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BeachJeepin
04-10-2005, 09:01 PM
After hearing about Wingfield's $80 fill up today, I thought I'd share my newest experiment:

1 oz. acetone for every 5 gallons of gas. Guys have been getting about 4-10 mpg better when doing this... I'm giving it a shot. If anything, my engine will get cleaned. Bought my quart of acetone at Wally-world, and so far, I've noticed that my acceleration is a lot smoother, and my idle speed is lower. So far, so good. I'll keep everyone updated. Right now I'm getting 14 mpg.

Some people are concerned about acetone eating your rubber hoses and stuff, but its only 1/600 of the capacity of my tank, nothing to worry about. Others have been doing it for years, with great success.

I've been trying to come up with plans, since last year, to add hydrogen gas to my air intake (I know, I know), using the electrolysis of water. I've done tons of research. And looks like pretty plausible. One possible problem is that hydrogen does have affects on engine blocks. There has been signs of brittleness occuring on the inside of the combustion chamber. Anyway, just ideas right now......

Here's the forum link i've been watching about acetone:
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=51453

AggieTJ2007
04-10-2005, 10:02 PM
the hydrogen thing sounds pretty cool. I think it would work pretty well if you added the hydrogen and the oxygen both to the intake, for better combustion and more fuel

stinger7401
04-10-2005, 10:08 PM
the hydrogen thing sounds pretty cool. I think it would work pretty well if you added the hydrogen and the oxygen both to the intake, for better combustion and more fuel

i think if you add two parts oxygen and one part hydrogen in large quanities to your air fuel mix i hear that produces enough power to bend rods! Who wants to try it, i have a bottle of the mix right now but ill let you pour it down the intake :flipoff2:

eight
04-10-2005, 10:17 PM
Nick the correct ratio is 2 parts hydrogen to one part oxygen. If he did like you said it'd run too lean and burn holes in pistons and valves and such.

TxCruzr
04-10-2005, 10:21 PM
I read about the whole acetone thing on pirate and even though no one has really had any problems with it, my motor cost just a tad too much to pour that stuff down it. Even though it is diluted a bunch it still is some pretty strong stuff. You can water down arsenic but I'm sure it will still kick your ass eventually. Just make sure not to spill it when you’re dumping it in your tank :gigem:

stx4wheeler
04-10-2005, 11:36 PM
someone explain why acetone would help you get better mileage? and in kinda lamens terms if you please.

RCcola55
04-11-2005, 12:50 AM
allows the excess fuel to vaporize which in turn allows u use it all up rather then wasting it, thus better gas milage

http://pesn.com/2005/03/17/6900069_Acetone/

BeachJeepin
04-11-2005, 12:52 AM
okay well basically the acetone reduces surface tension when mixed with gasoline, so that you come closer to completely burning all the fuel used in each chamber. The more you burn efficiently, the more power you get and the better gas mileage.

The cleaning component of the STP crap is made of acetone. So you are also cleaning the inside of you engine while doing this. No one has ever has problems with it messing up their engine...

http://pesn.com/2005/03/17/6900069_Acetone/

robertf03
04-11-2005, 12:56 AM
someone explain why acetone would help you get better mileage? and in kinda lamens terms if you please.

it doesn't

mudtoy67
04-11-2005, 03:14 AM
Seems a little "too good to be true." I'm wondering about long term effects on engine components. The guy in the article on PESW said he was soaking parts in acetone solution, and the parts were fine. But that's not what's happenning in an engine, they're not soaking in liquid they're being "burned" by the ignited liquid. Seems like by making the fuel burn easier it would be theoretcially reducing the octane rating, making detonation more possible.

Just some thoughts.... :)

Doug Krebs
04-11-2005, 09:19 AM
why wouldn't gas companies do this and charge a premium for a different grade of gas? Why wouldn't the government force companies to do this?

BeachJeepin
04-11-2005, 01:53 PM
They do use acetone to up the octane rating... My research has shown me that people have made devices to increase mileage significantly, but they've never made it out to production, because the patents were bought out by, guess who, oil companies....

There's nothing wrong with the experiment. The guy was just trying to see what effect it has on rubber fuel lines. Soaking it is the most extreme abuse the fuel line would ever see. So if the acetone barely does anything to the lines when it is soaked in it, what could it do it acetone is merely traveling down the line for a couple of seconds, then washed away by gas?

So far, no one has seen any damage when they took apart there engine. Doesn't mean it couldn't happen, though.

This is why it is crucial to have the right mixture... If you put more than 1 oz. per 5 gallons, it WILL lower the octane rating.

