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davido
04-29-2002, 10:57 PM
http://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/chapter6/tires-mounted.jpg

Krawler68
04-29-2002, 11:49 PM
looks like a pretty low COG there Dave O .... coo...
:D :D

davido
04-30-2002, 12:17 AM
That's the idea. As little lift as possible to fit the meats. We'll see how it's looking once the tub gets set on there.

Poly mounts will be in the mail tomorrow, here by the weekend (with any luck). The clutch came in today. The flywheel is done. The drivetrain is about ready for some fitting.

I'm still looking for the illusive D60 front or matching 1 ton set. I'm getting close to just jumping on one of the few that I've narrowed it down to.

The D44 wasn't even close to bolting up. I didn't want to torch off the arms just for temp fitting. This pushes up the need for an axle. We'll see what happens.

~dso

Krawler68
04-30-2002, 12:19 AM
I'm still hunting you one...there are alot of bum steers out here... Hell most of my D60 leads for a Ford turn up dry too... made a profit on selling one, and now i wish I'd kept it for the EB... can't seem to find another one...

StevenAg03
04-30-2002, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by Krawler68
looks like a pretty low COG there Dave O .... coo...
:D :D


right now the frame sits at about waist level....it is far from low at this point....i would suspect that it will drop about 3-4" with all the weight on it....not sure though...

BMFScout
04-30-2002, 08:45 AM
it is on 42 INCH SWAMPERS, I think "low" is a relative term at this point...

agjeeper
04-30-2002, 09:12 AM
Yeah, but you gotta realize, waist high for Dave means about knee high for the rest of us.

BMFScout
04-30-2002, 09:37 AM
your very first post was a cheap shot at dave? Good Form! (golf clap)

davido
04-30-2002, 10:06 AM
Hey, at least I've hit puberty. http://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/pics-funnies/forum-thefinger.gif http://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/pics-funnies/forum-thefinger.gif


Actually, it's almost chest height for me, the conversion factor has already been assesed.

~dso

Krawler68
04-30-2002, 04:32 PM
that was a tight post by Burbach...

davido
04-30-2002, 05:00 PM
Thank you Mr. Padder.

Krawler68
05-01-2002, 08:35 AM
pad pad pad all day long pad pad pad while I sing this song....

Show more FJ pics...if not ones of yours ones of what you want... :D

davido
05-01-2002, 01:11 PM
Alright, fawk you guys. I'm selling all of the Cruiser crap and I'm just going to get one of these: http://www.patriot-racing.com/

http://www.patriot-racing.com/Patriot-Racing/RentalSites/no_hands.jpg


Mini Me Out....

~dsohttp://www.offroadrepublic.com/fj40/pics-funnies/forum-thefinger.gif

davido
05-06-2002, 03:25 PM
Got the engine set in and the tub on this weekend.

http://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/chapter3/tub-on.jpg

Cajun
05-07-2002, 04:10 PM
Don't worry about trimming the fenders, those are "self clearancing" tires...

StevenAg03
05-07-2002, 04:12 PM
you would think that....but one time of that tire getting stuffed into the sharp sheet metal, and there goes one 42" Tsl....i think he is definatly going to have to cut it further back. He has about a 90* departure angle....

davido
07-22-2002, 04:30 PM
More progress this weekend. A big thanks to Flem for coming down and helping out.

http://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/chapter6/dana_60_front_on.jpg

Krawler68
07-22-2002, 04:32 PM
NICE... those 60 hubs stick out of thjose hummer rims alot...you going to try and run some spacers or something?

The front hoop and fender things look fanking nice. KISS and I bet that thing will look forking fine.

davido
07-22-2002, 04:36 PM
They look like it from that angle but they really don't stick out that far. I'll get a shot of it tonight. I'm not going to worry about it for now.

redcagepatrol
07-22-2002, 05:01 PM
DAVID!

SLOW DOWN! You are making me look bad, it is looking way too real!

Good work-keep it going, just go slower so I can catch up!

Cajun
07-22-2002, 05:05 PM
You? I don't even have all the parts for my junk yet!

The FJ is looking quite nice, by the way.

davido
07-22-2002, 05:16 PM
Yeah, well don't get too wound up. The shack's walls are up, but it still doesn't have power or indoor plumbing. :D

StevenAg03
07-22-2002, 10:39 PM
your gonna put plumming in the FJ-Fawty....hmmm....never thought of having a shatter in there....http://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/pics-funnies/forum-thefinger.gifhttp://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/pics-funnies/forum-thefinger.gifhttp://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/pics-funnies/forum-thefinger.gifhttp://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/pics-funnies/forum-thefinger.gifhttp://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/pics-funnies/forum-thefinger.gif

AgDieseler
07-23-2002, 09:15 AM
He can work it in right under the driver's seat.

redcagepatrol
07-23-2002, 09:18 AM
He'll need it there if he does any driving on the trail...

probably in the passenger seat too

davido
07-23-2002, 09:36 AM
Here's some more pics:

Here's what the approach is looking like:
http://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/chapter6/front_dana_60_approach.jpg

Here's a shot of the body mount that I want to cut off and move towards the frame. Also the lip under the floor that will be removed.
http://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/chapter3/front_body_mount2.jpg

Here's three shots of the front hub. Not as bad as I thought it would be (but not that great either). This would fall under the category of "sacrifices". If called to duty, the hubs just might have to take one for the team:

http://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/chapter5/dana_60_hub.jpg
http://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/chapter5/dana_60_hub2.jpg
http://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/chapter5/dana_60_hub3.jpg

Krawler68
07-23-2002, 09:59 AM
I can tell Robert has been helping you... nice jackstand support to the fender bar... where's the vice grips? :D


BTW the hub DOESN"T look as bad as I thought at first... hope it works out allright.

robertf03
07-23-2002, 10:06 AM
hey now, i had nothing to do with that one :D

I just show up to bitch about how much griding the perches off a 14 bolt SUCKS!!!

Cajun
07-23-2002, 10:11 AM
That's what the gas axe is for! Either that, or you need a real grinder.

robertf03
07-23-2002, 10:14 AM
they were cast spring perches, not the stamped steal ones that everyone else uses. I'd imagine its the same PITA that taking of the radius arm nubs on a ford axle would be

davido
07-23-2002, 11:09 AM
For all practical purposes, the spring perches were SOLID. I got most of it off with the torch but I didn't want to leave that heat on it for the time that it would have taken to really get it down close. I also didn't want to screw up and cut into the tube. It took about 5 - 10 minutes straight with the torch, then about 30 - 45 with the grinder. May not seem that long, but that's a lot of heat and a lot of vibrations. I FELT like an old man when I woke up Monday. :rolleyes: I do have a REAL grinder fag, FYI it's the most powerful one that DeWalt makes in that size. :eek: The crap I have to put up with.

As for the jack stand, that was actually proping up the weight of the hood when I was putting the bars together. I just haven't taken it out. Notice that it's sitting on the alternator bracket (on the drivers side) and you can't see the top. If Rob would have been there, I wouldn't have had to rig it like that. But that's the way it goes when you're working on it by yourself. It sucks.

Next thing you know, you ass clowns are going to be complaining about how dirty my garage is.

:D ~dso

Cajun
07-23-2002, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by davido

Next thing you know, you ass clowns are going to be complaining about how dirty my garage is.

:D ~dso

Now that you mention it...:D

davido
09-13-2002, 06:26 PM
Should get them bolted up this weekend. ~dso

davido
09-13-2002, 06:28 PM
Here's the clocking that Mark and I did last weekend. Hopefully I'll get the cross member finished this weekend also.

~dso

BMFScout
09-14-2002, 01:51 AM
from that pic it looks like the rear driveline is going to be about 4 inches long, schweet!!:D :D

davido
09-23-2002, 11:28 AM
Good Sunday. Some hard decisions were made this weekend. As some of the progress can't easily be reversed.

Spring pins flipped. Ubolts installed on front and rear. Steering arms installed. Engine located and tacked in. Rear crossmember invented/fabricated/welded/bolted in/painted. Rear axle perches welded on.

http://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/chapter4/np205_clocked.jpg
http://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/chapter4/klune_crossmember2.jpg
http://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/chapter4/flat_belly2.jpg

Thanks again Mark.
~dso

davido
09-23-2002, 11:29 AM
Here's the arms....

http://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/chapter7/d60_hi_steer_arms_installed.jpg
http://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/chapter7/d60_hi_steer_arms_installed2.jpg


My favorite quote this Sunday:

"It's like trying to assemble a battleship in a closet"

- Mark Shipman

~dso

froader03
09-23-2002, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by davido

My favorite quote this Sunday:

"It's like trying to assemble a battleship in a closet"

- Mark Shipman

~dso


well, quit yer bitchin' and come out of the closet...

davido
09-23-2002, 01:28 PM
I would, but I just can't say no to your blowjobs.

