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Chadnutz
03-06-2004, 01:32 PM
What is the GCWR for a one ton truck in Texas?

20,000 lbs or 26,000 lbs?

redcagepatrol
03-08-2004, 09:50 AM
depends on the truck. read what it says on your door.

It truely depends on the weight of your truck - the 2wd single cab trucks with no bed can pull the most weight.

If you had a truck that could pull the weight, it would be 26,000 lbs before you need a CDL

Chadnutz
03-08-2004, 10:43 AM
So if my GVWR is 9,000 and the trailer's is 20,000 as long as I dont exceed any axle rating, the truck rating, the trailer rating, or 26,000 I can tow it?

Truck weighs 6,000 with me in it. :D

eight
03-08-2004, 10:47 AM
Texas doesn't care what it says on the door panel, they have certain weights for each tonnage of truck. I think a one ton is 9600 for single wheels, or 10000 for dually on the truck. Truck and trailer GVCW rating can be a max of 26500 lbs. Doesn't matter if you have that weight on it or not, just that its rated to carry it. With farm plates you get 36000 lbs or somethin really high like that. The biggest trailer you can legally pull with a 1 ton, normal plates, and no CDL would be one with 2 8000 lb axles. I hear you can get a manufactured trailer rated for a lower weight by having the little plate changed out. Big travel trailers and horse trailers are underrated by the manufacturer most times for this reason. Just licensing the trailer for a lower weight won't do it. I'm not sure how you'd go about lowering the rating on a home made trailer, maybe you can do something when you apply for title for it.

Dually axles are rated at 10000 lbs. You can pull one legally with a half ton as long as the truck doesn't have too much weight on it. When they weigh you for overload ticket they can weigh each axle and one overweight will get a ticket, but most times they just weigh total, so don't piss em off.

Chadnutz
03-08-2004, 10:57 AM
On the txdot webside you could take a quiz and if the GCWR was over 26,000 you needed a CDL...

20,000 + 9,000 = 29,000

redcagepatrol
03-08-2004, 11:06 AM
my friend got a ticket for pulling an empty gooseneck that was rated for more than his F350 was rated for. (it was a dual-dual) They made him leave it on the side of the road.

I looked at Dodge and the newest 1 ton trucks on the market can pull a max of 16,400lbs, meaning that the nameplate of the trailer that you are pulling cannot say more than 16,400 pounds. The website says that the gcvw cannot be more than 23,000lbs for that truck. (2wd reg cab)

Doug Krebs
03-08-2004, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by Chadnutz
On the txdot webside you could take a quiz and if the GCWR was over 26,000 you needed a CDL...

20,000 + 9,000 = 29,000

I'm pretty sure this is wrong. You need a class A or B, can't remember which. You only need a CDL when you areare COMMERCIALLY transporting objects, like for profit, in which case you also need to have commercial insurance, and keep a log book.

So for your personal use, you just need to get a different license. Once you start charging money, (CHADNUTZ) you need a CDL.

This is what my brothers friend told me that hotshots. Funny thing is he has a degree from A&M. Started off with a powerstroke, then got a medium duty, and now has something like a 14 liter 18 wheeler.

fbronco86
03-08-2004, 12:28 PM
travel trailers fall under recreational use. Which is different.

eight
03-08-2004, 12:37 PM
Makes no sense but I seem to remember somethin about that. I guess just cause people who have no idea what they're doing are pulling them, they can do what they want.

Doug Krebs
03-08-2004, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by eight
Makes no sense but I seem to remember somethin about that. I guess just cause people who have no idea what they're doing are pulling them, they can do what they want.

Yeah it really makes no sense at all. People are getting class 8 tractors titled as an RV. Really scarry when you see 75 year old grandma's behind one of those huge bus type RV's with a grand cherokee in tow.

I'm going to email the dmv to try and figure this out.

fbronco86
03-08-2004, 01:42 PM
farmer
fire fighter
military
A recreational vehicle that is driven for personal use. (i think we can fall under this one)

yes you dont have to have a CDL. But you still need the proper license. A class A,B, or C non-CDL license.

I read this outta the handbook.

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/ftp/forms/CDLhandbook.pdf

page iii

Graystroke
03-08-2004, 03:55 PM
give it to me , I'll drive it... class A CDL!
I'm Rick James Biatch!

Chadnutz
03-08-2004, 05:50 PM
I called and it looks like I'd need a Class A CDL. Will that change my insurance? Will it increase the cost of a license?

Thanks.

eight
03-08-2004, 06:04 PM
You don't really want a 8000 lb trailer with 8 tires to blow out. And yes your license would cost more buts its not a whole lot. I'll take a picture of a 3000 lb 30 ft trailer for you to copy. It'd need to be a little wider so figure 3500 lbs. Then you do a little math and you get 14000 lb capacity trailer + 9600 lb capacity truck - 6000 lb truck - 3500 lb trailer and you get = 14100 lb carrying capacity. So you could haul Mike's and Tate's broncos. And you hardly notice its there when its empty.

Chadnutz
03-08-2004, 06:15 PM
I've seen a trailer sitting somewhere for over a year and the deck is in poor shape and I want to speak with the owner and see if I can't work something out....

Chadnutz
03-08-2004, 07:26 PM
Dad says it is $60/10 years for the class A....

fbronco86
03-10-2004, 09:25 PM
what are you going to the class A or the class A CDL? I dont need one yet cause my trailer has two 6000 lbs axles on it. my trailer weight is about 3000 lbs. so that leaves me with 9000 lbs of weight to haul on it. that is more than enought weight for my truck to pull around.

Chadnutz
03-10-2004, 11:37 PM
Lady says I needed an A-CDL, but she is a woman after all and she had to ask someone else to get the answer....

Graystroke
03-11-2004, 02:01 AM
Mine expires in 2008. I have had my class B since '97 and recently about a year ago upgraded to a class A. I'm not sure about the 10 year thing on the license. You would figure they would reconfigure after the class A upgrade. And I know I have had to renew it since I got my class B.
I also thought that in order to take the test for a Class A CDL that the trailer empty weight had to be 10K lbs. Not sure, but I know I have this somewhere. If you want air brake ceritfication, to dive pretty much anything you need to take it in something w/ air brakes.

jerryg79
03-11-2004, 02:13 AM
Originally posted by Graystroke
Mine expires in 2008. I have had my class B since '97 and recently about a year ago upgraded to a class A.

1997, 1997, god that year rings a bell, something about that year, what is it about that year that is so familiar, oh wait that's right you were supposed to graduate, and oh wait that's right i was a junior in hikeschool, and wait, in June of that year the frick, aka kevin, celebrated his 3rd berfday:flipoff2:

eight
03-11-2004, 02:58 AM
Listen to me. I give wrods of wisdom. Let the trailer rot. U'd take too long to build a trailer so just flat tow the mazda untill you get out of college.

Chadnutz
03-11-2004, 08:46 AM
Who said anything about building a trailer. It is useable right now.....

stx4wheeler
03-11-2004, 01:57 PM
Hey jerry i know that you and grayson have both been in college for quite a while, but i would have thought you could do simple math at this stage in the game 1997-1984= 13 not 3, and to nutz i agree with koldpecki build a tow bar and flat tow that thing so that you have no other excuses not to wheel because of a broken trailer. :D

Shaggy
03-11-2004, 03:28 PM
double burn:flipoff2:

jerryg79
03-11-2004, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by stx4wheeler
Hey jerry i know that you and grayson have both been in college for quite a while, but i would have thought you could do simple math at this stage in the game 1997-1984= 13 not 3, and to nutz i agree with koldpecki build a tow bar and flat tow that thing so that you have no other excuses not to wheel because of a broken trailer. :D

ahhhh...they're so cute at that age!

Chadnutz
03-11-2004, 10:23 PM
I have access to 3 16 ft trailers. I'm just trying to cut fuel costs and help other members out...

BigRedFord04
03-12-2004, 01:50 AM
who's paying the maintenance fee?

is that you trying to do a FAVOR for another club member? noooo......

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