Clayton Christmas Carnage - '14!

[mudtoy67]

2nd week of September and no thread? Someone is slacking. :flipoff2:

Finals are over on the 17th, so following tradition CCC 2014 would be December 19-21.

Link to last year's trip thread:
http://www.tamor.org/forums/showthread.php?12660-Clayton-Christmas-Carnage-13


Hotels: *Note the A&A is TAMOR's recomended lodging choice...

Phone Numbers

A&A Motel (918) 569-4101

Clayton Country Inn (918) 569-4165

Sardis Motel (918) 569-4665


ROLL CALL

Person, Rig, Leaving From, Leaving Date, Passenger

BDR, XJ, Waller, Thursday
Karl, Scout? Jeep?, thursday
Jones, Holy Scrambler
Fred, Lurch
JB, Jeep
Cook, the Monster Truck Show, thursday
Robbie, BarnBurner, thursday, DON'T FORGET THE NITROUS! :)
Creighton, TJthatwas
Sam, Scout, Paris, Thursday
Busa, new buggy, Thursday
The Schubrings, the pink jeep and the new buggy, thursday
Seth? Seth!
Evan, altomaster I'm sure :)
Seacrest, Jeep, Sofia
Kyle, Jeep, Paris
Tummy, Bronca?
Sparling?


Passengers:
Sharpe?
CJneedtofixmyXJ :flipoff2:
Clarke, 'Shine, Friday
Courtney, Friday
Rowdy? #hideyokids-hideyowives :eek:


People who suck:

Jerry!
Frick
BColman

[bcolman]

I'll be there with my ranger, most likely leaving Houston on Thursday

[Shaggy]

Not coming this year. Tatertot #3 due that week and in my cousin's wedding that weekend. I'll be there in spirit though. Who wants to go in Nov?

[Fredo]

I'll be there with my ranger, most likely leaving Houston on Thursday

Have you fixed this thing yet, or are you just going to hope that it runs better in the cold weather? :flipoff2:

I'm in.

[JB]

In

[bcolman]

Have you fixed this thing yet, or are you just going to hope that it runs better in the cold weather? :flipoff2:

I'm in.

The fix is in the works. I should have it figured out in the next 2 weeks or so.

[Hellbent]

Ill be there!

[85cj7]

Sofia and I are in.

[kyle]

I'll tag along again, had a good time last year!

If anyone wants to go before then holler at me, it's only an hour away for me. We have a group in Paris that normally go 1-2 times a month.

[TdmayfieldIV]

If the bronca has its new 360 in it, sparling and I will go with that. If not, diesel smoke inferior bronco will be there.

[Sparling]

Only if you tow bro.

[sam_hodnett]

Ill be there

Leaving from Paris with the scout on Thursday.

[Busa]

I should be there. May try to go Thursday night.

[JB]

Have room Thurs-Sat.

[sasquatch]

In for Thurs night to Sun as usual. Bringing the Mechanical Asshole.

[cjwiththexj]

I'm for sure going. Had a great time last year. I'll probably drive up there but will need a trail seat. WILL BE BRINGING TEXAS BEER. I'm not drinkin that inferior OK beer...

[CheapJeep]

In with the BarnBurner for Thursday-Sunday

[AggieTJ2007]

In with the jeep.

[bcolman]

room reserved at A&A, leaving Thursday afternoon from Houston, towing my Ranger

[RCcola55]

I'll be there Friday evening. Will have a few bottles of my finest White Dog with me.

[redcagepatrol]

We are in of course. Should have the buggy complete for me and also Lynda's rig.

[Court123]

I'm in. I have a room with an extra bed at A&A Fri-sun but I need a trail seat! :)

[aggie4life]

The officers would like to gauge interest for a Clayton T-shirt, Please go fill out the survey so we have a rough estimate of the number/kind of shirts we should order.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/NPFXYFK

[TdmayfieldIV]

Not trying to be a dick, but......

There has always and will always be a clayton shirt. It's not a matter of IF, but what. Most people who go want a shirt. Most people have one from every year they have been.

