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CRaSHnBuRN
10-30-2005, 01:58 PM
I made up a list a few days ago of all the stuff I had/wanted to do before the trip to clayton, and **** there was alot of stuff on there.

So my question is, just how much stuff do you still have to do to be ready? I know a few of the people I've talked with lately have a pretty long list

TxCruzr
10-30-2005, 03:05 PM
I have a short list... :gigem:

Shaggy
10-30-2005, 03:19 PM
ummm clayton... maby next year

uglyota
10-30-2005, 09:59 PM
in order of importance
new rear springs
make gas $$$
make/install antiwrap bar
fix exhaust leaks
finish building axle and install
build front shock mounts/install
no problem

agjohn02
10-30-2005, 10:09 PM
35's
black steelies
move front spring hanger back
longer front shackles
extra rear main leaf
maybe front bumpstops

uglyota
10-30-2005, 10:19 PM
you still don't have bumpstops?

agjohn02
10-30-2005, 10:30 PM
you still don't have bumpstops?


nope, dont need em with the 33's. i thought the driveshaft would hit the trtanny pan, but once i got it on there it didnt. if i go to 35's ill have to do something to keep them from rubbing the rear of the front fenderwell.

stx4wheeler
10-30-2005, 10:56 PM
i've got quite a lot but not quite as bad since i have decided to leave the front 44 in for one more trip

unfreeze front right bleeder screw and bleed brakes
install zero rates
fawk with tie rod some trying to straighten it out a bit and protect it
finish new extened,heimed radius arms, and mounts.
new front ujoints
build rear antiwrap bar, if time allows
change oil
redo exhaust hangers
replace header gasket
wire up rock lights
install cd player

im sure there are more odds and ends

CheapJeep
10-30-2005, 11:19 PM
I got all the parts, I just gotta do it.
Install-
drag link
front shims
rear u-bolts and spring plates
rear driveshaft
front driveshaft
power steering pump
p.s. hoses and fittings
change oil
head unit, 6x9's, and my old ass 10"
full cage...
It's not too bad considering I have everything and it'll only take me about a full weekend at home to do it.

chevsu
10-31-2005, 08:20 AM
load jeep on trailer and ............ pack. :flipoff2:

AgDieseler
10-31-2005, 09:45 AM
Graduate, buy beer, leave

jerryg79
10-31-2005, 09:53 AM
Purchase receiver and ball for hitch, Drive 1500 miles, make gas money

Sharpe
10-31-2005, 10:15 AM
Fix everything wrong with the mota, including but not limited to;
rear main seal
alternator
maybe bad cylinder
gauges (none work)
revise engine crossmember

mount shocks and bump stops
finish OBA
cut shifter hole in floor bigger
find some kind of toolbox to mount on truck

CRaSHnBuRN
10-31-2005, 10:17 AM
thats all robert? I figured the way you were talking you had much more to do

CRaSHnBuRN
10-31-2005, 10:19 AM
as for me, the only things I have to really do is clean the bastard off, check the fluids, and go, but there is a lot I want to do. I want to fix my leaking PS system, as well as add some more tubework and storage. Maybe even get ambitious and add a roof and hood in case its raining

BMFScout
10-31-2005, 12:35 PM
weld rear/ass back together re-install floor, gas tank, etc.
bend up some cage action
harnesses
windshield (highly overrated)
exhaust
Need FlemCo Enterprises to burn me a super secret 345 chip for the TBI.
other misc. crap.
would like to get PSC upgraded box and pump like Fred.
overall, getting it "complete enough" shouldn't be a problem.
ro sham bo Fred to see who gets to use the trailer, thinking about getting some antique plates to make everything legal, checking into that.

all of that or get some extra batteries for the wally world RC crawler I just bought, and make sure they are charged up.

uglyota
10-31-2005, 02:00 PM
cage building sounds like a good warmup for the marathon...maybe get some "carbo loading" in there too...

AggieTJ2007
10-31-2005, 02:41 PM
Yeah I need to build a cage for my jeep too,
and maybe get a new windshield

stx4wheeler
10-31-2005, 02:58 PM
Yeah I need to build a cage for my jeep too,
and maybe get a new windshield

you need an indrustrial size roll of bubble wrap and some saftey harnesses!!!!

AggieTJ2007
10-31-2005, 04:30 PM
yeah, if i build the cage i will get at least 1 5-point

J Cooper
10-31-2005, 04:42 PM
i think it needs a coat hanger

Fredo
10-31-2005, 04:52 PM
Let's see here:
-stop daily driving it so I can work on it
-weld up ripped hole in frame and rebuild spring hanger so that it no longer sits inside frame.
-rebuild mangled front spring hanger and replace centerpin
-bend up and weld in door bars for cage
-pour a couple quarts of Lucas Oil in engine, say a prayer, and sprinkle holy water on 345
-Same procedure for Tcase for good measure.
-drink beer.
-lots of it.

