The Sanchez

[Sharpe]

Cook rolled up to my house today with a 35 on one side and a dryrotted 31 on the other cause he couldnt get the rear end jacked up high enough to put the 35 back on in his pebble driveway. :laughing:

[CheapJeep]

De De De... :flipoff2:

[agjohn02]

You should have front wheel low with the detents in. You have to have the rear in neutral or low before shifting the front into low. And I don't think many people remove them anymore. I didn't in mine or Kurt's. All you gain by removing them is front wheel high.


hmm, never tried it. as soon as i realized i left the detents in i automatically ruled it out.

[TMatheaus]

Cook rolled up to my house today with a 35 on one side and a dryrotted 31 on the other cause he couldnt get the rear end jacked up high enough to put the 35 back on in his pebble driveway. :laughing:
it wasn't a 31 he had on it was a 29

[sasquatch]

got both mounts replaced, clutch linkage aligned and put back together

[stx4wheeler]

i dont think it is motor mounts causing the problem. Also when you do the shackle reversal and flip it sets the caster at the right angle, so no shims are neccessary. Check the driveshaft, and pinion very good for any distortions or egged out areas. this sounds more like the problem than, motor mounts.

[Sharpe]

Well when your truck is sitting the pinion is pointing up, above the centerline of the driveshaft. Its not severe but I have always heard that with just u-joints (as in no CV) you want the t-case output yoke and the pinion yoke parallel to each other, in which case you need to rotate your pinion way down. I always thought this was more of a vibration issue than u-joint life though.

[Reckless]

sounds like bent leaf springs to me, Eric has had that problem

[Sharpe]

The leafs arent the problem, the shackle flip just rotated the pinion too far up.

[Reckless]

well damn, I guess he need some shims

[eight]

Get yourself some help with that transmission and t-case stuff. Sum*****es is heavy.

[Reckless]

If ya can get a hold of a engine lift, put a chain around the transmission, and lift the transmission through the shifter hole if it has enough room, thats what i did in my jeep.

[Sharpe]

Get asshat to help you with the tranny, if it starts to fall over he'll catch it with his head! I think you poopoo'd the idea already but my hoist is still available.

[AggieTJ2007]

hey what is asshat doing with his heep. oh and steel those tires from asshat he doesn't need them

[CheapJeep]

Um yeah, thanks again for dropping your trans on my skull.... I could probably lend a hand sometime this weekend with your swap. Oh and my tires are the basis for my current and upcoming build progress...so :flipoff2:

[sasquatch]

anyone ever use BVD for getting a new drivesahft made?

[robertf03]

not new, but i've had them lengthen one

they painted it blue

[CheapJeep]

You could take them your old shaft and just have them shorten/lengthen/retube it, save some money that way. There's also a place right off of South College near Chicken Oil, they're pretty nice.

[sasquatch]

im changing the yokes from 1310 to 1330, so i might as well get a new one made

[agjohn02]

anyone ever use BVD for getting a new drivesahft made?


i had them put a new cv on mine and felt screwed when they finished. i didnt like the u-joints they put in there and they told me the ones on there were toasted, which i know wasnt true. also, the inner ball joint thing on the new cv does not have a grease zerk. i would get one from longview driveshaft and have it shipped. they built my first rear shaft and i really liked it. that was before they were really into the offroad industry. now they do shafts for Bluetorch (they're the best, just ask robbie) and Bent and Twisted Fab in Kansas.

[JB]

they shortened my rear shaft after the 10.25 swap.. No complaints.

[RCcola55]

they shortened mine for cheap, decent people

[sasquatch]

what does that thin plate that goes between the bellhousing and block do? not sure if autos have it. i forgot to put it back in when stabbed the trans back in

[AggieTJ2007]

it keeps mud and **** out of the clutch

[sasquatch]

the only vent in the bellhousing is up on top and close to the block and its small, not much can get in it except air and probably dust

[Sharpe]

Wtf do vents have to do with a plate that covers the bottom half of the clutch? If yours is like Chevies then yah thats the only conceivable reason for it to be there.

[AggieTJ2007]

and jeeps

[sasquatch]

im not talking about the dustcover that covers the bottom half of the bellhousing. there is another plate that sandwitches between the bellhousing and block. it appears to have no obvious function

[robertf03]

your clutch might not work without it since it does space the transmission back 1/16" or so.

I think I've seen some manufacturers refer to it as a spacer.

