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JB
02-29-2004, 11:13 PM
I know it has been talked about before, but I need some DOM now for steering. Probably 1.25"

I want it cheap(not $6/ft) and close. Am I going to have to drive to Houston or Dallas? Would Bryan Iron/Metal have some?

Chadnutz
03-01-2004, 12:20 AM
Wah wah wah. Prices of steel and scrap are high right now. Drive to Houston and factor in the time and fuel and then try to come out ahead. There is more to business than the mere price of the product. And when you find out you can't beat $6/ft too bad because I sold out.

BigRedFord04
03-01-2004, 12:37 AM
yup...i bought the cow....14.5 feet....good price too :D thank ya nutz

jerryg79
03-01-2004, 12:39 AM
Originally posted by Chadnutz
Drive to Houston and factor in the time and fuel and then try to come out ahead.

Don't forget about maintenance!!!!:flipoff2:

bburris
03-01-2004, 12:51 AM
There's a place here in Corpus that can get it, but I haven't talked to them about amounts yet. If you're looking for the same as Chadnutz had then I'll try to stop by and talk to them about it. I would probably buy some more for myself, too.

robertf03
03-01-2004, 12:55 AM
http://www.mountainoffroad.com/catalog/Rod-Tube%20Ends/rodends.htm

bburris
03-01-2004, 01:06 AM
OnlineMetals.com (http://www.onlinemetals.com/)

Chadnutz
03-01-2004, 02:01 AM
:rolleyes:

bburris
03-01-2004, 02:10 AM
you sold out...you can't whine about everyone else whining about your prices any more:flipoff2:

BigRedFord04
03-01-2004, 06:00 AM
i'll check at work tomorrow. i know we can get it, and have it delivered there. i talked to my boss a while back about being a supplier and he said if the mkt was good enough he'd probably do it. who all needs it, how much, what size, etc?

redcagepatrol
03-01-2004, 10:48 AM
1.25" DOM? I guess that you are making some steering stuff right?

Nice Avatar Nutzz...:D

spool
03-01-2004, 11:13 AM
What size exactly do you want and how much? I will be coming down from Dallas on Friday and can pick some up for you.

Troy

JB
03-01-2004, 05:38 PM
1.25" I need about 8ft.l

spool
03-01-2004, 05:44 PM
I also need to know what wall thickness you want.

Shaggy
03-01-2004, 06:35 PM
i am guessing he wants .25"... it is for steering

JB
03-01-2004, 06:39 PM
I do not know much. Just that I want 1.25" and I am using 3/4" heims, so I guess wall would be .25" I would really appreciate it if you could get me some. Let me know of a price for 8ft. Thanks Troy.

uglyota
03-01-2004, 06:44 PM
then I bet you want 1.5" x .25 wall so your ID is 1" and you can use weld-in inserts instead of threading it.
BTW I have just such an insert that was accidentally sent to me...can't remember if it's LH or RH, but half retail price if you want it (it'll save you a buck or two, and make me a buck or two).

JB
03-01-2004, 07:00 PM
I planed on using tube adapters/inserts that require a 1in inner diameter, so yeah I guess 1.5" would be better.

The adapters/inserts I was going to by are $12.25 a piece. Austin, can you make them cheaper?

Shaggy
03-01-2004, 07:03 PM
that is high... i think nutz got ours for 6$... and i know he can make them not sure how much... he makes them for xtreme and they charge like 15$

bburris
03-01-2004, 07:18 PM
You want 1.5" OD .25" wall DOM for your steering if you want to go that big. Get tube adapters from Coleman Racing (http://www.colemanracing.com/section/index.htp?id=642). They're the bottom of that list - P/Ns 15589 and 15590. Search the Jeg's website for "QA1" and you can find the best price on high quality heims that have a lifetime warranty. You can also get the required jam nuts in packs of 5 from Jeg's. You'll have to sand the inside of the DOM a little to get the inserts to slip in, but we figured out that a brake hone on a high speed drill for a couple minutes works great.

If you want to get a little more reliable with things, then use the same size DOM with a different tube adapter. I got mine from Poison Spyder (http://www.poisonspydercustoms.com/index2.html). Go to the "Steering" link below the "Tube Adapters" heading near the bottom of that page. You'll want P/Ns RTA7818 and LTA7818 to run the 7/8" shaft Chevy TREs. You'll have to sand a little for these to fit as well.

spool
03-01-2004, 07:30 PM
For 1.5 o.d. DOM .25 wall up here in dallas will be $7.25 ft plus tax. Let me know if you want me to pick it up for you. With taxes it will be around $65

Troy

Chadnutz
03-01-2004, 07:37 PM
:flipoff2:

uglyota
03-01-2004, 07:50 PM
my inserts are from sardeson...sardesonracing.com maybe?
I think you gotta call for a price on the inserts, though.
The one i have is yours for 1 (one) Shiner Bock at the next meeting :D

BigRedFord04
03-01-2004, 08:23 PM
my COST for the inserts was $30 for 10. the ones we made to sell were ~$15 each. the CNC machine is like $90/hr. i'm just curious, even tho i have DOM on my steering, why is that what everyone looks for? i talked to the owner of Mack Bolt today and he said that DOM is mild steel, just like regular tubing, but said it is more exact to the ID. before he knew i was looking for DOM he quoted me $1/ft for 1.25" OD, .120" wall tubing. if its the same material, why spend all the extra $$??

i think a lot of people confuse DOM w/ chromoly...they're not the same thing, unless you specify, and then the prices get REALLY high.

Chadnutz
03-01-2004, 08:41 PM
He has to have been talking about sch 40 pipe. I can't see how any DOM tubing could be only $1/ft.

robertf03
03-01-2004, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by BigRedFord04
if its the same material, why spend all the extra $$??

i think a lot of people confuse DOM w/ chromoly...they're not the same thing, unless you specify, and then the prices get REALLY high.

I think it needs to be seamless to use those inserts, or ream the **** out of it. also, it'd probably be stronger if the wall thickness was uniform, i'll bet hrew would bend faster than dom in a steering application.

BigRedFord04
03-01-2004, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by Chadnutz
He has to have been talking about sch 40 pipe. I can't see how any DOM tubing could be only $1/ft.
wasnt pipe....he gave the dimensions just like i asked for. It was HREW. i can see what flem means tho, the uniformity does make for evenly spread stress, instead of focusing it on a weak point.

i went back and read the "DOM vs. HREW (http://www.tamor.org/forum/upload/showthread.php?s=&threadid=690)" thread, i guess b.c. i'm now catching up to where y'all were back then. seems Triple S in Houston is the place to go. www.onlinemetals.com also seems to have some pretty decent prices, dunno how much shipping would set you back tho.

spool
03-01-2004, 09:05 PM
Standard tubing is 1018 and the dom I get is 1026 so it is a little better than standard tubing you just need to ask what you are getting.

redcagepatrol
03-02-2004, 09:54 AM
you need the DOM if you plan on slipping in inserts. If you plan on threading it, it's not a big deal. DOM is NOT seamless unless you get seamless DOM (like Troy did)

My tie rod is 1.25" DOM, .25 wall threaded. I then sleaved it with some 1.5" sch. 80 pipe. Now, I don't have to straighten it after every trip...

JB
03-03-2004, 11:53 PM
Found it for $3.50/ft. Let me know if anyone needs any.:flipoff2:

Chadnutz
03-04-2004, 12:59 AM
nice

Seth
03-05-2004, 01:32 AM
OK so hopefully yall see this - I measured the diameter of the TRE that I have today and for all i can tell it is 1". Trent told me it was a stock bronco style one. So any ideas advice on what I should do? The way I see it I can do a few things.

Buy big DOM and use the same TREs everywhere on the steering.

Tap one end with thread, then use inserts and other TREs everywhere else (kinda ghetto, but cheap)

Use inserts everywhere and buy all new TREs. I know I hear alot about the chevy one ton ones. Are they cheap or what?

Also - I need to look, but how does one attach the the drag link to the tie rod with custom fabbed steering arms?

Oh yeah - I could also use a stock tie rod with new TREs for real cheap and ghey.

BigRedFord04
03-09-2004, 08:39 PM
use heims and inserts....tapping tubing is a HUGE PITA....not to mention the cost of taps.

BMFScout
03-10-2004, 01:23 AM
use Chevy one ton tie rod ends and tubing inserts...:flipoff2: Austin...:D