Doug Krebs
10-31-2005, 06:34 PM
Things to do:

Reassemble dana 60
make arms
buying tubing or pipe
tap ends and make steering linkages
hydroassist
fix brake caliper
clean up wiring
wire rock lights

If time:

new back bumper
??

73bronco
10-31-2005, 08:14 PM
Things to do:

Reassemble dana 60
make arms
buying tubing or pipe
tap ends and make steering linkages
hydroassist
fix brake caliper
clean up wiring
wire rock lights

If time:

new back bumper
??


Hey krebs I just bought some 1.5" DOM for $12 a foot shipped from completeoffroad. Has the right inner diameter for the tap so no machining needed.

uglyota
11-01-2005, 10:49 AM
what wall is that? 3/8?

agjohn02
11-01-2005, 12:19 PM
make/install antiwrap bar


how do you expect to make it up a hill with no hop? :flipoff2:

uglyota
11-01-2005, 12:21 PM
lockah :D

chevsu
11-01-2005, 02:53 PM
and what was the I.D. of that tubing?

eight
11-01-2005, 06:05 PM
A 7/8 UNF tap takes a 13/16" hole.

stx4wheeler
11-01-2005, 08:46 PM
Hey krebs I just bought some 1.5" DOM for $12 a foot shipped from completeoffroad. Has the right inner diameter for the tap so no machining needed.

man you all should have bought tube with me.***

Doug Krebs
11-01-2005, 09:15 PM
A 7/8 UNF tap takes a 13/16" hole.

I've seen 53/64" hole

chevsu
11-02-2005, 08:16 AM
i like to use a 51/64 drill.

73bronco
11-02-2005, 11:25 AM
what wall is that? 3/8?

.343" Wall 1.5" DOM

AgDieseler
11-02-2005, 09:00 PM
Graduate, buy beer, leave
Scratch that. I ain't making it this time. Too many people coming down on Friday, and I need to hang around here for them. Have fun.

uglyota
11-02-2005, 11:41 PM
I predict that's the first drop of the waterfall...you havin a gradjiation party? :D

AgDieseler
11-03-2005, 08:33 AM
I predict that's the first drop of the waterfall...you havin a gradjiation party? :D
Definitely. Lissa and Rick are in charge of all that. It will probably be here at the house, beer, Jaeger, and good times.

Fredo
11-03-2005, 10:57 AM
Sorry buddy, congrats on graduating and all that, but I'll be wheeling, not at a graduation party. :)

stx4wheeler
11-03-2005, 11:16 AM
Definitely. Lissa and Rick are in charge of all that. It will probably be here at the house, beer, Jaeger, and good times.

have tamor graduation party, then week or two later have another graduation party.

its a great excuse for having another party.

J Cooper
11-03-2005, 11:32 AM
yeah definetely, who else would you wanna end it all with?

uglyota
11-04-2005, 01:55 AM
Definitely. Lissa and Rick are in charge of all that. It will probably be here at the house, beer, Jaeger, and good times.
just don't show off your nutsack again please :flipoff2:

AgDieseler
11-04-2005, 09:43 AM
just don't show off your nutsack again please :flipoff2:
:hangs head:

uglyota
11-04-2005, 12:17 PM
:hangs head proudly:
:gigem:

8Runner
11-05-2005, 05:54 PM
Ok, here's my list - not too much, but I am short on time.

Shorten Driveshaft
Grind down crossmember and truss so driveshaft doesn't hit
Lower rear end a notch on the shackles & cut off excess shackle
Replace front axle seal so it doesn't leak on my brakes anymore
Install rocklights

AggieTJ2007
11-05-2005, 06:10 PM
that doesn't sound to bad

uglyota
11-07-2005, 11:36 AM
lemme know when you want to replace that axle seal...$5 part and about 3 hours
hopefully :D

CRaSHnBuRN
11-07-2005, 12:23 PM
actually its a 9 dollar part, and can be done much faster if you know the trick (we are talking about the inner axle seal on the front axle, right?)

uglyota
11-07-2005, 12:44 PM
$4.44/ea at rockauto :flipoff2:
and the last 4 knuckles I helped with I used the "camo method;" I was just being conservative on the time estimate

CRaSHnBuRN
11-07-2005, 12:50 PM
yeah, the camo method is the way to go.

