What tires to get?

[8Runner]

I need some quick suggestions. I probably am going to have to order these today or tomorrow to get them here in time for TPP.

House of Tires in Bryan has offered me a good trade deal on my old (barely used)( tires and wheels. I am definitely selling my AT's and the Steel rims they are on now. I also have a brand new 36" TSL SX on an aluminum rim. I could either keep it and get 4 matching wheels & tires, or I could get all new wheels& tires. If I get new, I will probably go up to 37 or 38". So my question is, should I stick with the 36" TSL/SX or should I get something else? I no longer have to use 8runner as a daily driver, and I will likely be trailering it to most events, so wear and road performance is not a big deal anymore. On the flipside, I can't spend much more than $500-$700 with the trade ($1300-$1500 total), so that rules out anything too exotic.

[spool]

If you are not going to drive it on the street I would look into some red or blue(street legal and not as soft)label 37" BFG Krawlers. I have 35" blue label on my jeep and I like them better than any other tire I have ran. The 39" red label on Greg's jeep are really soft I will probably only get one comp season out of them.

[redcagepatrol]

Originally posted by spool
If you are not going to drive it on the street I would look into some red or blue(street legal and not as soft)label 37" BFG Krawlers. I have 35" blue label on my jeep and I like them better than any other tire I have ran. The 39" red label on Greg's jeep are really soft I will probably only get one comp season out of them.

You can watch the rubber burn off those tires - the truck gets lower to the ground every time he gets off a course...:flipoff2:

[8Runner]

Ok, so I definiyule need it to be at least street legal. And I do want to be able to drive it around town and maybe even on some shor t trips. I have heard good things about the crawler's before. So the Blue Label ones are the street legal ones?

[Shaggy]

yes

[eight]

Me think krawlers are a little out of his price range. Maybe a set of SSRs, I liked mine. They gripped good even without tread, were quieter than my BFG MTs, and rode great unbalanced. I think the 37x12.5x15 are under $200 each. And the 36" iroks are supposed to be big for their size and under $170.

My RTIIs are supposed to be hard rubber and they suck and they still wear out on wheelin trips. I have decided it's not the tires' fault though, its those dam rocks.

[fbronco86]

Originally posted by eight
Me think krawlers are a little out of his price range. Maybe a set of SSRs, I liked mine. They gripped good even without tread, were quieter than my BFG MTs, and rode great unbalanced. I think the 37x12.5x15 are under $200 each. And the 36" iroks are supposed to be big for their size and under $170.

My RTIIs are supposed to be hard rubber and they suck and they still wear out on wheelin trips. I have decided it's not the tires' fault though, its those dam rocks.

I think its a driver issue

[Moose]

... and 4wheelparts (http://www.4wheelparts.com/4wp/products/index.asp?cat=TIR) is having a 10% off everything this weekend sale... including tires...

4 - 37x13R15 Boggers - $907.96 + $90 tire warranty + $30 crate fee = $1030
w/10% off = $937.12

[Shaggy]

i just ordered 4 39.5x13.50x17 Super Swamper IROK Radials:D

i only got $31 more off than the guy was gonna give me last week but that is reason enough to go ahead and order them:D

[uglyota]

where and how much $$$?

[8Runner]

I wasn't planning on getting radial anything - I didn't see the point. If I was going to go SSR's shouldn't I just stil with TSL/SX's since I already have 1 brand new one?

[Shaggy]

Originally posted by uglyota
where and how much $$$?

4wp $1322.98


radials last longer... much longer

[8Runner]

Well Crap, I was going to look at getting Krawlers with the sale going on at 4wpw and say that the 37's only come in 17" rims. That blows these for now, as I can't justify ~$300 per tire & get rims. I would like to get a 37-38" tire, so that rules out IROK's too, they only come in 36 and 39.5, the larger of which I think is too big for 8runner (how could I tell?).

The other (and cheapest) option, would be for me to just get 4 TSL/SX's to match my never used spare - it is a 36x12.50R15. I can get those for under $200 each.

Maybe I should just go this cheaper route & then when I wear them out I just get 17" rims (beadlocks, mmmmm). All I know is I don't want to wheel on my AT's anymore, they did alright in Katemcy, but I couldn't air them down as much and they have NO sidewall grip, which forced me to skip at least one obstacle that would have been easily passable with better tires.

Anyway, I am just looking for some advice & would appriciate any I can get!

[redcagepatrol]

buy the 37" Krawlers and worry about the rims on the next paycheck...

[Doug Krebs]

buy the 37" Krawlers and worry about the rims on the next paycheck...

have ya'll seen the thread on pirate where the people buy the 17" h2 rims off ebay for under $200 for all 4? The guy even posted up a dxf file of the beadlocks so you can get a waterjet to cut out the aluminum beadlock part and rings.

I'm contemplating getting the rims and then down the line get the bead locks when I want.

[8Runner]

Man, there is no way I could do good rims by the Colorado event. I could do some more cheap steel ones, but I feel like it is a waste to do it now since I really wan't beadlocks w/in the next year or so, I'm gonna call you to talk about this a bit.

[Doug Krebs]

Man, there is no way I could do good rims by the Colorado event. I could do some more cheap steel ones, but I feel like it is a waste to do it now since I really wan't beadlocks w/in the next year or so, I'm gonna call you to talk about this a bit.

You calling me???

Here is the thread

17" H2 beadlocks OEM wheels (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=224777)

[Cajun]

have ya'll seen the thread on pirate where the people buy the 17" h2 rims off ebay for under $200 for all 4? The guy even posted up a dxf file of the beadlocks so you can get a waterjet to cut out the aluminum beadlock part and rings.

I'm contemplating getting the rims and then down the line get the bead locks when I want.

Pssssst...'yota running gear = not 8 lug = H2 wheels won't work without adapters.

[Doug Krebs]

Pssssst...'yota running gear = not 8 lug = H2 wheels won't work without adapters.

ahh piss, i forgot he had those crappy axles :flipoff2:

[8Runner]

No, I called scott, I was still typing that as I ready your post. I am leaning toward just matching my spare for now. Less than $800 vs Over $2000 for Krawlers & Rims.

[redcagepatrol]

I looked on the Swamper site. I would get the straight TSL's - 36 x 12.50 that are 36.3" tall before I got the TSL-SX's that are 35.9" tall. I beleive that they are cheaper too... You can keep the SX as a spare :)

[8Runner]

I took a look at the interco site too - So you are saying the Non-Radial version? I thought above you said radial was better?!?

FWPW's computers were down, so Jeremy is going to call me back in a bit.

[redcagepatrol]

I took a look at the interco site too - So you are saying the Non-Radial version? I thought above you said radial was better?!?

FWPW's computers were down, so Jeremy is going to call me back in a bit.
Nope - the straight "old skool" Super Swamper TSL is the best off-road tire for the price out there.

[redcagepatrol]

Here is the thread

17" H2 beadlocks OEM wheels (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=224777)
I checked into the cost of the 3/8" AL and Steel Supply here in H-town told me $962 for a 4x12 sheet ($21.6 ft*ft or $691 for a 4x8 after tax). So, assuming that you can get 4 inners and 4 outers out of the 4x8 sheet, here is the cost:
$200 Rims off E-bay
$700 AL sheet (6061 3/8")
$50 bolts (140 bolts @ $0.36ea)
$300 (guess) in machine work and welding
$1250 Total

Allpro (6 lug) sells them for $340 ea = $1360
Champion is $325 ea = $1300
OMF is $345 ea = $1380
Allied (from Sams OR) $no longer making AL bealocks
Walker Evans $325 ea or $365ea for polished = $1300
Allied (polished) $600 ea = $2400

Doesn't really seem worth it to me.

[Doug Krebs]

I checked into the cost of the 3/8" AL and Steel Supply here in H-town told me $962 for a 4x12 sheet ($21.6 ft*ft or $691 for a 4x8 after tax). So, assuming that you can get 4 inners and 4 outers out of the 4x8 sheet, here is the cost:
$200 Rims off E-bay
$700 AL sheet (6061 3/8")
$50 bolts (140 bolts @ $0.36ea)
$300 (guess) in machine work and welding
$1250 Total

Allpro (6 lug) sells them for $340 ea = $1360
Champion is $325 ea = $1300
OMF is $345 ea = $1380
Allied (from Sams OR) $waiting on call
Allied (polished) $600 ea = $2400

Doesn't really seem worth it to me.

holy chit... didn't know AL was that expensive... oh well, buggy is going to have to wait for sometime anyways, I think i'm about to make some life decisions!

[jerryg79]

holy chit... didn't know AL was that expensive... oh well, buggy is going to have to wait for sometime anyways, I think i'm about to make some life decisions!

Oh dear lord :confused:

[Doug Krebs]

Oh dear lord :confused:

Thanks

[jerryg79]

Thanks

Man that little confused guy doesn't put the question marks above his head!

No little dougies too soon i hope :flipoff2:

[Doug Krebs]

No little dougies too soon i hope :flipoff2:

Dear god I hope not!!!! -pimp-