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CheapJeep
12-11-2006, 10:04 PM
wooo....big peempin'. :gigem:

stx4wheeler
12-11-2006, 11:28 PM
nice work flem.

BMFScout
12-12-2006, 01:52 AM
kickass!

agjohn02
12-12-2006, 02:06 AM
did you get a nice clean knurl all the way across? i always fork up at least one strip and overlap it.

BMFScout
12-12-2006, 02:14 AM
I bet if he didn't there will be at least one "good" side :)

TxCruzr
12-12-2006, 02:15 AM
Least the scount has one nice piece of equipment on it...what is it a TP holder :flipoff2:
Nice job, it looks awesome :gigem:

BMFScout
12-12-2006, 02:16 AM
Flem does like to poop alot!

agjohn02
12-12-2006, 02:35 AM
you should get st john to build those brackets out of folded sheet metal for you.

Graystroke
12-12-2006, 12:44 PM
nah, billet would look better.

BMFScout
12-12-2006, 01:30 PM
Then I'd have to clamp them to the roll bar.

robertf03
12-12-2006, 06:45 PM
Hey Jimmy do you have that 1/8" plate behind your shop that I used for my rockers? I built one bracket out of 1/16" because thats all I had and I think it needs to be thicker.

BMFScout
12-12-2006, 06:59 PM
I probably have something we could use, I have 3/16" for sure.

The PSC lines came in, so that should be together fairly quickly, just have to hook up the hoses. You coming over?

robertf03
12-12-2006, 07:10 PM
can't tonight, will stop by tomorrow

BMFScout
12-12-2006, 07:14 PM
sweet, we'll drink beer and install a grab bar.

BMFScout
12-13-2006, 02:16 AM
It's easy to tell when you have the ram plumbed backwards! You just touch the steering wheel and the mother****er takes off back and forth all willy nilly, I think Fred almost lost a finger!

Wish I could have figured it out before I measured the lines perfectly and zip tied them together. I need to change out two fitting ends tomorrow night, but then it should be ready to rock. (after the sick fab on the grab bar of course...)

BMFScout
12-14-2006, 02:27 AM
ram mounted up, the hoses fit better until I had to switch them around, and the grab bar Flemco whipped up.

BMFScout
12-14-2006, 02:34 AM
No, the tach doesn't work, big surprise!

BMFScout
02-13-2007, 10:41 AM
Nobody wanted to buy my rear bumper so I hacked it down and sucked it in to go back on the Belle. I bolted it up at first to see how much needed to go bye bye, and it stuck out like 1-1/2' on both sides. It looked awesome. I'll post pics later, should be done with it tonight.

bburris
12-18-2007, 03:03 PM
I got a ball joint socket (http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?store=snapon-store&item_ID=12144&group_ID=1630) from the Snap On man so if you guys want to pull your axle apart to rework anything I can bring it by and lend a hand.

BMFScout
12-18-2007, 03:06 PM
Nice! Ask Fred where he got our new one and what he paid for it!

bburris
12-18-2007, 03:51 PM
I'm guessing it was $Free.99 at the Tommy Wilson back-o-the-truck sale.

bburris
09-10-2008, 09:22 AM
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=6457788

Reckless
09-10-2008, 11:55 AM
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=6457788

Ive got one in my old heep. Pretty good and well built.

BMFScout
09-10-2008, 04:31 PM
Brett and I worked 2-3 hours on a really sweet gun rack made out of scrap, only to say fawk it around 10:30 last night. We did mount these really sweet cupholders on my rollbar though. I think they are going to come in quite handy!!

What about this Brett, mounted off the dash bar of the roll cage. Might be in my field of vision when driving though...

http://www.atvyardtrim.com/GunRack.shtml

agjohn02
09-10-2008, 04:51 PM
i see beer spilling on your shoulder. cant see the gunracks but they should be on your front fenders for quick access. maybe a swivel(sp?) mount in front of the passenger

jerryg79
09-10-2008, 05:15 PM
are you going somewhere in particular or do you really need a vehicle to hunt dove on 12 acres:flipoff2:

BMFScout
09-10-2008, 05:42 PM
some of grayson's lutheran brethren and me are going to their 3500 acre ranch in Breckenridge. the scout is for the night time hog hunting festivities, and to show up their pingzauer. (sp?)