Chadnutz
11-07-2005, 01:11 PM
What do I do if the axle tore up the housing where the outer axle seals is a little bit when my profield broke?

uglyota
11-07-2005, 01:21 PM
You messed up the seat for the knuckle seal? You put a new seal in it and it won't seal up? Dunno, don't think they make a speedy sleeve for those. Housing's trashed...I'll give you 2x scrap price for it ;)

Chadnutz
11-07-2005, 01:29 PM
The seal you see just behing this exploded diagram ;) got kind of torn up. I haven't tried to replace it, but I should.

http://tamor.us/members-rigs/albums/ChadnutzTCC3/Mason_24.sized.jpg

8Runner
11-07-2005, 01:49 PM
How's this weekend for changing that seal? Should I go buy the seal first or wait until we take it apart to make sure that is the problem?

uglyota
11-07-2005, 02:07 PM
you didn't use the camo method...
chadwell you should be able to just replace that seal...I doubt that messed up the seat. yank old out, press new in, reassemble
Chris that's definitely the problem. This weekend should work.

BMFScout
11-07-2005, 02:53 PM
replace with axle that doesn't suck

8Runner
11-07-2005, 03:41 PM
replace with axle that doesn't suck

Haha, we'll see if it sucks after clayton (at which I am now notorious for killing axle parts) - I think it will be pretty damn bulletproof with all the shiny new innards.


Eric, maybe I misunderstood, but should I go buy the inner axle seal now?

I am thinking of having a workday for myself and others that need driveway space & tools at the house all day saturday if anybody is interested. I still have a ton of frozen slovacek's sausage left over from an event a couple weeks ago and would be glad to share. I'll post up in a separate thread tomorrow.

uglyota
11-07-2005, 03:47 PM
yeah chris go ahead and get that seal.

AggieTJ2007
11-07-2005, 04:48 PM
if you think it messup up the seat must smear the seal w/ RTV and stuff it in there.

Yeah I might come down on saturday, I want to further my Toyota axle knowledge

Shaggy
11-08-2005, 05:05 PM
what day you planning on doing this... i am gonna weld up the rear end of my f150 and need a dryer outlet or 220 of the like

8Runner
11-08-2005, 05:26 PM
what day you planning on doing this... i am gonna weld up the rear end of my f150 and need a dryer outlet or 220 of the like

If you want to do it saturday, I have 220 in the garage, though I don't know if it works. I do have 220 inside at the dryer that is by the garage, though we would need an extension cord (I have the parts & cable to make one or get that garage jack working w/ some help - Krebs?)

Shaggy
11-08-2005, 05:36 PM
i have a long cable but i dont think i can make it that day... i work till 2:30 and then the rents are gonna be in town and i am dunking my ring

AggieTJ2007
11-08-2005, 05:56 PM
What? You are welding the rear of the 150?

Sharpe
11-08-2005, 06:51 PM
I have 220 in the garage, though I don't know if it works.Here's the easiest way to find out :flipoff2:

uglyota
11-08-2005, 06:53 PM
http://www.thevestibules.com/coathanger.gif
:laughing:

RCcola55
11-08-2005, 07:02 PM
ill be here this weekend and i have a long ass extension cord for the welder

Doug Krebs
11-08-2005, 07:09 PM
make sure you're using the correct extension cord for the right welder. While a 220 mig may run on a 12 gauge extension cord fine, a cracker box won't be happy on it.

uglyota
11-08-2005, 07:21 PM
but maybe if we ran two or three 12-ga cords in parallel...
:haha:

Shaggy
11-08-2005, 07:42 PM
What? You are welding the rear of the 150?


maby... i figured it is 2wd gotta make up for that with atleast a free locker... and if i get tired of it i can just throw a set of fresh spider gears and be done with it

JeepPhisherman
11-08-2005, 08:10 PM
maby... i figured it is 2wd gotta make up for that with atleast a free locker... and if i get tired of it i can just throw a set of fresh spider gears and be done with it

didnt you say something to the tune of "f that" in more or less words when that was suggested on sunday?

agjohn02
11-08-2005, 08:12 PM
maby... i figured it is 2wd gotta make up for that with atleast a free locker... and if i get tired of it i can just throw a set of fresh spider gears and be done with it


you're only going to weld the spiders? how do you get those out when you wanna "throw a set" in?

AggieTJ2007
11-08-2005, 08:19 PM
grinder...

Shaggy
11-08-2005, 08:46 PM
well i will probably weld to the carrier too... you can pick up a new one on ebay pretty cheap... i could get a limited slip one off ebay now but i would rather just weld it and do that later if i get tired of full lock

Shaggy
11-08-2005, 08:47 PM
didnt you say something to the tune of "f that" in more or less words when that was suggested on sunday?


ya but i also priced a few lockers and then decided f-it im welding it

Shaggy
11-08-2005, 08:47 PM
now just to figure out something about ground clearance... not really... im not one of those guys that lifts a 2wd... or am i... dont know yet

Doug Krebs
11-08-2005, 09:02 PM
well i will probably weld to the carrier too... you can pick up a new one on ebay pretty cheap... i could get a limited slip one off ebay now but i would rather just weld it and do that later if i get tired of full lock

tate, plain and simple, don't weld it. I can't imagine a daily driver with a welded carrier. I remember when we welded up hensels rear and he pulled out of the drive way. The slightest turn and it started barking.