I usually get the pressure plate bolted on before I realize I forgot to install it, but I've never ran an engine without it.

[stx4wheeler]

put it back on and avoid destruction of your new setup, it is proly there for a reason.

[RCcola55]

high angle made my rear for just under 400 and thats with 1350 cv and heavy tubing

[eight]

Go to a junk yard and find one that is too long, like one from a truck like yours of the long bed variety. Then have it cut down.

[73bronco]

all mine is are bars with threaded ends, one side attaches to the frame the other to the U-bolt plate. They do limit the articulation some but not enough to make me want to take them off and deal with axle wrap.

[sasquatch]

i like these. can't you build a small shackle at the frame mount to get rid of the binding on up/down travel. it would let the axle wrap a little but not bad.

[agjohn02]

i like these.


dont get eric started

[AggieTJ2007]

those will bend springs too because it puts the springs undercompression

[CheapJeep]

Just build a normal traction bar setup...I see that setup pictured causing problems.

[uglyota]

dont get eric started
:haha:
do a sam's offroad or whatever they call it style traction bar. Make me one too :D

[73bronco]

those will bend springs too because it puts the springs undercompression

thats BS, those are the same basic concept as mine and I've had no problem with springs bending

[sasquatch]

whats the ideal angle for the rear shackles?

[Sharpe]

Depends on the arch of your springs. Idealy, the shackle would be maxed out before the spring begins to invert to prevent the spring from getting damaged.

[agjohn02]

huh?

[sasquatch]

my springs don't have much arch. they are probably worn out

[RCcola55]

just look at my rears, they are the completely wrong, the fronts are about the right angle

[sasquatch]

here are some pic of the current progress

[sasquatch]

more. tried to get some pictures of the pinion and rear shackle angles.

[eight]

put a new coil on that thing. make it run much better more like fast yet smooth.

[mudtoy67]

The coolant recovery tank is awesome :gigem:

[sasquatch]

any have some good tech for 9 inch disk brake conversions?

[robertf03]

any have some good tech for 9 inch disk brake conversions?

if you turn down the axle flange you can fit a front rotor over it

On 80's ford 9's I'm pretty sure you can use 8.8 parts and redrill the rotor. Ford might even make a rotor since there was a ford motorsport kit for this. I believe this is what Sunray does and what I plan on doing for my rear axle.

[73bronco]

look for a lincoln with a rear 9in

[tigweld]

any have some good tech for 9 inch disk brake conversions?

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/xq/aspx/paging.yes/dept_id.11/display_id.2000/qx/Product.htm

I put on of these on my 68' worked pretty good, no e brake but the exploder and caddy e brake don't work that great anyway.

[sasquatch]

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/xq/aspx/paging.yes/dept_id.11/display_id.2000/qx/Product.htm

I put on of these on my 68' worked pretty good, no e brake but the exploder and caddy e brake don't work that great anyway.

wonder why the generic kit is cheaper than the one built for a 9 inch

hmm, i don't see any reason why i couldn't buy some new generic chevy calipers and rotors with the right bolt pattern, then make a caliper bracket that bolts on the tube end.

[eight]

Cadillac calipers worked good on Kurt's yj. John says z28 camaro calipers are the same type.

[Sharpe]

Hypothetically chevy stuff would work. 1/2 ton 2wd's and 4wd's used the same caliper so I'm sure the rotors are the same thickness, probably even diameter too. The only problem you might run into is the wheel mounting flange on the end of the 9" shaft, it might have some clearance issues with the inside of the rotor. But it might not, only one way to find out. They are both 5 on 5.5 right?

[agjohn02]

Cadillac calipers worked good on Kurt's yj. John says z28 camaro calipers are the same type.


no they are different

[robertf03]

I put on of these on my 68' worked pretty good, no e brake but the exploder and caddy e brake don't work that great anyway.

explorers seem to work pretty good on my brothers yj. They are the same as Jeep disc brake rear calipers. Seperate drum inside the disc, not like the caddys.

[sasquatch]

shiut

[CheapJeep]

The bumper looks good, you even added tow points and a license plate light. :gigem: Could've grinded the mount down a bit to make it look nicer but then again no one will see it and you're too cheap to waste any disks on that. Did you just move the hangers down and weld them, and for what purpose? I would still run some hardware through the hangers to help brace them, or make a gussett, etc... to keep it from trying to rip off.