Reckless
09-10-2008, 06:00 PM
I have a place in breckenridge around the lake. If its the place i think it is with the pingzauer, ive delievered a dozier out there. Really nice place.

BMFScout
12-05-2008, 02:44 AM
Fred and I retrofitted a chevy tranny mount to replace the ****-tastic scout mount that should have been in there. A dove hunting accident evidently pushed the tranny mount up an inch or so making the front pulley interfere with the electric fans. Crossmember is straightened and all is right again with the Belle. I now need to figure out a crossmember to mount an anti-wrap bar to.

Fredo
12-08-2008, 09:28 AM
Dad and I rewired one of the trailers this weekend, repacked the bearings on it, and changed the oil on the suburban. After that, I gave Lurch the once over, reran the ductwork for the heater, and in doing so, subsequently found out why the cigarette lighter wasn't working (had to plug the wire back into it...). After that, I decided to work on the brackets for Jimmy's anti-wrap bar that I successfully ****ed up friday night. Thinking a little more clearly than I was friday night, this is what I ended up with. I've got a little more fitting to do, and welding, then will come time to box it in after it's welded to the axle. I think it should work out ok.

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x283/fredo_92/bracket1.jpg

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x283/fredo_92/bracket2.jpg

redcagepatrol
12-08-2008, 09:49 AM
is that a D60 on the bench???

Nice fab work, that should stop some wrap:gigem:

bburris
12-08-2008, 10:01 AM
The D60 is my pile of crap that I need to go over and try to finish up with this week.

Fredo
12-08-2008, 11:00 AM
The D60 is my pile of crap that I need to go over and try to finish up with this week.

Where were you all weekend nancy? :flipoff2:

BMFScout
12-08-2008, 11:48 AM
That is a helluva a brother, I dick off Saturday and Sunday and he gets **** done! Looks almost like the ones you made Friday night, Fred, but not fawked up!! :flipoff2:

bburris
12-08-2008, 12:22 PM
Mixture of cleaning, watching football and hanging out with Dana.

BMFScout
12-08-2008, 01:38 PM
Whacking it, whacking it, and hanging out with Dana (while I whacked it.)


what I read...

bburris
12-08-2008, 02:29 PM
There's a little more to it, but I'll share that when I make it out there.

Fredo
12-11-2008, 12:49 AM
Anti-wrap is done. Let's see if Jimmy can break it.

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x283/fredo_92/bmfscout/anti1.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x283/fredo_92/bmfscout/anti2.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x283/fredo_92/bmfscout/anti3.jpg

DRAGOONRANCH
12-11-2008, 08:27 AM
If he can't, I will hand him some liquid encouragement to try again. :gigem:

BMFScout
10-14-2012, 10:37 PM
Bump!

Get to work! :flipoff2:

TdmayfieldIV
10-15-2012, 12:39 AM
Hope the battery doesn't go dead.......

Sparling
10-15-2012, 01:13 AM
don't get pissed because Sam has a wheelable rig and you don't

sam_hodnett
10-15-2012, 02:00 AM
So after 3 years of being in the club with no rig worth mentioning, I finally bought something that is worth having.
Spent the weekend in Dallas hanging out with TAMOR north and going over the Belle with Fred and Jimmy.
Towed her back to her new/old home in College Station. This is the first time I have really towed anything long distance with my new truck, and I couldnt have been more pleased. Had no trouble maintaining any speed I wanted.
I am pumped that I will finally be able to have something to wheel.
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FJAggie07
10-15-2012, 08:03 AM
:gigem:

Fredo
10-15-2012, 08:51 AM
Hope the battery doesn't go dead.......

What kind of cryptic jab is that?

TdmayfieldIV
10-15-2012, 09:09 AM
Travis and I think the reason his Dakota got neglected and sold is because the battery went dead

sam_hodnett
10-15-2012, 11:12 AM
Travis and I think the reason his Dakota got neglected and sold is because the battery went dead

Buckwheat got neglected because the battery went dead, the 4 wheel drive didnt work, there was a huge hole in the floorboard, the motor needed to be rebuilt, the brakes sucked, it was IFS, and i didnt have the knowledge to fix any of it and no one would help me

BroncoJo
10-15-2012, 11:25 AM
Travis and I think the reason his Dakota got neglected and sold is because the battery went dead

This, no matter what Sam says :flipoff2:

FJAggie07
10-15-2012, 03:21 PM
Buckwheat got neglected because the battery went dead, the 4 wheel drive didnt work, there was a huge hole in the floorboard, the motor needed to be rebuilt, the brakes sucked, it was IFS, and i didnt have the knowledge to fix any of it and no one would help me

I think you had the knowledge to fix the battery, don't sell yourself short! ;)

sam_hodnett
10-15-2012, 03:36 PM
I think you had the knowledge to fix the battery, don't sell yourself short! ;)

I guess I shouldnt have said any of it.