Stop procrastinating and finish the bronco!

agjohn02
11-08-2005, 09:08 PM
you're crazy if you weld a newish DD

Shaggy
11-08-2005, 09:17 PM
maby i will cough up the 50$ and get the limited slip... i would probably save that in tire wear alone... it will have to wait till next month then... ill just have to hit everything with a little momentum right eric

AggieTJ2007
11-08-2005, 10:08 PM
definetly go w/ the limited

uglyota
11-08-2005, 11:29 PM
hit it wit some speed!
you could replace your shocks with air-helper shocks for selectively getting a little more clearance

JeepPhisherman
11-08-2005, 11:37 PM
maby i will cough up the 50$ and get the limited slip... i would probably save that in tire wear alone... it will have to wait till next month then... ill just have to hit everything with a little momentum right eric

ill whore myself out to sit in the back of your truck for added traction as well

CRaSHnBuRN
11-17-2005, 01:48 PM
For those who have gone before, how much wheeling is actually done? I need to figure out how many propane tanks I'll need. I average a tank a day, but that drops if I do alot of crawling. Looking at how long we'll be up there, I would guess three tanks would be enough, but just barely. Can you night wheel there, and does anyone ever do it if so (or is it to freakin cold)?

CRaSHnBuRN
11-17-2005, 01:55 PM
BTW, do you'll think it may be a good idea to rig up some kinda snorkel?

Sharpe
11-17-2005, 01:56 PM
BTW, do you'll think it may be a good idea to rig up some kinda snorkel?
Always :gigem:

Doug Krebs
11-17-2005, 01:59 PM
For those who have gone before, how much wheeling is actually done? I need to figure out how many propane tanks I'll need. I average a tank a day, but that drops if I do alot of crawling. Looking at how long we'll be up there, I would guess three tanks would be enough, but just barely. Can you night wheel there, and does anyone ever do it if so (or is it to freakin cold)?

night wheeling is definately a must... last year we did three stage... hopefully scott's patrol won't light wires on fire this year :flipoff2:

P.S. Hopefully my pile doesn't do the same!

J Cooper
11-17-2005, 02:07 PM
For those who have gone before, how much wheeling is actually done? I need to figure out how many propane tanks I'll need. I average a tank a day, but that drops if I do alot of crawling. Looking at how long we'll be up there, I would guess three tanks would be enough, but just barely. Can you night wheel there, and does anyone ever do it if so (or is it to freakin cold)?

id say there is alot of wheeling done, we get up (sober up pretty early ~8-9) and hit the trails and your pretty much gone all day... i think that first friday last year it was dark by the time we got back. and then again night wheeling... some times its an hour... unless your doing snakepit after a SWFWDA meeting and your drunk and leave at 10 and roll back up to the campsite about 4:30. and yes it gets cold, ice and frost pretty much cover the vehicles when they are sitting there at night.... just bring alot of jack and you wont even feel it though :flipoff2:

CRaSHnBuRN
11-17-2005, 02:13 PM
hmm, maybe I should see if I can rent a 10 gallon tank or two, or at least grab four 8 gallon tanks. They wouldn't have a place there that you could refill propane tanks, would they?

Doug Krebs
11-17-2005, 03:57 PM
hmm, maybe I should see if I can rent a 10 gallon tank or two, or at least grab four 8 gallon tanks. They wouldn't have a place there that you could refill propane tanks, would they?

what kind of tanks do you need?

CRaSHnBuRN
11-18-2005, 12:39 AM
forklift propane tanks. I have an account with brazos welding supply, so I'm gonna see if they can get me some 10 gallon tanks versus the 8 gallon tanks I normally run.

redcagepatrol
11-18-2005, 01:31 AM
night wheeling is definately a must... last year we did three stage... hopefully scott's patrol won't light wires on fire this year :flipoff2:

P.S. Hopefully my pile doesn't do the same!
It's in much better shape than before - ready to go, wire wise...

CheapJeep
11-18-2005, 02:01 AM
Well I'm sitting at my house back home, I came down to take care of the horses while everyone's out of town. I'm making a last push this weekend to finish up the heap before it's sent off for the cage and steering. Hopefully I'll get everything buttoned up and take it for a drive this weekend.

Matt Conlee
11-18-2005, 09:19 AM
night wheeling is definately a must... last year we did three stage... hopefully scott's patrol won't light wires on fire this year :flipoff2:

P.S. Hopefully my pile doesn't do the same!

I agree that night wheeling is awesome but lets not get the bright idea to run snake pit at midnight.