[stx4wheeler]

Could've grinded the mount down a bit to make it look nicer but then again no one will see it and you're too cheap to waste any disks on that.

this from the guy with red spray pain on his seat covers because he didnt wanna tape stuff off , or take of the seat cover.

he moved the hangers to help out the pinion angle, and it will flex better. put bolts through, haha, dont need them. That reminds me i need to put bolts in mine as well.

[CheapJeep]

this from the guy with red spray pain on his seat covers because he didnt wanna tape stuff off , or take of the seat cover.
With a little bit of resolve the red overspray came right off...and that was because it's a pita to get to the seat mounts, but I did have the seats taped off, thanks. Not like you haven't had your own share of "enlightening experiences."

[sasquatch]

yea, i moved it forward and down to keep the same amount of lift and get a better shackle angle. the bumper is also going to be my air tank. its made out of 4x6x.25

[sasquatch]

replaced clutch
put in different transmission, trans mount, and tcase; put new seals in these
made adapter for transmission crossmember
shortened rear driveshaft
lengthened front driveshaft
replaced all u-joints in both driveshafts
installed electric fans, temp switch, and wiring
made overflow tank
replaced starter, solenoid and cables
replaced battery tray
replaced battery and cables
replaced valve cover seals
replaced coil
rewired distributor and coil harnesses
built bumper air tank and ran new hoses for oba
built sliders
moved rear hangers

stuff to finish before clayton:

front locker
build front 2" reciever
anti-wrap bar
new seats
tear down my spare axles so i have parts

[sasquatch]

anyone got any leads on a sterling with 3.55s thats in good shape??

[CheapJeep]

bwahahaha.... :flipoff2: That was some extreme wheelin'

[HULK-1]

Nothing like fawking up ur rear end while trying to run over an old CD player at the end of Dexter street, that was some funny stuff :flipoff2:

[eight]

How big was this CD player? Pics?

[Sharpe]

The CD player didnt do it, dumping the clutch did. I'm still curious about the black puff of smoke that came out though.

[RCcola55]

How big was this CD player? Pics?
96' ranger tape deck, no pics, just funny as ****

[AggieTJ2007]

yeah, I am sure there is one here in waco, I will look.

did 3/4 tons have the sterling?

[eight]

si

[AggieTJ2007]

ok, I am pretty sure I can find one cause if I remember correctly 3/4 tons are most likely to have a sterling

[eight]

Ah you will need my 8 lug 44 parts.

[stx4wheeler]

what part of the axle did you break/ if it was shafts, then by chromo shafts, one ton axles are to big and heavy, then you'll be dumb and wanna swap 60 **** down the road. i say just spend a little money on the nine inch.

also maybe you should correlate most breakage on your truck from doing things on the street not off-road.

[73bronco]

spend the $300 to upgrade to 35spline and get a full spool and you've pretty much got a one-ton setup with more ground clearance and less weight

[73bronco]

if you broke the carrier then you might as well step up to a full locker or spool. While your at it upgrade the shafts

[sasquatch]

i put the traclock in my last spare 3rd. if it goes then i'll either build up a different 9 inch housing and all, or swap in a different axle.

[sasquatch]

antiwrap bar coming right up

[sasquatch]

...

[CRaSHnBuRN]

nice, but on a rear trac bar shouldn't the shackle be pointing up (with the hiem end of the bar on the top side) for it to work the best?

[stx4wheeler]

yes i believe so, but he didnt want to make a new cross member, so he did it that way.

[sasquatch]

i don't see why it makes a difference

[TxCruzr]

Mine mounts the same way. If you flip it over, your either going to increase the angle or have to make a longer bar to keep it from being steep. Its just like any other link suspension where you want it to be as parallel as possible, usually running parallel to your dshaft.

[agjohn02]

i don't see why it makes a difference

with the shackle that direction, if you are flexed out and apply torque to it, there is the possibility of inverting the shackle. this would result in the springs remaining ess shaped with no throttle applied.

parallel to the d-shaft means squat. the d-shaft does not dictate axle movement in any way, if it does, something is wrong. you are more concerned about instant center and keeping the anti-wrap/ladder bar in line with it.

[TxCruzr]

parallel to the d-shaft means squat. the d-shaft does not dictate axle movement in any way, if it does, something is wrong. you are more concerned about instant center and keeping the anti-wrap/ladder bar in line with it.

The wrap bar transmits torque. If you have some short bar that is setup steep, that would be like running a 4 link with the same type of links. That was my point...therefore it does mean squat. It also protects the dshaft like that. Being parallel to the dshaft is just a rule of thumb way of looking at it.

