PROJECT: Pink Panther [Archive]

Graystroke

01-16-2005, 06:57 PM

I couldn't think of any other good names for this. Post up if you have any. Here is some pics. It's a 1961 Series II Land Rover. The plan is for full widths, hummer wheels, ~38" tires. Drive train isn't decided on for sure. I'd like to put a diesel in it. I have another rover V-8, 5spd, and LR T-case that I could slap in it. we'll see. Sorry for some of the blurry pics. my camera didn't like the light. :confused:

mark

01-16-2005, 07:50 PM

I've got a better name for it:
Roversniperspyder II

robertf03

01-16-2005, 07:54 PM

you'd catch a lot less **** from the rover crowd with a rover drivetrain, and I'm anti diesel so buick gets my vote

range rover air bags maybe? :D

aggiemudman

01-16-2005, 10:00 PM

those harbor freight wheel dollies?

:cheers:

agjohn02

01-16-2005, 11:03 PM

hmm, all i can come up with is "The Gray Ghost"

stinger7401

01-16-2005, 11:14 PM

no creative name or anything but props on taking the resto on, can't wait to see the progress and oh definately diesel...

BigRedFord04

01-16-2005, 11:42 PM

man that thing's ugly....but has potential. lose the top, bob the back, hack the fenders, definately full widths....between Kopecki's J33P and Nix's Ranger i love the look on a narrow vehicle....and maybe a 3.8L TT :gigem:

whats the wheelbase on that thing btw?

eight

01-17-2005, 12:16 AM

I like it. I'd make it a cruiser with a diesel, some full widths and 35s and sell the suburban. The body's a little wider than a jeep?

AgDieseler

01-17-2005, 12:40 AM

That 6AT you were looking at would make all the power you need, and should be fairly quiet, too.

Sharpe

01-17-2005, 12:46 AM

Someone else posted this name awhile back about something else but I thought it was funny as hell and since you said pink are going with a diesel, "The Stinky Pinky"

agjohn02

01-17-2005, 01:13 AM

ooh, a powerstroke, then it could be "THE GRAYSTROKE"

jerryg79

01-17-2005, 08:35 AM

Project Limey

Project Redcoat

I got nothin'

Its ironic that you started this thread cause I just saw one of those on the side of a freeway with a huge engine fire, it was the same body style, and no I dont know any specifics, except that it was indeed on fire.

Graystroke

01-17-2005, 03:39 PM

Pink Panther b/c of the old British Pink Panther SAS vehicles for desert warfare. I figured John (Mr. soon to be SF's) COX would have caught it. Here's some pics of a real Pink Panther. They found out that this color blended with the Sahara sand....plus it looks FABULOUS! what?!...
Answers to ?'s:
Yes, those are Harbour Freight Dollies.
No, to the Power Stroke. No the the bobbing off the back. yes to the hacking the wells and full widths. yes to the soft top w/ a full cage (safari cage).
Yes to the 6AT.
109" wheel base. I plan on using the suburban springs I got from brett in the back and the stock rears (- some leaves) in the front.
I think the width is around 64" from fender edge to fender edge.
The body is all, and I mean ALL aluminum. The entire roof panels and sides is aluminum. Notice the Safari Roof on the top. That makes it about 15* cooler inside the cab. Air goes between the two. It also has four little vents in the roof. This thing can supposedly seat 12! Small little limey's!
You have to pull the tranny from inside. Welded in thick crossmembers. which will be remedied later. Fully boxed frame made up of flat plate. Yes, they welded the entire frame w/ four pieces of plate!
A fender weighs in at a hefty 5 lbs. easy to beat back if it bends.
Inside are a few newer fenders, another hood w/o spare tire mount. Hard to see over a 38" tire, let alone lift one on the hood.
Another cool thing about the truck...it has 3 spare tire mounts. one on the rear bulkhead(inside behind rear seats), one on the rear door, one on the hood.
one more tidbit: The Aussie's supposedly got all pissed off when the series III came out b/c of the new plastic grill. Those that frequented the bush were using the II's wire mesh grill for the barbie.

usmcagg02

01-17-2005, 07:17 PM

Project Limey
beat me to it, although my idea had ***** on the end

BigRedFord04

01-17-2005, 08:23 PM

no bobbing b.c. its aluminiuminumum? or you like the look?

gonna try to keep it approx the same WB?

agjohn02

01-17-2005, 08:32 PM

ive never heard of the pink desert rovers. cool though. your juevos arent big enough to paint that thing pink so you better get another name.

davido

01-17-2005, 10:46 PM

That's a sweet rig. Too bad you'll be staying on the easy to medium trail runs for a long time, but sweet none the less. You might be able to get a 9.5" spare, but you also have tons of room in the back. I'm guessing you're going to move the rear axle back so you don't have to cut towards the doors? Can't wait to see it come together. You sticking with white?

texasxj

01-17-2005, 10:54 PM

gonna be an interesting build up. looks pretty cool! good luck!

