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Doug Krebs
03-08-2003, 11:25 PM
It's now 10:00 PM and we are 88 miles from El Paso. I'm in a exxon gas station that has free internet while john tate loads his pull rig (suburban) onto his trailer. He blew up his ring and pinion. So now he is going to drive the bronco the rest of the way. As far as me, I had some fuel delivery problems due to a clogged fuel filter. Dropped the gas tank first because it would run fine with a full tank, so we thought it was a broken pick up. Ended up being the fuel filter. Oh well 3 hours to go...

stinger7401
03-09-2003, 01:28 AM
Ok now from the group that left from SA. We arrived here at around 7:30 and some of us began to dirink. Me, Robert, Ryan Busa and troy all went out, kinda messed up to. HAHA. Anyways weather is great up here and tommrow will be our first trail. I'll keep you update as much as i can.

Oh and we saw a hot chick on the road and got a pic, man i feel like bedwetter:flipoff2:

stinger7401
03-09-2003, 01:34 AM
here it is.....

stinger7401
03-09-2003, 01:49 AM
Oh yeh and last night at a 6:30 right before we went to laod the jeep we took it out for a a ride onn hte road and loan behold pow! rear axle shaft split! Got it fixed and on the trailer to head out.

Heres a pic....

mark
03-09-2003, 09:14 PM
I just got off the phone with Freddy. Here's the dammage so far...

Scott's Patrol: Broken rear control arm

Cody's Isuzu thing: Broken rear control arm and three trashed driveshafts

Gregs Avalanche thing: Two broken axleshafts and a dodgy hub.

St. John's XJ: Pissy power steering

Krebs contraption: Leaky x-fer case

Sounds like fun, huh?

-Mark

robertf03
03-09-2003, 09:59 PM
sounds about right. can't have a tamor trip without having to drop a gas tank.

that sucks about those axles on gregs jeep, I thought they were bullet proof?

and what exactly happened to that axle nick?

mark
03-09-2003, 10:09 PM
Evidently, Greg broke axles on the opposite corners of his Jeep at the same time. This was on that trail with the famous Warrn picture. I'll bet avalanche is going to get a nasty call tomorrow.

-Mark

Jackasic
03-09-2003, 10:20 PM
And to think I stayed here to work. What was I thinking:)

Sounds like a great/usual TAMOR outing. Glad to see the kids carring the banner forward.

The question is who will win the RJ award - taking an unfinished rig out there on a trailer and slaving all week to make her trail able. there has to be someone?

robertf03
03-09-2003, 10:24 PM
Theres several contenders for the RJ award.

Could be a 4 way tie.

Jackasic
03-09-2003, 10:28 PM
That's what I like to here :D

stinger7401
03-10-2003, 12:13 AM
uPDATE: Well Marks update was correct except for he forgot to mention about busa's broke ass ring and pinion. Gregg exploded one of the f-450 stubb shaft that runs through the sealed hub assembly.

redcagepatrol
03-10-2003, 12:41 AM
UPDATE:
Jonothan Tate rolled his rig on it's side. Not too bad - he took off from the trailer parking area and came walking back 10 minutes later. He was jacking off and drove off the side of the road...

I broke the center pin on my left front leaf spring also. This made my truck dirve very funny - having TWO crooked axles both tweeked towards the center of the truck. The rear driveshaft had to be removed to keep from torquing the arm any more. I had to drive back to the hotel sideways in front wheel drive after I righted Jonothan's Tate Bronco that he rolled!

fbronco86
03-14-2003, 12:44 AM
Ahh yes the spring break trip.
The first night me and ryan turned the the wrong way and went down a extreme trail. yeah that was neat. i had to break in the bronco some time. ryan bent a steering arm and i did some body damage. other than that we did alright. come to find out we were going backward on the trail.