I run the same shackle on mine and unless he is getting 6 feet of travel, that won't be a problem. The shackle may move a inch or two at most. Never gets near horizontal and it has been in a bind plenty of times.

[uglyota]

the only problem with it being that way is that your shackle is under compression, which is not the way that particular shackle was designed. I would make a new shackle for it at the very least, and brace the sides of the axle-end brackets (right david?) And if you have a choice the antiwrap bar should go on the passenger side to counteract driveline torque, and a short steep traction bar will make your suspension unload (antisquat) because your axle's torque is fighting the chassis. Longer and flatter is best because it gives your chassis more leverage against the axlewrap.

And that's all I know about antiwrap bars
and no, 3 kinked-ass sets of rear leaf springs later I still haven't made one

[sasquatch]

eh, if it breaks i'll make a new one thats different

[TxCruzr]

Mine is going on 4+ years, yours should last.

[eight]

the only problem with it being that way is that your shackle is under compression, which is not the way that particular shackle was designed. I would make a new shackle for it at the very least, and brace the sides of the axle-end brackets (right david?)

Well it seems to go with the theme here, because the shackles in his rear suspension are wrong as well.

[Reckless]

It cancelles itself out then, if the leaf spring shackels are wrong and the other shackle is wrong, then it should work.

[sasquatch]

got bucket seats, console, and new alternator in

[colman]

are those the buckets that i gave you? just wondering

[sasquatch]

yea

[colman]

look good glad they found a good home, now to get rid of the shady leather seats from the waggy i just brought home

[sasquatch]

got spare 9" carrier welded

[JeepPhisherman]

Don't feel so bad about my welds when I see that...

[sasquatch]

i was pretty drunk when i welded that. had plenty of welding fluid. aka lonestar

[JeepPhisherman]

so your pretty drunk welds = my completely sober welds... i'll take that

[JeepPhisherman]

Oh no, the only thing my welds compare to is squirrel diarrhea, still getting the hang of mig welding and i'm sure you could teach me a thing or two

[sasquatch]

nice comparison

[uglyota]

welding fluid. aka lonestar
:laughing:

Garrett that's a lot of sh!t to talk for someone who can't figure out how to work a mig welder

[JeepPhisherman]

:laughing:

Garrett that's a lot of sh!t to talk for someone who can't figure out how to work a mig welder

Hey mother****er, it was the damn wiring for the house I couldnt figure out. The welder, now I can make that work, but just barely.
:flipoff2:

[AggieTJ2007]

you know there is a chart on the inside of the lid that shows you how set it up

[JeepPhisherman]

you know there is a chart on the inside of the lid that shows you how set it up

***, there is?!?!? :flipoff2:

Yea, it's more of a technique thing. I'll post some pictures here this week and we can diagnose my welding problems and let Cook have his thread back

[uglyota]

One knob gives you more or less wire, the other gives you more or less heat, the trigger makes it go. Plug it in, lower your helmet, and burn wire. Repeat until you don't suck.

[stx4wheeler]

dont getto pissy with the welder talk yet he still hasnt been able to successfully make studs go into the ground for a bender :laughing: :flipoff2:

[JeepPhisherman]

dont getto pissy with the welder talk yet he still hasnt been able to successfully make studs go into the ground for a bender :laughing: :flipoff2:

**** em, I'm done with the *****. I figured out it was just too much torque on the sleeves. I welded on a piece of angle 13" long, and didn't even need to bolt it in and it made all the difference in the world. For permanent mounting, studs are deffinitely the way to go, not the bull**** sleeves like I used.

[sasquatch]

found this pleasent surprise the night before. replaced driver side 9" shaft.

[Fredo]

so you're ready to go? Kickass!

[CheapJeep]

Twisted the splines....too many burnouts on the street.

[uglyota]

Twisted the splines...
barely, swap them left to right and they'll straighten back out :D

[stx4wheeler]

35 spline shafts, and spool, no problems even with to many burnouts.

[CRaSHnBuRN]

Buy a D70, weld it, and call it good

[stx4wheeler]

to huge of an axle to run with only 35's.

[CRaSHnBuRN]

or keep dumping money into the 9 inch, then kill it again. Get a D70U, not much to hang up there

[jerryg79]

or keep dumping money into the 9 inch, then kill it again. Get a D70U, not much to hang up there

last i checked this was a half ton, so he would have to at least redneck it and get 8 lug wheels for the back and im guessing they would have to be 16's to fit over the drums so then he would need new tires too.