Fredo

01-18-2005, 02:54 AM

Too bad you'll be staying on the easy to medium trail runs for a long time, but sweet none the less.

What a ****y ****er. Man, just because the guy doesn't want to totally hack the **** out of it doesn't mean he's not going to put it through some ****. By the way, how's that carb treating ya? :flipoff2:

davido

01-18-2005, 01:44 PM

Uh, yeah it does. :flipoff2: ... at least it would for me. It's a sweet vintage rig and that's a lot of aluminum and glass to be flopping on it's side. I dig the rig, but I wish he was building more of a beater that he would be willing to hit trails where flops and body damage is likely. Similar to what Jimmy decided on. If you're asking me, the carb has done surprisingly well. I still want to do TBI though. The only stall I had was coming down the big middle slide on 3 stage. It did a wheel stand and scared he hell out of me when I didn't have any power. I pushed in the clutch, crashed to the ground and saved it. But it was hairy for a split second. Hairier than it needed to be.

Jackasic

01-18-2005, 04:10 PM

i say polish the pig and screw painting it. Cheap way to polish it would be to blast it with glass bead. PIM-TASTIC! :D

Graystroke

01-18-2005, 04:22 PM

jerryg79

01-18-2005, 04:24 PM

body parts are cheap
LR5R Front outer wing skin RH 33.25 that's in sterling. so figure about $50 bones for a new fender. It will be beat on and I have have some ideas to protect the body similar to this:

Who needs to goto the trail to have it beat on, just let jimmy throw some rocks at it :flipoff2:

Graystroke

02-02-2005, 05:10 PM

this the drivetrain I could throw in the 109. I have a 4.2 complete. Can choose from a ZF auto or a R380 5spd, the other pic is of the LT230 t-case and the shifter. I need to figure out a way to Cheap Bastard the diff lock. This came out of a 99 DII...they didn't have a selectable diff lock, all the t-cases were fitted w/ them. just no way to shift from inside. If I can find a shifter off an old RR or DI for cheap I'll go that route.
On the V-8 I would convert it to some kind of chevy FI. The only advantage of this engine is decent power, it's free, and it weighs around 300 lbs dressed (aluminum block/heads). I would rather put an oil burner in it. :D

Graystroke

02-02-2005, 05:16 PM

If I go the oil burner route...I have an intercooler from an International truck that was running a DT466...This may be the only good thing on a DT466. quit drooling David Oliver!

AgDieseler

02-02-2005, 06:02 PM

If I go the oil burner route...I have an intercooler from an International truck that was running a DT466...This may be the only good thing on a DT466. quit drooling David Oliver!
*Slurp* If you don't end up using that thing, I think I could find a loving home for it - for the right price of course. ;)

I also have a line on a 6.5L for you.

Sharpe

02-02-2005, 06:06 PM

Does the diff lock thing twist or pull out to engage? If it twists, wouldnt it be fairly easy to make a little arm for it and use a cable shifter? All aluminum huh...sweet.

robertf03

02-02-2005, 06:34 PM

heres a crazy idea...

I've heard that the jeep 225's use the same bell pattern as the buick 215 and that looks like a 10 spline output shaft. Do you know the diameter?

sm420's bolt to buick 225 bellhousings and have a 10 spline output shaft.......

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4524290162&category=34208&sspagename=WDVW

Graystroke

02-02-2005, 07:37 PM

are you saying put in a 225 in the rover or put a buick 215 in a jeep. The buick motors may have a different pattern than the rover motors.

robertf03

02-02-2005, 08:00 PM

215 and sm420 in the rover :) click the link

Graystroke

02-02-2005, 10:30 PM

good find...hmmm... rover v-8, sm 420, or 465 w/ divorced t-case.

Graystroke

02-02-2005, 10:35 PM

Does the diff lock thing twist or pull out to engage? If it twists, wouldnt it be fairly easy to make a little arm for it and use a cable shifter? All aluminum huh...sweet.
yeah, it turns. the stock shifter is your standard H-gate. forward for low and to left for lock in either high or low. I may convert this case to part time. this is done by removing the spider gears in the diff and installing a little mini-spool.