Shaggy
11-18-2005, 05:30 PM
there will be plenty of nightwheeling... i would expect to burn a lot more propane than normal there... we pretty much wheel the whole time. but on a side note i think there is a place to refill there

CRaSHnBuRN
11-19-2005, 12:31 AM
good, I was kinda worried, not about the number of tanks, but simply where to put them on the way up there. I'm hoping I can fit them on the trailer under the buggy and strap them down there

Shaggy
11-19-2005, 04:02 PM
i have the whole bed of my truck... i am gonna bring the torch and maby a couple other tools but the bed is gonna be plenty empty

CRaSHnBuRN
11-19-2005, 07:14 PM
speaking of torches and tools, is anyone bringing a welder with them? I'm considering taking mine since it would be nice to have in case of an emergency. Its a Hobart 140 mig, so it can run off of 110 power, which means we could probably run it about anywhere we need to

8Runner
11-20-2005, 04:51 PM
I got my radiator pulled today and clearanced some of the metal that was hitting it. I need to pick up some more foam tape to isolate it, but other than that it is ready to stick back in.

Unfortunately, I also realized in the process that my motor has slid even more than I thought on the mounts and will have to be moved back before clayton. So add one more thing to do to my list.

CheapJeep
11-20-2005, 05:15 PM
speaking of torches and tools, is anyone bringing a welder with them? I'm considering taking mine since it would be nice to have in case of an emergency. Its a Hobart 140 mig, so it can run off of 110 power, which means we could probably run it about anywhere we need to
I'll be bringing my portable arc just in case, I don't think I'll be lugging my mig around though. :gigem:

CRaSHnBuRN
11-27-2005, 10:23 PM
So its down to crunch time. Did anyone accomplish anything over the weekend? How much crap does everyone have left?

I built some new spring packs to replace my sagging front springs, and swapped them in. I also redesigned my u-bolt plates in the front. I basicallly incorporated a new set of bumpstops and lower shock mounts into them. This will hopefully give me a better ride, as well as allow me to use close to all the travel on my shocks. Other than that I washed the *****, checked my fluids, packed my tools, and I'm ready to go. :flipoff2:

The only other things that I may attempt to get done before clayton is to have a new high pressure line built for my power steering, and rig up some kinda snorkel

redcagepatrol
11-27-2005, 10:28 PM
still waiting on some Birfields for me

Sharpe
11-27-2005, 11:16 PM
I still need to get pigpen in the driveway and the motor taken care of. Other than that most of the little stuff is either done or 90% there.

CheapJeep
11-28-2005, 01:31 AM
Jeep's off for chromolly cage, power steering, and more. Should have it back within a week or two...speaking of which, we only have 3 weeks and 2 weekends left til the trip...Oh ****. I still need to bleed the brakes, cinch down the brake lines, and adjust the carb. :eek:

8Runner
11-28-2005, 01:49 AM
Well, I didn't find anybody that had the time to help me with the welding needed this weekend, so putting the radiator back in has to wait. Brandon is going to give me a hand one evening this week if we can get the plug to fit my round 3 prong 220 outlet.

Also, I think Eric dropped off my driveshaft to get shortened, but I can't remember where and he is off in BFE, so I will have to wait until he gets back in cell range to check. Hopefully, the smaller tube diameter will negate the need to grind down my crossmember & gas tank skidplate.

Here is my list of remaining stuff:

Weld strap & put radiator back in (see thread (http://tamor.org/forums/showthread.php?t=6781) )
Put in driveshaft (hopefully after shortened & retubed)
Lower rear end (this should be quick if I can get it running in time to take it up to a friends shop & use his lift)
Finish installing rocklights
Redo Motormounts (see thread (http://tamor.org/forums/showthread.php?p=87022#post87022) )

Doug Krebs
11-28-2005, 02:15 AM
little behind schedule...

Have a project due on thurs, after that I should be full steam ahead.

Tommorow - finish steering arms, order leaf spring sliders.

Thurs - drive to beaumont to pick up tires
- visit property to pick up Dana 60 ubolts I forgot

Friday - paint leaf springs and remaining D60 parts
- fix 14 bolt caliper
- start front end removal

Saturday/Sunday

- remove spring hangers and reposition
- weld carrier
- replace sector shaft and pitman arm
- assemble leaf packs
- make new shackles
- hang springs and D60
- assemble rest of d60

Tuesday - buy pipe for draglink/tierod
- tap pipe
- install above
- start messing with hydro assist


Following weekend - Hopefully wheel it at 47

stx4wheeler
11-28-2005, 11:38 AM
alright after getting to drive and wheel my pile all weekend long here is a list of the must do's, and things i want to do

must do:
get hydro ram fixed-if not clayton is a no go since, i wheeled it all weekend without assist and it blew donkey balls and i am still sore.

beef up tie-rod, and steering stops so i dont fubar the ram again
fix front right brake bleeder
fix rear right shock mount
put some silicone on corner of windsheild from where i fubard it this weekend
Unload all parts that are not needed and pick up a another spare u joint for rear driveshaft since i am not gonna get the anti wrap built
Build new trac bar mount cause the mofo came loose again

want/need to do but prolly wont have time

replace u joint in the 44 shafts
put in zero rate blocks for rear
install rock lights
build anti wrap bar
have one of my 38 spares moved from a 8 back to a 5 lug rim
Install cd player- might be going in tow rig instead of bronco now

hoefully my truck will be up here this weekend so i can get to work asap on this crap.......

Doug Krebs
11-30-2005, 12:43 AM
Steering arms and sliders ordered...

BMFScout
11-30-2005, 09:56 AM
I need to check the air in my tires, and some other stuff...

redcagepatrol
11-30-2005, 10:33 AM
I need to check the air in my tires, and some other stuff...
don't forget to check you headlight fluid... Also, you might want to change the air in your tires instead of just checking it :flipoff2:

jerryg79
11-30-2005, 10:47 AM
I need to check the air in my tires, and some other stuff...

that reminds me...in that picture of your bronco, mike, it had a flat, just passing that on

StevenAg03
11-30-2005, 10:58 AM
Steering arms and sliders ordered...


i thought you were making your high steer arms?

Doug Krebs
11-30-2005, 11:07 AM
i thought you were making your high steer arms?

let me rephrase, steering arms finished, sliders ordered from alcoa

stx4wheeler
11-30-2005, 11:27 AM
my truck will be here friday sometime in the mid day work and drunkenness will ensue after i get done with my two tests that day, and btw damn west texas offroad cant get my, ram fixed, or send me a new one before calyton.

so matt at wto told me to just weld the heim to my ram, he suggested grindin it flat and weldingthe heim with the broken stud t the ram with a first pass of 6011, then he said maybe another of 7018. with the ram fully extended, and dont get it to hot.

what i am thinkin tell me if you all think this is a good idea or not, i was thinking of grinding the ram base flat, removing the broken stud from my heim, then either taking a piece of all thread, like already used, or a bolt of the same thread and diameter and welding that to the ram.

i think the bolt would be better since it would provide more surface area for the weld, what do you all think. will hopefully be done with it this weekend so i can go test the ram at 47 or somewhere to make sure it is gonna hold.

Doug Krebs
11-30-2005, 11:36 AM
what is broken on the ram?

Shaggy
11-30-2005, 11:54 AM
you might could borrow my ram from wto

stx4wheeler
11-30-2005, 12:27 PM
the solid stud at the axle mounted end of the ram,

tate that would be great i could just take yours with me and if my welds break i could jsut swap in yours.

Doug Krebs
11-30-2005, 02:00 PM
the solid stud at the axle mounted end of the ram,

tate that would be great i could just take yours with me and if my welds break i could jsut swap in yours.

um, yes... pic?

Shaggy
11-30-2005, 02:03 PM
that works for me

agjohn02
11-30-2005, 02:07 PM
let me rephrase, steering arms finished, sliders ordered from alcoa


aluminum sliders?

stx4wheeler
11-30-2005, 03:47 PM
http://tamor.us/members-rigs/tcc-3/1st_pics_358

like this dougie

chevsu
11-30-2005, 04:39 PM
i heard it was going to snow next week in clayton.......

Doug Krebs
11-30-2005, 04:40 PM
aluminum sliders?

****, sorry i meant alcan...

the little plastic/teflon sliders inbetween leafpacks

Doug Krebs
11-30-2005, 04:41 PM
http://tamor.us/members-rigs/tcc-3/1st_pics_358

like this dougie

so can you drill out the broken stud in the ram? or is the ram not threaded and i'm missing something

Fredo
11-30-2005, 05:03 PM
i heard it was going to snow next week in clayton.......

Kickass! Good times indeed!

CRaSHnBuRN
11-30-2005, 05:30 PM
i heard it was going to snow next week in clayton.......

fawk. Maybe I should try to rig up some kinda roof and hood before the trip. Has it ever actually snowed during a trip up there?

StevenAg03
11-30-2005, 05:45 PM
I Dont Know But You Can Definatly Count On It Raining Cats And Dogs For Sure...

stx4wheeler
11-30-2005, 06:27 PM
doug it is jsut butt welded to the cylinder, he has a new style thatt threads in and also is welded on that i am gonna upgrade to after clayton.

Fredo
11-30-2005, 06:53 PM
I Dont Know But You Can Definatly Count On It Raining Cats And Dogs For Sure...

Steve, when was the last time you were in clayton?

eight
11-30-2005, 07:42 PM
doug it is jsut butt welded to the cylinder, he has a new style thatt threads in and also is welded on that i am gonna upgrade to after clayton.

Dam that's some cheap ****. Can't even thread the end of a rod.

You can weld the eye on. But 6011 is not what to use. Or maybe with as cheaply built as his cylinders are they have 1018 shafts or such and it'll work. At least use 7018. And protect the rod from weld spatter that will eat seals.

stx4wheeler
11-30-2005, 08:15 PM
im not welding the rod(the part that moves in and out) kopecki, it is the stud on the back of the ram.

eight
11-30-2005, 08:47 PM
Oh. Well then weld.

StevenAg03
11-30-2005, 11:26 PM
Steve, when was the last time you were in clayton?


ummm...good question...i dont know, but the three or four times ive been there it has been nice outside..then all of a sudden it will start pouring and then nice again.


why do you ask?

AggieTJ2007
12-01-2005, 12:58 AM
I would bevel the end all of the way around to get deep penetration and then weld w/ a 7018 or higher

BMFScout
12-01-2005, 11:37 AM
I Dont Know But You Can Definatly Count On It Raining Cats And Dogs For Sure...

are you going to write a short story about it? turn caps lock off
lww K :flipoff2:

BMFScout
12-01-2005, 11:39 AM
fawk. Maybe I should try to rig up some kinda roof and hood before the trip. Has it ever actually snowed during a trip up there?

small tarp?

StevenAg03
12-01-2005, 11:57 AM
are you going to write a short story about it? turn caps lock off
lww K :flipoff2:


HUHHUH...i wuz thinkun of writin one...HUHHUH


i forget sometimes that my CAPSLOCK is on. all the work i do here requires caps lock...

CRaSHnBuRN
12-01-2005, 02:02 PM
small tarp?

I was actually thinking this may be the answer. I was gonna hit the board first, then head over to the harbor frieght site and see what they had that might work.

mudtoy67
12-01-2005, 03:02 PM
I was actually thinking this may be the answer. I was gonna hit the board first, then head over to the harbor frieght site and see what they had that might work.

Your hood line is pretty unobstructed except for the crossover for the shock towers, why not pick up some sheet steel or aluminum and make one. Just cut a slot for the crossover, weld some tabs for hood pins or Dzus on the cage, and voila! :D

CRaSHnBuRN
12-01-2005, 04:19 PM
actually, when I put in the crossover bar, I made it removable so it would be easier to install a hood and work on the engine, so I can get it out of the way. The biggest 2 problems are the stainless steel lines that stick up for the propane system, and that ugly ass master cylinder I have. Both will require somewhat wierd cuts to make a hood fit. I actually went out there and measure everuthing when I got home a few minutes ago, and I'm thinking of just getting someone to cut me a few pieces of steel sheet to match. The roof should be relatively easy, the hood is gonna take some work. What thickness would every suggest for this? I want to keep it as light as possible, but it needs to be thick enough that it doesn't flex or bow (it has to cover around a 2 foot span unsupported). I hope I can find the time to get this done next week

CRaSHnBuRN
12-01-2005, 04:22 PM
oh yeah, who here in town will cut the metal to match what I need? I've heard custom fabricators is good, but kinda expensive. Mack bolt and steel will only sell me a full sheet (which I don't want to mess with since time is short) and bryan iron and metal only has 1/8 sheet

uglyota
12-01-2005, 04:25 PM
How big is our adopt-a-highway sign out on 6?
:D

BMFScout
12-01-2005, 04:35 PM
I would say thicker aluminium would be pimp, that or get someone to roll some beads in thinner steel. Then it will support itself.

CRaSHnBuRN
12-01-2005, 04:38 PM
I would like aluminum as well for the wieght saving, but I know it'll cost a lot more. As for rolling beads, definetely not enough time and money.

BMFScout
12-01-2005, 04:54 PM
how about rolling papers? wtf?!

mudtoy67
12-01-2005, 05:10 PM
If you have to get the whole sheet I bet you could take it over to Eaker Performance and have Jonothan cut it with the plasma cutter. I don't think he would charge that much to do it if he has the time.

8Runner
12-01-2005, 07:13 PM
If you have to get the whole sheet I bet you could take it over to Eaker Performance and have Jonothan cut it with the plasma cutter. I don't think he would charge that much to do it if he has the time.

Lance @ CAC has a plasma too.

J Cooper
12-01-2005, 08:10 PM
me too

Doug Krebs
12-01-2005, 11:35 PM
me too

Jesus three!

Well due to getting a late start today and pulling an all nighter, I didn't get to beaumont today. I didn't think it was a good idea to leave a 6:30 after no sleep. So, behind schedule once again.

Anyone want to take a ride to beaumont this weekend? You can see the kings castle in person!

Shaggy
12-02-2005, 11:54 AM
i could maby go one day after 1

BMFScout
12-02-2005, 12:10 PM
Hello? 1982 called, they want their sign back...