JB
10-15-2012, 04:05 PM
I think you had the knowledge to fix the battery, don't sell yourself short! ;)

Are you calling Sam short?

DRAGOONRANCH
10-15-2012, 04:07 PM
Wheeling with no floorboard is cool (or hot, depending on the weather, kinda like having anti-a/c! ) :flipoff2:

It makes looking at the rawks under your rig much easier also! :D

colman
10-15-2012, 04:54 PM
so does it need anything.... and since i along with others probably don't want to go thru all 20 pages could you please give us a update as far as specs and coolness that has been done to this well loved rig

sam_hodnett
10-15-2012, 05:12 PM
It could use a set of tires, as the ones that are on it have a lot of dry rot.

The brakes need some attention, as they are kind of sketchy.

Needs some bump. And I want to get the third seat in for alto.

I need a 5 point warn controller

I might upgrade the seat belt system, as I have a set of harnesses

The only real modification I plan on doing some time soon is to cut off the rusted out rockers and replace them with some 2X4 tube, then tie the cage into the sliders and frame.

robertf03
10-15-2012, 05:35 PM
I have an almost new warn controller, but the disco doesn't get stuck so I don't need it.

Shaggy
10-15-2012, 09:26 PM
So jimmy decided to scrap it I see

BroncoJo
10-15-2012, 09:44 PM
So jimmy decided to scrap it I see

:laughing:

KrazyKarl02
10-15-2012, 09:48 PM
I got a set of 37" MTR's, 15" Rims

BMFScout
10-16-2012, 09:11 AM
So jimmy decided to scrap it I see

You're a douche.

BMFScout
10-16-2012, 09:17 AM
Also, the yellow top has seen some years. I've counted it out before and it has surprised me though. Jumper cables are neat. Like any rig it's going to need love, but lists of potential and better than starting from scratch I think.

Sparling
10-16-2012, 09:26 AM
Sam is in a better place in his life now. He has people around him to help him on his road to recovery from his addiction to killing vehicles.

Hellbent
10-16-2012, 10:47 AM
Sam is in a better place in his life now. He has people around him to help him on his road to recovery from his addiction to killing vehicles.

says the guy who has taken more **** to scrap in the last few months than any one else on this forum...

sam_hodnett
10-16-2012, 11:27 AM
I got a set of 37" MTR's, 15" Rims

hmmm, maybe. I am afraid that that might be too much stress on my 44s. What do you think Fred/Jimmy?

Sparling
10-16-2012, 11:31 AM
says the guy who has taken more **** to scrap in the last few months than any one else on this forum...

I didn't say I was one of them.

85cj7
10-16-2012, 12:02 PM
sam-run the 37s. I have been running the same on my front chevy 44 for two years with no issues.

Sharpe
10-16-2012, 12:15 PM
hmmm, maybe. I am afraid that that might be too much stress on my 44s. What do you think Fred/Jimmy?

You'll void the warranty!

bcolman
10-16-2012, 12:27 PM
says the guy who has taken more **** to scrap in the last few months than any one else on this forum...

i highly doubt that he has taken more to scrap than any one else on here, unless he has taken in the neighborhood of 15 vehicles or more in the last few months

FJAggie07
10-16-2012, 12:36 PM
... lists of potential and better than starting from scratch I think.

Definitely.

KrazyKarl02
10-16-2012, 02:01 PM
Knock knock, who is there? Oh it's just me TTB checking in, I have a 44 center section and rocked these 37's without ever breaking a shaft...

If you're single traction beam 44 can't handle the 37's you should do a TTB swap!


Disclaimer, this 44 has some sort of locking mechanism in it, so it is not an apples to apples comparison, but still TTB rules!