Sharpe

02-02-2005, 11:01 PM

Oh so its kinda like a Chevy NP203. They are fulltime cases and have a little differential inside for street driving but it can be locked for offroading. Several companies sell part-time kits for the 203 and the parts look like pieces of gears that you insert somewhere (I'm not familiar with the case...) in order to allow 2wd opperation. No one makes that kinda kit for limies?

Graystroke

02-03-2005, 03:24 PM

yeah, there's a place called BCB off-road in the northwest. prices are a little high for a mini-spool.

jerryg79

02-03-2005, 03:30 PM

yeah, there's a place called BCB off-road in the northwest. prices are a little high for a mini-spool.

northwest :rolleyes: ......pssssssssh :rainbow:, now the northEAST thats where its at :flipoff2:

Fredo

02-03-2005, 03:41 PM

northwest :rolleyes: ......pssssssssh :rainbow:, now the northEAST thats where its at :flipoff2:

The snow must be acting like crack to Jerry's brain. :flipoff2:

jerryg79

02-03-2005, 03:50 PM

The snow must be acting like crack to Jerry's brain. :flipoff2:

It just started god damn snowing again, son of beech, sheet, ass, ****!

BMFScout

02-03-2005, 04:07 PM

check out the for sale thread if you need proof :)

robertf03

02-03-2005, 04:10 PM

ah crap, jerry's been my benchmark, he better not get a running rig

and to keep it on topic,

diesels are gay , SM420's are cool

grayson you know you need that bellhousing

:flipoff2:

jerryg79

02-03-2005, 04:11 PM

ah crap, jerry's been my benchmark, he better not get a running rig

flem i just spit coke all over my monitor, ass :D

Sharpe

02-03-2005, 05:43 PM

BRAINSTORM. Poll-lock the little differential in the t-case!

Graystroke

02-03-2005, 07:32 PM

then I couldn't ever shift out of 4WD.

BMFScout

02-03-2005, 08:59 PM

why would you need to do that?

Graystroke

06-09-2005, 09:00 PM

The answer to all my problems! These just came out this week and they are gearing up for production...ashcroft quit making the bolt on box years ago b/c of supllier problems w/ the sun gears in the box. now they sell the box and drop in gears (helical cut for quiet operation)
http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk/category_12.html
I would go for the crawler box and keep 3.55's in the axles.
5.95(low)*6.53(1st)*3.55(axle ratio)=137.93:1(final low ratio)
no overdrive needed.
w/ 3.55's, 39" tires, and a 1:1 drive ratio=~2000rpm perfect for a diesel :)
price: 650 uk pounds or $1100.00

Graystroke

06-12-2005, 09:41 PM

I took the roof, doors, rear door, and seat box out today. used the lift truck to take the roof off. a couple of slings and off it came. found some intersting stuff in the back of it. a cool little built in storage box. funny old tag on the tranny tunnel. next I have to pull the rest of the body

Graystroke

06-12-2005, 09:47 PM

more pics contintued
a pic of a twisted axle...pretty impressive amount of twist for these dinky things, and a pic of the mighty land rover 4 spline pinion. I had never seen a four-spline pinion. I guess it takes the guess work out of synchronizing the yokes...50/50 chance. :) a pic of an old locking hub sticker on the winshield. a pic of the frame...now that is what you call a boxed frame. the frame rails are about 3 1/2 inches wide and 8 inches tall in the tranny area.

jerryg79

06-12-2005, 09:47 PM

That thing is PIMP! Jerry Like. Its in alot better shape then i thought.

davido

06-12-2005, 10:02 PM

That thing is going to be really bad ass!

Shaggy

06-12-2005, 10:32 PM

and it looks light too

Graystroke

06-12-2005, 11:21 PM

the body structure is super light. it ALL aluminum except or the cappings and inner door frames. The bulkhead (firewall) is steel also.
The frame on the othe hand is a big heavy SOB.

a door w/ glass probably weighs 20 lbs. my metal full doors w/ glass probably weigh less than jeep half doors.

Graystroke

06-12-2005, 11:27 PM

I also discovered that someone has done some repairs on the RH rear qtr. All the rivets in that qtr are pop-rivets which aren't LR spec. LR uses button heads on all their stuff. I guess I'll by one of those Harbor Freight riveters and see how it works.

Graystroke

06-13-2005, 11:04 PM

how about leafs in the rear and a coil three link in the front?

AgDieseler

06-14-2005, 07:29 AM

how about leafs in the rear and a coil three link in the front?
...and eight link is stronger. :rolleyes:

Coilovers or coils and shocks seperate? I would think that there isn't much real estate for anything but a coilover. I think of the ORD blazer as a good three link front to follow. Leaves for the rear would make sense as long as the spring rate and rear-sprung weight is well matched.

I like this truck. It makes me want to build a diesel Landy. :D

BMFScout

06-14-2005, 08:50 AM

you and Grayson should collaborate, you are probably the only two in this club that think a 6.2 in there is a good idea! :)

jerryg79

06-14-2005, 08:53 AM

THis is becoming chadnutz-esque - 4 pages and we just got the body off the frame :flipoff2:

"Oh yeah well maybe if you a-holes stop posting stupid ****, jeez, do you know what kinda deal i got on this thing?"

mudtoy67

06-14-2005, 10:36 AM

I think the coilovers would be cool. Kinda like that late model rover someone posted a pic of a while back that had the coilovers and hoops sticking through the hood.

Graystroke

06-14-2005, 08:16 PM

$$$$= high dollar
$= cheap
coil overs= $$$$

used OME rear RR springs = -$
there's plenty of room. I would have to outboard the leafs anyway.

Sharpe

06-15-2005, 02:09 AM

you and Grayson should collaborate, you are probably the only two in this club that think a 6.2 in there is a good idea! :)
I say he should do it just to spite people.

BMFScout

06-15-2005, 09:50 AM

I say he should do it just to spite people.

spite or smite them with excessive amounts of smoke and noise. While making poop for power?

Fredo

06-15-2005, 10:11 AM

I say he should do it just to spite people.

Uh oh....looks like we've got a closet 6.2 lover! :flipoff2:

Sharpe

06-15-2005, 11:32 AM

I'm already out of the closet. I'm putting one in my trail truck. Time will tell if I love it or not though. If its indeed a turd one of my 454's will probably find its way in there.

JeepPhisherman

06-15-2005, 01:33 PM

I'm already out of the closet.

Just thought that needed to be hilighted for everyone's good.

aggieblazer07

06-15-2005, 01:51 PM

:laughing:

Graystroke

06-15-2005, 06:21 PM

quit turning this thing into an epic. post your gay lover **** in another thread

Graystroke

07-09-2005, 05:54 PM

I took the body off today. took a whole 2 hours to get it to where it sits now in the pics. My Dad and I were able to just lift off the tub and set it on the saw horses...the benefits of an all aluminum tub! :D The frame is a lot better than I thought...very little rust on he tops. I'll have to replace the front horns and rear X-member (fairly routine on a rover of this age). somebody ghetto fabbed the outriggers on the rear springs. doesn't matter b/c they will be whacked off to make room for the longer sub springs.

Do you think a diesel will fit in there? may have to remove/rework some of the x-members.

Graystroke

07-09-2005, 05:58 PM

I have doubles of a lot of body panels...I need to have a "auto-jumble" (limey speak) to et rid of this crap.
check out the factory beefed axle tube. the u-bolt runs through it kind of like a skid plate I guess.

uglyota

07-09-2005, 07:36 PM

hey toyota did that, but they put the trusses on the bottom, where they're needed and you don't have to put the ubolts through them!
:flipoff2:

Graystroke

07-09-2005, 08:28 PM

they are on the bottom :confused: was toyota even making 4wd trucks in 1961?

agjohn02

07-09-2005, 11:48 PM

quit turning this thing into an epic. post your gay lover **** in another thread

too late, it started with the title referring to something pink and british :flipoff2:

uglyota

07-10-2005, 03:11 PM

looks like the front?
yes the FJ40 came out in 1960

agjohn02

12-07-2005, 12:53 PM

i just finished reading one of andy mcnab's books. he was a member of the british SAS and they called their D110's "pinkie"s.

robertf03

06-01-2007, 10:24 AM

new idea grayson. It would fix the headliner problem in the range rover.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1990-LAND-ROVER-RANGE-ROVER-VOGUE-SE-A-GREEN_W0QQitemZ110132758027QQihZ001QQcategoryZ2974 8QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

kind of gives me a chub. Its the way freelanders should have been built.

BMFScout

06-01-2007, 10:41 AM

Jackasic

06-01-2007, 03:56 PM

saw a series I (i guess) truck in Pasadena today, it was a truck cab with a long box. Looked pretty cool in olive drag, had two AARP guys driving around in it.

