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cj nut
04-08-2011, 12:24 AM
Were is the best place to get it? Is there any brands to stay away from?

85cj7
04-08-2011, 01:41 AM
I think you are asking, 'Where is the best place to get it? Are there any brands to stay away from?' :flipoff2:


I have been looking into this for a while. I would like to save weight and that is my only motivation as I have no other problems with standard aircraft cable. However, I only payed $400 for my LP8500 and am not going to spend an equal amount just on the winch line. I am also sticking with the 5/16"x~100' of cable which has a breaking point of 12,300lbs. So if you want a different length or diameter then obviously the prices would be different. Always go with AmSteel blue (at least that is what I have heard, no personal experience).

These are the best prices I have found (in descending order). . .

http://www.winchline.com/index.html
$289.70 with safety thimble
$274.73 with tube thimble and hook

A pirate4x4 quote from 'Custom Splice' on 2-20-11 was $205 shipped for tube thimble and hook.

http://rockstomper.netfirms.com/shoppingcart/nfoscomm/catalog/index.php?cPath=1_26_35
$195.05 with tube thimble and hook
$191.00 with stainless thimble only

http://www.amsteelblue.com/item.cfm?itemid=44772
$188.72 with stainless thimble and hook
$185.35 with tube thimble only
$179.02 with stainless thimble only


Remember you will also need a new fairlead for synthetic rope.

Hope it helps!

cj nut
04-08-2011, 01:52 AM
http://www.amazon.com/ProMark-Offroad-Blue-Synthetic-Recovery/dp/B003NTX002/ref=sr_1_3?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1302242542&sr=1-3

I found this on amazon as you can tell it looks "el cheapo" but then again then again I only have about 20$ in the M6000 its going on.... Hard to justify spending 200+ on a 20 dollar winch. Is the Amsteel Blue supposed to be that much better?

85cj7
04-08-2011, 01:54 AM
Yes the AmSteel blue is supposed to be that much better. I know JB bought some kind of off-brand line for his winch recently so I will wait until he chimes in on the matter. Whatever route you go I would cover the line up if it is stored outside, supposedly UV-radiation rots the hell out of these things.

85cj7
04-08-2011, 01:59 AM
Is this for your jeep or what?



Okay I am beginning to ramble, but I am bored right now.

I looked it up and your the M6000 came with 80'x5/16"

So your best bet for legit stuff would be. . .
Amsteel™ Blue 5/16" X 080' winch line w/ crush proof thimble $156.46
http://www.amsteelblue.com/item.cfm?itemid=44843
Amsteel™ Blue 5/16" X 080' winch line w/ Crush proof thimble and H-D sling hook $166.16
http://www.amsteelblue.com/item.cfm?itemid=44840
Amsteel™ Blue 5/16" X 080' winch line w/ Stainless steel thimble $150.13
http://www.amsteelblue.com/item.cfm?itemid=44832
Amsteel™ Blue 5/16" X 080' winch line w/ Stainless steel thimble and H-D sling hook $159.83
http://www.amsteelblue.com/item.cfm?itemid=44837

Sparling
04-08-2011, 02:24 AM
JB broke his winch line at TCC but it was most likely due to the fact that it was wrapped around a rock. I tied it back together and it held pulling corey's jeep over some stuff during the comp course. I'll let him chime in on how it's done in the past.

cj nut
04-08-2011, 11:12 AM
I thought I tied it back together hahaha, for 150 or so that sounds kinda like a good deal.

JB
04-08-2011, 11:29 AM
it broke because I was a dumbass and wrapped it around a boulder. I am going to try and cut it back and reuse it.

cj nut
04-08-2011, 11:54 AM
what brand was yours jb? I'm thinkin, maybe ill go with the amsteel blue.... Ill have something nice on the jeep that way.

JB
04-08-2011, 01:02 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Tuff-Stuff-SYNTHETIC-WINCH-ROPE/dp/B002CFHCPW

eight
04-08-2011, 01:27 PM
Won't break real cable when you wrap it around a boulder, or if for any other reason the line contacts an edge.

JB
04-08-2011, 02:10 PM
I have broken 'real cable' doing similiar.

davido
04-08-2011, 03:05 PM
I have a Rockstomper one. I also broke it in an area that was probably rubbed on something. I'm still using the same rope, it just broke off about 8' - 10' of it with the hook. I tied it around a clevis for now and I don't trust it as much.

Before that I felt generally safer with rope due to the lack of recoil if they break. I know people have broken cables before also, but it weirded me out when I broke that. It's a scary thought when you're doing something like this.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_eydf-J9wvmw/S2OHDfHxVZI/AAAAAAAAMw4/L9vSa3pco3Y/s720/IMG_0233.jpg

AggieTJ2007
04-08-2011, 05:34 PM
is that las cruces I really need to get out there and wheel

eight
04-08-2011, 06:37 PM
Yep, that is. I put a new winch on just before that trip, and you're looking at what it was first tested on.

I have never seen a cable break where it recoiled anything close to what everybody is scared of.

sam_hodnett
04-08-2011, 11:57 PM
Corey, you are going to spend several hundred dollars to put synthetic line on a ****ing 6k winch that you got from a junkyard? and then you are going to put said winch on your jeep? good god man save the money and buy burris's 60. it wont catastrophically fail the first time you use it. just buy some damn cable and use that

cj nut
04-09-2011, 02:53 AM
Sam how do you get several hundred out of 150? And for 150 I have a winch that works well? Sounds like a decent investment to me. Maybe you should focus on getting your own ride going more than mine.

cj nut
04-09-2011, 02:55 AM
So I have another problem.... when I was tightening the winch on the jeep one of the back bolt holes decided to break.... Does anyone know were I can this part of the case for a reasonable price? I really don't want to spend a whole bunch of money on this thing.......

TdmayfieldIV
04-09-2011, 08:10 AM
You can buy replacement parts from warn, but you're going to end up spending more money fixing it than you bought it for.

Do you know if it even works?

Even if it does work, you'll end up spending $200-300 fixing a winch that is too small for your jeep. Just sell it on craigslist for $50 and buy a smittybilt 8k for $300. That will be big enough for your jeep and has a warranty on it.

cj nut
04-09-2011, 09:15 AM
Yes it does work, Ive already had the motor apart, and checked it out. When I wired it up it ran great, I also have a Warn 9k but it needs a new motor. Id much rather have a warn than a smitty built. I found the part through poly performance for 88bucks.

eight
04-09-2011, 09:35 AM
I think the motor for the warn 9K will be less than $100. Just don't buy it through warn. Have you tried having the 9K motor rebuilt?

http://www.amazon.com/Winch-Motor-WARN-Spline-HEAVY/dp/B002T4U6HW/ref=pd_sbs_auto_1

There, that's cheaper than repairing your 6K, and you get to have a bad dude winch, not a little dude.

eight
04-09-2011, 09:39 AM
Do a little researching and you may find a larger motor that will fit. I replaced the 2.? hp motor on my old ramsey 12K with a 5hp.

cj nut
04-09-2011, 09:40 AM
there is something wrong with the brake on it also, I just havn't had time to pull it off and look at it. I figured the 6k should work fine on the jeep for now. I do plan on fixing the 9k in the future it just needs a lot of cleaning and tlc.

cj nut
04-09-2011, 10:44 AM
I have thought about doing the larger motor on the 6k, the 6k is a lot lighter (I know partly because of a smaller motor). But If I could get it to have the power of the 9k it would be awesome. Has anyone tried to use parts from a cheaper winch that looks similar to a warn to fix their warn? i.e. drum support of either end? my other option is try to figure a way to mount it were the back bolts won't have as much stress on them and just leave that one out or as it is.

BroncoJo
04-09-2011, 10:59 AM
I normally try not to bash ideas, but why are you spending money and time to fix the 6,000 when could put the same effort into the 9,000 if it's going to be for the jeep?

TdmayfieldIV
04-09-2011, 01:34 PM
The reason Evans broke is probably because the rear right bolt came out. That puts a lot more stress on the body.

cj nut
04-09-2011, 03:05 PM
I was thinking out evens winch, Which kinda scared me. The 6k should work "ok" on the jeep, and more importantly the 9k needs a lot of parts and is almost not worth fixing unless I can find some random parts cheap.... I have an Idea I think may work.... I shall find out in a few hours, should be a pretty easy fix.

bcolman
04-09-2011, 06:26 PM
one of my 12k winches was locked up all i had to do was take it apart and lube it up, it only took about 2 or 3 hours while having a few beverages also and now it works great, i bet all you need for the 9k is a new motor

cj nut
04-10-2011, 01:13 AM
I pulled the 9k apart, and sprayed PB blaster all over it, its pretty bad. The brake on it doesn't work either... I put the 6k on the jeep and just used the cable from the 9k so I can see how well it will work. After putting the cable on it and dragging things around the yard I'm pretty happy with it.

85cj7
04-12-2011, 12:14 AM
Warn 9000i solenoids for CHEAP. Not sure if you need them or not for the repair.
http://lsjc.org/board/showthread.php?t=51879

colman
04-12-2011, 10:35 PM
i have that 5k with a bad motor at my ranch, do some research and see if those parts will work for you.