AggieTJ2007
10-16-2012, 02:49 PM
I think if anything those 37's would be easier on the axles than those big wide 35's that are on there now. You just have to be conscious that you can't get pissed off and crank the wheel hard and hammer down.

Sparling
10-16-2012, 03:15 PM
Sam will get drunk, this will happen.

Hellbent
10-16-2012, 03:37 PM
i highly doubt that he has taken more to scrap than any one else on here, unless he has taken in the neighborhood of 15 vehicles or more in the last few months

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj424/Dieselfarmer/chocolate_chip_cookie.jpg

sam_hodnett
10-16-2012, 03:59 PM
http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj424/Dieselfarmer/chocolate_chip_cookie.jpg

i laughed

BMFScout
10-16-2012, 04:53 PM
I don't like mtr's an had no problems destroying front shafts in Clayton or katemcy with 35" bfg's. That being said, it's not my truck!

Shaggy
10-16-2012, 07:33 PM
People run 37s on 44s all the time. People also kill Dana 60 shafts with 35s. It all comes down to driver and luck sometimes. Just keep spares around.

Fredo
10-16-2012, 08:28 PM
The IH 345 V8 weighs 750ish lbs. That's heavier than a Big Block Chevy. Hang that over the front 44 and 35" tires kind of become the upper limit on tire size, unless you just really like changing broken shafts.

robertf03
10-16-2012, 09:05 PM
http://www.rcvperformance.com/product-details-axles.aspx?sku=CVJ44OS-IHSCT

davido
10-16-2012, 10:02 PM
So what Fred is saying is, a 5.3 swap is also in order. :)

Sharpe
10-16-2012, 10:08 PM
Sam cant even hook up jumper cables. If he does a 5.3 swap it will probably have a Q-jet and distributor on it!

eight
10-18-2012, 10:50 PM
I thought this thing had some nice fat manly tires on it last I saw. I would take dry rotted TSLs over MTRs in most situations. That dry rot is just on the surface, burn them a little and new rubber will be exposed.

redcagepatrol
10-19-2012, 07:24 AM
I thought this thing had some nice fat manly tires on it last I saw. I would take dry rotted TSLs over MTRs in most situations. That dry rot is just on the surface, burn them a little and new rubber will be exposed.

I'd have to agree with that - TSL's dryrot or not are the ****.

Fredo
10-19-2012, 12:41 PM
The problem is there are only 3 of them that have intact sidewalls.

davido
10-19-2012, 12:42 PM
buff it out :D

Sparling
10-19-2012, 12:55 PM
we're going to see if the other one can be patched by some Mexicans

sam_hodnett
10-19-2012, 04:10 PM
It cannot be patched, but as luck has it, I have a couple of spares, so I am going to run them until after Alto at least

AggieTJ2007
10-19-2012, 05:29 PM
It cannot be patched, but as luck has it, I have a couple of spares, so I am going to run them until after Alto at least

I have a couple spares sitting in a shed you could borrow if needed, a few are actually mounted on wheels that will work too.

BMFScout
10-22-2012, 08:20 AM
Matching tires are not a requirement for Alto. I think you'll still pass the safety inspection.

sam_hodnett
10-22-2012, 11:08 AM
Matching tires are not a requirement for Alto. I think you'll still pass the safety inspection.

Yes, I am perfectly fine with the non-matched tires, I will fit in better!

AggieTJ2007
11-02-2012, 11:23 PM
I have an extra 35x12.50 BFG mud terrian. What if you put the 2 mud terrains on the front to take some stress of the front shafts and increase steering and ran the TSL's in the rear. I think it would be an awesome setup.

sam_hodnett
12-11-2012, 12:49 AM
So I found a 35-16-16.5 bogger on the tire trailer in the back the other day. Since I could not find a new 16.5 5 on 5.5 bolt pattern rim, I decided to make one, klogger style

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19335
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I got about a third done with the front side when I ran out of gas, guess ill finish up in the morning

mudtoy67
12-11-2012, 01:45 AM
That is way nicer than Klogger style. :laughing:

Nice work!

Fredo
12-11-2012, 10:49 AM
Nice. I'd be willing to bet that wheel is capable of handling more speed than a bogger can.

sam_hodnett
12-11-2012, 12:46 PM
Nice. I'd be willing to bet that wheel is capable of handling more speed than a bogger can.

My thoughts exactly

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Finished front side, now gonna let it cool, then throw the tire and some paint on it

Sparling
12-11-2012, 01:06 PM
Man, now my klogger wheels aren't special, they're just the big retard version.

Sam, did you take the tire off of that other wheel before you plasma cut the center off? Ever seen videos of pyrolysis?

RCcola55
12-11-2012, 01:12 PM
Are you talking about the tire cooking?

sam_hodnett
12-11-2012, 01:20 PM
Man, now my klogger wheels aren't special, they're just the big retard version.

Sam, did you take the tire off of that other wheel before you plasma cut the center off? Ever seen videos of pyrolysis?

I just cut an 8" hole out of the side of it with my machete

mudtoy67
12-11-2012, 01:27 PM
Sam, did you take the tire off of that other wheel before you plasma cut the center off? Ever seen videos of pyrolysis?



Ya, that's bad stuff. I've got a cousin who was hit by a bus a few years ago. He's pyrolized from the waste down.

FJAggie07
12-11-2012, 03:05 PM
I just cut an 8" hole out of the side of it with my machete

underrated post. :gigem:

Wheel looks great man!

sam_hodnett
12-11-2012, 04:02 PM
19348

Ruh Roh Raggy

Just drove it down the road, no wheel wobble at all

TMatheaus
12-11-2012, 05:00 PM
So do you have boggers on both of the rears?

stx4wheeler
12-11-2012, 05:02 PM
19348

Ruh Roh Raggy

Just drove it down the road, no wheel wobble at all


Measure it though I bet it's closer to a 33" than 35".

sam_hodnett
12-11-2012, 06:43 PM
It's the same size as the other 3, and no, just one bogger

davido
12-11-2012, 07:27 PM
$30 of welding on a $10 wheel? :D

KrazyKarl02
12-11-2012, 10:08 PM
These wheels are inferior to Klogger wheels. The klogger wheels are welded and bolted together for extra strength. The klogger wheel adapters are made from 3/8" plate, this is a gas saving feature, as once you are at speed it allows you to coast for longer periods...

BMFScout
02-20-2013, 11:52 PM
You fix that rear shaft yet? Locker survive?

Sparling
02-21-2013, 01:05 AM
He broke the.scout but instead of fixing it and wheeling he got a dog to play with.

sam_hodnett
02-21-2013, 09:00 AM
I havent been able to open it up yet, I didnt have any money to buy the bearings last week, and i got a puppy this weekend. It will get fixed by the end of the month

Fredo
02-21-2013, 12:10 PM
"If it weren't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college." ...<head explodes>

Fredo
02-25-2013, 12:39 PM
I havent been able to open it up yet, I didnt have any money to buy the bearings last week, and i got a puppy this weekend. It will get fixed by the end of the month

February is a short month. Going to have it fixed by Thursday?

sam_hodnett
02-25-2013, 06:48 PM
February is a short month. Going to have it fixed by Thursday?

yeah, forgot about the short month mess, it will get opened up friday when I get my paycheck

Sharpe
02-25-2013, 07:06 PM
Takin **** apart don't cost nuthin.

sam_hodnett
02-25-2013, 11:25 PM
I dont want to leave it just taking up space inside Evans shop while I wait to buy parts

BroncoJo
02-26-2013, 07:59 AM
Take it apart outside?

sam_hodnett
03-04-2013, 01:21 AM
Took it apart tonight. The Detroit is fine, the shaft broke off inside of it, right at the end of the splines. I wasn't thinking today, and I didn't get the seal or race, so I am going to have to wait to get them. I also didnt have the right socket for the spindle nut, so I am going to wait for Chet to get his back tomorrow afternoon, so I can get the new u joint put in the front

My phone is being really gay and isn't letting me upload any pics.

Fredo
03-04-2013, 01:12 PM
How did you test the detroit?

sam_hodnett
03-04-2013, 03:45 PM
just assuming, since there werent any pieces of metal anywhere, and it looked fine inside of it. the shaft was broken after the splines, I dont think anything could be messed up, but am not sure. How would i go about checking it?