Shaggy
12-11-2005, 11:35 AM
Need to get my truck inspected... who is the cheapest in town... quicker sticker?

stx4wheeler
12-11-2005, 11:42 AM
inspections are the same price everywhere you go i believe.

jerryg79
12-11-2005, 12:52 PM
Need to get my truck inspected... who is the cheapest in town... quicker sticker?

its state mandated price

Shaggy
12-11-2005, 05:40 PM
okie dokie... you think he is open today

redcagepatrol
12-11-2005, 07:43 PM
Have we contacted Mike Green and "Frielands" to make sure we can get on those properties this weekend? I am not sure if they have added a gate to Mikes place yet, but they might have. Frielands already has a gate with a lock on it...

8Runner
12-12-2005, 02:38 AM
Got the crossmember all done tonight, but ran into a snag while getting ready to put in on the trailer - the steering hits the header now that the engine is lower. We are going to cut out some of the unnecessary crap (like bushings) tomorrow night and see if we can make it work.

Jackasic
12-12-2005, 02:57 AM
tramslation: found more booty fab to cut off the rig. Should be good to go tomorrow.

CRaSHnBuRN
12-12-2005, 03:23 AM
I am confused, how will cutting out bushings help the clearence problem between the steering and the header? Or when you say steering, are you talking about the shaft going between the steering box and the steering wheel?

8Runner
12-12-2005, 12:04 PM
I circled it from my earlier motor mount pic. This flange sandwiches a bushing that reduced road vibration (essentially vestigial in my swamper clad rig). It also has some nuts in there as bootyfab washers from a body lift at some point (WOW). You can't really tell from this pic, but the outer edges of this flange & the bolts hit the header every time I turn the wheel. In fact, I can't even turn the wheel more than a quarter turn. The plan, as I understand it, is to remove the bushing & nut and bolt them directly together. Then fill the gap by resheathing the tube. Hopefully this is the only conflict we missed when we lowered & moved back the motor...

uglyota
12-12-2005, 12:22 PM
rag joint hits the header since we lowered the motor. Remove rag joint, extend steering shaft and we're set.

JeepPhisherman
12-12-2005, 12:26 PM
dont you need the rag joint to help with binding issues?


oh and chris, cut it out with the big words
i think you just made up vestigial

uglyota
12-12-2005, 12:30 PM
no it's a word. Those 2 things hanging below your pecker--vestigial :flipoff2:
rag joint just absorbs vibes. There's a ujoint to deal with binding

mudtoy67
12-12-2005, 12:50 PM
dont you need the rag joint to help with binding issues?

Like eric said he has a u-joint just in front of it. But in some cases you're right.

8Runner
12-13-2005, 02:34 AM
Ok, made some more progress tonight. The ragjoint has been removed and the header beat in enough that it doesn't hit anymore. I also pulled the PS pump & lines so that I can get them replicated tomorrow. Here is my list:


Reinstall Rear driveshaft (need to get some bolts)
Have PS pump installed (Andy's Auto)
Pull AC (Andy's Auto)
Install Rock Lights
Flex and see if there is any skid plate interference
Tap & install remaining bolts into crossmember
Test/Replace Redtop Battery
Clean up and repair wiring
Clearance & reinstall center console

I will be doing all this Tuesday & Weds night and could definitely use another pair of hands. I plan to do this at Lance's shop so we'll have real tools and materials to work with. PM or call if you can help.

CRaSHnBuRN
12-13-2005, 02:50 AM
what kind of bolts do you need for the driveshaft? Not the toyota ones?

8Runner
12-13-2005, 11:02 AM
Toy on the pinion side, Chevy (NP205) on the other. Anybody know the sizes so I can just go pick them up?

JeepPhisherman
12-13-2005, 12:00 PM
no it's a word. Those 2 things hanging below your pecker--vestigial :flipoff2:

Still dont know what that means, so I'm not sure whether you're comming onto me or trying to insult me

uglyota
12-13-2005, 12:04 PM
chris don't forget to replace that cable on the back of the alternator

8Runner
12-14-2005, 01:55 AM
Made a little more progress tonight - definitely not as much as I hoped. Tomorrow night is going to be LONG.

Reinstall Rear driveshaft - DONE
Tap & install remaining bolts into crossmember - DONE
Test/Replace Redtop Battery - DONE
Clearance & reinstall center console - Clearance done, but need to reassemble
Have PS pump installed (Andy's Auto - I got the pump
& the hose made today)
Pull AC (Andy's Auto)
Install Rock Lights
Zip-Tie up various cables & wires
Flex and see if there is any skid plate interference
Pull, Paint, and reinstall crossmember
Clean up and repair wiring - (This job is getting bigger, I screwed up a bunch of crap in the console, and found more wires under the hood that need replacing)

I badly need some help from ~6pm on Thursday night. I'll have the keys to Lance's shop and I'm staying till it's done...

8Runner
12-15-2005, 01:58 AM
Finished all but some wiring cleanup that Lance is doing for me tomorrow. I am amazed but everything seems to be working! See you in Clayton.