[RCcola55]

sterling... and if you keep the 44 just get the chevy 8-lug outers, if not rip all that gay slinky spring **** out and run a leaf srpung 60

[Sharpe]

I vote 35 spline 9" w/ FULL spool.

[CheapJeep]

I vote 35 spline 9" w/ FULL spool.
X2.

That would be a perfect setup for what you're running and if you ever decided to go with bigger tires you could always buy some chromo shafts for the front and rear which is still cheaper than going 1 ton.

[AggieTJ2007]

sounds like a waste of money to me

[Sharpe]

Safety first kids :gigem:

[AggieTJ2007]

looks real safe there, make sure to use a highlift next time too

[agjohn02]

that right there is proof that darwin was a dumb@$$. if he were right the genepool would be cleaner now.

[RCcola55]

dont act like you havent done something just as dumb...

[uglyota]

everybody knows that water gets rid of fumes...

[sasquatch]

the water was so that the rubber filler hose wouldn't catch on fire



that right there is proof that darwin was a dumb@$$. if he were right the genepool would be cleaner now.

if he was always right, you might be dead too

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Might????? :flipoff3:

[73bronco]

Hey cook why doesnt yours look like this- http://www.fordf2000.com/

[CheapJeep]

Hey cook why doesnt yours look like this- http://www.fordf2000.com/
Damn!!! That thing is badass!

[sasquatch]

they built all that and can't spell carburetor or axle. look in the detailed specs.

looks badass. its the 67-72 body style

[Sharpe]

It looks like it was spawned from a Jeep J10 and a camaro ****ing in the ass. I still like it though.

[stx4wheeler]

ive posted that before, possibly in this thread

edit i think i have magazine pic of it.

[CRaSHnBuRN]

are the fenders custom made, or can you buy them (for a decent price)?

[sasquatch]

heres what it looks like now. i still need to bend the bed rails out of 1.5 120 wall. also put a new core support and fender

[DRAGOONRANCH]

I think that clear rhino-lining looks cool, where did you get that from??? And why do the windows too, guess that is the new peemp style, huh? :flipoff3:

[HULK-1]

I love that pimp license plate mount :gigem:

[fbronco86]

I love that pimp license plate mount :gigem:

He must have copied that from krebs.

[jerryg79]

He must have copied that from krebs.

does krebs even have shackles on the back bumper?

[fbronco86]

does krebs even have shackles on the back bumper?

Nah just the sweet zip tie/coat hanger mount job.

[fbronco86]

i havent messed with it because of the weather.

i need ideas for a front bumper...

You might want to add a light for the plate on the rear bumper. Krebs got pulled over for that once. I was warned for it after I got busted for running a yellow light.

[CRaSHnBuRN]

gooseneck has some nice little LEDs that would work well for that

[sasquatch]

going to try to finish a few things before katemcy. i think i'm gonna paint the truck again with ford blue implement enamel. also probably need to cut the fenders so they're at least even with the bumper. otherwise they'll get ****ed up

[sasquatch]

...

[CheapJeep]

Looks good Cook. :gigem:

[TxCruzr]

Does the filler neck on the other side hang out unprotected or is it just the angle of the pic?

[sasquatch]

yea, it hangs outside, but its temporary. i have another that i will modify so its just a 90 degree bend and will come up inside of the rail. i'll make a plate that the end attaches to and welds to the tube.

[J Cooper]

looks good...

feels like just yesterday you were jerry riggin a cherokee in my driveway, kids grow up so fast :flipoff2:

[DRAGOONRANCH]

I am not much of a fan of the flatbeds like that, but yours looks killer.

[sasquatch]

didn't turn out exactly like i had planned, but it works perfectly with gas pumps. if it gets hit i'll make one that is inside of the diagonal rail support

[agjohn02]

looks good. put some tube around it like this and it should be fine.

[sasquatch]

looks good. put some tube around it like this and it should be fine.

good idea. i hadn't though of that. i need to measure the radius of the jd2 to see how a 180 bend would look.

[stx4wheeler]

also cook you could take a pice of like 3 or 4 inch diameter pipe, and cut it in half and weld that to the frame, and or tube,from the frame to the top or halfway up and it probably wouldnt look to bad since it is round

[Sharpe]

I could not get my JD2 to make a perfect 180 degree bend when I was making my tranny crossmember. It would only go to like 175 degrees and then there were no more notches on the bar. I know it doesnt make a difference in this case but just for future reference...