~dso

Chadnutz
09-23-2002, 02:32 PM
hahahjahahahahhahahaha

nice one

bburris
09-23-2002, 05:09 PM
wow - looks great Dave,

are you going to run the tie rod behind the axle? I don't know if all of those arms are made that way or if you ordered it like that so you could run steering behind the axle.

Jackasic
09-23-2002, 07:16 PM
Kick A:thumbup: Looked great in person, bit looks even better in the lics. keep it up, you need to beat Andy out the door.

Cajun
09-23-2002, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by Jackasic
...you need to beat Andy out the door.

I don't think that's going to be much of a challenge. Hell, all of my drivetrain components aren't even in the same state!

Hey, Jackass(ic)! Where's the 'Binder love? You're supposed to be rootin' for me, not rice boy!

Cajun
09-23-2002, 08:53 PM
Seriously, the FJ is looking great. I can't imagine building it in those close quarters, kudos for y'all for doing so. How far away is the finished (for now) project?

David, let me know when you get ready to buy tubing.

BMFScout
09-23-2002, 11:46 PM
The steering will run behind and the rock ram will go in the front, or at least that is what the plans were as of Sunday :)

bburris
09-24-2002, 12:18 AM
how does the steering work with the driveshaft? is it bent around it or is that not an issue with these arms?

Jackasic
09-24-2002, 07:47 AM
Originally posted by Cajun


I don't think that's going to be much of a challenge. Hell, all of my drivetrain components aren't even in the same state!

Hey, Jackass(ic)! Where's the 'Binder love? You're supposed to be rootin' for me, not rice boy!

Back so soon from hunt'n? Sorry about the support issue, but I have time and rep invested with dave. I was pulling for him to beat doug/flem/scott six months ago. He still may win:D

You left me at the alter when you dumped the IH power:p Not going to be able to help you on friday morning with you motor pull, I can help after work and possable saturday.

Shoot me a line if you need anything.

davido
10-08-2002, 11:23 AM
This was a giant pain in the butt.

Steering Components (http://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/chapter7/)

http://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/chapter7/steering_box6.jpg

Seth
10-08-2002, 11:41 AM
Wow -- nice work....i can see how it was a total pain in the ass. a buddy of mine is gonna be down this weekend with his cruiser he just got running, and might be interested in seeing yours. You gonna be in Houston for the wedding I assume?

Seth

davido
10-18-2002, 11:05 AM
http://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/chapter7/autometer_gauges.jpg

Chadnutz
10-18-2002, 11:21 AM
Agnitek must be doing well these days.

Any time I could stop by and see this beast in person?

BigRedFord04
10-18-2002, 03:13 PM
holy sh¡t! thats a nice box o' goodies!

Cajun
10-18-2002, 04:40 PM
Very nice, and the Jegs stickers even match:D

davido
11-11-2002, 05:28 PM
A little more this weekend. Nothing real recognizable.

New 6* shim in the front.
Put the rear hubs back on.
Mounted the clutch slave cylinder.

http://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/chapter4/brake-slave-cylinder-mount2.jpg


Measured.

Drive shafts and ebrake will be ordered this week from Jess.
Tie rod and drag link will be ordered this week from Scott.



What did you get done Schubring? Post it to your thread.

~dso

Krawler68
11-11-2002, 05:45 PM
I'll post my own progress thread tonight... BTW david... my slave cylinder is better than yours it's anodized aluminum... blue... :D :D

Cajun
11-11-2002, 10:15 PM
Do you need any help picking up those names you dropped?

:flipoff2:

davido
11-11-2002, 10:25 PM
If I would have said that "I'm ordering driveshafts and steering linkage", I would have had to respond 5 minutes later to someone asking where I was getting them from. Their names were shorter than their company names. So there you have it.

Fag. ~dso

davido
12-04-2002, 01:51 PM
.5" wall tubing tie rod...
http://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/chapter7/rock_proof_rods.jpg


new drivetrain parts...
http://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/chapter4/driveshaft_rear.jpg


Mark ran the brake lines...
http://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/chapter8/brakelines_front.jpg

Chadnutz
12-04-2002, 01:59 PM
I'd buy that for a dollar.









Looks good.

redcagepatrol
12-04-2002, 02:00 PM
so Mark,
when u gona come down and run my brake lines...

robertf03
12-04-2002, 02:23 PM
how much clearance did you end up with between the tie rod and spring?

Cajun
12-04-2002, 02:51 PM
Wow. The drivelines and 205 parking brake are super cool. Excellent choices all around.

Oh, what are the specs on your rear shaft, and how much length did parking brake add to your 205? Also, why go with that over the rear disk e-brake? Not second guessing you, just curious since I'll be making the same calls in the future.

mark
12-04-2002, 02:53 PM
how much clearance did you end up with between the tie rod and spring?

He's got about -.25". Spacers are required. But at least the tie rod is too long.

Dave needs to post a pic of the brake line uterus. Its my finest bit of tube bending.


-Mark

mark
12-04-2002, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by redcagepatrol
so Mark,
when u gona come down and run my brake lines...

...when you build me a cage...

BMFScout
12-05-2002, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by mark


...when you build me a cage...

that sounds like a good deal scott, you would only have to make 5 or 6 bends, mark would be making like 27 bends, and he would have to flare lines, PITA...

redcagepatrol
12-05-2002, 11:11 AM
Ahhhh
.
.
.
.
.
.
NO

I think I will just do my brake lines myself, unless I get a free good deed:D

davido
12-09-2002, 11:57 AM
Well, I have to thank Mark and Brandon again for all of the help. Even Tate came out and helped for a while. Thanks Johnathan.


This weekend was mostly finishing up some of the things from last weekend. The main new development was learning that we could run 42s with just a spring over. No body lift...

.. I'll give you a hint.
http://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/chapter3/floor_chopping2.jpg



Mark's World Famous Braking Uterus.
http://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/chapter8/the_braking_uterus.jpg



Hydroboost mounted. Thanks to Brandon on this design.
http://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/chapter8/hydroboost_mounted.jpg



More pics on the site. Also check this out...

Jeremiah Proffit's FJ-45 (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=98178&perpage=25&pagenumber=1)

mudtoy67
12-09-2002, 06:10 PM
Looks great Dave! Never thought about hydroboost....sure saves a lot of firewall space. Was that clutch master clean enough to use or did you rebuild it already?

mudtoy67
12-09-2002, 06:12 PM
Hey, where'd you score the Tcase mounted park brake?

davido
12-09-2002, 06:27 PM
I didn't rebuild it.... yet. We'll see if it holds. On the tcase mount, it's from High Angle Driveline. There's more details on my site.

~dso

Jackasic
12-09-2002, 07:39 PM
sweet pics, she is finally coming along. Now the question is who will be done first, Dave or Scott? Bets anyone?

davido
12-10-2002, 09:51 AM
My money is on Scott. I still have a lot of house projects going on that are going to be getting some love in the near future. I feel like I've been moving at break neck speed on the Cruiser progress lately.

~dso

davido
12-16-2002, 12:02 PM
Three(ish) more days of work on it...

StevenAg03
12-16-2002, 01:54 PM
looks good dave......got anymore pics of it? also did you make your own wiring harness for the lights and such or are you using a painless type harness?

davido
12-16-2002, 08:00 PM
I used a Centech Kit.
http://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/chapter9/

Jackasic
12-17-2002, 12:35 AM
thanks Dave for the props and posting this pic:

http://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/chapter10/brandons_welding.jpg

p.s. that's my online proof that I am figuring the whole welding thing out;) Thanks Dave for letting me experiment on your FJ.

redcagepatrol
12-17-2002, 08:35 AM
should have cleaned the steel better, I see one dirty spot. also lacking tacks on the bottom side causing it to warp:D

Slow down Dave!! Looks good

mark
12-17-2002, 08:43 AM
Originally posted by Jackasic
that's my online proof that I am figuring the whole welding thing out;) Thanks Dave for letting me experiment on you (SIC: your) FJ.

You'r developing the welding skills, but your hole drilling sux. :D

-Mark

Jackasic
12-17-2002, 09:22 AM
Originally posted by redcagepatrol
should have cleaned the steel better, I see one dirty spot. also lacking tacks on the bottom side causing it to warp:D


what dirty spot http://forums.imolas4.com/images/smilies/dunno.gif Are you talking about that little peice of slag? It was probably there because the bottle ran out about thirty secounds later.