AggieTJ2007
03-04-2013, 04:20 PM
burnout

sam_hodnett
03-06-2013, 01:20 AM
Rear is back together, and the detroit passed the burnout test :gigem:

No one in this town has the correct spindle nut socket, so I am going to have to order one. Will probably have to wait to do the u joint until after I get back from next week. I am pretty pumped that the ears are still good. I only spit one cap, and there is no distortion anywhere.

All around I got extremely lucky with this carnage

Sparling
03-06-2013, 01:21 AM
...there is no distortion anywhere...

until I tried to drive it in 4x4

Hellbent
03-06-2013, 01:10 PM
Rear is back together, and the detroit passed the burnout test :gigem:

No one in this town has the correct spindle nut socket, so I am going to have to order one. Will probably have to wait to do the u joint until after I get back from next week. I am pretty pumped that the ears are still good. I only spit one cap, and there is no distortion anywhere.

All around I got extremely lucky with this carnage

how do you get lucky with carnage?

Isnt breaking things unlucky?

sam_hodnett
03-06-2013, 01:46 PM
until I tried to drive it in 4x4

Drunken asshole. it was unlocked anyway

sam_hodnett
03-06-2013, 01:48 PM
how do you get lucky with carnage?

Isnt breaking things unlucky?

1. Well, i dont have to replace front shafts, just u joints. so that is pretty awesome

2. I just had to buy bearings and a seal for the rear, as Fred and Jimmy gave me a shaft. pretty lucky

3. And my detroit isn't broken, so I dont have to worry about that. Which is lucky.

Seth
03-06-2013, 01:54 PM
maybe fortunate is a better word. if you were lucky, you would have made it up that hill :)

Sparling
03-06-2013, 02:04 PM
...Fred and Jimmy gave me a shaft ... Which is lucky.

Damn it sam! Don't give up on wimmens yet!

robertf03
03-06-2013, 02:09 PM
I don't know why that socket is impossible to find. Its the same one used on a CJ, Toyota, Land Rover, and Scout. I had to mail order mine too and keep a spare in the glove box because its impossible to find in stock even in DFW.

bburris
03-06-2013, 02:55 PM
We've got them in stock for $9.95, I try to keep 5 or 6 on the shelf.

eight
03-10-2013, 07:38 AM
Maybe everybody else just uses the other method.

sam_hodnett
03-28-2013, 12:51 AM
Finally got the new Moog u-joint in. The old joint just spit one cap, so none of the ears were fubared. I really need to address the brake issue.

Fredo
03-29-2013, 12:19 AM
Brake issue? Is it the leaking rear line, or did something **** with the "field repair" I did on the front brakes in Alto?

sam_hodnett
03-30-2013, 06:18 PM
Pretty sure it is the rear line. Ill go over it all when I bring it back to Paris, before TCC.

Fredo
03-31-2013, 02:35 AM
Well, if the rear line is still leaking, it is probably the problem. Swing through Dallas with it and I'll help you knock it out.

sam_hodnett
03-31-2013, 12:43 PM
Well, if the rear line is still leaking, it is probably the problem. Swing through Dallas with it and I'll help you knock it out.

I'm probably going to take you up on that offer, thanks

sam_hodnett
05-09-2013, 01:39 PM
What do yall think about these two?

http://www.4ws.com/d44-scout-73-80-30-spline-ch.html

http://www.4ws.com/yukon-front-4340-chrome-moly-axle-kit-for-71-80-dana-44-scout-with-27-30-splines.html

85cj7
05-09-2013, 03:10 PM
I ran alloys in the dana 30 and yukons in the 44. I don't see a difference. What ujoints do they come with? At a minimum run spicers but you might want to consider superjoints or the equivalent.

Sparling
05-09-2013, 03:31 PM
http://www.rcvperformance.com/product-details-axles.aspx?sku=CVJ44OS-IHSCT

With how often you break front shafts, you either need one tons, super beat off awesome shafts or don't throw so much puss at it on the trails, the scout can't handle it.

AggieTJ2007
05-09-2013, 06:11 PM
I would second saving your pennies for RCV shafts or at least make sure that the shafts/ujoints that you use have a warranty. It would suck to blow a brand new high dollar shaft on your first trip out.

JB
05-09-2013, 08:36 PM
You guys really think it is a wise decision to spend that moneyon D44 RCV shafts? Really? You also really think Sam Hodnett is going to spend that money on shafts? You guys are dumb

Check pirate daily and find something used or buy the cheaper "chromos". Buy proper tires. Wheel it and learn how not to break **** and have a good time. Jimmy did it for quite awhile

Seriously? D44 RCVs?!?!?

