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KrazyKarl02
01-28-2012, 09:49 PM
Hi, My name is Karl, I have a problem, I am the East Texas Redneck whisperer, if a redneck in East Texas list something on craigslist, I can get in his mind and talk him down. The real problem is then I can not buy the item, like this:

1980 Toyota "hilux", I will call it the ***ux, because well it is a pile of crap. Redneck in Dayton was asking $1800, I paid $500... He actually said, don't let me wife see the money, she would be pissed if she knew I was selling this for $500! Here are the good things about it.

- Good 22R engine (these came with 20r's)
- New Alternator
- New KC lights
- Brand new and I mean like the guy bought it a week ago Optima battery
- New Clutch
- Marlin 4.7 t-case (supposedly, I have not verified)
- Chromo Axle shafts (supposedly)
- 5. something gears in the axle
- $500 and I drove it on the trailer

The Bad
- Shatty body, seriously shatty, I mean I walked away from the thing at a G and the guy texted me on my way home bad. No windshield, crappy seat, etc...
- "New Fuel Cell" as reported by owner. In Dayton, Tx a new fuel cell is a boat gas tank...
- 35" tires, granted they hold air, the 2 front are Truxus, the rears are Mickey Thompson's, pretty old, pretty shatty
- Mini Truck axles, guy says he has never broke anything, but they look like toothpicks.
- Feeling that you know what c0ck tastes like because you own a toyota...

KrazyKarl02
01-28-2012, 09:52 PM
Seriously, you can not type l o l u x??? Anyways here are some pictures.
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01-28-2012, 09:57 PM
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01-28-2012, 09:58 PM
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jasonjuch
01-28-2012, 10:01 PM
haha i like the stadium seating in the back

KrazyKarl02
01-28-2012, 10:01 PM
So what is the plan with this vehicle? I am going to remove the crappy seats from the back, put a cooler in, and wheel the piss out of it!

I am planning on going to Down South Off Road in Crosby tomorrow (Sunday 1/29) if anyone wants to hang out!

jasonjuch
01-28-2012, 10:03 PM
looks like chevy 63 springs in the back with toyota shackle attached to chevy shackle

KrazyKarl02
01-28-2012, 10:06 PM
Accurate, previous owner said chevy springs. I guess this dual shackle thing is a normal yota thing?

jasonjuch
01-28-2012, 10:07 PM
ya a lot of guys do it.. if you dont like it i can trade you my shackles and I'll run them.. I haven't heard anything bad about them

sam_hodnett
01-28-2012, 10:35 PM
I am so envious

MR.ZAP
01-28-2012, 10:52 PM
I am so envious

Why? You've got sweet ass spooby!

TdmayfieldIV
01-28-2012, 11:46 PM
Spooby is 10x more Badass

KrazyKarl02
01-29-2012, 12:08 AM
Spooby is 10x more Badass

Umm, this runs and I am going to wheel it tomorrow.... I will give you Spooby is unique and I think could be a keeper rig. This is fun and made for re-sale...

TdmayfieldIV
01-29-2012, 12:19 AM
Umm, this runs and I am going to wheel it tomorrow

Exactly. Spooby is so fun because of it's potential. Not what it is. Once we have it wheeling it will lose it's charm.

the ***ux is a rig for when the klogger is getting a new body?

KrazyKarl02
01-29-2012, 12:58 AM
essentially....

FJAggie07
01-29-2012, 09:05 AM
Can you fit inside of it? Those old single cabs were tight, and my big ass couldn't drive em. No matter what, great deal man. And don't discount those axles they can be built strong. I run a Toyota front axle in my buggy with a 22re powering dual Toyota cases turning 39" BFG stickies.

KrazyKarl02
01-29-2012, 08:00 PM
So took it out to downsouth this afternoon. Here are the goods and the bads

Goods:
Drove off the trailer
Drove on the trailer

Bads:
Not locked in the front :(
Not locked in the rear :mad:
Very doubtful it has gears in the case or axle :eek:
Does not have power steering, watch your thumbs
While it never would not start, I had to jiggle the wires to the fuel pump a couple times
Got hot a few times, not sure if this is a problem, because it got hot after I was bumping it and dumping the clutch off the rev limiter....
Suspension is rougher than ****, I need to take the overloads out of the leafs
Tires on it suck for mud

So, essentially it is a running 22R toyota for $500, it is not as great a deal as I thought, but I think it is still ok for $500.

Oh and the rear seats fell out 10 minutes in....

jasonjuch
01-29-2012, 10:35 PM
i may have an extra power steering pump layin around, i have two 22re's in parts in my garage. I'm still running a toyota ps pump on my chevy engine

BroncoJo
01-29-2012, 10:47 PM
So, essentially it is a running 22R toyota for $500, it is not as great a deal as I thought, but I think it is still ok for $500.

Oh and the rear seats fell out 10 minutes in....


So basically the redneck took you? :flipoff2: When I bought spooby I knew it wasn't a good deal from the start!

KrazyKarl02
01-29-2012, 11:05 PM
I had thoughts that it was not "geared", it is not as a good deal as I thought, but it is still a running, driving, four wheel drive for $500.

Jason, Do you have the brackets for the pump?

robertf03
01-29-2012, 11:19 PM
does the blue top at least hold a charge?

sam_hodnett
01-29-2012, 11:22 PM
When I bought spooby I knew it wasn't a good deal from the start!

:flipoff2:

jasonjuch
01-30-2012, 12:51 AM
I had thoughts that it was not "geared", it is not as a good deal as I thought, but it is still a running, driving, four wheel drive for $500.

Jason, Do you have the brackets for the pump?

I know I do its just a matter of finding where I layed them in the garage. I'll check next time I go back to Austin

KrazyKarl02
01-30-2012, 08:57 AM
does the blue top at least hold a charge?

Yes, it is less than a month old.


I know I do its just a matter of finding where I layed them in the garage. I'll check next time I go back to Austin

That would be excellent...

davido
01-30-2012, 02:19 PM
That's sweet! I was looking at it thinking of it for a 4-seater buggy platform... but that sounded too much like work. :) But Formula Toy bodies are made for those frames.

I can't believe you got it for that cheap though. That's a smoking deal. If it has a "Marlin" I usually think dual cases. So it would be obvious with the two shifters. Not side by side like a Stack/Atlas, but a second one about a foot back from the other. I guess they could regear a single case also. I'm not in that circle much anymore.

If I would have known (and had not stayed up until 5AM the night before), I would have come down and wheeled with you on the maiden voyage.

KrazyKarl02
03-04-2012, 09:34 PM
So this thing flexes like crap, I don't understand it, all the toyota fegs beat off to these chevy 63" springs, but on this thing it flexes like crap, do you guys think the overloads could be f'ing it up that much, I'll pull the overloads off, but I just don't think it will improve that much...

jasonjuch
03-04-2012, 11:54 PM
mine works... maybe yours has an add a leaf or something?

KrazyKarl02
05-22-2012, 09:53 PM
Llantas!! Need ya'lls opinion, the 35's on it suck, no tread, I picked up some 33X14.50 swampers with about 40% tread, with these I could weld the front and rear and pretty well rock out and not worry about breaking shafts too often. Or I also have some 37X12.50 Goodyear MTR's I used to roll on the Klogger. They have probably 80% tread, but I am worried if I locked the front I would break shafts all the time. I am leaning towards the 37 because they are bigger and with more tread, but afraid if I run stock birf's/shafts I will break shat left and right. Thoughts?

From left to right 33" Swamper, 35" I-suck, 37" MTR
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Tread on the 33"
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Tread or lack there of on the 35"
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Tread on the 37", mucho bueno
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33 vs 37 tread
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AggieTJ2007
05-22-2012, 09:57 PM
i would go with the 37s

KrazyKarl02
05-22-2012, 10:11 PM
I am leaning that way, but also leaning towards welding the front, any yota people have experience, think it will break shafts non stop?

jasonjuch
05-22-2012, 10:17 PM
I have 37s on mine. Ive talked to a lot of people about breaking shafts and it came down to this, the guys that looked like they would break shafts end up breaking hubs and shafts even when upgraded,, the other guys that are more calm have told me they have wheeled for years on stock parts and large tires. I took mine to clayton and bought two spare birfs from Fjaggie and never used them. Just broke my aluminum blocks. I see guys breaking hubs more than anything else on the toyotas and thats why the factory hubs are going up in price all over if you can even find them, the best way I found is just buy IFS hubs from ebay or guys that are throwing them out for cheap ($20) and then buy the $60 chromoly hub gear from marlin crawler (I think) and that converts the IFS hub to a chromoly solid axle hub. Thats how my spares are sitting right now but I dont want to put them in because I want to keep the hub the weakest link..

jasonjuch
05-22-2012, 10:19 PM
*my rear is welded but not the front.

eight
05-22-2012, 10:49 PM
Put on the 33s and weld the rear. What's the height difference between the 33s and 35s? The 37s may be taller but MTRs suck, you like TSLs, TSLs kick ass. I bet that worn 33 TSL will out do the 37 MTR in loose stuff. Sell the 37s and use funds to purchase some of those cheap ass T-case gears available for these things.

BroncoJo
05-23-2012, 12:45 AM
I like the tread measurement on the 35's

FJAggie07
05-23-2012, 06:34 AM
I would like to think that I could help on this but I have no clue honestly. I had my Tacoma with 37's snap shafts all the time (3 in a year) while my buggy on 39" stickies hasn't snapped one yet. All of the shafts were upgraded aftermarket stuff too. The front end was/is locked in both as well. I think the main difference is weight and power. The Tacoma was so much heavier and the v6 had so much more guts then the 22re in the buggy it just added to the stress. So hopefully my ramblings have helped in some small way.

tommy53002
05-23-2012, 08:01 AM
I vote run the 33's. I have not been impressed with MTR's in mud. If you aren't happy with them, try the 37's later.

BroncoJo
05-23-2012, 09:56 AM
What's the wheel size on the 37?

KrazyKarl02
05-23-2012, 10:15 PM
15" rim

BroncoJo
05-23-2012, 11:06 PM
Want to sell?

KrazyKarl02
05-24-2012, 10:53 PM
Not really, what size and type tires you got on that Bronco?

BroncoJo
05-24-2012, 11:26 PM
Not really, what size and type tires you got on that Bronco?

5 buckshot mudders 33x12.50 15's, want to trade?

stx4wheeler
05-25-2012, 02:38 PM
You know my opinion 33's welded front and rear. This thing doesn't have gears so 37's are pushing it. Plus you know that the tsl's will work better in the mud and sand than the mtr. The only thing and mtr sucks worse than in the mud is an irok.

KrazyKarl02
06-04-2012, 09:00 PM
Tire problem solved, I will be selling the 37's for $400, and the 33's for $250, all of them come with rims.

My solution, I present the 35-10.50 bogger :cool:

BroncoJo
06-04-2012, 10:02 PM
Nice!

tommy53002
06-04-2012, 10:04 PM
In true DSO fashion. Now if you can just get that front drive shaft to stay on!

DRAGOONRANCH
06-04-2012, 10:49 PM
Hell yeah!

Oh, and I know a guy that does one hellufa groovin job on boggers.... :gigem:

davido
06-05-2012, 07:14 AM
My solution, I present the 35-10.50 bogger :cool:

Nice, what could possibly go wrong? :)



In true DSO fashion.

Me?

tommy53002
06-05-2012, 09:41 AM
Me?

DSO = down south Offroad park

davido
06-05-2012, 02:09 PM
Ah, that makes more sense. I didn't think you knew my initials. :D

Seth
06-06-2012, 12:29 AM
I like it! Much better than the other two options.

David - I was also kind of confused :)

KrazyKarl02
06-18-2012, 09:39 PM
Pulled the 3rd out to instal the po-locka, found out some interesting stuff:

Rear gears 4.38's :)
Transfer Case has stock gears 2.2 something :(
Slip shaft in rear driveshaft is locked up, I guess it is an anti-wrap bar... :eek:

FJAggie07
06-18-2012, 10:57 PM
Pulled the 3rd out to instal the po-locka, found out some interesting stuff:

Rear gears 4.38's :)
Transfer Case has stock gears 2.2 something :(
Slip shaft in rear driveshaft is locked up, I guess it is an anti-wrap bar... :eek:

Did you mean 4.88's? The options should have been something like 3.73, 4.10, 4.56, 4.88, or 5.29's.

KrazyKarl02
07-13-2012, 08:10 PM
Yup, 4.38's

Question, I got the axles out to put some seals in em, while I was at it I cleaned them up. Here is the question, should I paint them "Grabber Green" again, or go back with a flat black?

Options

A) Grave Digger Rulez, I love Grabber Green
B) I don't have a mullet, Paint em flat black

TdmayfieldIV
07-13-2012, 10:03 PM
Option C: grow a mullet and paint them grabber green.

KrazyKarl02
07-13-2012, 10:04 PM
Well Mayfield has chimed in, I will wait for Travis, Creighton, Hot Pocket, and Sam to chime in. They appear to be the only ones left on this board.....

AggieTJ2007
07-13-2012, 10:11 PM
i wouldn't bother painting them at all but if i did black or blue

KrazyKarl02
07-13-2012, 10:14 PM
blue?

BroncoJo
07-13-2012, 10:20 PM
Purple

tommy53002
07-13-2012, 10:31 PM
Go with the green.

KrazyKarl02
07-13-2012, 11:07 PM
So of the 5 people that look on this board, 2 said grabber green and 2 said they love the cak.....

Shaggy
07-13-2012, 11:14 PM
Black

bcolman
07-13-2012, 11:19 PM
Black, or buy a mullet wig and go green

CheapJeep
07-14-2012, 12:36 AM
Grave Digger rulez.....(posted to prove I'm still on the board)

mudtoy67
07-14-2012, 05:40 AM
Yup, 4.38's

Question, I got the axles out to put some seals in em, while I was at it I cleaned them up. Here is the question, should I paint them "Grabber Green" again, or go back with a flat black?

Options

A) Grave Digger Rulez, I love Grabber Green
B) I don't have a mullet, Paint em flat black

Grabber Green. I've seen your driveway...mullet not required. :flipoff2:

DRAGOONRANCH
07-14-2012, 07:37 AM
Grabber Green. I've seen your driveway...mullet not required. :flipoff2:

:gigem:

bburris
07-14-2012, 08:53 AM
I think the Cadillac gold and posey pink paint scheme worked pretty well for my Jeep, maybe bring that back?

85cj7
07-14-2012, 10:10 AM
Grave Digger rulez.....(posted to prove I'm still on the board)

x2

sam_hodnett
07-14-2012, 01:00 PM
Grabber Green!

And I second growing the mullet, it would really fit in at alto this year :gigem:

davido
07-16-2012, 02:17 PM
Black. I'm boring. That green will not look good after a few trips. Do that higher up, maybe on that giant D ring when you weld it back on. That way you can find the tow point when it's buried up to it's windows in Alto in October.

BTW, that thing looks super sweet now that you took those crappy sides off the bed. Great work! :D

Sparling
07-16-2012, 02:32 PM
save the fancy paint for something that wont be covered in **** for the next decade or until it gets sent to China to make new Toyota body panels

TexTJ209
07-16-2012, 08:22 PM
Safety orange

Hellbent
07-17-2012, 02:13 PM
red white and blue

KrazyKarl02
07-18-2012, 11:04 PM
Ok, WTF is this? First picture is the axle seal on the left that keeps oil from the diff to spilling out the axle shaft, to the right is the mystery part. The second picture is a close up. Frick and I were knocking the oil seal out using the VonBroom technique, this is where you stick a broom through the opposite side then knock the the axle seal out, and this thing knocked out from the inner side. That is to say it came from the knuckle to the 3rd member. When we did the opposite side we found the other one, so their was one on each side???? It is bigger than the seal by like 3/8" and can not be installed throught the knuckle side, it has to be put in through the 3rd member hole.

It is elliptical or the hole is off center, and there is a small like weeping hole on one side? WTF is it? Hippy did not know via phone, neither did BDR.

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jasonjuch
07-19-2012, 07:31 PM
its nothing from the knuckle. maybe your previous owner forced them into the axle tube as some kind of axle guide or something? I don't see any reason for it being there since you had the third member all the way out and everything is contained on that.

KrazyKarl02
07-19-2012, 11:20 PM
Talked to hippy, BDR, Schubring, and Luis, all who know a hell of a lot more than me. None could identify it???

TdmayfieldIV
07-19-2012, 11:57 PM
Probably to make it easier to put the shaft in. I would think it serves as a baffle to keep most of the oil in the third member so the seal has less of a chance to leak. The weep hole in the bottom is probably so the oil that does get past it doesn't just sit there.

TexTJ209
07-20-2012, 12:12 AM
How the hell is Eric? Haven't heard from his smelly hippy ass in forever.

eight
07-20-2012, 10:55 PM
He's back in Houston now, finally moved in with his wife.

colman
07-21-2012, 04:04 AM
what hippyis in houston awesome time to get a beer....

KrazyKarl02
09-01-2012, 11:39 PM
F'ing toyota gayness!!! Go to put the front axle back together and I notice the axle shaft is way off to one side. The damn axle housing is bent!!!19257

Sharpe
09-01-2012, 11:43 PM
Why is your jackstand grabber green?

RCcola55
09-01-2012, 11:55 PM
Lay some bead one the opposite side it should straighten

TdmayfieldIV
09-02-2012, 02:03 AM
It's ****ed. Sell it!!!

KrazyKarl02
09-02-2012, 01:57 PM
Why is your jackstand grabber green?

Grabber green is so awesome it gets on everything it touches, just like the HIV

DRAGOONRANCH
09-02-2012, 03:18 PM
Boy howdy, and the HIV is sure hard to wash off....

KrazyKarl02
09-04-2012, 09:36 AM
So thanks to the Hippy, I know have a new to me axle housing. Here is a question for you guys, using the interweb it looks like these housings bend pretty frequently, my axle might have actually been bent from when the axle truss was welded on. When they bend while driving it is usually from doing sweet ass jumps, and it usually bends out by the knuckle where most truss's do not support. So here are the questions:

1) Should I cut the "Toyota" truss I have off and carefully weld it to the new housing. This obviously strengthens the housing, but it does nothing to prevent bending out by the knuckle. Also if I do not weld it properly I run the risk of bending this housing???

2) Should I put some trusses/re-inforcement at the knuckle. Marlin Crawler sells this kit,

http://www.marlincrawler.com/axle/front-axle-parts/front-axle-armor/heavy-duty-knuckle-gusset-kit

but I think I could cut a simple brace out of steel and weld it on.

3) Or should I just say, f'it and put it in as is?

davido
09-04-2012, 09:51 AM
My vote, you're probably fine, but if you're concerned about it, do all of it now and be done with it. Not sure if Scott ever had a brace. If not, you probably don't need one. :)

jasonjuch
09-04-2012, 05:23 PM
I use lowrangeoffroad.com, i feel their prices are cheaper than marlin or trail gear. And I have the knuckle gusset kit and diff cover because I hear they're worth it. I never did the upper axle gusset because I have that factory lower one.