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Krawler68
02-05-2003, 02:57 PM
I'm going to have to make a decision by the end of the week to get in line in time to make it to Mason.

I am getting a killer deal on the rims so Allied beadlock is the final decision... just not sure if I should bite the bullet and buy 17" rims... and wait for my 37" krawlers to come in... this will mean no beadlocks for the 38's for a while.

What is the concensus?

Doug

Cajun
02-05-2003, 03:09 PM
I say go for the 17" w/ 2.5" b.s. It'll give you a bit more stability with the relatively narrow Krawlers.

I'd still run the SXs for trails 'round TX.

robertf03
02-05-2003, 03:10 PM
recentered hummer wheels, 38.5x16.5 tsl's, or run the goodyears that come with the hummer wheels if they are any good.
3.75" back spacing

Krawler68
02-05-2003, 03:13 PM
robert...

only one of your 3 opinions is an option... thank you very much for nothing... :flipoff2:

I am trying to improve the lifespan of my Warn axles and CTM joints... this is all part of the quest to make my D44 live a little longer.

Keep in mind I have pretty narrow axles... less backspacing will keep me a little wider... right now with my tires and rims and wheel spacers my track width is 79"... I like the width... wouldn't mind being a few inches narrower... the 2.5" backspacing will eliminate the wheel spacers.

Doug

AgDieseler
02-05-2003, 03:55 PM
I vote ditto for the 3.75" BS. I went down from 4.25" BS to 3.5", and it makes a bigger difference than one might think. I think that 3.75" strikes that happy medium. Also, if you end up finding that you have too much BS (you know you never have a shortage:flipoff2: ), wheel spacers are an easy fix. It's easier to space a wheel out rather than in.

Krawler68
02-05-2003, 03:59 PM
true... and i already do have the 1.75" wheel spacers...

Doug

robertf03
02-05-2003, 04:08 PM
Doug, get some kumhos or mudkings and off the shelf wheels. your putting way too much thought into this. You even admitted yourself that it won't ever be a competition rig.

hummer wheels are cool cause they are street legal and i havent heard of anyone snapping studs on them. I hear of beadlock people snapping bolts on the street all the time.

Krawler68
02-05-2003, 04:16 PM
these wheels are 32 bolt wheels... Rated for 44" tires...
Nobody running them that I've talked to has had a problem. Besides I can get them half priced.

I will never un Kum-ho's you dick :flipoff2: ... I can get these Krawlers for less than a set of 35" no-names anyway, much less.
I think they'll be a little easier on my D44.

Hummer wheels won't be my first choice... I'd get them if i was going to run one ton axles.

It may never be a comp rig, but I'll probably compete irregularly on the local and club level... IE: NAARCA

Doug

eight
02-05-2003, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by Krawler68


I will never un Kum-ho's you dick :flipoff2: ... I can get these Krawlers for less than a set of 35" no-names anyway, much less.


Doug

I'll take a set for that price. I was wondering if you had shat out some big money or something.

Fredo
02-05-2003, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by Krawler68

I will never un Kum-ho's you dick :flipoff2:
Doug

I'm running a set of their Ecsta 712's on the camaro, and I love 'em. The way I look at it, they make some really badass car tires, so why not give their mud terrains a chance. They look exactly like a BFG MT but they are about $50 cheaper...I'll probably run a set on my scout just to try them out. Just a thought.

Krawler68
02-05-2003, 04:55 PM
***... Robert used to run Kumhos... That's why I will never run them...


As for my price on Krawlers... it suffices to say this competition had several nice perks. List on the new Krawlers will be 400~... I will be getting them for about half what I paid James for my 38's...



Doug

Cajun
02-05-2003, 04:58 PM
Is that $400 EACH?!?!?!

I don't care how good a tire is supposed to be, there's no way I'd drop that kind of coin on a 37.

Krawler68
02-05-2003, 05:12 PM
yeah it's 400/tire. That's what the goodyears were initially...took over a year for them to come into the real world.

Doug

Jackasic
02-06-2003, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by Krawler68
I will be getting them for about half what I paid James for my 38's...

Doug

are you going to be using the same payment terms?:flipoff2:

Krawler68
02-06-2003, 01:21 PM
Why don't you call James and ask if he minded the terms of payment? In the end I think he was pretty forkin' happy.

Doug

Broncocustom
02-06-2003, 06:59 PM
It took some time, a real long time, to get the money but I earned a decent amount of interest on the deal. Everything worked out in the long run.

robertf03
02-06-2003, 07:16 PM
i just heard about some new 44" swampers that are about to come out. 44"x21"x20" with a cross between a bogger and tsl tread. heard anything about that? that might be the thing to knock down the krawlers if they do live through the hype unlike the mtr's.

Cajun
02-06-2003, 10:46 PM
[thread hijack] Flem, you've got my vote for BEST AVATAR EVER! [/thread hijack]

robertf03
02-07-2003, 12:22 AM
haha, thanks, I try

was hoping you knew something about these 20" wheel swampers. sounds like the next big thing. none of this trendy 17" wheel crap :flipoff2:

Cajun
02-07-2003, 07:06 AM
I don't know if that was directed at me, but I know nothing of dubbed-out swampers, much less a new tread design.

For rubber that size, I'd go with surplus Michelin XMLs in the 395/85R20 flavor (46.7" x 15.4"). At least until I saw Interco's newest offering...

bburris
02-07-2003, 02:39 PM
Doug -

Are you and Hal leaning more towards the normal Krawlers, or do you think you're going to mess with the ones that you can cut your own tread design/grooves into?

Krawler68
02-07-2003, 03:12 PM
I think i'm going to go ahead and buy the tries and let them sit for a while... I just picked up a lightly used set of 15"x 10" Allied beadlocks for my current 38's... 350 for a set of 4 rims. Not too bad.

I still want the krawlers... and the price we're getting them at makes it worth having them sit for a while... I am going to run the production ones... they are pre grooved and pre siped... Everyone who has run both swears the production run ones were every bit as good as the custom ones... not to mention BFG put a more aggressive sidewall on the production tires.

Doug

ROKN ZJ
02-12-2003, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by Krawler68
As for my price on Krawlers... it suffices to say this competition had several nice perks. List on the new Krawlers will be 400~... I will be getting them for about half what I paid James for my 38's...


Yea Doug was quick to jump in on the BFG program despite never planning to compete.

As for the price on the Krawlers, That price will drop. It's just set high for the first few runs. I haven't decided if I'm going with 37s or waiting until the 40s come out, nor have I decided on whether I'm sticking with the 15s or finding some 17" beadlocks. But I'm glad to know that Doug on the otherhand who won't be using them in comps is quick to snag a bunch :flipoff2:

Krawler68
02-12-2003, 10:15 PM
Amen brutha... just because those sexy competition boys have them doesn't mean i can't... and the women will have to dry up when they see me rollin' on 17" rims.

Doug