what many refer to as the "death wobble" for the first time today.

That was fun

colman
05-11-2010, 12:46 AM
your can't experience real death wobble without leaf springs imho

Hot Pocket
05-11-2010, 01:08 AM
your can't experience real death wobble without leaf springs imho

oh it was real

scared the **** outta me too. The steering needs some attention. It's got quite a bit of play in the wheel, and the death wobble is not fun to deal with.

I'll probably tackle the steering when I get around to the lift, but what should I be looking to replace?

BroncoJo
05-11-2010, 01:13 AM
I'll probably tackle the steering when I get around to the lift, but what should I be looking to replace?

Everything

robertf03
05-11-2010, 06:44 AM
trackbar bushings or geometry. For a while I got really good at canceling out the oscillation with the steering wheel.


if its lifted you should probably look into one with a spherical joint at one end.

stx4wheeler
05-11-2010, 07:16 AM
your can't experience real death wobble without leaf springs imho

How is leaf spring death wobble worse?

These trucks invented death wobble. Change the trac bar bushing/check to see if the lower mount on the axle is wallowed out. Then check the top mount to make sure it's bolts are still tight on the frame.

uglyota
05-11-2010, 09:16 AM
worn/loose ball joints and poor toe-in are probably the initial causes. Everything else just allows the wobble to propagate (i.e. tie rod ends, drag link ends, suspension bushings). Replace ball joints first.




$5 says he starts with a heavy-doody steering stabilizer :flipoff2:

AggieTJ2007
05-11-2010, 09:18 AM
you need 2 or 4 steering stabilizers to fix the death wobble

robertf03
05-11-2010, 09:23 AM
heavy doody steering stabilizers work (kind of) on radius arms.

Eric you listed problems that are the only options with leaf springs. Radius arm setups lose caster as you lift them, then they don't want to center the steering any more. It also binds the track bar and kills the bushing or the mounting hole or bolt wears away. Also the rotation of the axle and different distances between the steering and suspension mount puts the track bar plane slightly off of the steering plane. It doesn't take much lift to make a radius arm setup drive like dog****. At least Ford radius arms are easy to fix with bushings.

uglyota
05-11-2010, 09:32 AM
but his truck's not lifted, right? DW shouldn't even start if the caster's right (i.e. stock), tires are balanced, toe-in is set, and ball joints and tie rod ends are tight. My guess is that this rig just needs some maintenance first (ball joints/TREs)

RCcola55
05-11-2010, 12:44 PM
ask sharpe about my death wobble a few weeks ago, start with tierods and trac bar

robertf03
05-11-2010, 01:01 PM
I thought he just lifted this, is it stock?

colman
05-11-2010, 04:55 PM
stock w/ 35's

uglyota
05-11-2010, 05:07 PM
stock w/ 35's

angry.

TdmayfieldIV
05-11-2010, 06:49 PM
Mine used to do that. I just took a breaker bar and tightened the hell out of the top trac bar bolt and it stopped.

AggieTJ2007
05-11-2010, 09:36 PM
just weld the bolt in

Hot Pocket
05-12-2010, 07:35 PM
Thanks for all the advice

Someone should come learn me some stuff about this truck some time now that school is over.

Free beer and pizza??

RCcola55
05-12-2010, 11:04 PM
get on fullsizebronco and read until everything is covered, thats what i did when i was 16 and still never figured it all out

colman
05-12-2010, 11:09 PM
agreed

Eckert
05-13-2010, 12:01 PM
FSB is full or ra'tards. All this time we tried are best to unlearn mayfield, and now you want to make another one?

uglyota
05-13-2010, 12:02 PM
Engrish...

Eckert
05-13-2010, 12:38 PM
Engrish...

since we are overrun by meskins, I'm working on my best broken engrish.

AggieTJ2007
05-13-2010, 01:30 PM
yeah but mexicans speak better english than that

FJAggie07
05-13-2010, 01:35 PM
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/120px-ENGLISH.gif

RCcola55
05-13-2010, 05:30 PM
FSB is full or ra'tards. All this time we tried are best to unlearn mayfield, and now you want to make another one?

just like any offroad websites, there are a bunch of idiots that heard something one time so they think it is the only way, but in HP's case he is starting from the bottom and if he could just learn to read through the bull**** and comprehend what some of the ones that are worth a **** are saying, there is a lot to be learned from that site, or any site for that means. Its all the interwebwannabehardasses that clog up informative sites and make it a pain for anyone to get some real tech across. That being said the best way to learn is being hands on, not being a crysack when something goes wrong and taking the steps to figure out the problem i.e get a book and read

TdmayfieldIV
05-13-2010, 07:14 PM
Get a haynes manual or chilton. They are pretty helpful for most things.

FSB is good for some things. You just have to take advice with a grain of salt, as of everything on the internet. Some people know what they are doing and some are rednecks who only know the simple, temporary ways to do things. Look at the build threads and you'll know who to take advice from.

I don't get much credit but I learn about things from tearing them apart and fixing them. I tore apart a motor in my garage in Colorado with only my Haynes manual, my neighbor (who was in the process of building a 70 barracuda) and simple hand tools. So if you have a problem, tear into it and see what's up. Just remember where the parts go and put it back together right. Old trucks are brutally simple, you'll learn tricks that work for you. If something doesn't look right it normally isn't and if you aren't sure, then post a picture on here and people will probably know what's going on.

RCcola55
05-13-2010, 09:23 PM
**** the haynes manual

KrazyKarl02
05-13-2010, 10:36 PM
**** the haynes manual

ditto, buy the ford manual, you can probably find it on ebay.

Hot Pocket
05-14-2010, 06:39 AM
That being said the best way to learn is being hands on

I've learned that one... I've also learned that it sucks to learn by experience.

AggieTJ2007
05-14-2010, 08:58 AM
I've learned that one... I've also learned that it sucks to learn by experience.

how so, experience is the best way to learn. Everything can be fixed at a price and if you are careful you don't **** things up.

I learned by reading the internet (when I was supposed to be studying) and then trying. Sometimes it didn't work great but in the end it worked out pretty well

agjohn02
05-14-2010, 09:01 AM
Hotrod Magazine. The lesson plan repeats itself every few years.

DRAGOONRANCH
05-14-2010, 09:28 AM
I've learned that one... I've also learned that it sucks to learn by experience.


how so, experience is the best way to learn. Everything can be fixed at a price and if you are careful you don't **** things up.

I learned by reading the internet (when I was supposed to be studying) and then trying. Sometimes it didn't work great but in the end it worked out pretty well

You don't have to just learn from your experiences.

Learn from others mistakes.
Watch Rowdy wrench on something.
???
Profit!

AggieTJ2007
05-14-2010, 09:41 AM
yes have Rowdy show you how to not remove a set of headers

DRAGOONRANCH
05-14-2010, 09:51 AM
or hook up plug wires...

DRAGOONRANCH
05-14-2010, 09:52 AM
http://www.centexoffroad.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1180

I smell a donor!

RCcola55
05-14-2010, 11:42 AM
or like most of us, learn out of nessecity

agjohn02
05-14-2010, 01:27 PM
or like most of us, learn out of nessecity

which apparently doesnt apply to spelling

DRAGOONRANCH
05-14-2010, 01:39 PM
which apparently doesnt apply to spelling

or punctuation.

RCcola55
05-14-2010, 03:44 PM
which apparently doesnt apply to spelling

who gives a ****, this is the same **** i referred to in a previous post, there is so much nonsense on boards like this that simply trying to help a kid turns into a big dick contest. Get over it

sasquatch
05-14-2010, 04:27 PM
Someone should come learn me some stuff about this truck some time now that school is over.

It's already been said. Just pick up a wrench and start turning it. When you come across something that you don't understand, start reading. If you can't find information about it, ask somebody. That is the only way to gain experience in this hobby.


which apparently doesnt apply to spelling


or punctuation.

Leave the douche on pirate.

Sharpe
05-14-2010, 04:42 PM
Cook's right. There's a reason his, my and JB's buildup threads are 900+ posts long and 5+ years old.

mudtoy67
05-14-2010, 05:04 PM
Cook's right. There's a reason his, my and JB's buildup threads are 900+ posts long and 5+ years old.

Ya, mine too...:flipoff2:

AggieTJ2007
05-14-2010, 11:37 PM
Ya, mine too...:flipoff2:

Yeah but even you don't know where your buildup is headed

Back on topic that ford is a great deal sounds like it has everything that you want/ need and you could learn alot taking it apart and trying to put it in a bronco

Hot Pocket
05-15-2010, 05:03 AM
Don't get me wrong, learning from experience is effective, but how does the saying go?? Experience is a hard teacher because it gives the test before the lesson.

And lets just say it's tough to pass the test without much knowledge :D

Oh, and @ creighton, I like the 400, if I were to spend the money, I'd rather keep it and beef it up than go through with a 460 swap. One-tons aren't really on my list since this truck won't see anything more serious than mud. The only parts off that truck that I'd be interested in are the leafs and shackles to lift up my truck.

Hot Pocket
05-21-2010, 02:47 AM
Got some work done-

Wired in tach
Fixed cigarette lighter (can charge my iphone while cruising now :gigem:)
Fixed Ignition column
Started removing A/C system
Fixed speedometer
Dash light gauges now work

I also found the source of my death wobble. The bushings on the trackbar are all worn to crap, and there's a lot of play in it. Going to pick up the parts at Ho'reillys tomorrow.

Mayfield, Bring your Bronco over so I can take a look at the wiring in the back!!

stx4wheeler
05-21-2010, 07:41 AM
Call me and I'll give so some hints on the trac bar bushing replacement.

Seth
05-21-2010, 12:38 PM
Ignition column? Dash light gauges?

Eckert
05-21-2010, 02:57 PM
Ignition column? Dash light gauges?

no joke, what the hell are you working on?

Hot Pocket
05-22-2010, 06:08 PM
Bad terminology...

The ignition cylinder used to just be hanging down from the wiring harness under the dash, I got a new ignition lock cylinder with keys and mounted it up in the right place.

The gauges light up when you turn on the headlights

Hot Pocket
05-26-2010, 04:50 PM
**** the haynes manual


ditto, buy the ford manual, you can probably find it on ebay.

Good advice right here

Every time I try to reference the Haynes manual, I find myself with more questions...

Which of these 3?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FORD-1979-Bronco-F100-thru-F350-Truck-Shop-Manual-CD-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem35a3aff718QQitemZ23037 9484952QQptZMotorsQ5fManualsQ5fLiterature

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1979-FORD-BRONCO-VAN-TRUCK-F-100-FACTORY-SERVICE-MANUAL-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem439f70c93dQQitemZ29043 7777725QQptZMotorsQ5fManualsQ5fLiterature

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1979-Ford-Truck-Service-Specs-Manual-Pickup-Bronco-Van-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5ad91af4b3QQitemZ39018 9479091QQptZMotorsQ5fManualsQ5fLiterature

TexTJ209
05-26-2010, 04:51 PM
CD Manuals generally suck.

Shaggy
05-26-2010, 05:35 PM
all of those suck... go to almost any parts store and look at their selection... should have one there. if not they can order it

Hot Pocket
05-27-2010, 01:55 AM
all of those suck... go to almost any parts store and look at their selection... should have one there. if not they can order it

The only thing I've seen at Oreillys is the Chilton manuals.. Should I check Napa? What exactly am I looking for here :confused::confused2

Shaggy
05-27-2010, 07:09 AM
a haynes manual... it is like 1-1.5" thick book. just ask at the counter if they can order it... they may not keep them on the shelf anymore as they are not as in demand anymore... they should be able to order one.

Shaggy
05-27-2010, 07:13 AM
http://www.haynes.com/products/productID/160