Graystroke

06-01-2007, 11:03 PM

I was looking at it yesterday....I think it may become a p/u w/ a dovetail ala the murphy bell. I would really like a 2 door RR. Saw one couple weeks ago over at my friends Sam's place.

robertf03

06-21-2007, 12:14 AM

this ones got a cummins 6bt and TJ flares

http://www.maritimerovers.org/discus/messages/2/9264.jpg

kind of how I envision my 2009 import plans going, except for 20" more wheelbase and the mandatory 350 and dana 60s :D

agjohn02

06-21-2007, 12:25 AM

kind of how I envision my 2009 import plans

you gonna use student loans for that?

savvyaggie

06-21-2007, 12:54 AM

I like...

Graystroke

06-21-2007, 09:19 AM

i saw that too...find me a 6bt 12 valve.

robertf03

06-21-2007, 10:15 AM

www.car-part.com

just got your message, important stuff or not?

Graystroke

06-21-2007, 02:33 PM

davido

06-21-2007, 06:28 PM

That thing is cool as hell!

agjohn02

06-23-2007, 11:10 PM

dont ask how i found this. i assure you i am not a homosexual.

http://www.landyonline.co.za/workshop/international28lhs.html

robertf03

06-23-2007, 11:25 PM

This is my favorite part:

"The 300tdi has a design life of 200 000km (according to some sort of industrial standard) and the 2.8i has a design life of 300 000km according to the same scale."

****ty life span aside, what is this "some sort of indistrial standard" ? sounds credible

BMFScout

06-24-2007, 03:13 AM

International Like IH? You don't have anything to worry on design life if that's the case.

Graystroke

06-24-2007, 10:43 PM

international as in navistar...the same people that brought you the 6.0L powerstroke....you may want to worry a little bit...

mudtoy67

06-24-2007, 11:06 PM

international as in navistar...the same people that brought you the 6.0L powerstroke....you may want to worry a little bit...

Supposedly that was Ford's fault not navistar. I read somewhere that Ford pushed for the specifics of the 6.0 even though Navistar said it was a bad idea and that they would not warranty the engines. When the engines started f'ing up, Navistar wouldn't honor the warranty and Ford sued. I don't remember the rest.

agjohn02

06-25-2007, 12:44 AM

Supposedly that was Ford's fault not navistar.

thats what i heard too

robertf03

08-12-2007, 11:58 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BUICK-215-ALUMINUM-4SPD-V8-Bellhousing-MGB-V8-ROVER-V8_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33732QQihZ002QQitemZ 120148853930QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

you missed your chance

i might email the guy and see if he'll relist it

I think I'll be needing something like that in the future :gigem:

robertf03

08-28-2007, 07:27 PM

kickass miata engine Grayson, an injection system like this would be good on the Black Panther (note the K&N pre filter)

http://forum.miata.net/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=37115

Graystroke

08-28-2007, 08:21 PM

he is saving it! is the manifold a RR? what kind of injection is that? edelbrock? looks good...nice and shiny.

robertf03

11-27-2007, 10:47 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-5-N-A-Land-Rover-Diesel-engine-complete_W0QQitemZ130176680535QQihZ003QQcategoryZ3 3615QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Would this work?

Graystroke

11-27-2007, 11:35 PM

yeah that would work. I could bolt up my R380 behind it...problem is it's only 67 hp and I doubt it would push my truck past 55 mp w/ 35" tires and higher gears. They were turds. 200tdi is a lot better It will be intersting to see what it goes for. I bet it does for over a $1k. for that kinda money you could find a 12v cummins and I could sell my R380 to you ad buy a NV4500 and a t-case adapter.

robertf03

11-28-2007, 12:07 AM

did you get the 727 adapter? the green truck isn't there anymore.

Graystroke

11-28-2007, 12:20 AM

nah, I didn't have the time to go over there and pullin a tranny and t-case in the dirt didn't sound like too much fun. I went over there and looked at it and asked the guys if I could just buy the whole thing. If I could have done it my way it would involve removing all good body parts and flipping it over on it's side w/ the fork lift for easy access :D

Graystroke

11-30-2007, 12:48 AM

went for $987....wow thats a lot of money for 67 hp
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-5-N-A-Land-Rover-Diesel-engine-complete_W0QQitemZ130176680535QQihZ003QQcategoryZ3 3615QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

robertf03

11-30-2007, 01:00 AM

I really don't understand the fascination with the stock diesel swaps. It looks like everyone that has one admits they are slower than a even a 3.5, aAnd with as many accountant and financial types as there are into these vehicles, 25mpg after at least $8000 conversion (for a shop to do it) seems like an odd justification. You could buy 2 new 4.6's from rovers north for that. Some of the d-90 source people even take their tdi converted trucks to the dealer for service. Do the dealer parts warehouses even stock that stuff?