For the record, I beveled both pieces on both sides, so it was clean.

Also it was perfecty flat and and true. That is the bottom side and the other side was compleatly welded. One piece pitches in because the tube that was to be weld on is off set. You'll see when the part is done:)

Jackasic
12-17-2002, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by mark

You'r developing the welding skills, but your hole drilling sux. :D


That was the point I knew I had to much and had to go home.:D

Jackasic
12-17-2002, 10:52 AM
Haven't had as much practice with a stick, so my skills there are a little lagging.

mark
12-17-2002, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by Jackasic
Haven't had as much practice with a stick, so my skills there are a little lagging.

Don't you mean that your skills are a little slagging. Ha ha ha! Oh ho ho ho! I kill me.

-Mark

Jackasic
12-17-2002, 01:24 PM
don't you have some work to be doing, or are you just there collecting a paycheck :D

mark
12-17-2002, 01:54 PM
I am guessing he is just sitting at his desk surfing the internet. Oh wait, that's me I am talking about.

-Mark

davido
01-21-2003, 01:34 AM
Thanks Andy and Brandon. You know I couldn't have done it without you guys. You're the :cool: est.

:D ~dso

Krawler68
01-21-2003, 09:26 AM
Nice...that looks really good...

Doug

BigRedFord04
01-21-2003, 10:54 AM
nice jeep :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:
i like the cage, good job guys

Cody_91YJ
01-21-2003, 06:59 PM
looks bad ass! Like the cage

froader03
01-21-2003, 07:09 PM
that's outstanding. you guys did a great job. hopefully I'll get some kind of cage fabbed before I actually need it (next time I go to clayton). anyways, very nice, dave. that's a mean lookin' bitch.

redcagepatrol
01-21-2003, 09:41 PM
how long did it take, how much metal did you waste, and.... wasn't that FUN!!!!

it seems like I am always adding pieces to my cage - it is never finished:D

Jackasic
01-21-2003, 09:48 PM
We screwed the first hoop because we thought the bender went the other way. Opps, one leg is twice as long as the other.

Seems like we would bang our heads till midnight, get frustrated, give up, and go inside. next morning we would come out and solve the same problem in 10 minutes.:mad:

In the end, the onliy tube we "wasted" was the first hoop. Just takes a while to figure out how things work in the real world and what ideas should have stayed just that, ideas.

I think the next one will go much faster.

redcagepatrol
01-21-2003, 10:08 PM
the "other side" or "second one" is always much easier than the first. Once you learn the bender and what one pull can do to the tubing at each angle, life is much easier and everthing will go smoother. Good luck with the next one;)

mark
01-22-2003, 06:54 AM
Nice Cage. Where's the hood?:D

-Mark

Cajun
01-22-2003, 08:16 AM
Originally posted by mark
Nice Cage. Where's the hood?:D

-Mark

I wanted to say that soooooo bad.;)

davido
01-22-2003, 10:44 AM
You know, I really hate you guys. I already told you, the hood is on extended leave.

:flipoff2: ~dso

Fredo
01-22-2003, 11:14 AM
oh chit...i never even thought about that when we loaded it on the trailer.....did it get recovered? and was the look on your face something like my friend who lost his hood on the way to detroit?

davido
01-22-2003, 11:31 AM
It was rachet strapped down. Very tight I might add. It' basically pulled a Houdini. @#$%ing thing.


~dso

Krawler68
01-22-2003, 11:48 AM
My windshield frame on the old EB body did that to me on one trip...

It was ratcheted down too... but something in the bouncing let it fly back at speed and break down the center... probably not odd considering that it was held together by a 2x4 on one side... :flipoff2:

Sorry to hear you lost it David... that sucks.

On the plus side can you imagine the look on the guy's face who was driving behind you as that thing slowly lifted up and then caught the final blast of wind that blew it backwards at speed? that's where the joy in this situation lies.


Doug

davido
01-22-2003, 03:06 PM
Doug - You're a sick, sick man. :)


Actually, that was the main thing I was worried about. I hope nobody got hurt. I would imagine that I would have heard about it if they did. :confused:

~dso

Krawler68
01-22-2003, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by davido
Doug - You're a sick, sick man. :)


~dso

Tell me you're not laughing about it a little right now...

:D :D

Doug

bburris
01-23-2003, 01:15 AM
Dave - those were my thoughts as I saw a 50+ lb Dogloo fly out of my trailer on my way back south from CS on tuesday...a Z3 was behind me :eek:

BMFScout
01-23-2003, 09:49 AM
I once saw a patio table and chairs fly out of the back of a truck in front of me, the glass SHATTERED all over the road, it was ****ing sweet...

BigRedFord04
01-23-2003, 11:07 AM
i lost a couch out of the bed of my truck last year....it was fine after the landing, but when that dodge dually got ahold of it...now thats a whole other story...

Shaggy
01-23-2003, 12:14 PM
once when i had my bronco on a trailor my hood came open and wrapped around the roof... i didnt even really notice... just felt like a little drag... it was pretty fubared but atleast it didnt come off

davido
05-15-2003, 09:39 AM
Jeez, it's been way too long since I updated this. Oh well, here goes....

Andy came up and I somehow conned Flem into staying for the day and helping. Maybe it was the pizza. ;) Anyway, we got a couple of things done. Mostly, Rob got the gauges all wired up. That's a biggie for me since I'm totally clueless about that stuff. Thanks Rob, you're the man.

Andy and I made progress on mounting the seats. I have to order some hardware to finish it out, but the plan is in place and that's half of having it done. Since we already have half of the construction done, we're 75% of the way to having seats in. That's good math right there. :D

I've spent the beginnings of this week locating parts. Tabs to finish out the seats. Fuel cell (Johnny @ RCI is awesome!). Steering shaft & ujoints (still talking to Flaming River). I talked to Cody about buying some 1" spacers to go under my steering arms. That will clear the tie rod over the springs. Bryan Hose & Gasket is working on getting lines made, they're pretty helpful so far. Finally, Steven at ORD is helping finalize a twin stick solution to work with the Klune setup. If all of this gets done before the weekend, then I'll be in good shape.

Thanks to some LSLC networking and some fancy relay work from Doug (and someone else), the hood fair delivered a hood to my garage door. Andy hit it with the sand paper last weekend, I should have it painted and ready to go on this weekend.

I think the windshield mounting is going to have to wait until after it's running. Installing the cooling and fuel systems are two big items that remain. I have a radiator already. I'll have to fab up the mount for it since it's stock location won't do. Then some electric fans will be in order, maybe for time sakes I'll start with reinstalling the mechanical one.

That's about it for this update. Here's a pic...

http://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/chapter9/dash_plate_installed.jpg

robertf03
05-15-2003, 09:43 AM
What fuel cell have you decided on? I can't make up my mind on which one I want.

Cajun
05-15-2003, 09:52 AM
Excellent update! :D

davido
05-15-2003, 10:17 AM
Well I called to Johnny at RCI (rciracing.com - highly recommended!) and I told him what my measurements were and asked him first what he had in stock (I'm on a tight timeline at this point). My frame rails are 32" apart at the narrowest point in the rear and I only wanted to go 17" max from the rear bumper. Much more than that and I get into a stock crossmember that I want to keep. Also, without the body lift, I only have about 7" - 8" from the bottom of the tub to the bottom of the bumper. I'm not worried about cutting the tub if I have to, but a flat floor is my first choice, plus less work. I also have some space to give as far as dropping the tank a little below the bumper height, which also shouldn't cause any problems whil wheeling. When I looked through Summit, they had a 30 wide x 9 deep x 12 tall, which would work, but it would leave me with leftover space forward/backward and it would make me have to cut the floor to have the remaining couple of inches sticking above the floor. Also not ideal. But when I called, he offered to set me up with a 30 wide x 12 deep x 9 tall. Now we're talking! We talk some more about models and filler necks. He recommends the D-ring style for keeping out contaminates when I open it to fill. The end of the conversation went like this...

Me: Ok, I'll take it.
Johnny: So how fast do you need it?
Me: How about Friday? Do you have one in stock? I'm really trying to tie up some loose ends and this is a big one.
Johnny: Friday, really? Hmm. I think I may have one in the warehouse. Let me go check and I'll call you back tomorrow.
Me: Cool.

--- Wednesday ---
Johnny: I'm able to take one off another order. He's not in a big hurry.
Me: Excellent, so when can you send it?
Johnny: I'll get it out tomorrow.

So I put it on the co. card. :D

--- Thursday ---

He called and is sending it out. Plus it's going to be $15 less than what he quoted. I'm very happy so far. I hope the product is as good as the service.

~dso

robertf03
05-15-2003, 11:29 AM
that sounds exactly like what I'm looking for too. Is there a part #, or did they custom put the holes in different places for the vertical one that summit sells? oh, and how much $?

I'm planning on doing the trap door kinda thing that Rick Niel's got in his CJ, is that what you're going to do?

davido
05-15-2003, 11:59 AM
It was $280. There's no part number, just measurements. They basically took one of the 30 x 9 x 12 ones that Summit carries and put the holes on the side (and tipped it up). I'm planning on just putting an access door in the floor to reach the filler. I've actually never seen Rick's, but I was thinking his was on the side. I'll have to dig through old pics.

~dso

davido
05-16-2003, 11:09 AM
Mental note, GM 3/4 ton (D44) & 1 ton (D60) calipers use the same banjo bolt, thus the same fitting. So if you have fittings the same at the frame end, all of your brake lines can be identical.

I ordered 5 brake lines (Bryan Hose & Gasket) so that I would have one spare. I wasn't sure how long I needed, so I got LOOOONG ones (40"). I'll double over the slack if necessary. I hate buying twice.

Mark brake lines off the list. Oh yeah, steering also. I called Flaming River today. They didn't have any premade kits that were long enough. Welcome to my life. The span is 44", I didn't think it was anything special but NO, it has to be different ($). Oh well, it's in the works now.

Matt from WTOR is sending a pitman arm, should be here today. Cody said he's start on the spacers on Monday. Now a call in to AA Mfg. for tabs and such and a followup to ORD to see how the twin stick is going, and I'll be ready for the weekend. Painting and welding all weekend. Woo hoo!

Hmmm, progress. (in my best Homer voice) :D

lata suckas! ~dso

mark
05-16-2003, 03:38 PM
Damn. Where'd ya get all that money from?

-Mark

davido
05-16-2003, 05:25 PM
Actually, money has not been a problem. But I see where you're taking this. :D ... and that never hurts. Now that I think about it, I think I need to go make a deposit.

Motivation and time have been larger factors. Andy coming in to help provided the spark. Lots going on now. A deadline always helps also. If I were in college still, I'd wait until the night before. But I don't think I can just pull an all nighter to get this thing going. Oh, back in the day....

~dso

redcagepatrol
05-18-2003, 10:41 PM
I rolled by your house in the Patrol saturday around 3:30~4:00 and nobody was there, the cruiser looked the same as the last time I saw it. House was open, fuel cell looked good on the kitchen counter...
Hope you made some progress this weekend:D

davido
05-28-2003, 04:32 PM
More progress last weekend...

http://www.offroadrepublic.com/fj40/chapter10/wd_cage_done2.jpg Cage is done.

http://offroadrepublic.com/fj40/chapter4/twin_stick_np205_klunev_99.jpg Twin sticks are in.

http://www.offroadrepublic.com/fj40/chapter7/hughes_fab_spacers1.jpg The Hughes Fab spacers are in.


The manifolds came in today, as did all of the garb from A&A. I'll be able to do the seats this weekend. I'm planning on making it over to Bryan Hose & Gasket tomorrow to have the new power steering hoses made. I needed longer ones than what came with the hydro boost setup. Also, the ends are wrong and need to be switched around a little.

I just talked with Flaming River. They've been a little slow on getting the "custom" shaft out, but they're going to 2nd day it to me for regular shipping price so that I'll have it for the weekend.

StevenAg03
05-28-2003, 05:20 PM
what are you gonna do to cover the hole you cut in the florr board? are you gonna make an access pannel like the ones in jeeps?

davido
05-28-2003, 05:29 PM
I'm just planning a metal box. A few have suggested having some metal broke to fit so that it's rounded. We'll see. I may do that for the front part, but I'm not to worried about it since most of it is under the seats anyway.

~dso

Cajun
05-28-2003, 07:42 PM
Don't forget...The jam nuts on the shift linkages need to be tightened, all I did was finger tighten them.

Wouldn't want all our kustom work to come undone at the Party :D

Krawler68
05-28-2003, 07:53 PM
I haven't been eating lately... I'll be at the party and "Stupendously Skinny"... I hope I get to see that fat ass pig out there.

Doug

davido
06-03-2003, 01:44 AM
The cage is all welded up. All I need to do is get the hoop to make the diagonals. Anyone have some safety harnesses that I can use for mock up purposes?

The steering shaft is installed. Finally. For being all bolt up parts, that was a real bitch. I'll need some kind of carrier setup for it. That may not make it for the first run. We'll see.

The steering linkage is all tightened up. I'll still need to drill the castle nuts, but it's close.

The brake system is all thightened up. I'm going to get the remaining peices in the morning from NAPA. From the "world famous braking uterus" down to the calipers is all ready to go. A couple of bends and some tightening and it'll be ready to go.

The hydroboost is all setup. I need a few hose clamps, but other than that it's ready to go.

I'll have to revisit the radiator mounting soon. The steering shaft interferes with the stock location. I'm hoping a simple 2 - 3" lift will be enough to get it up out of the way. Hopefully it will still be protected by the front hoop. We'll have to see how all of that works out.

I'm thinking with the last of the brake lines in, the radiator hooked up, and the fuel lines ran, it should be ready to fire up. I'm sure I'm forgetting something. I'll have the fire extinguisher on hand when my "reminder" pops up.

Hoping to get it on the trailer tomorrow and bring it to Houston to Lone Star Muffler to have the exhaust done. I'm going to pick up the extra hoop (for the seat back diagonals) and the antiwrap bar tubing from the steel yard while I'm down there.

Not in the clear yet, but not out of the running either. We'll see. Tomorrow's another day....

~dso

aggielr
06-03-2003, 06:59 AM
sounds like you've been busy, and if ya need to see where to mount the 5 points, i've got mine that havn't been installed yet, you can take a look at them

Shaggy
06-03-2003, 09:20 AM
i have my harnesses here at the house in my truck... you can pull out the passanger one if ya want... whatever ya need man

redcagepatrol
06-03-2003, 06:01 PM
17 days and counting... Good luck! Going to Houston for the exhaust???

You will find all kinds of crap to do. The little stuff tends to add up real quick...

davido
06-05-2003, 10:05 PM
Yes, the days are counting down. Especially since I will be in Key West, Key Largo, and Miami from the 10th through the 17th. It's time for my annual fishing vacation trip. :D

The exhaust got installed today (Bryan Muffler). Lone Star tried to screw me so I brought it back and had it done for almost half price. The brakes got finished yesterday. I have the tubing for the antiwrap bars. I also bought lug nuts today (Dixie Tire was 5% cheaper than Discount Tire AND they had them in stock).

Weekend todo list:

- footing plates to back the cage.
- install fuel cell & run hose.
- replace HEI rotor, cap, & wires.
- install radiator.
- install tailgates.
- plug up oil pressure sending unit.
- add bib (Cruiser term).
- add cross bars to cage.
- mock up seats and harnesses.
- fab skid plate.
- antiwrap bars (optional).
- weld up front bumper - Andy, do you remember the final verdict on that?
- add fluids and fire it up! :D
- engine oil
- transmission gear oil
- klune - synthetic
- transfer case gear oil
- rear axle gear oil
- front axle gear oil
- power steering fluid
- power brake fluid
- antifreeze

Tomorrow I need to order:
- harnesses.
- steering shaft heim.

Cage & front end go to get powder coated on Monday. When I get home, I'll have 3 days to:

- reinstall cage & bolt up seats and harnesses.
- install steering shaft heim.
- install cooling solution.
- make floor (optional).
- drill castle nuts on steering.
- fix leak on dipstick (optional).

What's missing?


Fun! Fun! Fun!
~dso

Cajun
06-05-2003, 10:15 PM
GO MAN GO!

Your drinks the whole weekend in Mason are on me! :D

**EDIT** I think we were talking about using plate or angle for the bumper and taking it out to match the outboard perch gussets. I believe that we ixnayed tubing to save approach angle.

redcagepatrol
06-06-2003, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by davido

- add fluids and fire it up! :D

- drill castle nuts on steering.

~dso

fire it up? - better cross your fingers, put in a couple hours for troubleshooting

drill castle nuts? why?

powder coat cage? it's just going to get scraped by rocks. Buy some rattle cans like you did with the body.

Have fun, hope you are taking a couple extra days off to finish it.

Good luck:D

JB
06-06-2003, 12:50 PM
Where are you getting stuff powder coated?

davido
06-06-2003, 02:35 PM
R&B Industries in Navasota. Talk to David. www.campfireonline.com

Powder coating gives it a really nice look, but I may need to wait until after I have a couple runs under my belt, just to make sure I don't need anything else added to it. But do I really want to waste the $12 on two cans of spray paint? :D

mudtoy67
06-06-2003, 04:33 PM
Sounds like you're getting close Dave! Finally we'll have two Cruisers to team up on all these Jeeps! :D

redcagepatrol
06-09-2003, 07:45 AM
how'd the crunch weekend go? get everything done?

BMFScout
06-09-2003, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by redcagepatrol


fire it up? - better cross your fingers, put in a couple hours for troubleshooting

Good luck:D

It is a carb'ed small block chevy, as soon as that thing gets gas it will run like a kitten, I would bet money on it

davido
06-09-2003, 10:58 AM
Well, things went pretty well. I didn't have any strong help out there so I didn't get the skid plate done. After getting the seats in, I had to rethink the harness mounting points. That's only an hour or two from being finished. It'll go quick once the harnesses are in.

While I was out buying fluids, I realized that I still hadn't fixed my clutch master cylinder. Knowing that I wouldn't be able to push the clutch in, I gave up on trying to start it. It does turn over though. I need to reattach the plug wires and add oil, other than that, I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that the last two years of rest have been good to the motor. I did a bunch of "little things" all weekend.

Between having to get it done over the weekend and not being confident in this being the final design, I painted the cage and front hoop areas. I got the diagonal braces added to the front bars. I'm going to be mounting the batteries to them. That's another couple of hours.

The throttle cable is the major missing link at this point. I need to look at Ritchey's to see how that's done. If it makes it to it's first run next weekend, then it's going with a big hole in the floor. The bumper also needs more work, another three to four hours. I think I can do one of those projects a night, maybe three in two nights. But I'll still need some help for the skid plate. Andy, are you taking off Friday?

It's still close. It could go either way at this point.

~dso

BMFScout
06-09-2003, 11:09 AM
looks ****ing cool man, how much you pay per hour, I'm unemployed:D :flipoff2:

Cajun
06-09-2003, 11:20 AM
Damn, that thing is looking sexy! Yes I'm taking off Friday the 20th. If you're hinting at last minute work, just give me a time and I'm there.

Great work the past couple of weeks, amigo.

davido
06-09-2003, 11:27 AM
Cool!

Yeah, I'm going to be busting my butt when I get back. I'm hoping to work late Tuesday & Wednesday to get caught up. Probably work until 7 or 8, then hit the Cruiser for a couple of hours. Get out at a decent time on Thursday and work late that night. Answer some emails from home on Friday and work on finish ups. Crazy to be this close...

~dso

davido
06-09-2003, 11:43 AM
Shouldn't take long. I would think about 3 hours or so. PM me your phone number and I'll drop you a line next week when I get back. Thanks for the offer.

~dso

redcagepatrol
06-09-2003, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by BMFScout


It is a carb'ed small block chevy, as soon as that thing gets gas it will run like a kitten, I would bet money on it

thought it was fuel injected, should have no problem with the carb till it gets to the trail... It took me forever to get all my messed up sensors / crazy wiring working right.

eight
06-09-2003, 02:40 PM
Is there a reason you can't just start it in neutral?

davido
06-09-2003, 02:57 PM
I could have, but I knew I wouldn't get to drive it, so why bother.

redcagepatrol
06-20-2003, 07:40 AM
WILL IT BE READY???

davido
06-20-2003, 08:44 AM
I guess we'll see. Andy and I both took off today. We have our todo list. Either way we'll be there, just not sure if we'll have a POS Cruiser in tow or not. If anyone wants to help, we'll be around the house all day.... across from the White Rhino.

~dso

davido
11-04-2003, 05:13 PM
Wow! Almost 5 mos. later....


Well after a little drinking on Saturday, I somehow got Freddy and Jimmy to agree to come by Sunday to help get the Cruiser running. It hasn't run since I pulled it on the trailer at Katemcy. We talked about noonish. Well noon became one became threeish but we got on it and started making quick progress. We git it started and purring like a tiger. We turned it off so that Freddy could get the timing tab straighted out so that we could put the gun on it. Then crazy **** started happening. It wouldn't start. We worked on it that night until getting too hungry to continue (and because we needed parts late on a Sunday night). They Brothers McBrune decided to stay in Aggieland for the night and get some parts the next morning and take another stab at it. Freddy hated the idea of getting stumped. After a run to the parts store, we had every single electrical component in the distributor replaced. Still no fire. After checking, double-checking, and then some, Jimmy finally noticed a slightly cooked wire on the new coil. After a run to the parts store and installation, BAM, it runs again. I even started it last night and this morning for good measure. SO COOL!

Now the props. I give mad props to the BMF crew. Freddy displayed his 350 guruness and made me a true believer. Guys, I can't thank you enough. :cheers: :cheers: I had a big **** eatin' grin :D all day Monday after we got it running. I'm stoked!

Now I can move on and get my other little things knocked out. Hopefully it will be done soon. Maybe for SA?.... Naaa.

:) ~dso

davido
11-10-2003, 08:18 PM
Well, after Freddy and Jimmy made it much easier to move around, things have started coming together. Cody and Ryan (Hughes Fab) helped this weekend with the skid plate. Made short work of that. I dropped it off today for the 45* bends on the ends. I'll be done by Wednesday. It's very flat.

The intake now has all of the bolts it should. I had to perform a little surgery on the inside of the tank to make the intake hose wouldn't come off again. Installing that hose clamp was fun to say the least. Cody also did some much needed trimming to the rear quarter. I didn't want to, but it was necessary. It ramps 800 - 900? maybe forwards and over 1000 backwards. It doesn't touch on the bump stops or anything either way, the springs just stop giving. I'm happy with it though.

I DROVE the Cruiser to Bryan Muffler to have the leaks sealed. They wanted to charge me $80 on the first call. Then $110 - $130 on the later calls. It took several calls to work it out. Long story short, they owed me a leak test since it wasn't running when I had the exhaust done. They said to bring it back when it was running and they would take care of it. They weren't happy about having to honor that today. First they said it didn't have leaks. Then when I said "what about on the left manifold?". "I'm not sure, I'll check with the guys again." Calls me back, "Oh, yeah, there was a little leak there..... anyway, trying to keep it short... Save your receipts when dealing with them. You might even want to be sure to get everything in writing. When I drove up, he remembered having to push it onto a trailer when I was done, but he couldn't remember whether or not they had installed the manifolds. Go figure.

It's now at Bryan Radiator fixing my ****up. That will also be done tomorrow. Then it's fixing the leak at the steering box, flushing and filling the system, and bleeding the brakes again. Hopefully that will lead to power steering and real braking power. As it is now, I really have to muscle the 42s around corners and "lead" it a lot on stopping. Downshifting is handy.


Still left:

- Finishing the floor
- Finding out why the freakin' headlights don't work (I know it's got to be a fuse, I just can't find the damn thing)
- Adding a few bars to the cage. Diagonals.
- Finishing out the shoulder belt mounts.
- Finishing out some type of inner fender.
- Add bar to front hoop (Cruiser style).
- Adjusting the steering to "center" everything.
- Weld or install Detroits in front and rear.
- Attach tailgates (with license plate).

... I'm sure a few other things...

...but nothing that will keep me from wheeling it in between. :D In just three short years, it's just about trail ready. Post pics Scott!

PS - Mental note. Just because you're able to get it in the garage, it doesn't mean that you'll be able to get it out... once you air up the tires. Oops. I didn't need that molding anyway.

~dso :texas:

redcagepatrol
11-10-2003, 09:10 PM
here ya go - Camera doesn't like the dark...

aggielr
11-10-2003, 09:11 PM
nice, glad to see ya got to drive it and are ready to work on it again, such a good feelin eh?

redcagepatrol
11-10-2003, 09:12 PM
another

Violentv8toy
11-10-2003, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by davido
I DROVE the Cruiser to Bryan Muffler to have the leaks sealed. They wanted to charge me $80 on the first call. Then $110 - $130 on the later calls. It took several calls to work it out. Long story short, they owed me a leak test since it wasn't running when I had the exhaust done. They said to bring it back when it was running and they would take care of it. They weren't happy about having to honor that today. First they said it didn't have leaks. Then when I said "what about on the left manifold?". "I'm not sure, I'll check with the guys again." Calls me back, "Oh, yeah, there was a little leak there..... anyway, trying to keep it short... Save your receipts when dealing with them. You might even want to be sure to get everything in writing. When I drove up, he remembered having to push it onto a trailer when I was done, but he couldn't remember whether or not they had installed the manifolds. Go figure.


hehe...funny you should say that. I blew a fuse getting my toy off the trailer today and they said that it was OK, but he said he couldnt guarantee the work around the frame rails that they wouldnt leak if he couldnt start it up...he said that about 4 different times to make sure i understood. I got er runnin' though.

Cajun
11-10-2003, 09:40 PM
Congrats man, glad to see you're making headway!

stinger7401
11-10-2003, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by davido
...but nothing that will keep me from wheeling it in between. :D In just three short years, it's just about trail ready.

~dso :texas:

Hmmmmmm can we say San Antonio? C'mon don't puss out now....

AgDieseler
11-10-2003, 10:54 PM
Good job man. It looks like patience has paid off.:cheers:

robertf03
11-10-2003, 11:49 PM
Looks good Dave

on that headlight....
Theres no fuse for the headlights on the gv10 kit. Theres the red main power wire that tee's off to the steering column and then to the headlight switch, so if the truck starts, then you are at least getting power to the headlight switch. check the crimps on that and test for power to the dimmer switch. Not familiar with column mounted dimmer switches so your on your own after that.

StevenAg03
11-11-2003, 12:05 AM
man that thing sure has come a long way since this pic was taken a few short months...err year or so ago...:flipoff2:


what did you end up having to do to the rear fenders? got any close up pics of em?

davido
11-11-2003, 12:16 AM
Thanks for the props guys.

Nick, we have OPAs tix for Friday, but since you didn't catch this the other night at Fitz's, yes, we're planning on being in Dirty SA late Friday night. Wheeling Saturday and coming back that evening (previous engagements).

Thanks for the tip Rob. I'll check that stuff when I get it back tomorrow. I'll also take some pics of the back. I drew it out and Cody cut it off. It wraps around the corner and comes down at a 45* angle, all at the same time... if that makes sense. It's not a "T" back which is the main thing that I wanted to stay away from. We also had to cut off the end of the rear bumper.

Again, I'm not done yet, but I really can taste it now. Andy, we'll have to make a trip in the next couple of months.... maybe after season is over.

~dso

aggielr
11-11-2003, 02:41 AM
how bout this one i dug up, back on dexter

Cajun
11-11-2003, 07:07 AM
We're trying to get this thing done to make a trip to Gilmer the weekend of the 22nd. There are a couple of guys from here, believe it or not, going that weekend.

When is the SA trip, and when is the post-finals Clayton trip?

stinger7401
11-11-2003, 07:52 AM
San Antonio is this weekend.....Sorry david, kinda dont remeber the conversation at Fitz's:cheers:

Shaggy
11-11-2003, 10:26 AM
holy crap... didnt think i would ever see this day... congrats man

mark
11-11-2003, 10:58 AM
Dave,

Check the ground for the headlights. As I recall, we grounded it to the frame on the passenger side, but I am getting old and senile so I may be wrong.

I'm cold and there are wolves after me...

-Mark
Writing from SoCo today...

davido
12-13-2004, 03:07 PM
Your stuff looks good Scott!

I was also somewhat busy. I finally mounted my skid plate, got my transfercase "foot" welded & mounted, and upped to 8 connected body mounts instead of the previous 3 1/2 (included cutting out the rusted rear corners and welding in some square tubing). Grind and paint, smoke and mirrors, and it's done.

Looks like the hydro assist, locked/welded front, and antiwrap bars will have to wait until next time. Oh well, something to look forward to. That and changing the oil.

A couple of weekends ago, we got most of the gauges wired up. Lights all working. Wired the fan to the accessory switch (with manual override), and cut the draglink so that it would turn equally both ways. I'm ready for the next round.

davido
11-21-2007, 04:54 PM
Hmm. It's been a while.

If not for deadlines, nothing would get done. So off we go again. My beautiful bride drove down to Pasadena yesterday to pick up our "new" TBI 350 that Flem found for me on Craigslist. Thanks again. I had decided against the 5.3 after talking to Scott about the ending pricetag. Here are the things I'm working on:

flywheel - it has an auto one, I need a standard trans one.

clutch - need to order one
bell housing - need a new one since the old one is in the bus
power steering - I'll likely have to rework the hoses
air compressor - It has an AC compressor, but that will likely wait until the next deadline
clutch slave - I'll need to get a new Cruiser slave and build another mount, old one on the bus
motor mounts - will have to build some, should be easy, engine has C-mounts
wiring - will need some Flemboni magic on this one because I'm electric dumb.
computer - check. Flem picked one up today for $10
fuel pump & return line - may take a few trips to the parts store

I think that's about it. Hoping to have it on the trailer on the way to Clayton in a few short weeks.

Jackasic
11-21-2007, 05:06 PM
bring that biznatch over, i'll be back friday.

colman
11-21-2007, 07:51 PM
get the f250 fuel pump, and i know where a bell housing is and i think he wanted 75 for it but if you are interested i will call and ask. it is currently bolted to a 465 that is also for sale(4wd)

davido
11-21-2007, 08:31 PM
Will do Brandon.

Let me know Colman, but for $75 I would think it would come with that trans. I was thinking they were pretty cheap.

robertf03
11-21-2007, 09:05 PM
couldn't find any easy to get to bellhousings today.

http://dallas.craigslist.org/pts/484453525.html

This one has the flywheel, but don't you need a 4wd sm465, or does the klune adapter work on both?

davido
11-22-2007, 01:31 AM
This is more my speed: http://austin.craigslist.org/pts/447237621.html

Graystroke
11-22-2007, 02:47 AM
flem's find has all the newest goodies..1991 was the last year for the 465. I think it has a back up sensor on it as well so it will light the back up lights...aren't the bearings and some other upgrades w/ that tranny? Fred, didn't you do some digging on this topic?

Fredo
11-22-2007, 08:38 AM
no, the transmission I did research on gm quit using in 1967. But it does have a reverse light switch on it.

Jackasic
11-22-2007, 11:18 AM
for 1500 you could have had the grey truck with its NV4500 and motor.

agjohn02
11-22-2007, 08:00 PM
jerry's got a tpi for sale

Sharpe
11-24-2007, 01:07 PM
flem's find has all the newest goodies..1991 was the last year for the 465. I think it has a back up sensor on it as well so it will light the back up lights...aren't the bearings and some other upgrades w/ that tranny? Fred, didn't you do some digging on this topic?
85 and later SM465's came with hydraulic clutches (as opposed to mechanical) and 32 spline outputs (as opposed to 10). Regardless of year, they all had reverse light switches.

redcagepatrol
11-26-2007, 10:09 AM
some have the neutral safety switch also (which is wierd for a manual...). 10 splines were typical for the 4x4 versions, 32 for the 2wd

EDIT - Lynda's has both, it's a 10 spline

DRAGOONRANCH
11-26-2007, 11:30 AM
some have the neutral safety switch also (which is wierd for a manual...). 10 splines were typical for the 4x4 versions, 32 for the 2wd

EDIT - Lynda's has both, it's a 10 spline

It's a shame you didn't put a see-thru cover on that bling Scott.... -pimp-

Sharpe
11-26-2007, 12:39 PM
2wd 465's had 35 spline outputs regardless of year. 4x4 versions had 10 spline until 85, then 32. Everyone I have ever seen has a neutral safety switch as well.

davido
11-26-2007, 12:45 PM
WTF is a neutral safety switch?

mudtoy67
11-26-2007, 12:46 PM
Disables the starter solenoid so you can't start in gear.

jerryg79
11-26-2007, 12:48 PM
Disables the starter solenoid so you can't start in gear.

you should have come to karls on sat....jones had a different take on it :gigem:

redcagepatrol
11-26-2007, 12:48 PM
WTF is a neutral safety switch?
you don't need it

mudtoy67
11-26-2007, 12:51 PM
you should have come to karls on sat....jones had a different take on it :gigem:

Does Karl's garage now have another "door"? :D

jerryg79
11-26-2007, 12:55 PM
Does Karl's garage now have another "door"? :D

no, jones was convinced the injectors werent firing due to a neutral safety switch, karl disagreed, jones restated, karl disagreed, jones restated and questioned karl's engineerhood, engineer wang's came out, jones lost.

haha karl is in france right now.

DRAGOONRANCH
11-26-2007, 11:44 PM
2wd 465's had 35 spline outputs regardless of year. 4x4 versions had 10 spline until 85, then 32. Everyone I have ever seen has a neutral safety switch as well.


where is said switch on said tranny?

Edit: I know of a clutch switch that won't let it start w/o the clutch being depressed, but not of one on the transmission...

Reckless
11-27-2007, 12:02 AM
Ed, ya still got that 205 for sale?

DRAGOONRANCH
11-27-2007, 12:13 AM
yeah, its in the red shed at the house.

Reckless
11-27-2007, 12:14 AM
Driver or passenger drop?

DRAGOONRANCH
11-27-2007, 12:16 AM
pass

Reckless
11-27-2007, 12:16 AM
Ill pm ya an offer tommorow.

DRAGOONRANCH
11-27-2007, 12:16 AM
rear 1310/1350??? yoke is broken, other than that in good shape.

DRAGOONRANCH
11-27-2007, 12:17 AM
aight.

davido
11-27-2007, 10:21 AM
I'm picking up parts today from O' Reilly Auto Parts. Have a lead on the two remaining parts (bell housing & exhaust manifolds). Off and running.

Seth
11-27-2007, 10:36 AM
gimme a call if you need help sometime. I think you have my number.

DRAGOONRANCH
11-27-2007, 11:06 AM
I think you have my number. ;)


what???

DRAGOONRANCH
11-27-2007, 11:07 AM
he's married you perv....

davido
11-30-2007, 01:24 AM
Good one Ed!

I picked up a bell housing today. The last big peice of this weekend's puzzle. That added to my long list of goodies from O'Relly the other day. We're on for tomorrow night. We'll be at Brandini's shop if anyone wants to come hang out. We're planning on moving the Cruiser over there and will start putting it together. If we make excellent progress, we may get it stabbed tomorrow night. Hopefully things go quickly. If not, we have the weekend. :)

Jackasic
11-30-2007, 04:02 AM
give me a call tomorrow dave, i am heading out of town right after lunch. I'll get you the keys.

DRAGOONRANCH
11-30-2007, 09:37 AM
Thanks Dave, I aim to please. Take plenty of "I am Cox, ruler of Webworld, the great bringer of old teaser pictures of "my" heep build" spoiler pics while you are there. :D

davido
11-30-2007, 12:48 PM
Scored some replacement Corvette exhaust manifolds also.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230195261521

Yeah me. :)

Next, I'm posting the list of parts that I bought for my future reference. TAMOR Forums = My Personal Build Wiki

davido
12-02-2007, 02:46 AM
Robert and Seth helped tonight. The engine is in and stabbed. Turns out that you DO need to put the clutch fork on before you stab it. Doh. But just 10 - 15 minutes later we had it back on there. We're becoming pros at stabbing. :)

Steering cooler and filter installed. Flem got about half of the wiring harness together. Seth drank lots of beer and helped us wiggle the engine. The Pete drank beer and passed tools. Thanks for the help guys.

We'll be out there tomorrow if anyone wants to come visit. Motor mounts are the big missing peice right now. Then running all of the fule lines. Mount the steering heim. Keep our fingers crossed for no surprises. Fill it with fluids and go turn some donuts with straight heads. No exhaust manifolds yet. Hopefully they'll be in by late next week so I can get it by the shop for installation and any tweaks.

davido
12-02-2007, 04:24 AM
I have a TBI Power Steering Pump Pulley Puller that I bought in case anyone needs one. I'm storing it in the Cruiser so I'll have it handy.

Parts from O'Reilly:

E2000 - Electric Fuel Pump - 1985 F150 302 - $120
33097 - WIX Inline Fuel Filter - Low Pressure for use before E2000 - $11
33481BP - Fuel Filter - High Pressure for use after E2000 - $6
K060956 - Serpentine Belt - 1990 Suburban TBI 350 - $17
58964 - WIX In-Line Transmission Fluid Filter - $17
401- Hayden Transmission Fluid Cooler - $25
CSA37215 - Best Brakes Clutch Slave Cylinder - 1970 FJ40 - $25
NU1909 - Dynapak Clutch - GM V/8 1973-95 (w/SM465 in this case) - $120
FW96529 - Dynapak Flywheel 168 tooth - $86
910 - Mr. Gasket flywheel bolts - $6
912 - Mr. Gasket pressure plate bolts - $8

Other parts that I may need for future reference:

Toyota External Slave Cylinder - 31470-60022
- Push Rod - 31473
- Push Rod Nut - 94120-41000
- Push Rod End Nut - 31475
Clutch Hose, 7/70-9/71, FJ40 143-4C108 - $42

Seth
12-02-2007, 11:00 AM
Not even a mention of my sweet computer bracket, guess I'll have to go back out today and redeem myself.

Seth
12-02-2007, 11:41 AM
resizing pics sucks.

davido
12-04-2007, 01:31 AM
Surprise when I opened the clutch slave, it included the push rod. One more part down. I ordered the slave hose from the Toyota dealer today. $27 and 10 days to get it in. I pulled the slave bracket off of the bus and copied it. Man, that made it way easier than starting from scratch again. 15 minutes and I'm ready to weld in the little tubing parts.... which I need to buy tubing tomorrow for it. Those tubes and two nuts welded in place and it's done. Motor mounts are all welded up. Trying to figure out how I can bolt them in place. Not sure if it's going to work. I might have to measure. ;) Painted the steering heim mount. Need the two nuts for it. Made one mount for the fuel parts. Need two more. Buying steel and a few odd and end parts tomorrow.

Thanks Flem for more work on the harness. Got it close enough tonight to figure out the starter is hosed. Robbie was going to make a shocker and build a floor, but we ran out of time. I'm thinking sheet metal screws and a giant mud flap would be perfect. Built in boot. :)

agjohn02
12-04-2007, 11:05 AM
Robbie was going to make a shocker


???

BMFScout
12-04-2007, 11:20 AM
more like this?!

JeepPhisherman
12-04-2007, 12:02 PM
Nice!

davido
12-04-2007, 12:30 PM
Yes, just like that.

I figured everyone would be surprised if I showed up with a floor. It's only been on the trail for about 5 - 6 years. Why put a floor in now?

DRAGOONRANCH
12-04-2007, 12:32 PM
more like this?!


From the look on your face, it looks like it smelt like rotten cabbage...

BMFScout
12-04-2007, 12:38 PM
The Pete drank beer and passed tools.

I'm glad The Pete found TAMOR, he's a good fit. :gigem:

Seth
12-04-2007, 01:30 PM
I agree, we need to see if we can get him addicted to the boards.

DRAGOONRANCH
12-04-2007, 11:08 PM
I agree, we need to see if we can get him addicted to the boards.


RESISTANCE IS FUTILE...

http://daisydownunder.com/images/7of9-10s.jpg

Seth
12-04-2007, 11:14 PM
That looks like encino man dressed up as a woman.

DRAGOONRANCH
12-04-2007, 11:29 PM
Hey, it's not my fault you have Brandon Frasier's face burned into your mind.....

I tried linking other pictures, but the work filter kept blocking them. BOO again.

robertf03
12-05-2007, 01:45 AM
radiator hoses
bolts for the battery cables
c.e. light
relays

Seth
12-05-2007, 10:52 AM
that what yall did, or what you need?

Fredo
12-05-2007, 11:23 AM
radiator hoses
bolts for the battery cables
c.e. light
relays


What are, things that you always look for at 4am the night before leaving on an offroad trip?

robertf03
12-05-2007, 12:13 PM
you are correct sir

davido
12-07-2007, 01:44 AM
That's awesome Fredo.

Yes, we're close. Bryan Hose & Gasket tomorrow. Need buy and run fuel line. Clutch is awaiting a hose, bracket is done, slave mounted. Steering shaft reconnected, heim bracket done. Steering fluid cooler and filter installed. Fuel pump and filter mounts are done. Motor mounts are completed, but need installing. Wiring harness is completed and nearly loomed. I actually loomed a few other wires. Computer bracket is done (Holla Seth).

Things that won't get done this trip:

- Warn 8274 still has broken mount (under part #77)
http://warn.com/truck/ReplacementParts/parts/3/srrpl85-86.pdf
- air compressor won't get connected with oiler and filter.

Other old stuff:

- rock lights
- seat covers. I still haven't decided what to do there.
- floor. why bother at this point right?
- rotate tires. Probably not going to get done unless the shop air starts working.
- e-brake. needs wire and handle.
- Klune shifter. needs mount.
- drop tank between frame.
- radio
- cb
- accessory plugs
- cutting brakes (useless with welded rear)

Probably a few other odds and ends that won't get done because they don't keep me from driving it. :)

Seth
12-07-2007, 11:14 AM
The klune shifter mount might be one thing that would be relatively easy to do and mark off the list just for grins. I'll call ya'll tonight and maybe stop by. perhaps w/some fresh mill dogs.

Graystroke
12-07-2007, 11:34 AM
I thought you were doing the mudflap for floor? that would take 10 min to do w/ some self tapping sheetmetal screws. get seth to find you an old flap at work.

davido
12-09-2007, 07:27 PM
I might. It's not on the short list for the trip. I didn't see anything to use when I was looking around. Seth doesn't need to get fired over a mudflap.

Doug Krebs
12-09-2007, 07:53 PM
about your cutting brakes...

I've read on the internet that people have better success with locking up both rear tires and doing a front dig. I've never actually seen a comparison in person so who knows...

Graystroke
12-09-2007, 07:57 PM
I was refering to one that didn't pass DOT...they have to be something like no more than 12" from the ground...as they wear out where they are mounted usually people keep moving them up to get fresh rubber...after a couple of times they get too short.

redcagepatrol
12-09-2007, 09:01 PM
about your cutting brakes...

I've read on the internet that people have better success with locking up both rear tires and doing a front dig. I've never actually seen a comparison in person so who knows...
Yes, this is true, works just as good

davido
12-10-2007, 01:55 AM
Gotcha. The motor mounts are welded in. A little sloppy, but I don't think it's going anywhere. We turned the motor over. It's getting spark. Fuel line fittings will be done tomorrow. Fuel plumbing will be done tomorrow. Flem got as far on it as we could tonight. A few more odds and ends to pick up tomorrow. Still waiting on the exhaust manifolds and the clutch hose. A little nervous about that, but I guess I can steal them off of the bus on Wednesday night if I need to.

Robert, what's that switch company that you were talking about?

Sharpe
12-10-2007, 02:26 AM
www.12voltguy.com

robertf03
12-10-2007, 07:10 AM
http://www.waytekwire.com/

If you want a thin piece of metal to go behind it with labels like that link above I've got an idea that popped into my head when thinking of how to label the fuse panel.

copper, anodizing dye, and some of that circuit etch solution, and an old school laser printer. It would look like a cross between a brewery, a world war 2 jeep shifting plaque, and one of karl's dads hit or miss engines.

http://www.miladisplays.com/photometalnmplts/copper_etched_and_filled.jpg

KrazyKarl02
12-10-2007, 07:59 AM
My dad does in fact do that.

Graystroke
12-10-2007, 09:43 AM
do you need manifolds? check the local machine shops...they probably have a set if used.

DRAGOONRANCH
12-10-2007, 10:52 AM
http://www.waytekwire.com/

If you want a thin piece of metal to go behind it with labels like that link above I've got an idea that popped into my head when thinking of how to label the fuse panel.

copper, anodizing dye, and some of that circuit etch solution, and an old school laser printer. It would look like a cross between a brewery, a world war 2 jeep shifting plaque, and one of karl's dads hit or miss engines.

http://www.miladisplays.com/photometalnmplts/copper_etched_and_filled.jpg

That would be peemp. -pimp-

davido
12-10-2007, 11:22 AM
www.12voltguy.com

$35? That's rich.

I'm not spending that much on switches. At least not for this rig.


EDIT: The breakers are cool though.

DRAGOONRANCH
12-10-2007, 11:34 AM
He's Back!!!!!!!11!!1!1!!1

robertf03
12-12-2007, 02:45 AM
got it running after a pit crew style throttle body rebuild. fired up on the first attempt

redcagepatrol
12-12-2007, 08:38 AM
Cool - hope it's ready for some extreme trails, were going to hit them hard right away...

Doug Krebs
12-12-2007, 09:50 AM
Cool - hope it's ready for some extreme trails, were going to hit them hard right away...

If you only knew what that did to me. :rainbow:

davido
12-12-2007, 01:52 PM
Started last night. Just about everything is done except for the steering pump, exhaust manifolds, and slave cylinder hose.

No manifolds in the mail yet. Atkinson Toyota let me down on the slave cylinder hose also. That really pisses me off. 2 weeks to get both of them in and neither made it. After looking more, I think the parts store could have ordered the hose afterall. But not now b/c it's too late. I think it's the same as the brake hose. Ebay dickhead is not responding to any of my emails and his phone number is wrong. He also has bad feedback for slow shipment. ****. ****. ****.

Oh yeah. Tried to weld a bolt onto the broken part on the winch. Now it doesn't work either. Did I say **** **** **** yet?

bburris
12-12-2007, 01:56 PM
If you paid with paypal be sure to start a dispute for the charge. It should lock his account which usually warrants some response.

Can Bryan Hose not whip up a slave cylinder hose for your application?

mudtoy67
12-12-2007, 02:13 PM
Will ramhead manifolds work? I have some....

agjohn02
12-12-2007, 02:15 PM
Will ramhead manifolds work? I have some....


didnt i see one of these laying next to the cruiser?

Seth
12-12-2007, 02:22 PM
Dave I talked to wayne today, and he said he might have or know where some center dump manifolds are. Lemme know if you want to persure further.

Seth
12-12-2007, 02:22 PM
and by persure, I mean persue.

uglyota
12-12-2007, 02:25 PM
purssue?
pressrue?
:flipoff2:

BMFScout
12-12-2007, 02:25 PM
You need center dump? I gave Ed some rear dump ones that I don't know if he used or not.

davido
12-12-2007, 03:35 PM
Yes, I need some (Seth & Brian). The mail is in and I don't think they're here. This is what I had on there:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160189784628

I paid by MO. ****er. Anyone know anyone who lives in VA that can burn a house down?

PS - I also have a set of stock TBI truck manifolds if anyone needs some.

Fredo
12-12-2007, 03:54 PM
Shipman is pretty close to VA isn't he? If not, I bet "he knows a guy"

Sharpe
12-12-2007, 04:00 PM
I paid by MO. ****er. Anyone know anyone who lives in VA that can burn a house down?

Gil (usmcDoc) on pirate. He has alot of guns. :gigem:

Go to the post office and ask them about pursuing interstate mail fraud charges. Receiving a postal money order as payment is a bad way to try to screw people over.

Doug Krebs
12-12-2007, 04:34 PM
Bryan hose and gasket should be able to make a slave hose. They made mind a couple of years ago. They have a shat load of fittings to accommodate most things.

davido
12-13-2007, 02:55 AM
That dick will probably send it eventually. It will just obviously be after the date that I needed it. Bad feedback here I come.

So on to the good news. Exhaust and slave hose came off of the bus clean. Nothing broke. Got them installed back on the Cruiser. The easiest exhaust I've ever dealt with. I got rid of that hose crap on the top of the manifolds. Steering pump back on. Pulley on. Belt on. Clutch is bled.

I noticed that two of the four kingpin bolts (I don't have studs) were broken. I welded on nuts and backed them out. Getting new ones in the morning. It's ready to go back together. I picked up new plugs, wires, a rotor and a cap JIK. It runs pretty good!

Tomorrow: Skid plate needs to be bolted back up. The new D60 bolts need to go on once I get them. Computer bracket needs to be attached. The oil pressure sending unit is probably a switch, not a sender. Need to trade that out tomorrow. Floor peice needs to be bolted down. Inline fuel filter needs to be added before the pump. That's about it. It's almost ready to go!

I'm probably going to have to get a remote reservoir for the steering. I've been fighting it, but I think it's inevitable. May even require a PSC pump. I definitely need a new ram. I'll see how it works this trip.

Much thanks to Robert and Seth for all of the help and to Brandon for the use of the shop. Without the shop it would have been a giant PITA and wouldn't have gotten done. Without Flem and Seth, the engine would probably still be sitting on the garage floor. Thanks guys, you made the last two weeks of late nights fun.

Much beer to be drank this weekend.

mudtoy67
12-13-2007, 08:24 AM
Are you trying to use the oil pressure switch for your gauge? Because that should being going to the computer to shut off the fuel pump if the oil pressure drops. But it sounds like you got it running without it so :confused2 I guess you've got the fuel pump run directly from a switch?

Fredo
12-13-2007, 09:08 AM
Yeah, in a FlemCo harness, the oil pressure safety switch is removed from the system. No need for that **** in an offroad rig that can sometimes run on it's side with no oil pressure. :D Actually, the habit started from when we were doing the IH's that didn't make enough oil pressure at idle to register on the gauge. heh.

mudtoy67
12-13-2007, 09:15 AM
Damn. I gotta get me some of that FlemCo on my Cruiser! :gigem:

Fredo
12-13-2007, 09:26 AM
Floor peice needs to be bolted down.


wha?? you actually had time to make a floor? :eek:

davido
12-13-2007, 11:06 AM
No no no. Just the bell housing cover peice that was on there. Let's not get carried away. :)