Just post up some design ideas and let everyone decide. We have generally sold them for $20-$25.

[KrazyKarl02]

Not trying to be a dick, but......

There has always and will always be a clayton shirt. It's not a matter of IF, but what. Most people who go want a shirt. Most people have one from every year they have been.

Just post up some design ideas and let everyone decide. We have generally sold them for $20-$25.


Not trying to be a dick, but.....

There was not one made last year, we sold left overs from 2012!

[jerryg79]

Am trying to be a dick.

There hasnt been a club sponsored tshirt in 2 yrs.

[aggie4life]

Not trying to be a dick, but.....

There was not one made last year, we sold left overs from 2012!


Am trying to be a dick.

There hasnt been a club sponsored tshirt in 2 yrs.

That's why the survey was created so we can get one made this year.

[TdmayfieldIV]

Am trying to be a dick.

There hasnt been a club sponsored tshirt in 2 yrs.

The point was that there needs to be a shirt every year. Last year the officers dropped the ball.

[Fredo]

I'm in. I have a room with an extra bed at A&A Fri-sun but I need a trail seat! :)

I will trade trail seat and ride from Dallas area for room in a bed.

[Seth]

Does this mean I have to bring the scout?

[Shaggy]

Well the Dr said the new baby will likely be born 12/5. My cousin's wedding is 12/13. This looks like it could possibly happen. I don't know if my wife would leave me or not if I leave her home with 3 kids one being only 2 weeks old. I went to TCC the week after our last was born and still hear about it. I am not saying I am in. I am just saying it is a possibility. If at all possible I will bring the Busa jeep. I haven't had it out anywhere too exciting yet. And the Tate Jeep needs a new air shock and some TLC.

[Shaggy]

I just got an update from Elise. Turns out I don't listen very well. Dr said the 15th. That is going to decrease my chances. Dang.

[Sparling]

Darn it

[JB]

bump. Great trip. Get your reservations now.

[Shaggy]

Baby tate small small again. Dr moved date to 12/2 at the latest. If she is healthy this trip will be possible again.

[Busa]

The new buggy is ready to go. I will be headed that way Thursday morning.

[KrazyKarl02]

Kick ass!

[redcagepatrol]

The new buggy is ready to go. I will be headed that way Thursday morning.

I hope to have mine ready to! just waiting on the chassis and lots of luck!

[mudtoy67]

updated first post, put in vacation request today!

[Weeble]

Who's got an extra floor space at the A&A for me to crash on?

-Jeff

[bcolman]

If I make it I will Jeff

[Weeble]

Cool, have you already reserved a hotel room?

[bcolman]

I have, Thursday to Sunday

[85cj7]

http://www.lsjc.org/board/showthread.php?73016-Trail-closed-at-Green-Acres

[kyle]

http://www.lsjc.org/board/showthread.php?73016-Trail-closed-at-Green-Acres

True... some of our group that was leaving later sunday afternoon said there were a couple of guys blocking off the main road where you drop into KT's climb..you can still run Jeff's ledges but that big ass water hole will probably stop anyone from going any further...the way it looks its everything on the right side...gaspers goo, waterfall, etc...

got a friend calling Rudy today to see what we need to do to make sure it stays open

[Busa]

So what can we wheel

[kyle]

Doesn't sound like Rudy is too worried about it and thinks it will pass pretty quick?

Knowing him he'll probably go up there and tear down the ropes and chains to keep business flowing. If the chains stay, the only thing you can't get to immediately is waterfall and gaspers goo that are right off the main road on the right...should still be able to get to everything else though.

It's not the trash that is causing this, just an excuse for the owners of the other land. Sounds like they are having to use the main road as an easement. Apparently after the place was logged the owners sold and new owners are the problem??? Don't know if its for hunting or more potential logging?

The place was pretty clean this past weekend..didn't come across any "piles" at all. Maybe a can or 2 and everyone we were with always picks up ours and others.

[JB]

Man that sucks. Will be sure to pick up as much as we see. Pretty excited. Jeep needs some work over the next couple of weeks.

[kyle]

Copied from Shain Brown on FB.


I just spoke to Rudy down at green acres in Clayton.
THERE IS ONLY AN ISSUE WITH THE LANDOWNER OF THE PROPERTY BETWEEN GASPERS GOO
& WATERFALL ALONG THE ACCESS ROAD PARALLEL TO JEFF'S LEDGES!!!!
According to Rudy, this other LANDOWNER has put his ropes & signs to far over from the surveyed property lines.
Rudy also stated that he is NOT UPSET with any situation regarding the
trash on his property. He stated that he feels that everyone DOES
RESPECT his property. If you do go wheeling there, just be mindful and
pack out your trash & pick up any extra trash if your parked on the
trail.
Rudy is not selling any of his property.
If you
do go down there and need to use the access road for a rig rescue or an
emergency, just move the ropes if possible and twice them. I would
suggest that until this LAND DISPUTE BETWEEN RUDY AND THE OTHER PROPERTY
OWNER is finalized through their legal actions, let's be mindful that
it isn't our business.
Simply just use Jeffs ledges to go that way.
I'll try to answer any questions if needed. Please share to your wheeling groups.

[JB]

So basically where we get out onto the access Rd in order to bypass the deep water hole, then we drop right back in....that is where the access Rd is blocked? So it's blocked from there all the way to the creek crossing/green mamba start?

[kyle]

Its blocked at the entrance of KT's climb from what they told me..there is another outlet right before the water hole so we can get out and right back in unless the guy set up land mines or something

[AggieTJ2007]

Club food for Clayton?

[Fredo]

Since Jimmy isn't going to be there, I think I might take over cooking responsibilities for the group meal saturday night but would definitely welcome some help.

One problem I see with this is I currently do not even have a room reserved, much less a kitchenette.

[85cj7]

Since Jimmy isn't going to be there, I think I might take over cooking responsibilities for the group meal saturday night but would definitely welcome some help.

One problem I see with this is I currently do not even have a room reserved, much less a kitchenette.

Courtney has a kitchenette. Problem solved.

[sam_hodnett]

I have a kitchenette as well. All the beds have already been called, but we can use it to cook in for sure

[AggieTJ2007]

Ill help you with the food.

[Busa]

So what are we going to do about firewood. I have a lot cut but needs to be split. If we could get a few people to come help me we can split it and load it up. I also have 14 pallets that could go if someone has the room.

[Seth]

If nothing else bring it unsplit and turn sam loose on it.

[Sparling]

That didn't turn out so well last year

[Busa]

I am not going to load it by myself.

[JB]

One week! Get your **** together!

[85cj7]

Not sure how accurate this may be:

http://www.lsjc.org/board/showthread.php?73016-Trail-closed-at-Green-Acres/page2

Update found on Pirate...
Green Acres is still going strong. Clayton wants and needs your business. However, it is NOT business as usual at Green Acres. Rudy graciously provides the front door for crawling in this area, however, he does not own all of the land that has been used by crawlers over the years. "Official boundaries from the courthouse" have been located on the ground by registered surveyors. These boundaries are marked by orange flags and posts. Southeastern Oklahoma Land Company has surveyed the property near Green Acres and it is in the process of selling acreage to the east of this area. The portions on which Jeff's Ledges and 8 Point are located, as well as the eastern entrance to Black Sheep Blvd., has been purchased by Angels Camp. Access to the main trail and all tributary trails at the north end of Wet n' Wild is no longer allowed. Access to the creek paralleling this trail is also prohibited. ALL OTHER TRAILS ARE STILL OPEN. To keep you safe and to keep you from trespassing, we have posted yellow signs marking the closed trails and property. The yellow ropes are on private property, and their destruction and/or removal is certainly trespassing, and could be criminal mischief. Yes, garbage did have something to do with this decision. So did the destruction of the vegetation which controlled erosion. Likewise, oil and beer cans in the creek would make any conscientious landowner want to deny access. Keep in mind, since Rudy never owned this property, no one ever had permission to enter this property to begin with. If you need to access Green Mamba please do so via Flag Pole Road or one of the western trails. However, it is my understanding that Green Mamba is also not situated on land owned by Rudy, so someone may need to find the owner and get permission to continue using that area. Angels Camp knows that most of the readers of this post really do care about the trails. However, there are many (probably NOT reading this post) who don't care if they crawl in garbage, and therefore, they should go crawl at the city dump. As fellow members of Pirate4x4, we must take responsibility for policing our fellow crawlers or lose more trails. Please, let us all enjoy this wilderness area by keeping it clean, staying on the trails, and staying off of property where we do not have permission to roam.

[mudtoy67]

PBB thread has maps and info from the land company.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/usa-south-central/1920041-trail-closed-green-acres-clayton-oklahoma-2.html#post29201834

[redcagepatrol]

well that sucks

[mudtoy67]

So, looking at the map in the pbb thread...

Looks like it affects Jeff's Ledges starting just above the drop-in at the air strip, through the area at the bottom of 8 Point and Blacksheep (including the first obstacle of blacksheep), up to just before Green Mamba, and the access road to the east, and the crazy trails up the side of the mountain to the east. Then also the corner may cross Walter's Mule Road just above Green Mamba.

If Walter's Mule road is cut off there, I think that means we would have to go up the mountain at the air strip and come down the one where the entrance is by GM Extension entrance (Walk in the Park?) to get to Green Mamba and GM Extension?

[CheapJeep]

That post on Pirate is kind of suspicious, especially if they're involved in a legal dispute.

We'll find out soon enough what trails are affected once we get there. I'm going to remain optimistic until then.


Copied from Shain Brown on FB.


I just spoke to Rudy down at green acres in Clayton.
THERE IS ONLY AN ISSUE WITH THE LANDOWNER OF THE PROPERTY BETWEEN GASPERS GOO
& WATERFALL ALONG THE ACCESS ROAD PARALLEL TO JEFF'S LEDGES!!!!
According to Rudy, this other LANDOWNER has put his ropes & signs to far over from the surveyed property lines.
Rudy also stated that he is NOT UPSET with any situation regarding the
trash on his property. He stated that he feels that everyone DOES
RESPECT his property. If you do go wheeling there, just be mindful and
pack out your trash & pick up any extra trash if your parked on the
trail.
Rudy is not selling any of his property.
If you
do go down there and need to use the access road for a rig rescue or an
emergency, just move the ropes if possible and twice them. I would
suggest that until this LAND DISPUTE BETWEEN RUDY AND THE OTHER PROPERTY
OWNER is finalized through their legal actions, let's be mindful that
it isn't our business.
Simply just use Jeffs ledges to go that way.
I'll try to answer any questions if needed. Please share to your wheeling groups.

[CheapJeep]

Oh and since I always intend to print a map to bring with me but never do.....


Click on the pic or follow the link below for larger size.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v404/blink05/Clayton%202014/323418880_koRHR-XXXL_zps92b9a1bb.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/blink05/media/Clayton%202014/323418880_koRHR-XXXL_zps92b9a1bb.jpg.html)


http://blacksheep4x4.smugmug.com/photos/323418880_koRHR-XXXL.jpg

[JB]

Less then a week to go and nothing about the biggest run of the year on the TAMOR facebook or Instagram. Assuming we will see very few new faces this year.

[aggie4life]

We have been talking in up in meetings. The problem is most of officers have a SO or famity graduating. I no jeff is gonna be there with his XJ.

[JB]

Looks like it's going to be rainy

[robertf03]

So I'm bad with directions. Is the only way in up that twisty dirt mountain road and not through the creek bed? If so, with rain that road will be unusable after 4 vehicles

[KrazyKarl02]

We have been talking in up in meetings. The problem is most of officers have a SO or famity graduating. I no jeff is gonna be there with his XJ.

I can see how all of those points must make the Internet and therefore Facebook and instagram unusable.

[JB]

I gawt front locka coming in Monday. Anyone have spare 30 shafts you can bring me?

[colman]

I have one side. Not sure which. I'll look tomorrow.

[KrazyKarl02]

I gawt front locka coming in Monday. Anyone have spare 30 shafts you can bring me?

If you act quick. You can buy these and get them shipped.

http://www.hardlinecrawlers.com/forums/index.php?topic=37628.0

[Shaggy]

I have a bunch of 30 shafts. Anyone coming through Victoria?

[AggieTJ2007]

I have one or two. I gave most of mine to BDR

dont forget to put a 36mm socket in yout toolbag. You need it to get the axle nut off.

[Hellbent]

I have one or two. I gave most of mine to BDR

dont forget to put a 36mm socket in yout toolbag. You need it to get the axle nut off.

So he just needs to put it in his pocket?

[mudtoy67]

I gawt front locka coming in Monday. Anyone have spare 30 shafts you can bring me?

I've got two short sides, one with a unit bearing, I can bring.

[bcolman]

Due to not enough time to get ready and work stuff coming up I will not be able to make it this year. I will be canceling my reservation after the meeting I am in so there will be a room available at the A&A.

[mudtoy67]

I spoke with the chick at Freiling's in case anyone wants to go. They are open this weekend. 10 bucks per rig and we just need to give them a call before heading that way so they can open the gate.

Frieling's info

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Frielings-4x4-Park/161069060711826?sk=timeline

3158 SE 216th Rd
Talihina, Oklahoma
(918) 448-4006

[85cj7]

Flem and I were talking about this. . . .

Thanks for the contact info.


I spoke with the chick at Freiling's in case anyone wants to go. They are open this weekend. 10 bucks per rig and we just need to give them a call before heading that way so they can open the gate.

Frieling's info

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Frielings-4x4-Park/161069060711826?sk=timeline

3158 SE 216th Rd
Talihina, Oklahoma
(918) 448-4006

[Fredo]

Due to not enough time to get ready and work stuff coming up I will not be able to make it this year. I will be canceling my reservation after the meeting I am in so there will be a room available at the A&A.

Boo this man!

That sucks dude...

[Court123]

Are we wanting to go to the bed and breakfast for chicken fried steak Friday night? If so, post so Sofia can call and give them a heads up. Hopefully they won't run out this year!

[Sharpe]

Sure

[AggieTJ2007]

Are we wanting to go to the bed and breakfast for chicken fried steak Friday night? If so, post so Sofia can call and give them a heads up. Hopefully they won't run out this year!

Yes

[mudtoy67]

In for chicken fried

[85cj7]

I gawt front locka coming in Monday. Anyone have spare 30 shafts you can bring me?

Pick them up on your way up through Dallas?
http://www.lsjc.org/board/showthread.php?73138-Dana-30-factory-shafts-with-the-unit-bearings-100-obo

[Fredo]

It is far too quiet around here for being "Clayton Eve"

[sam_hodnett]

Scout is loaded, Have to throw my **** in my truck, go get hamish, load kyles jeep and then Ill be on my way.

[mudtoy67]

Leaving magnolia. Northbound!

[JB]

Great trip. That drive home gets longer every year.

[robertf03]

Great trip. That drive home gets longer every year.


Not with the 4.6. Pretty sure I set a record

good times

[sam_hodnett]

Had a blast, WTWE was funny, red beans and rice were excellent, and the company was great.

[Weeble]

Dana 30 luck only goes so far...

[mudtoy67]

Scheisse! :eek:

[KrazyKarl02]

Bravo sir! you proper f'd that thing.

Don't scrap it, JB weld it!

[TdmayfieldIV]

I'm impressed

[Fredo]

That's nice.

Hey, who was it that took the pic of Lurch right before the left front chromo shaft exploded in sparks and flying debris? I'd like a copy of it.

[KrazyKarl02]

Trip Report:

Carnage:

Weeble - Dana 30 Diff Housing - Impressive
Robbie - Broken Steering Knuckle - Repaired by Slim, Shattered leaf spring on front passenger side, attached winch cable and drove out
Jones - Broke a rear leaf spring at the eye, luckily he has the frenched in pockets in the frame and the thing sat down in that and was able to get off the trail and he had a spare and replaced
Karl - Toasted a starter on the trailer, Broke a long side inner on the scout Friday afternoon, replaced, wheeled Saturday, gear shifting is now questionable
Fred - Ball Joint, Axle shaft, repaired Friday night
Creighton - Axle Shaft and Gas Tank
BDR - Rear Glass and several contents of a center console

Summary:

Headed up Thursday evening, upon arrival found that Schubring, Busa, and Robbie had gone night wheeling. Robbie broke his knuckle on Slim's Slope that night. He pulled it, took it to Slim's shop and had him weld and plate it over night.

Friday morning everyone hit green acres. The main access road being off limits makes it kind of a pain, but the only trails it really impacts are Jeff's Ledges, 8 point, and black sheep. Right off the bat my solenoid hung and toasted my starter, Went to Napa while everyone else was getting unloaded and replaced. We ran the creek trail as far as we could and Heath noticed he was losing steering fluid. We found he had reinstalled his ram incorrectly and had damaged a fitting. Jones and him ran to Napa, got a replacement fitting and we went up the mountain. We ran a couple of trails (Zig Zag, backside Loop, Gully Washer, etc.....) and found Slim's Slope. We also ran into Fred, BDR, Creighton, and others taking the loop trail. About 10' into Slim's Slope I blew a long side inner. Luckily BDR was able to winch me to the other trail and Creighton was able to "power pull" me thru the rest. While we did that Jones and Heath continued running Slim's Slope. This is where Jones broke a rear leaf spring and from what I gather seperated ihs rear driveshaft. They got it sucked back up and together somehow, maybe Jones can expand on this. We got back down off the mountain and proceeded to perform repairs. I found the inside of the Scout axle to be mainly filled with mud instead of grease...

Saturday we got up bright and early and hit the trail again. BDR, Flem, and some others hit Freilings, I would be curious as to their summary of that park. The group I was with ran Green Mamba, Green Mamba Extension, and Walk in the Park. Going up Walk in the park my shifter linkage pin fell out and I had to Zip Tie it back in place. Cook assisted by putting a more permanent cotter pin in the linkage. At that point we met up with Creighton, Kyle, Fred, Cook, etc... and ran Walter's Mule Road back down and re-ran green mamba. Then we went to run Cake Walk. At some point in there my Scout would no longer go in to Drive without stepping out and pushing the shift tab on the side of the trans into Drive, so Jones and I peeled off back to the trailers.


At the hotel there was red beans and rice and WTWE. I think the highlight for me was either a full stand up copier that was destroyed by an axe or the "pocket va jay jay" named "Janine" that someone slammed into Tum Tum's face hard enough to give him a nose bleed, leaving the latex copy of an organ bloody. Fred remembered to get the required equipment for the "CJ pass around" and we performed that ceremony. I did my best to come up with a few words and Scott had a good message for the group.

Please post up any pictures or links to photobucket, etc.. you have.

[robertf03]

who has the picture of seth swinging the axe at the copy machine while Robbie is purging nitrous?

[Weeble]

I've got that pic and will post it when I have better internet server.

Send your best PG-rated pics to JeffreyLBrown15@gmail.com so I can get them on our FB album.
Badass trip, great wheeling and even better company! I was pleased with how the new Cherocar build did (until the tow home of course.)

P.S. If any of y'all come across a single car trailer, hmu. Flat-towing is not the solution, kids.

[Busa]

Hear is a link to the pictures that t have. Feel free to use elsewhere.

https://picasaweb.google.com/106471954931290281813/Clayton2014

[CheapJeep]

Awesome trip as always! Really great to see everybody, wish it was more often. (Maybe we can improve attendance for TCC or another spring/summer run?) All the anticipation and preparation leading up to this trip.....man, I'm never ready for it to be over.

Karl- add broken cell phone to the list for me...haha. While carrying the entire hub, axleshaft, knuckle assembly up the mountain, I slipped and it came down on my leg right where my phone was. oops....

Busa- Thanks for posting all the pics.... I feel honored, your album starts and ends with me breaking ****....haha.


I already have new front springs and knuckles on the way.