[DRAGOONRANCH]

I could not get my JD2 to make a perfect 180 degree bend when I was making my tranny crossmember. It would only go to like 175 degrees and then there were no more notches on the bar. I know it doesnt make a difference in this case but just for future reference...

I would think that a smaller degree bend (100-150???) bend would be just fine also, but I dont know what the radius of the die is so I don't know what it would look like

[sasquatch]

the bed is pretty much finished

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Looks peemp Cook, awesome work on the tailgate.

[jerryg79]

the bed is pretty much finished

That thing gets the Fergalicious Seal of Approval. :gigem:

[fbronco86]

I would have gone with a vintage ford oval but looks pretty cool.

[JeepPhisherman]

Looks good, now just tube out the cab...

[J Cooper]

i drove by last sat. the bed looks sweet

[JB]

i like it

[JB]

where are you going to put the spare? I think a spare, a hi lift, and some rock lights would finished it off.

[stx4wheeler]

show the driver side you pu-nana-jad, looks good man

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Hmm, pu-nana-jad, me likes this word, you mind if I use it.


x2 on the other side, we wanna see what you did to the fuel neck.

[sasquatch]

name? somebody suggested the dirty sanchez. others?

[TMatheaus]

papa smurf

[agjohn02]

i had a piece of scrap tube that i just welded on like john suggested.

i think the truck needs a name now. somebody suggested the dirty sanchez. any other ideas?


yeah, i saw it the other day at dexter. looks better than i pictured. me likes papa smurf... or the blue turd.

[Reckless]

papa smurf

[jerryg79]

brue barrs

[BMFScout]

think of Mr. Miagi trying to say "Blue Balls" looks good.

[sasquatch]

a 427 with three dueces would be bad ass

[Sharpe]

Just put a diesel in and be done with it.

[sasquatch]

then i wouldn't have **** for hp :flipoff2:

[sasquatch]

i snapped an axle shaft last night leaving the meeting. 9s suck

[DRAGOONRANCH]

oh snap!

[FJAggie07]

i snapped an axle shaft last night leaving the meeting. 9"s suck

Oh damn we were just talking about that last night too about how you wanted to do your axles before your motor...

Wait let me pull out the gay for you Cook, "And isn't it ironic... don't you think"


:flipoff2:

[CheapJeep]

Well that sucks... Roadtrip to Louisiana for that truck?

[BMFScout]

Wait let me pull out the gay for you Cook, "And isn't it ironic... don't you think"


:flipoff2:

it's like rain on your wedding day, it's the free ride, when you've already paid...

Ever notice that the stuff in that song really isn't that ironic, it's just stuff that sucks. Maybe it's ironic that the song sucks and so does she? That could be the real message there.

To keep it on topic an analogy:

Willie Nelson : Smoking Pot
Robert Cook : Breaking 9" axles

[colman]

maybe you shouldn't hotrod on the street, i heard it snap

[CRaSHnBuRN]

time for a 35 spline D70

[william_ace]

oh oh i have one

[CRaSHnBuRN]

better yet, give the sterling to cook, and the D70 to the guy I mentioned to you

[sasquatch]

heres pics of the **** that broke

[CheapJeep]

Nice! Getting to be an expert changing out the 9" are we?

Oh, and I looked back and saw your post about building your current motor instead of going with a 427. I like that idea, makes alot more sense like you said. Let me know if you need contact info for stroker/motor kits, boring and honing, etc.

[sasquatch]

can do it blindfolded. probably going to get one tons first, since my 360 is able to constantly break the axles i have.

[RCcola55]

we need to make a trip to traders village in GP to get your sticker made.

[sasquatch]

i'm not so sure we'll make it out of there once we ask for the sticker

[RCcola55]

its TRADERS VILLAGE.... you can get anything you can imagine there

[sasquatch]

yea i know. bump, tint, electric scooters, cell phone covers, body kits for your f-150, small mexican children, anything you want

[Reckless]

chiklets?

[RCcola55]

small mexican children, anything you want

i wish i still had the picture of the mexi nugget sitting in the kiddie pool, i offered the mother $10 for!

