The Sanchez

[sasquatch]

got more done today

[sasquatch]

shackles

[RCcola55]

box it like i said dummy that why I cut out the other piece!

[TMatheaus]

forget putting that 60 in and do something like this

[mudtoy67]

forget putting that 60 in and do something like this

Were you just passing through or are you living down here now? I forget who it was that is lives/is from down here. I've passed by that a bunch just never got a chance to take a pic.

[TMatheaus]

i'm living in lake jackson for about another month, i've seen it several times while going through rosenberg, its just the first time i was able to get a pic, i had to go to schulenburg yesterday for work so i stopped, next time i go back through hopefully i will have my digital camera so i can get some better pics

[RCcola55]

give me the antiwrap bar, and get on ebay and find some warn 35 spline slugs, also get stubs

[CheapJeep]

4wdFactory has complete 35 spline kits for $385. I ended up getting alot of my stuff from Rockstomper.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

so what's your WB now, the cheby is sitting at ~121 w/ the 56's and new spring hangers up front.

[sasquatch]

around 123"

[sasquatch]

i got the 44 out this afternoon. pain in the ass by myself

[BMFScout]

Flem, John, surely someone can help at least haul it into it's spot?

[DRAGOONRANCH]

I am debating a trip down tomorrow afternoon if you still need the help then. I was lookin for a good excuse to drink a beer tomorrow anyways. :D

[agjohn02]

all ya gotta do is ask.

[sasquatch]

its no biggie. im not going to try it tonight. i've got other stuff that needs to be done anyway. Ed, John, what time tomorrow can you lend a hand?

[agjohn02]

ill pencil you in. give me a call whenever.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

I can prolly cut out here around 5 or 6 (about an hour drive down).

[nickas]

i'll help anytime after 3 today

[sasquatch]

alright, i'll probably start working on it around 4. i need to go swap out my oxygen tank and pick up some bolts before then

[DRAGOONRANCH]

bout to put my boots on and head that way.

[RCcola55]

stop being a ***** and get it done already

[stx4wheeler]

robert cook(sand in my vag) voice on"oh my back"robert cook(sand in my vag) voice off

[sasquatch]

ass holes. me and nick got it in there. it wasnt too bad once we got a strategy. flem and ed came by too but we already had it under there.

pitman arm clearance is going to be interesting. i need to make the rear spring hangers now.

[agjohn02]

sorry i missed the party. i was expecting a phone call so i wasnt trying to remember.

[BMFScout]

The pitman arm clearance is going to be interesting because of the reverse shackle deal? I've seen that when the "towers" are too short. Also make sure your front drive shaft has plenty of travel. I finally overextended mine at Katemcy at the tech weekend deal.

[sasquatch]

the steering box is on the outside of the frame, and the springs are just outside of the frame as well. i got a little more done today. making brackets is a very slow job. i will need a cv driveshaft i believe, since mine is just a regular slipe yoke one with tiny 1310 joints. i think i can make a 78-79 bronco driveshaft work.

i thought about making the front hangers lower but clearance and approach angle would suffer. i don't know what to do yet. i may just go full hydro if i can't make the pitman arm and leaf springs be friends

[CRaSHnBuRN]

could you not have rotated the box a little to get the pitman arm as close to the frame as you could?

[sasquatch]

i guess i could. that would mean making a new steering shaft and moving the box might be a pain i dont know. are pitman arms forged? maybe i could heat it up and bend it

[CheapJeep]

Do you have any clearance on the inside of the frame to where you could use a different steering box? Maybe move the box back a couple inches and shorten the steering shaft or notch the frame 1/4" to 1/2" and recess it?

[sasquatch]

heres the progress of today. all of the weight is on the springs now. i don't know what to think of it yet.

[davido]

Man, your rig and Sharpe's have come along well. Beefy. Pretty cool. The front looks a little lower than it could be. Now you both should get 44s. :) You might have to trim a little in the front.

[AggieTJ2007]

I would rebuild the front bracket and drop it down about an inch maybe more. it will help with pinion angle and clear the pitman arm

[sasquatch]

yea, i think thats my next project. i dont think a inch lower would cost too much approach angle

[JB]

here is a pic from my build way back when. But I guess your issue is coming from have the steering box on the outside of the frame.

[BMFScout]

HF grinders suck. You think they are alright until you use a real a grinder. Then you realize how bad they vibrate and kill your hands.

[JB]

I love my Milwaukee grinder

[Reckless]

The Dewalt 10 amp 4 1/2 in is a damn good grinder. best ive ever used.

[agjohn02]

im not going to comment on how good my dewalt is. dont wanna jin it. i wanna be able to say ive done two builds with it. as much as i use a grinder... thats a testament.

my HF drill burst into flames one day while notching tube.

[colman]

i have 4 hf grinders one flap one grinder one cutter and they all have lasted over a year with a lot of use. now if i could afford 3 dewalts then hell yea but for the price of one of the hf ones you really can't beat them. once you get one that works for that matter. i plug mine in before i leave the store, went thru 3 right there in the front before i left with my second one

[agjohn02]

the thing i hate about the hf grinders is the switch. i much prefer a paddle switch that kills the grinder if you let go. get your shirt in a hf and you arent going to find the switch and turn it off in time. you at least have a chance with a paddle switch.

[JeepPhisherman]

the thing i hate about the hf grinders is the switch. i much prefer a paddle switch that kills the grinder if you let go. get your shirt in a hf and you arent going to find the switch and turn it off in time. you at least have a chance with a paddle switch.


I usually try and keep my clothes out of the power tools I'm using... :gigem:

[sasquatch]

the thing i hate about the hf grinders is the switch. i much prefer a paddle switch that kills the grinder if you let go. get your shirt in a hf and you arent going to find the switch and turn it off in time. you at least have a chance with a paddle switch.

hf has one on their website that looks like a copy of the dewalt dw402 which is what i have, paddle switch and all. Thats what made me want to go to hf to get one, but they don't have those in the store. :rolleyes:

[agjohn02]

I usually try and keep my clothes out of the power tools I'm using... :gigem:



how about dropping it on your chest while on your back. or or or, there are lots of situations where the chinese might not mind using dangerous tools but i do. i think brandon has lost two or three fingers to his HF grinder.

[CRaSHnBuRN]

My first HF grinder kicked ass, and lasted over 3 years. But it got rained on and died, so I replaced it, and the new one is definitely junk. One time I turned it off, and set it down. About 10 minutes later it suddenly came on and shot accross the work table.

[AggieTJ2007]

I have 2 dewalt grinders and a porter cable. However the porter cable, which is a copy of a dewalt needs new brushes, it was/is about 4 years old. The dewalts got used alot, one of them has a wire wheel stuck on it and rowdy couldn't kill the other.

now if you are a man you buy a dewalt or millwakee 7 inch grider. That is going to be my next purchase as far as grinders. They are incredible, can do acurate work and quickly.

[Reckless]

What can I say, I tried

[sasquatch]

pitman arm clearence is better but, not great. i need to start ordering parts...

[BMFScout]

looks like the top of the TRE is going to hit the frame. I know, mine was ridiculously close when I had the flat Waggie arm on there.

[CRaSHnBuRN]

looks like the top of the TRE is going to hit the frame. I know, mine was ridiculously close when I had the flat Waggie arm on there.

Unless the camera angle is bad, I think you're right. If nothing else I guess he could always put a little notch in the frame to help it clear

[sasquatch]

the actual joint goes under the pitman arm. the only thing on top of the arm is the end of the shaft and nut. the camera angle is a little deceiving. there is about 3/4" of clearance between the frame and arm

[sasquatch]

found out that 2wd trucks of my body style have a mirror steering box of the 4wd's inside the frame. so i'm thinking since i wanted to get a rebuilt box since mines leaking and old, i'll just get the 2wd version, tap it for hydro assist and slap it on. providing there isnt something in the way

[Sharpe]

now if you are a man you buy a dewalt or millwakee 7 inch grider. That is going to be my next purchase as far as grinders. They are incredible, can do acurate work and quickly.
I have a 7" black and decker that will rock your world. Now, I'm sure you're thinking "oh black and decker, yah those are homo-metro-housewife tools." Not this one. It is fawking old, I would guess 60's-ish. It weighs at least 5 pounds and will jerk you around if you dont pay attention. I used it exclusively for the first year I had my welder because it somehow slipped my attention that anyone made smaller grinders :laughing:

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Just make sure you will be able to clear the tierod. I have the TR infront on the cheby and it seems to be tucked up pretty good although the fowty fo's do help this. I have seen some pictures of the arms breaking (although only a few) so I guess it would boil down to what material they are made from when you decide on the thickness.

[sasquatch]

ed what kind of arms do you have

[DRAGOONRANCH]

I am pretty sure I have the ORD arms with the tie-rod infront. You need a picture of them?