next day John broke the front TTB 44 in mid trail that was fun to get him out. his also broke the steering and a ujoint that night. then we got lost on the trail. so we sent lissa out to find are way she broke her control arm. then it was me and ryan's turn to find the way home. lissa ended up finding the main road with 3 of the 4 control arms. on the main road i almost rolled my bronco and tate had a close call again. for real what is up with the broncos and the roll over deal? i am gonna call bad driving.

next day
dona mts (CRAP)
we left and had steak dinner that night

next day
then we went out with the "moggler" some guy in town with a heep on mog 404's he was gay but showed us a good trail to play on(off broadway) i left after breaking a front shackle.

eight
03-14-2003, 12:54 AM
That extreme trail was Patzcuarro's Revenge.

Fredo
03-14-2003, 05:13 AM
Ok, St.John and I just rolled into Dallas. Yes, it is 4:30 am and yes, we did leave Las Cruces at Noon. It was an interesting day to say the least. I'm going to go pass out, but I'll explain and put some pics up tomorrow. By the by, if anyone has heard anything out of tate, let me know...I hope the kid's doing ok in his adventure home. :(

bburris
03-14-2003, 09:37 AM
How is he planning on getting home??? With a busted R&P in his suburban and a broken TTB in the Bronco...seems like both of his vehicles needed a tow.

Hope he gets home ok...

eight
03-14-2003, 10:24 AM
The ttb was just a shaft. He is going to try to have the suburban fixed. It may just be spider gears which can just be welded. If he can't get it fixed, he's driving the bronco home to Waco with a crippled drive shaft. Then he's getting a truck and going back to way far out there (Van Horn?) to pick up his suburban and trailer.


Fredo, that sounds about 2.5 hours too slow. Must have been fun.

bburris
03-14-2003, 10:49 AM
damn - I hope all goes well for him...poor kid

Shaggy
03-14-2003, 06:33 PM
i drove the 'burban home and have a real truck to go get the trailor/bronco.... i need someone to ride with me so i dont fall asleep so if anyone wants to go with me i am leaving late tonight and plan on being back mid sunday... call me at (254)722-4549 if you can

jmancuso
03-15-2003, 12:42 PM
Just a few Pics from New Mexico

jmancuso
03-15-2003, 12:46 PM
pic

jmancuso
03-15-2003, 12:51 PM
Uh OH looks like I missed

eight
03-15-2003, 02:03 PM
Just to show I'm not the only one that went.

stinger7401
03-15-2003, 07:50 PM
HAHAHA!!!! Fredo that sucks! Me and robert left Phoenix yesterday mornin at 8:00 our time and arrived in San Antonio at 10:30!! Oh yes kids thats right, took us 14 hours to complete a 16-1/2 hour drive! WHOOP! Auxilary fuel tanks rock!

Heres a few pics, in Arizona we had a few more problems. For one, everything out there is done by GPS, there is nothing that is labeled! Troy slashed a rear tire and then about two seconds after we put in 6 plugs he broke both his driver ball joints, throwing the entire knuckle. Busa slashed a tire and there was a lot of body damage on every vehicle that entered the trail. The Anconda is a hella trail. Oh yeh and jumping cactus and dogs dont mix:D

stinger7401
03-15-2003, 08:00 PM
the fix.....

stinger7401
03-15-2003, 08:01 PM
busa's stripped r&p

stinger7401
03-15-2003, 08:02 PM
camping the first night in the Arizona desert, no water, toilet showers, nothing completely out in the middle of the desert!

stinger7401
03-15-2003, 08:04 PM
Busa resetting his r&p in the desert...

stinger7401
03-15-2003, 08:06 PM
Gregg had a spool overnighted into Phoenix after we found out his detroit blew in Cruses.

And for all of you who think that greg doesnt do his own stuff i have proof, the boy does everything or at least trys too...

stinger7401
03-15-2003, 08:07 PM
Now on to the trail, we had a blast, heres one on Anaconda.

stinger7401
03-15-2003, 08:09 PM
Heres Gregg wheeling his toy, man the thing did great untill the very end at about 10:00 at night when his drag link snapped but think god he a ram assist, it made it really interesting..

stinger7401
03-15-2003, 08:10 PM
Mr. Higgs took charge of the avalanche vehicle in Phoenix and man i was impressed, yes it performs as cool as it looks.

stinger7401
03-15-2003, 08:12 PM
cody was the first one to try this obstacle and got into a bit of a pinch, it took us a while to get is cage unstuck, the rest of us had to put the passenger side tire on the wall...

davido
03-15-2003, 08:25 PM
20 hours and over 1100 miles later, it's back across from the rhino. Hey Busa, we saw you and Cody this morning about 100 miles this side of El Paso. We were headed the other way.

ps- austin's road planners are idiots.


~dso

Shaggy
03-15-2003, 08:30 PM
yes it is back... and i want to thank everyone that helped me out this week... doug krebs is a badass for pulling me 2 miles through a trail and davido ****ing rocks for putting over 1100 miles on his truck that had less than 5000 on it to go get the bronco... and thanks to fred and everyone that helped get my bronco back together for it's drive the trailor... I have got to say that i am glad to be a member of a club that leaves noone behind

Fredo
03-16-2003, 01:49 AM
Damn glad to hear you made it back Tate. It was looking pretty hairy there for awhile. :D

redcagepatrol
03-17-2003, 09:49 AM
AZ group Carnage:
The patrol
-bent lower control arm (fixed)
-bent rear shocks (took off)
-broken main leaf on front right leaf spring
-broken center pin on left leaf spring (fixed)
-lots of body damage

The Dodge tow rig:
-headlight
-turn signal
-scratched front bumper
-rear driveshaft u-joint and driveshaft
-intercooler hose kept blowing off

Lynda:
-clutch master/slave acting up
-starter going out
-slight body damage

Troy:
-slashed tire
-left front u-joint, outer shaft, and ball joints
-some body damage

Greg's Yota:
-broken drag link (fixed)
-body damage ~ doors will not go on any more...
-colapsed rear axle leaf spring perch
-bent rear driveshaft

Greg's Jeep:
-broken 35 spline outer shaft (replaced with 30 spline spare)
-stripped rear axle drive flange (only 1/4" stripped of 1")
-broken Detroit locker (replaced with spool)

Busa:
-slashed tire
-broken turn signal
-some body damage
-rear ring and pinion (fixed)

Nick:
-some body damage
-gas tank dented pretty bad
-lost left hand steering

Cody:
-broke 3 driveshafts (fixed)
-bent rear control arm (fixed)
-body damage

I think that's it - am I missing anything???

redcagepatrol
03-17-2003, 09:51 AM
tate on his side

redcagepatrol
03-17-2003, 09:53 AM
Nick...

redcagepatrol
03-17-2003, 09:56 AM
the group - notice the height of Busa's bumper...

redcagepatrol
03-17-2003, 09:57 AM
my rig

StevenAg03
03-17-2003, 10:08 AM
damn....looks like fun


any more pics of busa's bed?

BMFScout
03-17-2003, 10:47 AM
does anyone think that busa looks like someone from king of the hill???

Shaggy
03-17-2003, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by BMFScout
does anyone think that busa looks like someone from king of the hill???

i just fell out of my chair laughing in the blocker lab... people are staring at me now

Fredo
03-17-2003, 11:53 AM
man, what's with all the bright white tshirts? You guys get a bulk discount on those. :flipoff2:

StevenAg03
03-17-2003, 12:25 PM
hey scott....how did the patrol flex?

Krawler68
03-17-2003, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by stinger7401


Oh and we saw a hot chick on the road and got a pic, man i feel like bedwetter:flipoff2:

You da man sir... now we need to get everybody doing this...


Doug

redcagepatrol
03-17-2003, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by StevenAg03
hey scott....how did the patrol flex?

a little too good - it needs some limiting straps and bumpstops. When I get pics up, you will see from the body "self clearencing" that it flexes pretty well

davido
03-17-2003, 12:55 PM
Scott, quit yapping and get the photos online. :) I'm glad you stopped by last night. It was nice to see in person. Very cool!

Here's one for you Doug. It came across on our dorm's mailing list.

Krawler68
03-17-2003, 12:59 PM
***...I had to look twice...at first glance I thought that was Beth... Lynda's roomate...

I am still laughing... It's better when there is a story to go with the picture. I have several from hawaii.


Doug

redcagepatrol
03-17-2003, 01:55 PM
http://www.offroadrepublic.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=scotts

pics are up!!!! I have four diffenert albums set up for each place we went to.

put on the slide show and sit back

Shaggy
03-17-2003, 02:25 PM
no but you can always delete back to offroadrepublic.com and it will work

Chadnutz
03-17-2003, 02:49 PM
Man, I wish I could have been there.

redcagepatrol
03-17-2003, 10:55 PM
the link works now - enjoy

Fredo
03-18-2003, 01:26 AM
speaking of links working. My assload of pictures from Cruces are now uploaded on my webserver.

www.ridesbybmf.com/cruces


enjoy

Fredo
03-18-2003, 11:44 AM
Or, if you would prefer, David-o was nice enough to throw them over on offroadrepublic so that they could be viewed through thumbnails.

http://www.offroadrepublic.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album87

Doug Krebs
03-18-2003, 09:18 PM
Just a reminder for people who owe me money for camping:

Fred 5 nights at 5.30 = 26.50
St. John 5 nights at 5.30 = 26.50
Mike and jessica 4 nights at 10.60 = 42.40
Ryan's bro = 5 nights at 5.30 = 26.50

Please bring the money to the meeting if you can tommorow night, cash or check is fine. Hell you can pay pal me if you want!

Fredo
03-19-2003, 12:28 AM
Doug, I'll get you at the meeting tomorrow night for me and St.John.

BMFScout
03-19-2003, 12:32 AM
THAT'S MY KREBS!!!

mark
03-19-2003, 05:52 PM
Damnit Brune, I didn't need to see that. Use a disclaimer next time. Between you and Hal's gay porn...

redcagepatrol
03-22-2003, 07:46 PM
I tallied up my fuel bill:
$516.85 for 301.97 gallons

I got about 9.4 mpg pulling the 28 foot gooseneck going 70~75

Some people owe me for hotels: I don't think any of ya'll have paid me yet

Nick ~ 30 or so for the three nights in Cruces
Robert ~ 30 or so for the three nights in Cruces
Troy ~ 30 or so for the three nights in Cruces
Busa ~ 30 or so for the three nights in Cruces
Cody & Wendy ~ 78 for the two hotels in AZ

Doug Krebs
08-05-2005, 09:32 PM
So when the fawk are we going back??? I miss this ****, I really need to start working on building something, but now we've bought a house :confused2

Reading old threads like this make me motivated!

Sharpe
08-06-2005, 12:03 AM
Piss on the new house! Put a second mortgage on it and build something.

stinger7401
08-06-2005, 02:04 AM
oh i will be ready definately by next year, just let me know, or everyone crash at my place and we run the rubicon.......hmmmmmm.....that could be a new tamor trip

and yes that was one bada$$ trip, definately put a dent in the pocket and on the quarter panel, see jordan, thats where they came from. :gigem:

doug didnt you do something stupid on the way up there? Take you like 16 hours for an 8 hour trip?

Doug Krebs
08-06-2005, 11:28 AM
doug didnt you do something stupid on the way up there? Take you like 16 hours for an 8 hour trip?

Try more like 20ish hours for a 12-13 hour trip. The extra time was spent in this order:

Mikes scenic tour of seguin 1.5 hours
Over all problems with my blazer 3 hours
Tates suburban dying 1.5 hours
Overall slowness of the group 1 hour
Overall slowness when tate had to drive bronco max speed of 50 .5 hours

total 8.5 hours

the main problem with the blazer wasn't actually due to anything i had done in the previous month. The damn fuel pump was breaking of impellers and clogging the fuel filter. So we really didn't have to drop the tank in fort stockton, just replace the fuel filter. Although, I didn't learn that the pump was spitting impellers out until i had to drop the tank again when working at my brothers in-laws ranch in Ft. Stocton a couple days later...

jerryg79
08-06-2005, 01:38 PM
It tell you what, this year we'll put it behind the new truck and haul ass :gigem:

Doug Krebs
08-06-2005, 02:35 PM
awww **** don't tempt me!!!

Doug Krebs
08-06-2005, 02:36 PM
Piss on the new house! Put a second mortgage on it and build something.

Kinda hard to put a second mortgage on the house when we have no equity in it! Maybe we could get a second mortage on the down payment? :laughing:

Shaggy
08-06-2005, 03:37 PM
that was one hell of a trip... i want to go back and roll the bronco again... and trash the tow rig on the way too

CRaSHnBuRN
08-08-2005, 05:29 AM
So when the fawk are we going back??? I miss this ****, I really need to start working on building something, but now we've bought a house :confused2

Reading old threads like this make me motivated!

Come on, houses aren't that much money, hell, I didn't pay anything for mine. Thats where rich fiancee's come in :flipoff2: She did get a little pissed though when I started making up a list of all the cool **** I could of bought, if I had saved the money I put on her ring and spent it on the buggy instead :D

But really, don't you have most of the stuff you need allready to build a buggy? If you have most of the drivetrain stuff already, then you're mostly there. You could build a buggy like mine pretty cheap, just skip the bling stuff for now, and add them as you have the cash. Run some junkyard leafs for suspension, slap on a propane system (ask on lonestar4x4 for how to put one together cheap) and go.

redcagepatrol
08-08-2005, 07:10 AM
we just got back from this years trip...

Doug Krebs
08-08-2005, 01:01 PM
But really, don't you have most of the stuff you need allready to build a buggy? If you have most of the drivetrain stuff already, then you're mostly there. You could build a buggy like mine pretty cheap, just skip the bling stuff for now, and add them as you have the cash. Run some junkyard leafs for suspension, slap on a propane system (ask on lonestar4x4 for how to put one together cheap) and go.

Time more than anything at this point keeping me from building it. I've got a decent amount of work I want to do to the house first. It takes priority over everything other than school.

I basically have most of the main parts:

engine (4.3 TBI) don't need no propane!
tranny
t-cases
front axle D-60
all the tubing I could ever possibly need

stuff left that I need:

rear axle (14 bolt)
tires/rims (will be H2's beadlocked most likely with a used suitable tire)
suspension (either regular coils or an air shock with some kinda link suspension front and rear)
Driveshafts (probably make my own)
Full hydro system

Other nickel and dime stuff that adds up:
seats, radiator, brakes, fuel cell, etc...

Oh well, I'll probably design most of it this semester. I'm taking a solidworks class and maybe we'll have a big project that I can kill 2 birds with one stone by designing it in there.

StevenAg03
08-08-2005, 01:40 PM
are you taking ENDG 407?

here is one i drew in solidworks
http://www.texasoffroad.net/albums/lonestar/album68/SolidWorksBuggy.jpg

just so you know, it is gonna be hard to draw a tube buggy and turn it in for a project. now you may be able to do a suspension system. Thats what i did. i drew the rockwells, links, hiems, and frame. also solidworks sucks for anything even slightly complicated...

robertf03
08-08-2005, 02:02 PM
is that the new plans for the cj?

StevenAg03
08-08-2005, 02:08 PM
no....something more along the lines of this...

http://www.texasoffroad.net/albums/lonestar/album68/buggyiso.jpg

http://www.texasoffroad.net/albums/lonestar/album68/buggy.jpg

not that color green though...

bburris
08-08-2005, 02:10 PM
someone has a little time on their hands...

StevenAg03
08-08-2005, 02:12 PM
hmmm....and thats not the only buggy ive drawn either... :gigem:

Doug Krebs
08-08-2005, 02:15 PM
are you taking ENDG 407?

Thats the class I'm taking steven. I have no idea what the projects are in the class, but i figured if i had to draw something, it would be the buggy.

I mainly want to draw it so I can figure out where everything is going to fit and what it will look like. Since it's my first time to build a buggy and placing everything without any sort of guidance (stock frame, body panels, etc...) I'd like to build it so I can see how it looks in scale.

I'm guessing you have a better program than solidworks to model in since you said it would be hard to do it in solidworks? What are you using to do the tubing? Sweeping a circle around lines and curves?

Doug Krebs
08-08-2005, 03:15 PM
What program is that with the green buggy steven?

Two reasons I'll be using solidworks is I'll learn it next semester better than I do now and that I have it at home and work. Although, I only have 2001 at home which kinda sucks, but better than nothing. Also, it annoys me that the files are not backwards compatable.

StevenAg03
08-08-2005, 03:40 PM
the first picture was done in solidworks 2004(i think maybe 2005 maybe 2003). it can be done but you need to be damn good at solidworks to do it. the second one was done in Catia V5R14 made by desault systems, the same people who make solidworks. however it is WAY more powerful then solidworks, probably the most powerful solid modeler on the market. keep in mind that the more powerful a solid modeler is the less user friendly it is. i have also drawn buggies in ProENGINEER, another very powerful modeler. solidworks is along the same lines as autodesk inventor. both are good for simple things and terrible for complicated things. catia and ProE are the exact opposite.


as for 407, your first project will be done in AutoCAD. it is a pulley assembly and pretty easy. the second project is openended. as i said before i drew a frame, axles, tires, links, hiems, threaded inserts, and coil springs. i will see if i can find a picture of them. i was originally gonna make it a 4-link but due to the fact that the computers are not top of the line, i could only make it a 2-link. i think i got a 129 out of 100 on that project. also make sure you tun in all your drawings one class early, you will get 10 bonus points for doing so and they are relatively easy. i think i had to make a 34 on the final to get an 'A' and if i didn't take the test i had a high 'B'

KrazyKarl02
08-08-2005, 05:02 PM
If you want I have a full copy of Solidworks 2003 I can hook you up with.

fbronco86
08-08-2005, 06:12 PM
the first picture was done in solidworks 2004(i think maybe 2005 maybe 2003). it can be done but you need to be damn good at solidworks to do it. the second one was done in Catia V5R14 made by desault systems, the same people who make solidworks. however it is WAY more powerful then solidworks, probably the most powerful solid modeler on the market. keep in mind that the more powerful a solid modeler is the less user friendly it is. i have also drawn buggies in ProENGINEER, another very powerful modeler. solidworks is along the same lines as autodesk inventor. both are good for simple things and terrible for complicated things. catia and ProE are the exact opposite.


as for 407, your first project will be done in AutoCAD. it is a pulley assembly and pretty easy. the second project is openended. as i said before i drew a frame, axles, tires, links, hiems, threaded inserts, and coil springs. i will see if i can find a picture of them. i was originally gonna make it a 4-link but due to the fact that the computers are not top of the line, i could only make it a 2-link. i think i got a 129 out of 100 on that project. also make sure you tun in all your drawings one class early, you will get 10 bonus points for doing so and they are relatively easy. i think i had to make a 34 on the final to get an 'A' and if i didn't take the test i had a high 'B'

ever use soildedge??

StevenAg03
08-09-2005, 07:58 AM
never heard of solidedge...who makes it?