[DRAGOONRANCH]

We were offered a 6 pack of some mexican beer one time for a female fish buddy of mine. She stayed pissed for a while when we told the guy "OK". :D

[sasquatch]

more ****

[sasquatch]

replaced radiator today but also broke driver side carrier bearing... going to ditch the 9 before tcc

[73bronco]

what the hell are you doing to these 9in's? You shouldn't be having that many problems if you're setting them up right

[CRaSHnBuRN]

what the hell are you doing to these 9in's? You shouldn't be having that many problems if you're setting them up right

he is reusing the same housing each time, right? Could it be bent?

[stx4wheeler]

viva la sterling!!!!!!!!!

[tigweld]

if the pinion nut gets loose it crushes the crush sleeve to much while you are driving during deceleration. it's exageratted if you have a standard. if the pinion nut got loose you probably never crushed the sleeve in the first place it takes like 550lbs to start to crush it. get a pinion spacer if you don't allready. I really don't think I'd swap out the 9", get a decent third member setup and I think you would be far better off.

[fbronco86]

if the pinion nut gets loose it crushes the crush sleeve to much while you are driving during deceleration. it's exageratted if you have a standard. if the pinion nut got loose you probably never crushed the sleeve in the first place it takes like 550lbs to start to crush it. get a pinion spacer if you don't allready. I really don't think I'd swap out the 9", get a decent third member setup and I think you would be far better off.

Yeah the pinion spacer and the shims are the way to setup up a 9inch pinion. The crush sleeve is junk.

Edit I think I paid about 20 bucks for the one I had. I plan on putting one in my 76 bronco when I get around to that.

[HULK-1]

Every person ive known who runs a 9inch has always been pleased with it whether in a race car or an offroad rig, i guess lurch just doesnt have good luck with em. Cook if you can get that sterling for cheap i say just go ahead and swap it.

[agjohn02]

hot rod is putting one in their 1500hp camaro. im pretty sure they are adequate for this truck.

[fbronco86]

hot rod is putting one in their 1500hp camaro. im pretty sure they are adequate for this truck.

Its not the Hp that breaks stuff its the torque. It could be 1500hp and 1 ftlb and not break a shaft the size of a pencil.

Torque is the power of the engine. Hp is just how fast it can get there.

[BMFScout]

I bet the F-bomb's engine only makes 1 ft-lb, Mike you're a fag. :flipoff2:

[agjohn02]

Its not the Hp that breaks stuff its the torque. It could be 1500hp and 1 ftlb and not break a shaft the size of a pencil.

Torque is the power of the engine. Hp is just how fast it can get there.


this is true. however, said engine woudn't make its power until 7,878,000 RPM. so, in fact, mike is a fag.

[sasquatch]

ryans bike hauls ass, and has no brakes.

[Reckless]

and robbie loves wheelies!

[JeepPhisherman]

mmm 3 ways... what?

i picked it up this afternoon. got it bolted under the truck so the city doesn't get on anybodys nuts.

p.s. ryans bike hauls ass, and has no brakes.


Did he get it running? Got a top speed yet?

[sasquatch]

too fast for that ****ty of a bike

[william_ace]

gonna have to shorten the driveshaft?

[stx4wheeler]

yes you always have to shorten the driveshaft, since the sterling pinion is so fawking long

[Sharpe]

Shoulda used a 14 bolt then you wouldnt have to.

[william_ace]

ah well hopefully you wont break **** this time

[sasquatch]

took it to 47 today. no problems.

[sasquatch]

my alternator took a **** the other day. found a good page for info. apparently you are supposed to use a resistor in the L circuit if there is no charging lamp. sharpe and frick, this may be why your cs144s **** up so often.

i got a new one and installed it the way this page says to do it. there is alot of info on it
http://oljeep.com/gw/alt/edge_Alternator_Theory.html#Section_3

[Sharpe]

Mine's fine, it hooked up to the factory chevy wiring no problemo. I attribute the death of the one in Clayton to the massive amounts of mud flung on it at the redneck games.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

my alternator took a **** the other day. found a good page for info. apparently you are supposed to use a resistor in the L circuit if there is no charging lamp. sharpe and frick, this may be why your cs144s **** up so often.

i got a new one and installed it the way this page says to do it. there is alot of info on it
http://oljeep.com/gw/alt/edge_Alternator_Theory.html#Section_3


Hmmm, I am thinkin Katemcy is da debil to alternators as both of mine took a crap that sunday. :rolleyes:

[sasquatch]

some crap that got built today

[DRAGOONRANCH]

That table got a metal plate on it? That trac bar looks hella stout, now ya just got to get some real tires to test it out. :gigem:

[agjohn02]

it looks like a gorilla traction bar

[AggieTJ2007]

it may not bend but I bet you will crack the welds down at the end

[sasquatch]

i cut the bumper down. going to start gathering parts for a 60 swap.