[sasquatch]

no, just was wondering what brand

[sasquatch]

im still working on rebuilding the 60. i didn't expect every wearable part to be completely ****ed

[sasquatch]

almost done cleaning the housing. also got a pair of add a leafs and 6* shims on, hopefully they'll actually give the front springs arch under weight.

[RCcola55]

did my pinion tool work

[sasquatch]

no, it was too small. used impact and a piece of rebar

[AggieTJ2007]

whats with the welded kingpin caps?

[sasquatch]

its to protect the grease fitting that screws in. don't want it getting broken off.

[AggieTJ2007]

ok, i see now, good idea or you could get a flush mount grease fitting, also pretty hard to break off that grease fitting

[sasquatch]

still debating on tre's or heims.

[mudtoy67]

Go to harbor freight and get one of their beaing puller sets. comes with a two jaw puller and accessories. Take the two jaws and grind the tooth a little narrower on the end, so that it will fit under the bearing in the puller grooves on the carrier. Assemble the puller into position, then get a c-clamp and put it across the two jaws to hold them together on the bearing. Use an impact to crank the puller. You'll have to find/make something to fit the end of the carrier for the bolt to push against. This method works about 61.813% of the time, the rest just have to get a new bearing.

Or get one of these...I'm planning on buying one of these pretty soon...should make gear swaps a bit easier: http://completeoffroad.com/wsm/i-61_carrier__pinion_bearing_puller.html

[colman]

i have a puller you can barrow, did you ever determine if that carrier will fit 4.10 gears?

[colman]

what gears were on the carrier the brake is at 3.92

[sasquatch]

don't know

[Sharpe]

Capital bearing over by BOTCO, whats the other one?

[sasquatch]

gears have been set for two weeks. finally going to have time to put it under the truck tomorrow

[colman]

did the gear puller i lent you work

[sasquatch]

no, it was too small. i'll drop it off sometime this week

[sasquatch]

axle is under the truck. the guy i ordered parts from sent me the wrong lenth spindle studs so im stuck waiting for those.

the city is on my ass now for the truck sitting too long :rolleyes:

[RCcola55]

looks like the springs got a little more arch now, i still say you need to take those shims out, put an angle finger on the kingpin caps and see what the caster is.



dad is looking for the steering should be here sunday

[Doug Krebs]

angle finger

Girl's love em!

PS why don't you put some tires in the front wheel wells. It would look a ton better.

[colman]

the 3 we are using on brian's front d60 ( we checked they are long enough etc) are from oreiley's they usually keep 1 or more at each store. i can get a part number later or you can drop off my puller and look at them yourself. i will probably forget so you may want to call me

[william_ace]

what are the measurements?

[sasquatch]

9/16 3.25 wide at least 8.5 long

[colman]

10 5/8 long 3 3/8 wide 9/16 thich part # 35645 HELP is the brand

[sasquatch]

4 wheel parts was cheaper and had the right size. even though they ****ed up the last order i had, i ordered from them.

steering. so heims or tre's and dle's?

i've heard that heims don't have enough misalignment to be used on drag links. dle's have the most degree of range. are they weaker? do people use the drag link hole in the right tre on chevy ends? both seem to be in about the same price range. if heims will work, i'd rather use them so i don't have to ream holes.

[Sharpe]

Unless your arms are double-shear I would tend to think TRE's would be better. I know plenty of people run heims on a single shear bolt but it seems like the bolt hole would begin to wallow out after some hard wheeling. Yes reaming is a PITA but I'd say its probably worth it. Not to mention if you broke a TRE on a trip it'd probably be easier to find than a heim in a podunk town parts store.

[sasquatch]

where is the reamer that you had?

[Seth]

tre's - my vote. street legal too.

[Sharpe]

Its Garrett's, and he's in the land down under until further notice.

[RCcola55]

mine is in shupes tool box

[stx4wheeler]

i dunno cook between the heim and tre debate I drove eb garretts bronco with the tre's and it was fawking scary how loose it was. Clarke said his were pretty damn loose as well. My heims are about a year old and i have no complaints about them at all, they havent had lots of street miles on them though

[TxCruzr]

Missed the debate but if it is anything about saying that heims dont last on the street and get loose, then you're using cheap heims. Have about 6 or 7 years on mine with who knows how many thousands of street and highway miles and they are just as tight as the day I got them.
As far as tre's being street legal, I would really like to see a cop give someone a ticket for using heims.

[stx4wheeler]

i have the qa1 heims and like them

[sasquatch]

got the ends of the 60 put together.

[stx4wheeler]

looks good with the black wheels cook

[eight]

I predict you will hate those wheels in the future.

[colman]

better not get bigger tires or you won't be able to fit it under the car port, and of course then it will rain when you need to fix something

[sasquatch]

I predict you will hate those wheels in the future.

i already suspect it

[colman]

i already suspect it

why?

[sasquatch]

16.5 regular wheels lose beads if you look at them wrong

[Doug Krebs]

16.5 regular wheels lose beads if you look at them wrong

Hell they're steel! Put a mig welder on the lowest setting and run a bead or 2 where the safety bead should be.

[uglyota]

rim screws!

[CheapJeep]

weld the tre's in... :flipoff2:

[CheapJeep]

How soon would you need it?

[BMFScout]

Square would make it easy to adjust the toe!

[agjohn02]

as long as you dont use kopecki oilfield pipe, it'll weld fine.

[RCcola55]

http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/125-Square-tube-adapter_p_7-1557.html

doug can you make something like this but with either 7/8"-18 or 3/4"-whatever?, to fit into square with an 1" i.d.

[uglyota]

call ballistic, they'll make them for you, it's like a 3-man operation, nice guys

[RCcola55]

do that cook and order me some also

[robertf03]

or you could order the round tubing and adapters off of the same website and from the looks of it spend less money :flipoff2:

i think 7/8-18 in a 1" id hole would be bad news

[RCcola55]

or you could order the round tubing and adapters off of the same website and from the looks of it spend less money :flipoff2:

i think 7/8-18 in a 1" id hole would be bad news

thats what my steering has, you just have to be careful when welding them, i had one end up with ****ed up threads after welding

square tube is cool :gigem:

[Doug Krebs]

http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/125-Square-tube-adapter_p_7-1557.html

doug can you make something like this but with either 7/8"-18 or 3/4"-whatever?, to fit into square with an 1" i.d.

Yeah... I have 7/8 -18 taps... 3/4 would depend on the tap.

$17 is cheap for that. I'm assuming they either use a CNC or a jig and make alot at time.

I'm not sure it would be worth my effort to make for $17.

[robertf03]

I'm not sure it would be worth my effort to make for $17.

I was thinking the same. The page said they have a 4th axis mill, so it probably takes less than a minute for them to make one. You'd probably have to swap out a 4 jaw chuck in a lathe, flip the thing around 4 different times on the mill, and still have to order material.

[sasquatch]

i have a bad feeling that the high steer arms are not going to clear the leaf springs...

[bcolman]

if they do, they make spacers, but i have no idea how they would work on an off road truck

[bburris]

can you post a picture of the setup?

[sasquatch]

can you post a picture of the setup?

i will once i get the rear put back together. i'm not done with the gears yet.

[agjohn02]

needs more cowbell

[sasquatch]

finished up today. just need to wrestle it back under the truck. i'll be happy if i don't have to mess with gears for awhile.

[RCcola55]

did you do what i said?

[sasquatch]

i dont remember what you said, something about subtracting and adding .010".

backlash is .008" which is what the instructions with the gears said to have.

pinion preload is about 25 in lbs. which is the average between the new and old bearing ranges.

i had to hammer the carrier in with the dead blow, so the carrier bearing preload is probably good.

and i took pictures of the pattern

what else?

[RCcola55]

sounds good and you still suck

[TxCruzr]

what else?

peel out and see if it holds :gigem:

[sasquatch]

i decided that pvc was cheaper so i'm going to use it instead of tube

[Eckert]

its light weight too :gigem:

[agjohn02]

be sure to use the purple primer before you glue it in.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

atleast you won't have to worry about Clarke trying to "weld" on it. :D

[DRAGOONRANCH]

It's schedule 40 right???

oh, and make sure to use pvc and not cpvc, that stuff is crap

[sasquatch]

new antiwrap bar and steering links done.

now the debate is where to mount the ram. i think the best place is build a mount on the axle tube, but it could go on the cover. if it was on the cover, would that make it more prone to leak?

[davido]

Unless you have a HD aftermarket one, I would recommend on the axle tube. You'll want some heavy welds to really hold that thing in place. You can't put emough heat on a stock cover, IMO to get a HD connection. It also seems lower than I would want to run mine. Mine is on the top of the axle with the tie rod behind the axle. Not much to hit.

[agjohn02]

it should be on the passenger side axle tube far enough over to get the tie rod mount in the middle of the tie rod.

[sasquatch]

yea, thats where i was going to mount it if i put it on the tube. i like the idea of putting it on the tube better than the cover

[DRAGOONRANCH]

the antiwrap in the front or rear? I am looking at ways to mount the one on front of the beast one of these days.

[BMFScout]

http://tamor.org/forums/showthread.php?t=5161&page=18&pp=15&highlight=belle

Here's mine, mounted to the tube. I was trying to accomplish these things:

Really solid mounts, made my own tower on one end, tabs they sent with it boxed in on the tierod end.

Parallel and close to the Tierod.

Mounted as close to the middle of the Tierod as possible.

Make sure there was no way it was going to bind (why I think they break)

[Sharpe]

What are y'all's thoughts on tying the "tower" into the spring plate on that side?

[agjohn02]

bad

[BMFScout]

why would you need to?

[Sharpe]

A little extra rigidity. I've seen a few people do it and was just wondering.

[CheapJeep]

I've seen that as well but wondered if the ram would be too far over on the passenger side to keep it centered with the tierod. I need to mount my ram soon, any other pics of ram mounts?

[sasquatch]

alright now that i got todays tests done. here's some pics of some work

[sasquatch]

i found a cluster**** of adapters that'll let me run a chevy saginaw with my stock ford hp hose. it was cheap and i didn't have to go order 50 different hoses to find one that would fit

[DRAGOONRANCH]

great work cooke.

[sasquatch]

drilling out springs for a bigger center bolt bad idea?

[agjohn02]

only a bad idea if you like your drillbits

[RCcola55]

the only reason it broke was from the 2.5" springs moving around on a 3" perch, notch the passenger side and make a new spring plate to fit it and make a spacer for the driver side, problem sovled

[bburris]

You can, it'll just eat drill bits. Spring steel doesn't like to be drilled...

[Sharpe]

**** that I dont have kind of spacers on my front springs. Do your shims have flats machined into them for the bold head to sit on? Mine didnt and when I took them apart to install my add-a-leafs the grade 8 3/8" bolts I had in there had bent severely. I used a grinder and added a flat surface myself. Ghetto? Deffinately, but it works.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

anyone heard of drilling out springs for a bigger center bolt? bad idea?


slow and lots of oil....

If you can put it in a drill press would be even better.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

is the hole in the spring plate big enough to encompass the washer? If not, I would be inclined to think that this might put a bit of unneeded stress in there or atleast give the springs some wiggle room they don't need. Take a pic of before and after if you get a chance.

[Sharpe]

If you need a set of leaves with retainers I will see what I have. On pigpen, I ditched a few of the shorter leafs but kept the leaf that has the retainers on it and ditched a few of the leafs that are longer than the retainer. Make sense? If you want to know more, come get me tomorow night...I'm off east 30 near loop 12...

[sasquatch]

mesquite?

[Seth]

Should be close to the 20/80 split. It's the other side of Fair park, that's all you really need to know. It's about 30 min away for me if yall do anything.

[RCcola55]

If you need a set of leaves with retainers I will see what I have. On pigpen, I ditched a few of the shorter leafs but kept the leaf that has the retainers on it and ditched a few of the leafs that are longer than the retainer. Make sense? If you want to know more, come get me tomorow night...I'm off east 30 near loop 12...

Irving

[Seth]

other side of the loop?

[Seth]

that puts you about 15 min away from me btw. close to the junkyards and some old wheelin spots, all kinds of good stuff down there.

[davido]

anyone heard of drilling out springs for a bigger center bolt? bad idea?


After shearing a few, I stopped using crappy soft center pins and went to using grade 8 bolts instead. I actually stripped out the threads on a center bolt when tightening it down once. That was enough for me. Fine thread bolts from Ace. File down (round) the hex head a little if it's not fitting. Use the biggest one that will fit in the springs. I haven't broken one since I switched. I also added the antiwrap bars which I think helped, but you already have those.

[sasquatch]

After shearing a few, I stopped using crappy soft center pins and went to using grade 8 bolts instead. I actually stripped out the threads on a center bolt when tightening it down once. That was enough for me. Fine thread bolts from Ace. File down (round) the hex head a little if it's not fitting. Use the biggest one that will fit in the springs. I haven't broken one since I switched. I also added the antiwrap bars which I think helped, but you already have those.

probably will be what i put back in the springs.

i took the pass side apart and this is whats left. i think grade 8 bolts, steel shims, and spring clamps will solve the problem

http://tamor.us/members-rigs/albums/Robert-Cook/000_0273_Small.jpg

http://tamor.us/members-rigs/albums/Robert-Cook/000_0272_Small.jpg

[davido]

Yep. And tighten that crap out of your Ubolts. You should be set after that. I'm curious to see how it works out.

[sasquatch]

got new steel shims off ebay. i was surprised that they were "spotfaced" for the bolt head already. went to mack and got some hardened allen socket head bolts for the springs. supposedly they are stronger than grade 8 bolts.

this is what i came up with for keeping the springs aligned. just kind of copyed the retainers on the main leaf

[uglyota]

that's a great idea, are they all one piece and bolted into the spring pack?

[sasquatch]

yea, the retainers are 5x3" .25 square tube with one side cut so its all one piece. it isnt bolted to the pack but its sandwiched in there pretty good between the clamps themselves and the u bolts

[DRAGOONRANCH]

The only thing I might wory about would if it would end up rattling, but if it is tight enough it looks like it will work fine.

[sasquatch]

driver side was the same way. guess the first time the leaves spun it broke the center bolt. explains why i had to beat the add a leaves back in several times friday evening.

i need to do the u bolt flip on the driver side too

[sasquatch]

just wanted to post some recent pictures

[JeepPhisherman]

Looking good Cook.

[agjohn02]

ah yeah, that thing looks pretty good.

[TxCruzr]

truck is looking sweet cook, what's next in line for it?

[uglyota]

wow, in that one picture your rig makes pigpen look like a cobbled together pile of poo!

:flipoff2: sharpe

[sasquatch]

this is why i shat a driveshaft at 47 on saturday. pretty weak

[Sharpe]

Dangling brake line fitting?

[Fredo]

See the peanut.....dead giveaway.

[sasquatch]

...

[JeepPhisherman]

That's what she said.

[mudtoy67]

Found a new grill for you at pick-a-part today!:gigem:

[jerryg79]

Found a new grill for you at pick-a-part today!:gigem:

krassy!

[DRAGOONRANCH]

pimpadelic for sure.

[agjohn02]

thats pretty funny. somebody actually put work into making those.

yeah, some chinese kids. you can buy them at hardware and metal stores.

[sasquatch]

not the cast iron orb things, the whole insert

[agjohn02]

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee181/brownsmetal/truggy/photoshoot-86.jpg

[RCcola55]

i showed him that a while ago

[sasquatch]

dig the boat siding and the cab exo except for the top windshield bar. everything in front of the cab looks gay, especially the hood.

i may backhalf it one day when i get tired of wheeling it like it is.

after finals, im going to make a new rear driveshaft and some protection for it. ryan had an idea i liked for a hinged skid plate. i decided that the sleeving i did to the old one is way too ghetto and its just going to get ****ed up again.

[JB]

I like that but don't like the shortened hood either.

[agjohn02]

it may look kinda weird but it seems very functional.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

it just needs more tubing up front, seems unfinished to me

[Doug Krebs]

any more pics of that? I think it looks pretty sweet.

I agree the hood looks goofy, but like Ed said it looks unfinished.

[sasquatch]

that could definitly be the case. plans for mine this summer include a cab exo and probably boatsiding

[Eckert]

it just needs more tubing up front, seems unfinished to me

no toob on the other side. still looks damn good to me. may be difficult with the body line, but a dove nose and narrowed grille would look neat.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

no toob on the other side. still looks damn good to me. may be difficult with the body line, but a dove nose and narrowed grille would look neat.

neat=:rainbow:


















































:flipoff2:

[Eckert]

neat=:rainbow:



:flipoff2:


does kickass and righteous better suit you?

http://www.thenewsstar.com/news/blogs/blog9/uploaded_images/joe_dirt-736884.jpg

[DRAGOONRANCH]

das my boy rite der....

viva la joe!!!!!!

[sasquatch]

i seriously ****ed some **** up today. i'm sure someone will post pics eventually.

[85cj7]

doing what? burnouts?

[Eckert]

in the meantime. you should tell us what happend.

[RCcola55]

60's are pieces of ****

[sasquatch]

doing what? burnouts?

i actually wheel my rig. b itch


in the meantime. you should tell us what happend.

later. im exhausted.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

later. im exhausted.


so you wheel like you webmaster? :flipoff2:

[RCcola55]

actually after spending 6hrs on a recovery mission from hell we are all exhausted

[agjohn02]

actually after spending 6hrs on a recovery mission from hell we are all exhausted

for one vehicle? pfft, try 5 vehicles next time.:flipoff2:

[Sharpe]

I want details asshole.

[RCcola55]

knuckle exploded, lets start there

[rockfrawg]

on a side note...this thing has come a long way in 70 pages since 2005, good work...

now tell us whats next? rockwells? :gigem:

[JB]

knuckle exploded, lets start there


BJ>KP :flipoff2:

we need pics

[Sharpe]

Where is the truck now? I drove by Cook's house on my way to work cause I wanted to see it but neither truck was there.

[CheapJeep]

That sucks... I must have put some voodoo on your truck when I worked on it the other day. Hopefully the t-case mount stayed tightened up.

Question... When you made your high steer arm spacers did you make a kingpin spring spacer to compensate for the additional gap between the spring and cap? Without it the upper end of the knuckle wouldn't be torqued to the load spec and would have more movement than normal.

[Reckless]

Its at westons. We drove by there and it was seriously fubared. He even ripped off the steering arm.

[Sharpe]

Cook will be calling Dedenbaer soon.

[RCcola55]

Tire got bound up on a down hill yesterday at 47. At first we believed it was just a hub or even a stub, but after cook started to pull forward, as weston put it, it sounded like bones crushing, then a chunk on the inner axle rolls down the hill and the tire fold under the truck. The knuckle split under the highsteer arm and ripped off the inner C, possibly fubaring that.

They spent the next couple of hours getting it down the hill with the help of some jeeps, the exploder fag, and steve, and into the valley where we spent the 10 year deal.

After doing some trailer jocking, Weston and I go his truck, that has a blown head gasket and trailer down to the valley. In order to get the sanchez lined up to put it on the trailer, we had to the ol' burnout push and spin, but with a burnt up clutch in made this process very interesting. Once in position Westons goes to start his truck, and dead battery. This is when I decided I needed a nap, cook will have to fill in the next hour.

When i woke up there was a tractor, Westons truck and trailer, and his GF's little car down in the valley. Once everything was sit getting a 3-wheeled truck on the trailer was the easy part. We pulled out of 47 around 8:45 and bee lined to the new chinese buffet to stuff our faces.

The front axle is in need of some serious work as it sits right now.

[robertf03]

the one that used to be a black eyed pea, or mongolian?

[uglyota]

Sweet! How's it compare to China King?

[RCcola55]

The old Black eye peas, small but overall better then CKB

[jerryg79]

The old Black eye peas, small but overall better then CKB

impossible'

[sasquatch]

cook will have to fill in the next hour.

after we figured out the battery was dead in westons truck. steve was already 3/4 of the way back down to us on the little 35 hp tractor that somehow was able to pick the left corner of my truck up. call him to turn around and get jumper cables and some tools. few minutes later weston starts walking to the front to meet his gf that brought more tools and some water. i pull the battery out of my truck and put it in westons truck when steve gets back on the tractor. try to start it only to realized weston took the keys to the truck with him to the front, wait another 30 minutes and they somehow wheel the hyundai down to us and we use my battery to start westons truck to get the trailer in the right place. then put it back in my truck so i can use the rearend to pull me on the trailer while steve lifted the front corner with the bucket on the tractor. (this was the way we got it from the bottom of the trail i was on back to the valley) then put the battery back in westons truck so we could get the **** out of there.

i think weston has pics on his camera. i'll get them when i pull the truck back to my house.

[RCcola55]

impossible'

possible, the only down fall of the new place is that it lacks a mongolian grill

[agjohn02]

impossible'

you should have just spelled it phonetically the way you were saying it so i could quote you in my sig

[sasquatch]

BJ>KP :flipoff2:

we need pics

more like 7k truck + hydro assist + 40" tires > KP knuckle


impossible'

buffet tastes better and has more kinds of food, but you pay 2 extra dollars for it

[sasquatch]

rockwells require too much lift. probably will be upgrading the current 60. has anybody else in the club even broken a KP knuckle?

[rockfrawg]

has anybody else in the club even broken a KP knuckle?

i dunno about in this club, but it seems pretty common amongst pirate folks...just did a lot of research about BJ vs. KP and there werent many cases of broken BJ knuckle...could be because not as many people run them. there was one well documented comp guy who has run a BJ60 for many seasons and never broken a knuckle. the broken KP knuckles were attributed to the extra force being placed on top of the knuckle where it wasnt designed to go, which is intensified when running spacers under the arms...leverage and sheer and all that crap.

[uglyota]

rockwells+springunder

[colman]

rockwells+springunder

how would this work, the rockwell has that hugh gear reduction chunk, it would hit the oil pan. he would have to move his front axle forward ton

[StevenAg03]

rockwells+springunder

rockwells + leaf springs dont get along very good unless they are rediculously stiff or have some hell-acious antiwrap bars...

[Seth]

Anything is better than China King. Flem Robbie and I concluded this after Flem tried eating some packing material last time we were there.

[RCcola55]

http://www.solidaxle.com/ProductCart/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=8

http://www.dedenbear.com/TXToffroad.htm#knuckles

[TMatheaus]

hurry up and post some pics

[rockfrawg]

http://www.solidaxle.com/ProductCart/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=8

http://www.dedenbear.com/TXToffroad.htm#knuckles

gawd dayum!!! $$$$$$ the pairs of inner C's, knuckles and arms cost more than a new 60.

[RCcola55]

well appearently, stock **** isnt good enough, so i guess you gotta pay to play

[sasquatch]

here are some rti pics from that day

[sasquatch]

and when everything went down hill

[sasquatch]

one more

[davido]

holy ****!

[eight]

Yet another reason to wheel a sensibly sized vehicle.

Does that truck really weigh 7K?

[DRAGOONRANCH]

was there any rust where it cracked? It looks like that thing was just lookin for an excuse to explode on ya anyways...

[agjohn02]

thats where all 60 knuckles break. nothing too odd there. sucks none-the-less.

[BMFScout]

That is awesome! Andy busted a shaft out there getting in a bind going down hill at the tenth, but nothing like that. You rule Cook!

[eight]

Very impressive.

[BroncoJo]

saw it going down texas today, all the other drivers were looking at it with a "what the fawk stare".:gigem:

[sasquatch]

Yet another reason to wheel a sensibly sized vehicle.

Does that truck really weigh 7K?

i don't know. the point was that it is heavy. i like wheeling a full size and don't want a jeep like every other asshole out there.


was there any rust where it cracked? It looks like that thing was just lookin for an excuse to explode on ya anyways...

no. there wasn't anything visably wrong with the knuckle. i wire wheeled and inspected everything when i rebuilt the axle. do you have stock knuckles? might happen to you too. although i remember something about chevy knuckles are less prone to this sort of thing

[sasquatch]

That is awesome! Andy busted a shaft out there getting in a bind going down hill at the tenth, but nothing like that. You rule Cook!

:gigem:

[Doug Krebs]

I might have missed this, but did you have a spacer between the steering arm and the knuckle?

[agjohn02]

I might have missed this, but did you have a spacer between the steering arm and the knuckle?

survey says... yes.


http://www.tamor.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=12469&stc=1&d=1201810778

[CheapJeep]

Yo' **** got ****ed up.... It'll buff out.

[davido]

I have a 1" spacer under my arms. Was it the ram that pushed it "off"?

[agjohn02]

is it aluminum?

i wouldnt really attribute it to the spacer though. its just the nature of putting hydraulic steering on high steer arms turning big tires.

[85cj7]

is it aluminum?

i wouldnt really attribute it to the spacer though. its just the nature of putting hydraulic steering on high steer arms turning big tires.

i think its 3/8" or 1/2" plate

[agjohn02]

i think its 3/8" or 1/2" plate

titanium?

[85cj7]

flems got some he can spare.

[agjohn02]

not my point. you didnt answer the question

[85cj7]

mild steel

[DRAGOONRANCH]

i don't know. the point was that it is heavy. i like wheeling a full size and don't want a jeep like every other asshole out there.

So you're just an asshole who wants a fullsize? :flipoff2:


no. there wasn't anything visably wrong with the knuckle. i wire wheeled and inspected everything when i rebuilt the axle. do you have stock knuckles? might happen to you too. although i remember something about chevy knuckles are less prone to this sort of thing

Yeah, mine is a stock chevy axle. I have seen some mods to the knuckles where they have welded gussets on the top for a little bit of extra help. I don't know if that would have helped you any or not. I have thought about adding some to mine sooner or later, just looks like I may do it sooner now. ;)

Besides, with all of the rust on mine, it has to weigh a half a tonn less atleast. :flipoff2:

[Sharpe]

U gfuvked ur shizxit up

[RCcola55]

sharoe is coorertedt

[JB]

That knuckle needs its own shelf at Rudy's

[JB]

Yet another reason to wheel a sensibly sized vehicle.

Does that truck really weigh 7K?

I think more around 5500-6k? Still heavy.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

with his sasquatch ass in it, i would believe 6500. :flipoff2:

x2 on the shelf at rudy's :D

[uglyota]

wow. That is AWESOME! Wonder how much damage done and time wasted that stupid hill's got on it? It's gotta be in the thousands of hours and ten thousands of dollars now

[AggieTJ2007]

thats pretty sweet.

Its pretty common for a Ford kingpin knuckle to break there, sucks that it took out the inner C. I say go with spidertrax knuckles.