All I know is that people have proven that it works, and I can tell a difference, so why not believe it? It does work from a scientific standpoint.....

jerryg79
04-11-2005, 01:58 PM
I think we should all not buy gas on April 27th - that'll show 'em :flipoff2:

stx4wheeler
04-11-2005, 02:27 PM
I think we should all not buy gas on April 27th - that'll show 'em :flipoff2:


oh geez not this again!!!!!! :flipoff2:

TxCruzr
04-11-2005, 02:31 PM
You have to fill up a bunch of jerry cans so you can go a whole week without filling up. That way they have to drop the price 20cents a day :eek:
:flipoff2:

jerryg79
04-11-2005, 02:50 PM
oh geez not this again!!!!!! :flipoff2:

what, you dont think it will work, OPEC fears the common man!

stx4wheeler
04-11-2005, 06:04 PM
what, you dont think it will work, OPEC fears the common man!

yes yes it makes perfect since now no one on earth buy gas the 27th, and lets all fill up on the 29th before we run out of gas that'll show um, this is especially funny to me cause my dad's company that he works for owns all the circle k's in texas, and otehr asorted stuff, and it takes around three-five days for a price increase or decrease in the market to make a change on the street, alrighty anyway ill drop the hi-jack and let you all spank it with acetone :eek: :flipoff2:

jerryg79
04-11-2005, 06:35 PM
yes yes it makes perfect since now no one on earth buy gas the 27th, and lets all fill up on the 29th before we run out of gas that'll show um, this is especially funny to me cause my dad's company that he works for owns all the circle k's in texas, and otehr asorted stuff, and it takes around three-five days for a price increase or decrease in the market to make a change on the street, alrighty anyway ill drop the hi-jack and let you all spank it with acetone :eek: :flipoff2:

if you think im serious then your dumber then you are small :flipoff2:

BeachJeepin
04-11-2005, 11:05 PM
Is anyone gonna try this besides me?

AggieTJ2007
04-11-2005, 11:19 PM
i am going to try it on my next tank on the way out to TCC, I figure highway mileage is the best guage to see if it works, plus I can easily tell powergains, because 5th hills 75 and 3.73s usually don't go together very well

stx4wheeler
04-12-2005, 01:19 AM
if you think im serious then your dumber then you are small :flipoff2:

it was sarcasm with a little bit of knowledge of the petroleum industry :flipoff2:

uglyota
04-12-2005, 10:47 AM
Is anyone gonna try this besides me?
nope, not even in the ugly truck

JB
04-12-2005, 11:51 PM
So just the Acetone that I can get at Home Depot?

TxCruzr
04-13-2005, 12:06 AM
I was talking to my dad and he was telling me that when he worked at Texas Motor Exchange that they had motors come in all the time with burnt valves due to running rubbing alcohol, acetone and other junk.
How I see it is we don't have these rigs to be fast, if we did we would buy sport cars. We don't have them to get good gas mileage, if we did we would buy ricers. You might save some cash in gas $$$ but make sure its worth it to maybe rebuild your motor later down the road sooner than you plan.
I'm being a post whore today so I fingered I'd post this :D


So just the Acetone that I can get at Home Depot?
yep

TexTJ209
04-13-2005, 12:12 AM
if we did we would buy ricers.

Didn't you? :flipoff2:

And nah...even though gas sucks right now, I'm not trying that. Good luck with it though man, let us know how it comes out.

agjohn02
04-13-2005, 12:29 AM
i read on pirate it gives you an extra 25 hp and makes your poo-poo smell good too.

agjohn02
07-03-2006, 09:36 PM
http://www.lubedev.com/smartgas/additive.htm


gonna try it out on the way back to CS.

Seth
07-03-2006, 10:53 PM
sounds a little hokey to me. i am a skeptic at heart though. I am always curious about additives in general (MMO, synthetic oils, fuel and or oil treatments, sea foam, restore, etc.) I found an oil site the other day that was interesting. bobistheoilguy.com - he also has a link an oil forum that has a ton of info.

PS - my farts are toxic tonight

agjohn02
07-06-2006, 12:27 AM
doesnt work. same drive as saturday, higher average speed 1 mpg less. i might have noticed a tad bit more power, not enough to mention though.

Graystroke
07-06-2006, 10:08 PM
i might have noticed a tad bit more power, not enough to mention though.
that's b/c you were heading back towards sea level! :flipoff2:

agjohn02
07-06-2006, 10:17 PM
thats it! damn the thin air in Mt. Pleasant. also, i reckon it was a long downhill run.