I've looked at pictures of ryans and i suppose im going to do something similar with generic chevy 1/2 ton rear leaf springs. i'll make the rear brackets if i can't find the ones that everyone uses for cheap.

anyone know someone that needs some d 44s?

[sasquatch]

i'm going to cut the bumper off while building the front cross member. just figure out what to do with it afterwards.

the 35s hit on this piece of the bed already, so with 40s it'll be worse. i guess im gonna move the rear axle back and gain departure clearance or cut and move the the piece of sq tube. my wb is already 117". im not sure i want it longer.

[CRaSHnBuRN]

how much would the WB change if you flipped your springs around? If your springs are like mine you could flip them around to gain some wheelbase, and gain alot of departure angle.

[colman]

i may know someone interested in those or one of those axles. how much do you want for them or just one

[Seth]

what d44 gears?

[sasquatch]

both have 3.50s. i want at least 300 for both of them.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

the cheby is sitting right at 119.5 IIRC. Don't know if that helps or not.

[sasquatch]

how much would the WB change if you flipped your springs around? If your springs are like mine you could flip them around to gain some wheelbase, and gain alot of departure angle.

forgot that i could do that. does doing so have any ill effects on the springs?

[savvyaggie]

no ill effects that I know of, you will just have to check pinion angle and lengthn the driveshaft.

[stx4wheeler]

people on fullsize say you run the risk of breaking the front spring eye, but i have no evidence to prove this. You will gain like 7 inches of wheel base i believe

[TxCruzr]

miliraty wraped side should go on the fixed mount side, helps keep it from bending springs. Granted, if you don't redrill the bottom leaf just right, you might end up doing more damage to it then just running it as is.

this was just letting off clutch and backing up, not under power
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6770&stc=1&d=1012000200

[savvyaggie]

but that is without an antiwrap bar... He has one.

[TxCruzr]

he has a wrap bar, it is on the other side
now the pic is gone, guess pirate got mad

[agjohn02]

he has a wrap bar, it is on the other side
now the pic is gone, guess pirate got mad


no, its still there. pics just dont link from pirate. you have to save and attach them.

[RCcola55]

chevy 56's talk to sharpe about them

[Sharpe]

Do 52's like Chowder did. They flex the same as 56'2 but you dont have to deal with the pinion angle issues of 56's. The only reason I am running 56's is cause I have 4 spare pairs of them at my shop.

[CRaSHnBuRN]

miliraty wraped side should go on the fixed mount side, helps keep it from bending springs. Granted, if you don't redrill the bottom leaf just right, you might end up doing more damage to it then just running it as is.


my F150 springs do not have a military wrap at either end, so I see no reason flipping them would cause problems

[TxCruzr]

my F150 springs do not have a military wrap at either end, so I see no reason flipping them would cause problems

in your case it would not make a difference but in a situation where there is military wrap, it would be stronger to have that at the fixed point since when you back up the leaf is being pushed into the mount and there is no give as there is at the other end. Military wrap is 2 leafs so it's going to be stronger then a side w/o military wrap that is only 1 leaf

[RCcola55]

i mean run 56's in the back, Sharpe didnt you tell me that would stretch the rear 6in on the bronco?

[Sharpe]

Depends on how or if your current rear springs' center pins are offset. If they are the usual Ford 57" springs the pins should be offset to the front (in factory configuration) around 4", just like chevy 56's. So, whether you used the ford 57's or chevy 56's if you put the long end forward you would be moving the rear axle back approx 4" and shortening your rear overhang.

[stx4wheeler]

it is more that 4 inches if i remember correctly on the fords i believe it is around 6 or 7 inches fyi

[CRaSHnBuRN]

it is more that 4 inches if i remember correctly on the fords i believe it is around 6 or 7 inches fyi

I want to say it was 7 inches. I have a couple of links about spring lengths and center pin offsets at home on the laptop that I'll post up as soon as my internet at the apartment is working

[sasquatch]

tight

[savvyaggie]

did everything go smooth this morning??

[sasquatch]

yeah

[sasquatch]

How far should I move the axle forward?

[Sharpe]

Far as you can without moving the steering box.

[RCcola55]

i fell asleep

[sasquatch]

i got tacked it in place...

[RCcola55]

if you call tomorrow i will be napping :flipoff2: