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AgDieseler
10-22-2003, 12:23 PM
I'm going to re-gear the suburban since the 4.10s aren't cutting it for towing on the highway. At 65 mph (the medium towing speed), I'm just outside of my engine's power band. I'm planning on 37" MTRs in the future, and after doing the math, 4.88s will get me where I want to be - just over 2000 rpms @ 65. Also, 5.13s are mighty tempting. :D

What are the better gear manufacturers out there, and which ones are to be avoided?
bburris
10-22-2003, 01:04 PM
Don't buy Genuine Gear since you put a lot of miles on your Sub. I know, I know...a lot of people in the club use them and they're ok, but there are a whole lot of other people that use them and have gotten a whole lot of use out of the lifetime warranty. They look like Jap crap, too.

Precision Gear makes Ford Motorsports gears (I've been told and have read this). I put them in my 8.8 and the gears just look better than the D30 Genuine gears (they were cheap, shaddup).

I haven't ever looked for 14 bolt gears, but you may be limited in selection because of yours. The deepest you could get for a while was 4.56s, and now the lowest available is 5.13s. You may just go through whatever most recent Four Wheeler or whatever you have and start surfing the websites of gear manufacturers. I'd post links, but they're all on my old computer...
BigRedFord04
10-22-2003, 03:03 PM
Yukon, Precision, and Richmond are the top of the line....and Spicer if you can find 'em.
StevenAg03
10-22-2003, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by bburris
Don't buy Genuine Gear since you put a lot of miles on your Sub. I know, I know...a lot of people in the club use them and they're ok, but there are a whole lot of other people that use them and have gotten a whole lot of use out of the lifetime warranty. They look like Jap crap, too.

Precision Gear makes Ford Motorsports gears (I've been told and have read this). I put them in my 8.8 and the gears just look better than the D30 Genuine gears (they were cheap, shaddup).

I haven't ever looked for 14 bolt gears, but you may be limited in selection because of yours. The deepest you could get for a while was 4.56s, and now the lowest available is 5.13s. You may just go through whatever most recent Four Wheeler or whatever you have and start surfing the websites of gear manufacturers. I'd post links, but they're all on my old computer...



ginuine gears are the shiznit for offroad use....they have a life time warrenty even if you install them wrong...
bburris
10-22-2003, 05:32 PM
but David doesn't wheel :flipoff2:
AgDieseler
10-22-2003, 05:48 PM
I think lifetime warranties are good for a lot of things, but gears? I'll pass. Just give me OEM quality. I think I'll go with 5.13 Precision.
StevenAg03
10-22-2003, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by AgDieseler
I think lifetime warranties are good for a lot of things, but gears? I'll pass. Just give me OEM quality. I think I'll go with 5.13 Precision.


thats possibly the dumbest thing i have ever heard. your saying that if spicer offered a lifetime warrenty on gears you would tell them you werent gonna buy them cause of it? maybe its just worded wrong...
JB
10-22-2003, 06:48 PM
I think he is just saying that gears are not something that you want to have to use a warranty on. You dont want them to get ****ed up b/c its a PITA to deal with.
AgDieseler
10-22-2003, 06:53 PM
Yeah, I kinda worded it wrong, but John filled in the gap. I meant that I wouldn't buy gears solely based on a replacement warranty. Top quality gears carry the intangible warranty of never having to deal with them again after a proper setup and break in.
BigRedFord04
10-22-2003, 06:53 PM
yes, i am also not a poocie

lifetime warranty is good on anything. but remember what ol' Tommy Boy said, "The reason why they have a guarrantee on the box is because they know all they sold you is a guarranteed piece of ****. Hell, I can take a crap in a box and slap a guarrantee on it for you, if that's what you want."
AgDieseler
10-22-2003, 06:55 PM
True Dat.
StevenAg03
10-22-2003, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by JBrown89
I think he is just saying that gears are not something that you want to have to use a warranty on. You dont want them to get ****ed up b/c its a PITA to deal with.


nahhh...its not too bad...and yes i would know seeing as i have been through several rear axles...:flipoff2:
bburris
10-22-2003, 09:57 PM
How much of a PITA was it to have your truck down for a few days each time? It's worth the little extra cost to me to have gears that have a really good reputation.
bburris
10-22-2003, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by BigRedFord04
...remember what ol' Tommy Boy said, "The reason why they have a guarrantee on the box is because they know all they sold you is a guarranteed piece of ****. Hell, I can take a crap in a box and slap a guarrantee on it for you, if that's what you want."

This about sums it up I think.:laughing:
StevenAg03
10-22-2003, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by bburris
How much of a PITA was it to have your truck down for a few days each time? It's worth the little extra cost to me to have gears that have a really good reputation.



last time it wasnt much of a pain in the ass at all....i got to drive a 97 chevy half ton for two months...:flipoff2:



as for the two times before that, i had you young freshmen to cart me around...:flipoff2: :flipoff2:
bburris
10-22-2003, 10:28 PM
I guess that is true...:flipoff2:
robertf03
10-22-2003, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by AgDieseler
At 65 mph (the medium towing speed), I'm just outside of my engine's power band.



its a 6.2. there is no power band :flipoff2:
AgDieseler
10-23-2003, 12:25 AM
I would have agreed with you before the turbo, but as long as I stay between 2000 and 2300 the boost catches up quickly and maintaining speed up a hill is no problem. As it stands right now, 65 mph is doing 1750 rpm, and I lug the engine if I push on it. The EGTs rise, so there's plenty of fuel, but the exhaust velocity isn't high enough with that low of a engine speed. Above 2300, it's no problem topping out the boost with just a little more gas. I want an intercooler, badly. :D

2000-2100 @ 65 mph should do nicely.
eight
10-23-2003, 12:47 AM
Doesn't your transmission have one of those little switches that makes it so the motor will run about 2500 rpm at 65? Then when you're unloaded you can hit the switch again and cruise at 1750.
AgDieseler
10-23-2003, 12:51 AM
WOW! I forgot all about that. Duh! The old Raptors were always wired wrong, but the Art-Carr was wired properly, so the lockup circuit that switch runs off isn't even in the loop anymore. I need to put that back in.
Doug Krebs
10-23-2003, 08:44 AM
Holy **** man. How many times do you change your avatar??
AgDieseler
10-23-2003, 10:46 AM
The mullet guy avatar made me feel like I was looking at the online sex offender database every time a page loaded, so I figured it was time for change.
BigRedFord04
10-23-2003, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by Doug Krebs
Holy **** man. How many times do you change your avatar??
probably about as often as he changes his reader's rides profile :rolleyes:
Shaggy
10-23-2003, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by BigRedFord04
probably about as often as he changes his reader's rides profile :rolleyes:


***... i hear austin bitch about this all the time... great stuff
AgDieseler
07-14-2004, 07:55 AM
I'm committed now. The gears arrive today.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7907873271&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT
william_ace
07-14-2004, 10:28 AM
who makes those gears
AgDieseler
07-14-2004, 10:43 AM
They are factory Dana/Spicer gears.