AggieTJ2007
05-09-2013, 08:55 PM
wise? Is a stock 60 a wise decision? $1500 for shafts with a no questions asked lifetime warranty or $700 for shafts that run stock u-joints or $200 a piece superjoints?

JB
05-09-2013, 09:14 PM
Yes, a stock 60 would be 10 times wiser decision. But that would require work that Sam doesn't do

Chromos and wheel better. Boom. Done

85cj7
05-09-2013, 09:28 PM
I think those tires have an awful lot to do with it. Aren't they 15" wide? Switch to 12.5" and the shafts won't snap as easily.

How wide are the wheels? Again, switch to a 8" wheel.

Sharpe
05-09-2013, 09:29 PM
There are other considerations besides shaft strength. Jimmy popped a balljoint out on Baby Huey's crack at the OG K-rocks and I'm pretty confident it wouldn't have happened with a 60. There wasn't any apparent damage to the inner C or knuckle that I remember either.

AggieTJ2007
05-09-2013, 10:22 PM
a 60 swap would be wiser and probably 2x as much if not more.

TdmayfieldIV
05-09-2013, 10:25 PM
Holy **** the 60 rcv's are expensive.

DRAGOONRANCH
05-09-2013, 10:37 PM
Holy **** the 60 rcv's are expensive.

It costs to play with the big boys. That being said, one of the best "bang for your buck" investments I believe I have made in the beast.

The "smart thing to do" would be to either straight upgrade to a 60 or spend good coin on good shafts for the belle. That being said. If you get some decent shafts and u-joints and remember to take it easy until you learn your rig, you should be good. Just go ahead and get the correct spindle socket on order. :D

Sparling
05-09-2013, 11:43 PM
And don't keep your foot in the skinny pedal when the front is bouncing 2 feet off the ground.

robertf03
05-09-2013, 11:48 PM
I've got RCV in mine and it's held up to plenty of full steering lock throttle dumps.

TdmayfieldIV
05-10-2013, 12:41 AM
Don't change your driving style, it's fun to watch. Chromo's with some tom woods gold seal u joints should be plenty.

KrazyKarl02
05-10-2013, 07:18 AM
You guys are all poo$$y's, f' a 60! Go full retard, Rockwells are a 15 times wiser choice. I made this graph that clearly shows the difference, and it's in 3D, so it has to be right.

JB
05-10-2013, 07:49 AM
a 60 swap would be wiser and probably 2x as much if not more.

Seriously? D60 - $750-1000; proper gears/locker - $750. Sell D44 - $250. You need wheel/tires either way.

Again, You want to spend $1500 on shafts for a Dana 44? $1500?!

Would you also advocate me spending $4000 on a SC for my little 4.0, instead of say an LS swap? Ha!

I have ALOT of miles on a heavier rig on stock 60 shafts.

Sam, buy chromos for your 44 or buy 60.

robertf03
05-10-2013, 08:37 AM
steering, brakes, wheels, suspension, rear axle

all of that has to be changed to get a 60 under there, and its either expensive or will get rigged and become unreliable.

you'd end up with a totally different rig

buy the shafts, it will handle just like it did before but breaks less.

RCcola55
05-10-2013, 09:54 AM
Buy a helicopter, it can go anywhere!

sam_hodnett
05-10-2013, 11:33 AM
I agree with Karl. Rockwell time! Ive already got a line on a couple of front axles. 4 wheel steer FTW!

On a serious note, I think I am just going to buy chromos, and bump down to some 12.5s. I cant even come close to affording RCVs any time soon, and would probably do a 60 swap before I did that. I was just wondering what anyone thought of the two I posted. Should I just buy a kit like that? or should I buy the shafts individually and buy jackoff u-joints from somewhere? And where should I buy those?

AggieTJ2007
05-10-2013, 01:53 PM
I agree with Karl. Rockwell time! Ive already got a line on a couple of front axles. 4 wheel steer FTW!

On a serious note, I think I am just going to buy chromos, and bump down to some 12.5s. I cant even come close to affording RCVs any time soon, and would probably do a 60 swap before I did that. I was just wondering what anyone thought of the two I posted. Should I just buy a kit like that? or should I buy the shafts individually and buy jackoff u-joints from somewhere? And where should I buy those?

either of the "kits" are probably fine. I would go with some jackoff u-joints. Just google yukon superjoints or ctm joints. Install some of those with alloy shafts that have a warranty and you should be good.

KrazyKarl02
05-10-2013, 03:00 PM
Buy a helicopter, it can go anywhere!

I'll have to see if I can find a chart that compares rockwells vs. helicopters on the wiseness scale.

RCcola55
05-10-2013, 06:48 PM
I have one of the two, help me decide my direction in wasting money.

Fredo
05-10-2013, 10:27 PM
I agree with Karl. Rockwell time! Ive already got a line on a couple of front axles. 4 wheel steer FTW!

On a serious note, I think I am just going to buy chromos, and bump down to some 12.5s. I cant even come close to affording RCVs any time soon, and would probably do a 60 swap before I did that. I was just wondering what anyone thought of the two I posted. Should I just buy a kit like that? or should I buy the shafts individually and buy jackoff u-joints from somewhere? And where should I buy those?

Bump down to some 35x12.5 BFG MT's and get chromo shafts.

Here's a clearance deal on USA Gear, used to be Alloy USA, shafts that I almost bought myself.

Go to rockauto.com and do a part number search for ZAW24126 . It will bring it up. Only 1 remaining, so hurry up.

You'd still need to get some ujoints and then you'll be B squad leader again.

AggieTJ2007
05-10-2013, 10:53 PM
Listen to Fred, he is wise

85cj7
05-10-2013, 10:54 PM
That's not a bad deal fred. Take the money that you save on what fred sent you and invest in some good ujoints. Itll still be close to 600 when you are said and done. But youll be set for a while.

Fyi. You might want yo check whith complete offroad. I got some 'blemish' yukon superjoint ujoints from them for $220 a pair. They mght have some left.

sam_hodnett
05-11-2013, 12:56 AM
Thanks Fred! ill get on that as soon as I get my next paycheck. And I am also going to need to replace my front balljoints.

TdmayfieldIV
05-11-2013, 02:57 AM
Buy moog and forget about it. Lifetime warranty........nuff said.

JB
05-11-2013, 09:53 AM
Haha. Yes, get smaller tires and buy chromos, like Fred said. ;)

sam_hodnett
05-11-2013, 01:23 PM
I just broke a moog u joint. I dont know how to get it replaced when there is literally nothing left of it

eight
05-11-2013, 09:44 PM
Does it still use the scout Dana 30 style bolt on hubs and dinky stubs? Sure by now somebody's figured out how to swap on ford outers.

Sharpe
05-12-2013, 03:10 PM
Pack spares regardless of what brand you get.

colman
05-12-2013, 07:29 PM
i know ford d44 chevy d44 and fsj d44 can all be swapped with d30 stuff and vice versa.... so if you want to upgrade to a stronger outer go with all ford d44, small bearing chevy/fsj d44 knuckles and spindles and then ford hubs and rotors..... and get good u joints

texasxj
05-13-2013, 07:42 AM
I've got fsj 44 outer stuff.....hubs, backing plates, 1 knuckle, 1 spindle, calipers.....6 lug

85cj7
05-13-2013, 12:26 PM
I've got two outer chevy stubs if you need them.

sam_hodnett
10-20-2016, 11:07 AM
I could have sworn that I had updated this thread, guess not.

Over the last couple of years, I have done a few minor upgrades to the scout, mainly buying and installing the chromolly shafts that Fred posted, and then this past winter, Fred and I went over this thing for a couple of weeks, cannot remember all we did, but it is back in driving condition. Biggest additions were the chromos, CTM u-joints, and 35-14.50 bias ply pitbull rockers.

I moved to Dallas in October of last year, so I am storing this thing at my parents in Paris, which limits my wrenching and driving time. I was home a couple of weeks ago, and the Belle fired up on the first turn.

Last spring my Duramax started giving me serious issues, so I sold her a couple of weeks ago and bought a 2015 1500. Crew cab, 6.5 bed, 4x4. We will see how I handle the transition from diesel towing to half ton towing.

Seth
11-23-2016, 10:19 PM
Humble brag? :flipoff2: