November 12-13

[MR.ZAP]

The date for the next run has not changed, however, at the meeting tonight some new ideas were thrown out and it was decided that the decision would be made by majority vote.

For reference, links to all parks can be found here: Wheelin List (http://www.tamor.org/forums/showthread.php?11885-Comprehensive-Wheelin-List)

[BroncoJo]

There was an overwhelming amount of new members wanting to go to Hidden Falls

[TdmayfieldIV]

Gilmer is not worth the cost. I vote marble falls.

[CountryaggieFX4]

Gilmer is not worth the cost. I vote marble falls.

Ya you shouldnt have to take a loan to go wheelin :gigem:

[MR.ZAP]

Gilmer is not worth the cost. I vote marble falls.

Remember, I'm calling tomorrow to see if we can get a group rate but apples to apples, both cost the same.

[Hot Pocket]

Also down for Marble falls, already talked to my buddies Jack and Jason who wheeled with us out at Alto, and they said they're down for that weekend and that they know of people already going out there as well.

If people want to go to gilmer, then I'm sure a couple of the older members have already decided that's what they want to do. What's wrong with having two trips? If you want to go to gilmer, then go. But I personally will be going to Marble falls :gigem:

[93yotaSAS]

Hidden Falls sounds good to me

[JB]

frusterating

[robertf03]

no kidding, I was going to thrash on the disco this weekend to make it to Gilmer. At least I won't be rushed now.

[BroncoJo]

When we asked who was planning on making it to gilmer you could hear crickets chirping...

However there was still a lot of interest in wheeling that weekend with the majority of people wanting to go to hidden falls (including about 10 new members)

[MR.ZAP]

Okay so if we get 12 rigs to go and leave early Saturday, it will be $55 for drivers and $35 for passengers. That's two days if wheeling and one night camping. Thoughts?

[BroncoJo]

I thought the point of last nights meeting was to finalize the decision? Let's stick with what we got.

[sam_hodnett]

Okay so if we get 12 rigs to go and leave early Saturday, it will be $55 for drivers and $35 for passengers. That's two days if wheeling and one night camping. Thoughts?

to where?

[MR.ZAP]

Hidden Falls

[TdmayfieldIV]

why can't we go up there friday?

[MR.ZAP]

We can, but that brings the total up to $70 and that is IF we have 12 or more RIGS.

[sasquatch]

i will be at gilmer regardless of noob attendance.

[FJAggie07]

*** So you want to go to Hidden Falls to Save $10 IF you have 12 or more rigs? Good plan!

[JB]

Gilmer appears to be $30/day for a rig and $10/night....So Saturday morning thru Sunday is $70. Hidden Falls is $55 for the same time span.(IF we hvae 12 rigs. I doubt we would, and I would ASSume that the price would then be about the same as Gilmer)

Riders at Gilmer for Sat-Sun = $20
Riders at Hidden Falls = $ 35

I have never heard much talk about Hidden Falls on the forums, and while I would like to wheel there, changing the venue 8 days prior is bull****. I would hate for everyone that says they are going to Hiddens Falls bail at the last second and the people that planned ahead, got screwed, then changed their plans to go to Hidden Falls, show up.

We need a hard count on who is going to Hidden Falls on the forum ASAP.

I am working in Denton next week, so I was planning on bringing the Bronco with me this coming Monday for the Gilmer trip.

[MR.ZAP]

*** So you want to go to Hidden Falls to Save $10 IF you have 12 or more rigs? Good plan!

Exact opposite, we had suggested Marble Falls as an alternative and it sounded great to everyone (closer, figured pricing would be better), but then I found out that the fees were the same. I am playing Devil's Advocate here.

I don't know much about either place, but obviously $10 bucks isn't much of a difference. My IF was me trying to quietly imply that we may as well go to the proven venue, i.e. Gilmer. Because what will really happen (based off of previous experience) is that half of the guys who said they wanted to go, won't go, and that will leave us with maybe 5 rigs paying essentially the same amount of money to wheel a place that virtually nobody knows a thing about. That being said, there is no reason why we can't have one group go to Marble Falls and one go to Gilmer if there is that much interest in both. Different strokes for different folks.

[BroncoJo]

JB- sometimes plans change, sorry but it was mentioned before the meeting, on the forums, that location may change.


The problem was that at the meeting not one member (except Sam and he was on the fence) expressed the slightest interest in going to Gilmer. In fact everyone with a rig made it a point to say they were not going to Gilmer. This lead to discussion about other venues and the majority of members committed to going to Gilmer. I made the points that: in reality $80 isn't much, wheeling ain't cheap and new members have to show interest on the forums to get **** planned.

It's ridiculous to flip-flop about this.

[MR.ZAP]

new members have to show interest on the forums to get **** planned.

Agreed 100%

Regardless of my feelings on the matter, the current majority vote is for Marble Falls, and that is where I will be heading next weekend.

[BroncoJo]

why can't we go up there friday?

There is nothing stopping you?


Well it doesn't make it any easier that the other thread got deleted but all I saw was 1 definite and 2-3 maybes for Gilmer.


I suggest going with whatever can get the most votes by Sunday (for JB :flipoff2:) and be done with it.

[FJAggie07]

Sounds like you had JB, Cookie, and Flem willing to go to Gilmer. Hell I would go to Gilmer but I am joining the wife in a track day thing she is doing with her car.

Before ya'll make an uninformed decision, Gilmer is WELL marked and RATED so you always know what you are getting into with the trails. Apparently this year they redid the access roads, and there are great shaded and protected camp spots with fairly decent bathroom/shower facilities. Hidden Falls is a Dust Bowl, but a huge property. 6 half dozen the other with me, I am not going so I have no voice. :)

BTW if anyone wants to go to Clayton tomorrow I am playing hookie from work and making a day run :D

[JB]

Why was the thread deleted?

[MR.ZAP]

To limit confusion. If there is going to be two different trips, we can open it back up.

[BroncoJo]

Sounds like you had JB, Cookie, and Flem willing to go to Gilmer. Hell I would go to Gilmer but I am joining the wife in a track day thing she is doing with her car.

Before ya'll make an uninformed decision, Gilmer is WELL marked and RATED so you always know what you are getting into with the trails. Apparently this year they redid the access roads, and there are great shaded and protected camp spots with fairly decent bathroom/shower facilities. Hidden Falls is a Dust Bowl, but a huge property. 6 half dozen the other with me, I am not going so I have no voice. :)

BTW if anyone wants to go to Clayton tomorrow I am playing hookie from work and making a day run :D

One definite (cook) two maybes (JB and Flem) and zero other members. Hidden Falls was suggested by members at the meeting as most of the people wanting to go wheel (but not go to Gilmer) have already been there and enjoy the place.



Why was the thread deleted?

I'll re-open the thread, I don't think it should have been deleted.

[Kyle.]

i dont care where we go, but Im coming and bringing beer and women :gigem:

[BroncoJo]

i dont care where we go, but Im coming and bringing beer and women :gigem:

Winning

[TdmayfieldIV]

i dont care where we go, but Im coming and bringing beer and women :gigem:

Pics or gtfo

[MR.ZAP]

hahahaha

[hudhawk]

i dont care where we go, but Im coming and bringing beer and women :gigem:

Something tells me this guy has his priorities in order

[eight]

I may be able to make this hidden falls trip, depends on rain next week. Got to blow up a tire on the scrambler. Talked to some guys a few weeks ago that had been to hidden falls on ATVs, said it's too big of ledges for ATVs, kind of makes me want to bring the quadracer.

[Deluxe]

yall are lame and chose the worst weekend :flipoff2:

[MR.ZAP]

Just because it is your birthday doesn't mean you get to call the shots... This is a wheelocracy, not a wheeltatorship :flipoff2:

[robertf03]

oh we're playing that card. Well the 12th is mine and I say gilmer ;)

[TdmayfieldIV]

Well the 16th is my 21st. And I don't give a **** where we go.

[MR.ZAP]

^^^ boom!!!!!!

[sam_hodnett]

the 16th is not in question here, so your birthday is not a valid argument

[BroncoJo]

Well the 16th is my 21st. And I don't give a **** where we go.

You're just saying that to look cool, you were pretty attiment about not going to Gilmer at the meeting :flipoff2:

[MR.ZAP]

Adamant maybe? :flipoff2:

[Deluxe]

I just figured this bitch fest needed another 2 cents in the pot. And I will too be callin the shots! :flipoff2:

[JB]

pretty attiment :

wow, chemical engineer right?:flipoff2:

[85cj7]

I voted for Gilmer in the previous thread. I gotta get all the Alto bugs worked out of the jeep and get back up to Dallas at a reasonable date this week to get it all done but GILMER it is.

I am 100% not going to Marble Falls next weekend. I have been all around the Hill Country for the past two weeks and I'm not driving all the way to Dallas to pick up the jeep to just turn around and come right back down here again. I am sick of this dust bowl for now.

[BroncoJo]

I voted for Gilmer in the previous thread. I gotta get all the Alto bugs worked out of the jeep and get back up to Dallas at a reasonable date this week to get it all done but GILMER it is.

I am 100% not going to Marble Falls next weekend. I have been all around the Hill Country for the past two weeks and I'm not driving all the way to Dallas to pick up the jeep to just turn around and come right back down here again. I am sick of this dust bowl for now.

There was no vote in the other thread

[CountryaggieFX4]

Im supposed to have my truck back by wednesday so should still be good, hope oliver brother transmissions does good work because im going to break it in right :flipoff2:

[Kyle.]

Its officially hidden falls right? Thats my vote. the girls I'm talking to wanna be back in college station saturday night. Hopefully they dont flake out.

[MR.ZAP]

At this moment, yes.

[4-Banger]

I'm going to Hidden Falls. I've been mentioning the damned place since last year, but no one ever showed interest in it until this meeting. It finally gets support, and the old members decide to start bitching?

We've never been there. We've been to Gilmer. Yeah , it's not in you Dallasites' back yard. Boo ****ing hoo. Most of the club does not live in/around Dallas :flipoff2:

[sam_hodnett]

personal attack, ban him

[Sharpe]

Most of the club does not live in/around Dallas :flipoff2:

All of the important members do

[JB]

I'm going to Hidden Falls. I've been mentioning the damned place since last year, but no one ever showed interest in it until this meeting. It finally gets support, and the old members decide to start bitching?

We've never been there. We've been to Gilmer. Yeah , it's not in you Dallasites' back yard. Boo ****ing hoo. Most of the club does not live in/around Dallas :flipoff2:

No one is bitching about Hidden Falls. I am bitching about the late venue change/decision.

Its not that big of a deal, so I won't continue to make it one. I would just like to get a firm head count of who all is going to Hidden Falls. If I were an elected Tamor official, and was having problems getting new members involved, I would go back to the TAMOR Facebook page, that had so much early year success, and post something about the trip there.

[BroncoJo]

No one is bitching about Hidden Falls. I am bitching about the late venue change/decision.

Its not that big of a deal, so I won't continue to make it one. I would just like to get a firm head count of who all is going to Hidden Falls. If I were an elected Tamor official, and was having problems getting new members involved, I would go back to the TAMOR Facebook page, that had so much early year success, and post something about the trip there.

Zach personally message (on FB) all the new members that said they were interested and I believe that is why KY, Delux and countryaggie post here. I specifically told them at the meeting that if they want to change the trip they really need to show interest on the forums so the old members can see why the trip is being changed. :flipoff2:

And I was planning on announcing the trip on the facebook page Monday to make sure nothing else changed.

[sasquatch]

Still going to gilmer.

[Kyle.]

anyone got a tent I can borrow for this trip??

[BroncoJo]

Walmart does

[CountryaggieFX4]

Walmart does

Yep stock up with a tent, ac unit, heater, sleeping bags, then take it all back monday :flipoff2:

[MR.ZAP]

Well it is Monday, I think we have our final verdict.

[TdmayfieldIV]

I need a tow there.

[Hot Pocket]

I need a tow there.

I asked first :flipoff3:

[Lwood15]

Ill be willing to tow someone that needs to be towed there and back. I dont have a trailer but i have a truck ready to go.

[MR.ZAP]

McDonalds at four on Friday? Earlier? Later? Who can do what?

[sam_hodnett]

Ill be willing to tow someone that needs to be towed there and back. I dont have a trailer but i have a truck ready to go.

welcome! Please introduce yourself here http://www.tamor.org/forums/showthread.php?2598-Official-newbie-introduction-thread.../page15

[BroncoJo]

Just got an email that said cooking fires and fire for warmth are allowed, hopefully that will last through the weekend. It specifically said that bon fires were not and certain restrictions apply

[Kyle.]

4 sounds good to me man. Im good to go after 2 on friday.

[MR.ZAP]

Hmm change of plans, both of my roommates are coming which means I have to wait until five fifteen or so.

[Kyle.]

I have 2 girls and my roommate coming, which means my Jeep wont have much room for our stuff. So if anyone has some room in their rig or truck I can put a cooler and tent in itd be much appreciated.

[JB]

Anyone have a 5 gallon container for water to keep near the fire as required?

My truck bed will have extra space for people needing it

[TdmayfieldIV]

If I can't get this tbi fixed I can't come

[JB]

You should get it fixed then.

[TdmayfieldIV]

I'm trying. Got a new computer today.....no worky

[sam_hodnett]

I'm out for this one guys, have a good time.

[Kyle.]

how many people are coming? sounds like it wont be alot of people

[John]

Well I am going, along another friend, Larry and Taylor so thats 3 rigs just dont know when were leaving yet

[sam_hodnett]

Well I am going, along another friend, Larry and Taylor so thats 3 rigs just dont know when were leaving yet

Welcome, introduce yourself in the introduction thread i linked above. This way people wont be wondering who you are :gigem:

[MR.ZAP]

All of the above plus me, Travis, Jeff (I think), Tommy maybe, JB, Overall, and maybe a few more, should be a good turnout!

I am going to be leaving my house at 5, which means I can be at McDonalds or wherever at 5:15. Travis, have you asked the guy how late they stay on-site to take yo moneys?

[Kyle.]

dammit guys. I hate to be that guy, buuuuut looks like Im not gonna make it on this trip now. That what I get for not planning. Im gonna make the damn Clayton trip though.

[FJAggie07]

Should be a good one.

[TdmayfieldIV]

Leaving whenever I can put my engine back together. I'll drive the son of a bitch if I can't get a trailer to use.

[MR.ZAP]

Anybody coming to home depot? I will wait until 5:15

[CountryaggieFX4]

dammit guys. I hate to be that guy, buuuuut looks like Im not gonna make it on this trip now. That what I get for not planning. Im gonna make the damn Clayton trip though.

This guy :rolleyes:

[FJAggie07]

Ya'll are going to have to post a final head count of how many people show up to this event. ;-)

[MR.ZAP]

Ended up with ~ six rigs, seven club members, and about 12 or 15 people total. It was a pretty cool park, they allow night wheeling until midnight, which was something new for me and most definitely awesome. Kinda small, we ran practically the entire park between last night and today, but it most assuredly has something for everyone. Almost every trail has a bypass as well. Well worth the $ for a night and a day.

[JB]

It was fun. Very nicely set up park. We got there Friday night, wheeled, camped, wheeled all day Saturday and it only cost me $32. I had to pay $10 additional though to rent an helmet for ATV riding. Lots of bikes, ATVs, and rigs. Signage was decent but it was still easy to get lost. It was better than Canyons, but was not Katemcy.

[BroncoJo]

Zach- can you upload some photo's to facebook?

[MR.ZAP]

Tommy took all the photos and videos, waiting for him to upload them

[TdmayfieldIV]

http://s736.photobucket.com/albums/xx6/TdmayfieldIV/?action=view&current=VIDEO0008-1.mp4

pictures and videos