Lynda's "CJ" Buildup Progress

[Seth]

im guessing the little filter is for OBA? keepin the exhaust quiet i see? also - are those flex universal hoses pretty dependable?

[redcagepatrol]

yes, the little filter is for the on-board air. It's very quiet at idle (hardley tell it's running if the fan's off) and still sounds good when the tires are breaking loose in third. :D I hope the flex hose is dependable - it's made by Gates so that makes me feel better.

[agjohn02]

damnit scott you better not beat me on this build



Scott is going to smoke everyone. He'll have all of the odds and ends wrapped before my floor is even done. Pisses me off! :D Scott, it looks like 1101 again. Luckily you have a deep driveway.


done.


as for me, i still have 7 months and 11 days. :flipoff2:

[agjohn02]

how does that OBA work for you?

[redcagepatrol]

how does that OBA work for you?
haven't used it yet, but I'll try it soon and make sure it all works.

[Cajun]

Sheesh. All that work and you can't even manage to put the tires on the right way. :flipoff2:

Excellent work man.

[agjohn02]

Sheesh. All that work and you can't even manage to put the tires on the right way. :flipoff2:

Excellent work man.


:laughing:

the scoops are facing backwards. that trumps the seam on the outside of the bumper anyday!

the jeep on the cover of the last crawl had them like that too.

[redcagepatrol]

:laughing:

the scoops are facing backwards. that trumps the seam on the outside of the bumper anyday!

the jeep on the cover of the last crawl had them like that too.
I already swapped them - last week...

[agjohn02]

how did you connect the airlines to the compressor? pics?

[redcagepatrol]

I went to the j-yard and got some stock hoses - cut the truck side ends off while was there to get the hose for free...

Then on the suction side I cut the AL "nipple" down by the compressor and slid a hose over it with a hose clamp. On the Discharge side I left the flex hose long and inserted a barbed fitting with a hose clamp. I'll try to get a pic for you.

[agjohn02]

did you seriously only use 3 grinding wheels, 2 flap discs and 2 sanding discs?!?!

[redcagepatrol]

did you seriously only use 3 grinding wheels, 2 flap discs and 2 sanding discs?!?!
no, I used like 7 just getting the old crap off the frame... That's why I added $500 to the cost which might not be enough...

[eight]

I've used about 2 grinding wheels and one sanding disc total on my jeep, and it shows.

Anyway, I'm gonna be in your neighborhood in a little while.

[redcagepatrol]

bought some 6x9's and the "pods" fit perfectly! We were pretty happy about that :gigem:

[redcagepatrol]

also, our new Texas Horney Toad plates that read "CRAWL" plates are in the mail from Austin :gigem:

[agjohn02]

yeah, those do fit well. i couldnt see the pic on your phone very well but im pretty certain my b hoop bracing will keep them from fitting in mine.

[davido]

Those speaker boxes need some white leather... no no white OSTRICH wrapping. :) Slick.

[agjohn02]

is that paint heavy duty enough to hold up well on the inside in high traffic areas? under your feet, etc.?

[redcagepatrol]

is that paint heavy duty enough to hold up well on the inside in high traffic areas? under your feet, etc.?
I think so - I'm not going to worry about it too much... It's a Jeep right?

[agjohn02]

just wondering b/c i sure would rather spray that than bedliner.

[redcagepatrol]

I am looking for some type of toolbox to go on top of the fenders between the cage for stuff that will always stay in the Jeep. Any ideas? I have been looking around but can't seem to find anything "just right". The box needs to be semi-waterproof.

I have about 20" between the cage plates, 10" wide, and ~8" tall

[Seth]

I have a diamond plate box from homedepot that is about that size. I will measure it next time I see it. I could not find it on google or HD website.

[robertf03]

Pelican stuff is nice if plastic will work.

[JeepPhisherman]

Didn't one of the other guys make one for a CJ/YJ? His looked nice.

[85cj7]

me?

[JeepPhisherman]

Si.

[bcolman]

check out tuffy consoles, http://www.tuffyproducts.com/speaker/030.html or http://www.tuffyproducts.com/speaker/020.html

[agjohn02]

check out tuffy consoles, http://www.tuffyproducts.com/speaker/030.html or http://www.tuffyproducts.com/speaker/020.html


YIKES!

[bcolman]

they are expensive, but they last, my brother has them and they still look great after 4 or 5 years of abuse

[DRAGOONRANCH]

They must be good if one of the Super Joos of the United Jooish League bought one.

[redcagepatrol]

check out tuffy consoles, http://www.tuffyproducts.com/speaker/030.html or http://www.tuffyproducts.com/speaker/020.html
nice but they won't work with the cage "kicker" bar

[AggieTJ2007]

buy some diamond plate and make one?

[redcagepatrol]

buy some diamond plate and make one?
diamond plate is :rainbow: - unless is coated black

[85cj7]

i agree!

[AggieTJ2007]

thats what I had in mind, you could probably steal some from the 218 garage.

[RCcola55]

none here

[agjohn02]

I am looking for some type of toolbox to go on top of the fenders between the cage for stuff that will always stay in the Jeep. Any ideas? I have been looking around but can't seem to find anything "just right". The box needs to be semi-waterproof.

I have about 20" between the cage plates, 10" wide, and ~8" tall


kopecki, sell him that yellow box you have.

[redcagepatrol]

new plates! SWEET :gigem:

[william_ace]

wow, this build up was freakin sweet. scott, did you tear down the 5.3 and do anything to it? or did you just bolt it in and wire it up?

[agjohn02]

CRAWL. it's sure to fulfill your dream of getting published.

...

:gigem:

[colman]

i have the tuffy box on the fender for the cj, well made and i got the keys to match all of my other tuffy boxes. (i have 4 total). they are not cheap but they do well and are water proof (for rain or mud anyway). i like them

[redcagepatrol]

wow, this build up was freakin sweet. scott, did you tear down the 5.3 and do anything to it? or did you just bolt it in and wire it up?
I didn't even change the plugs. All stock, straight from the J-yard

[agjohn02]

now lets see a video of a smokey burnout

[redcagepatrol]

...

:gigem:
I'm going to meet them this weekend...

[agjohn02]

I'm going to meet them this weekend...


as in... "how ya doin'? im scott." "nice to meet you scott." or is this an arranged meeting involving cameras?

[redcagepatrol]

So, I had my electric fan switch in the head and it turned the fan on way too early. The coolant never even got warm. I put my dash gauge sensor in the heater hose and the needle hardly ever came of the peg.

Anyways - that wan't working for me. I had Cody add a bung at the outlet of my radiator so when the water out gets to 195, the fan will kick on. Putting the switch that low in the radiator only works with these new engines because the thermastat in on the inlet to the engine (outlet of the radiator) and not on the outlet of the engine. The coolant out really needs to be at least 195 for the thermastat to open. Anyways, I hope this works - I changed all the wiring around for it too.

The last thing for me to do before Clayton (besides get the Patrol done) is to make a better mount for the ice chest...

I also drilled and tapped the water pump for the steam vent.

[agjohn02]

i like that solution. let me know how it works.

the fan definately wont come on till after the thermostat opens now. the thermostat being in the wrong place still confuses me. it explains why i couldnt figure the system out with out researching it though.

[davido]

Get that thing working. It looks like my poop wagon will even make it. <fingers crossed>

Post more pics of your engine bay and details in the gallery when you get time. I'm curious to see how you grouped wires, etc.

[sasquatch]

whats the purpose of the steam vent?

[DRAGOONRANCH]

To vent steam maybe.

I am guessing it is like a popoff valve if I had to be a guessing man....

[robertf03]

So, I had my electric fan switch in the head and it turned the fan on way too early. The coolant never even got warm. I put my dash gauge sensor in the heater hose and the needle hardly ever came of the peg.


Scott didn't you send out your pcm for some programming? I think you could have setup the pcm to use the built in fan relay control. I don't know if its enabled stock, but it is an option in there.


I'm pretty sure I've seen a product that taps into the obd2 port and lets you hook gauges up to it, but I can't remember who makes it.

[redcagepatrol]

Scott didn't you send out your pcm for some programming? I think you could have setup the pcm to use the built in fan relay control. I don't know if its enabled stock, but it is an option in there.


I'm pretty sure I've seen a product that taps into the obd2 port and lets you hook gauges up to it, but I can't remember who makes it.
That was a mistake in the beginning - I should've let them program the fans into the computor. They could've done it but it was too late after I got everything together.

[CheapJeep]

What company did you use for the programming?

[redcagepatrol]

fuel injection specialties in San Antonio

[redcagepatrol]

WTF is this?
so I took it for a spin to warm up the water so I could check the fan operation. Everything works good. The head temp stays right about 200 degrees and the fan only comes on every now and then - and only for less than 10 seconds (it really moves some air!!)

Anyways - I pulled it into the garage for it to cool down - so I could top off the coolant. Pulled the top and found this???

Its a very light foam / froth on top of the water. It's a little gritty also.
I think that this was the first time that the entire coolant system actually got up over 120 degrees - the fan was always on once the head temp got to 195 - the radiator was always cold.

My best guess is dirt and sand from inside my heater core - when I got that Jeep it seems like it came out of a sandy creek, all of the nooks and crannys (inside the frame etc...) was full of sand.

I'm plan on pulling the heater core hoses off and taking a water hose to it and see what happens - it'll have to wait till the weekend.

Also - the heater only blows semi-warm air instead of hot air...

[Doug Krebs]

Now we really know what jake was doing to the jeep!

[jerryg79]

Now we really know what jake was doing to the jeep!

:laughing: :laughing:

[JeepPhisherman]

Looks like the 2 girls 1 cup video...

[agjohn02]

maybe its junkyard mexican feces


gross! you stuck your finger in it! go wash!

[Reckless]

Looks like the jeep literally took a **** on you!

[Fredo]

You went through the entire cooling system and didn't replace a $40 heater core? Not trying to say I told you so, but that is definitely one of those "ah f*ck, why did I do that" situations. You just going to try to flush it really good or pull the cooling system all apart to clean it?

[Graystroke]

good luck trying to get that shiat out. one way I have used to get it out: ball valve and old rad hose as adapter on the outlet of the rad. fill rad up w/ water while out of the truck flat on ground. put the fill cap on the radiator and cover the inlet w/ your hand. pressure up quickly and remove your hand and close yours eyes. stuff will fly out of there. repeat many times. I even put a gauge on one of the extra bungs to make sure I didn't over pressure.

[robertf03]

that really sucks. I hope you are right about it just being sand, but that looks like more than a heater core full of crap could make.

Have you checked the oil or looked for a steam cleaned spark plug? Still have that borescope?

[Seth]

That is more than I have ever seen, but at work sometimes vehicles build up a decent amount of goop in the overflow tanks that has to be cleaned out from time to time. pull your heater hoses and fluch that out, and do the same with the rad. I bet you can get most of it out.

[tigweld]

does it have dexcool in it? if so you really need to use distilled water or flush it and use regular coolant. also if any part of your cooling system has had any regular coolant in it you need to not use dexcool. u get mud when u mix dexcool and regular antifreeze

[redcagepatrol]

interesting. I've only put dex-cool in it but the heater core might've had some regular coolant in it before. I plan on pulling it into the driveway, disconnecting everything and continually flushing it with the water hose. I'll probably fill it up with water several times, drive it warm it up and then drain again.

[redcagepatrol]

that really sucks. I hope you are right about it just being sand, but that looks like more than a heater core full of crap could make.

Have you checked the oil or looked for a steam cleaned spark plug? Still have that borescope?
the oil fill cap and oil looks brand new, still nice and clear / clean

[tigweld]

I am not a fan of dexcool, It can cause a lot more wierd stuff to happen than regular coolant. I have heard of ppl installing some sort of phosphorus anode or something to help with the electrollisis that dexcool is know to generate when mixed with sediment.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

I am sure you will collect all coolant and dispose of properly. ;) <----- For those that accused me of being a hippy. :flipoff2:


I have seen some pretty nasty goop in radiators before, but that is by far the worst. I don't doubt it is mostly sediment. The flush will probably do it a world of good.

[agjohn02]

it looks like radiator stop leak to me. i had to put that stuff in my brand new rad in the scout when a fan ate it.

[redcagepatrol]

I have seen some pretty nasty goop in radiators before, but that is by far the worst. I don't doubt it is mostly sediment. The flush will probably do it a world of good.
It's really not goopy, just a foam or froth - like bubbles in a bubble bath. I stuck my finger in thinking that it was thick but it just went through. The water was right below and I was able to stirr the foam into the water to make it dissapear

[DRAGOONRANCH]

We have cleaned out equipment radiators that looked like somebody poured a bucket of sand in them, and the way you describe it is what they were like.

[BMFScout]

Man, I hope that's not oil. :fingerscrossed:

[redcagepatrol]

so I drained all it all and took the water hose nozzle and sprayed thru the heater core, heater hoses, water pump, and radiator. Took it for a drive to warm it up again, let it cool and it's looking better.

I drained it all again and repeated the process - it's cooling down right now...

Good thing that I "worked" from home today :flipoff2:

As for disposing of the coolant properly? this is the correct way right? To put it in perspective, Kolpecky just moved into a house about a block away in our neighborhood - so it's ok to drain in the driveway around here :gigem:

[Doug Krebs]

smell my finger :flipoff2:

[BMFScout]

does that sh!t smell like oil?

Which doesn't mean much if it is, the previous engine could have had oil in the water, and gotten into the heater core.

[Seth]

that third pic is just funny. I'll have to take a pic at work someday of what we do.

[redcagepatrol]

so should I put Dex-Cool back in or normal coolant?

no - it doesn't smell like oil

[Seth]

I would think dexcool, supposedly there is something in the new motors (seals etc?) that doesnt mix well with green. I am no expert though. You could get a few jugs of the "goes in any car" kind, that way you will always be able to get some at any walmart! At 8 bucks plus a gallon, I would try to figure it out for good first.

[tigweld]

it will do that again if you put dexcool in it just use regular coolant. there is no performance benefit to dexcool.

[tigweld]

does that sh!t smell like oil?

from my oil/water mix experimention I have allways found it to look more like a milkshake than a brown froth like his. I also have seen the brown froth dexcool/regular coolant/tapwater mixture type stuff in bryce's radiator in his s-10 just last week. :flipoff2:

[BMFScout]

I can't imagine Bryce having maintenance issues with a vehicle!

[tigweld]

yup you know I ain't fixin' his shiat

[Seth]

Interesting (http://www.getahelmet.com/jeeps/maint/dexcool/)

[tigweld]

distilled water is the key

[redcagepatrol]

Get that thing working. It looks like my poop wagon will even make it. <fingers crossed>

Post more pics of your engine bay and details in the gallery when you get time. I'm curious to see how you grouped wires, etc.
David, see the Patrol thread for this, I posted on there by accident and don't feel like re-posting here...

[agjohn02]

nope - it's just 10 bolts and we don't plan on taking it off very often - just fold it down...


maybe make the next one easily removeable? i can make you some pins when i make mine if you want.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

zinG??!?

:flipoff2:

[redcagepatrol]

maybe make the next one easily removeable? i can make you some pins when i make mine if you want.
Yes please :gigem:

Although, I doubt we would've taken it off on this trip. It's nice to have for driving to the trail on the "main road". It blocks most of the dust from getting into our faces

[agjohn02]

scott, have you played with the line lock any? is it a check valve or a regular valve? as in, when you lock it then press the brakes does it brake the rear and when you press the brakes then lock it does it keep the front locked?

[redcagepatrol]

Hmm, I've never tried the first scenerio to see it's a check or not. I'll have to try and let you know - I think that it acts as a valve though.

[agjohn02]

I think that it acts as a valve though.

thats what ive been reading, but i still see people use two of them...

[agjohn02]

i was thinking about the oil issue today. how long did the engine run upside down? at idle the PCV is pulling a pretty good vacuum and oil should run into the valve cover pretty quickly. the PCV was sucking oil into the manifold and filling it up while it was upside down. thats the only way i can see that much oil getting in there that quickly. theres no way that much oil got past piston rings and through an open valve. luckily it was nose down and ran out the filter. if it had been nose up it would have sat in the manifold until you flipped it back over and then filled the cylinders.

just run the PCV on the valve cover to a breather and cap the port on the TB. then roll it again and see if its any different.

[redcagepatrol]

then roll it again and see if its any different.
I'm not sure about that part...

It was running upside down for - at most 5 seconds.

What about the other hose that attaches to the top of the TB? The hose with the PCV valve is on the driver side and comes into the middle of the mainfold

[agjohn02]

im trying to remember what it looks like. ive got the f-body manifold on mine now. ill look at the truck manifold when i get to the shop.

[redcagepatrol]

look on page 50
http://www.tamor.org/forums/showthread.php?t=6982&page=50&pp=15

the hose on the passenger sid - top of the throttle body goes directly into the passenger side valve cover, no PCV valve

[agjohn02]

look on page 50
http://www.tamor.org/forums/showthread.php?t=6982&page=50&pp=15

the hose on the passenger sid - top of the throttle body goes directly into the passenger side valve cover, no PCV valve


thats the one i was referring to. the f-body manifold doesnt have the port on top of the manifold so i forgot about the one coming from the driver's side.

[agjohn02]

i forgot about checking the manifold out. will do it tomorrow maybe...

messed with the line lock any? get out there in the front yard and try it out.

i thought of a good burn and decided to put it here instead of pirate.

you should have powdercoated this thing pink too, because its gonna fold up like a pair of panties the first time it sits down on a rock. :flipoff2:

http://tamor.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=10951&stc=1

http://tamor.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=10952&stc=1

[DRAGOONRANCH]

needs more triangulation....

[DRAGOONRANCH]

I would really listen to John on this one, he knows about how limp some things can get...

[bburris]

I would really listen to John on this one, he knows about how limp some things can get...
Like Ed's wrist!

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Zing!!!

[redcagepatrol]

[QUOTE=agjohn02]i forgot about checking the manifold out. will do it tomorrow maybe...

messed with the line lock any? get out there in the front yard and try it out.

i thought of a good burn and decided to put it here instead of pirate.

you should have powdercoated this thing pink too, because its gonna fold up like a pair of panties the first time it sits down on a rock. :flipoff2:
QUOTE]
look how close that skid is to the front axle. It's barely possible to even hit the pan on a rock. The front axle would have to clear it first and it's never going to hit.

Part II - the only way that the oil pan will crack will be from a "point" syle impact (a sharp point going into the middle of it). Even if for some reason, a rock was able to get past the frame, leaf springs, driveshaft, and front axle to bend the skid plate up - it will hit the oil pan as a flat surface and distribute the load across the entire oil pan. The majority of the energy from the hit will be absorbed in the bending of the skid support arms resulting in a minimal amount of force hitting the oil pan.

I have been wheeling pretty hard for over ten years and have only brushed my oil pan a few times. Take a look under anybody's rig that has 10 plus years of hard wheeling and check out the damage to the oil pan - it will be minimal - it's just really hard to hit - you never line up rocks down the center of your rig because you'll just hit it on your rear diff.

Like every decesion made in life, it's based on risk. This risk is minimal, and the protection on that risk is adaquate.

On a side note - I have seen one crack on Greg's low slung buggy, it just oozed oil in a slow drip, nothing to stop you on the trail.

[agjohn02]

decent arguement. i just couldnt resist. :)

[redcagepatrol]

i was thinking about the oil issue today. how long did the engine run upside down? at idle the PCV is pulling a pretty good vacuum and oil should run into the valve cover pretty quickly. the PCV was sucking oil into the manifold and filling it up while it was upside down. thats the only way i can see that much oil getting in there that quickly. theres no way that much oil got past piston rings and through an open valve. luckily it was nose down and ran out the filter. if it had been nose up it would have sat in the manifold until you flipped it back over and then filled the cylinders.

just run the PCV on the valve cover to a breather and cap the port on the TB. then roll it again and see if its any different.

Ok, so what's the consensus on this?
The driver side has a "check valve" on it at the valve cover, but the passenger side crankcase vent doesn't have anything. Should I add a check valve on that side or just plug it?

[jerryg79]

:gigem:this thing needs to tear up spring creek (again? has it been there before?), let's plan a trip out there for the club

[DRAGOONRANCH]

:gigem:this thing needs to tear up spring creek (again? has it been there before?), let's plan a trip out there for the club



http://www.tamor.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9786

;)

[agjohn02]

scott, do you still have the piece you cut out of the bottom of your ford 60 or did you make it into lots of little chips?

[redcagepatrol]

scott, do you still have the piece you cut out of the bottom of your ford 60 or did you make it into lots of little chips?

little chips from the mill

[redcagepatrol]

it's in Crawl - first one in the Average Joe section

[william_ace]

i saw it, thought that was pretty cool

[BMFScout]

Dammit, I wanted to be first to report it!! Congrats Shubrings! That supersick Sunray Landcruiser buggy we saw in Clayton a couple years back is in there too.

[redcagepatrol]

There's a two page pic of the rig in the Petersons Readers Rigs mag that is on the stands right now.

I noticed it at a gas station today:gigem: Cool stuff!

[BMFScout]

your going to catch the st.john's on mag coverage pretty soon! congrats!

[DRAGOONRANCH]

There's a two page pic of the rig in the Petersons Readers Rigs mag that is on the stands right now.

I noticed it at a gas station today:gigem: Cool stuff!

R (and it was of yourself???)

:rolleyes:


look in the Petersons Readers Rig magazine that is out right now, we have a nice two page shot from this event!

:flipoff2:

[redcagepatrol]

but in a different thread...

[AggieTJ2007]

I searched through enough of the thread, but are these the hubs and brakes that you used

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=322657

[DRAGOONRANCH]

There's a two page pic of the rig in the Petersons Readers Rigs mag that is on the stands right now.

I noticed it at a gas station today:gigem: Cool stuff!

This issue finally made it over here. :gigem:

I am gonna bring it back and get Lynda to autograph it for me. :D

[Lynda]

This issue finally made it over here. :gigem:

I am gonna bring it back and get Lynda to autograph it for me. :D

I would LOVE to autogrpah it for you ;)

[redcagepatrol]

so Lynda mentioned that I rolled her Jeep....

I was in the neighborhood "pond" area that Kolpecky loves:rolleyes:

[redcagepatrol]

windshield frame is toast.

Other than that, there is a dent in the hood and the windshield hinges are a little bent - cowl where the passenger side hinge mounts is bent pretty good.

Just another day at the Schubeing home - now I have to fix it... I have a new windshield frame, just need to but the paint and get that painted and bolted back on

[BMFScout]

Please tell me you were doing donuts/cyclones. I've almost rolled the Belle a few times doing that.

[redcagepatrol]

Please tell me you were doing donuts/cyclones. I've almost rolled the Belle a few times doing that.

yes - turned steering wheel, stepped on gas - started slidding, hit rut, rolled over. Happened that fast

[mudtoy67]

This is why we can't have nice things.:flipoff2:

[AggieTJ2007]

interesting, far to many people have rolled doing doughnuts, Cook will be next

[DRAGOONRANCH]

He has to find some new tires first. ;)

Looks like everybody was alright atleast. :gigem:

[BMFScout]

I bet Lynda was stoked! That is awesome! I was doing donuts one day behind my buddies house in this big field. When I got done I drove up to where he was standing. He said, "Your inside tire was in the air the whole time." The next time I did donuts I looked, he was right!

[redcagepatrol]

I bet Lynda was stoked!

Ahhh - yeah - stoked - that's how it worked out....

[J Cooper]

good times...

scott goes the extra mile for the interns :flipoff2:

[agjohn02]

sorry to hear that scott.

you can fix it, you have the technology.

[redcagepatrol]

sorry to hear that scott.

you can fix it, you have the technology.

What is that? Windshield pin?

[agjohn02]

grainger, "ball lock pin", 7/16" iirc, requires some enlarging of the holes though.

[agjohn02]

check your e-mail

[Lynda]

[QUOTE=BMFScout;204326]I bet Lynda was stoked! QUOTE]

Yeah, I'm really regretting having sold George. Scott has completely taken ownership of this thing and it doesn't even feel like mine. I didn't have much of a hand in working on this one so I havn't built a bond like I had with George. Watching Scott single handedly destroy another project of his really pisses me off. At least I don't have to hear him cry again if or when I roll the Jeep. Whatever I do to roll the Jeep will not be quite as bad as rolling it within the first two minutes of taking it out. At least when I rolled it I was on a trail (...to a trail).

[BMFScout]

[QUOTE=BMFScout;204326]I bet Lynda was stoked! QUOTE]

Yeah, I'm really regretting having sold George. Scott has completely taken ownership of this thing and it doesn't even feel like mine. I didn't have much of a hand in working on this one so I havn't built a bond like I had with George. Watching Scott single handedly destroy another project of his really pisses me off. At least I don't have to hear him cry again if or when I roll the Jeep. Whatever I do to roll the Jeep will not be quite as bad as rolling it within the first two minutes of taking it out. At least when I rolled it I was on a trail (...to a trail).

For some reason I was reminded of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXskW2VvfC0&feature=related

[Fredo]

Yikes. Sorry Lynda. Vaya Con Dios Jorge'(HOR-HEY)

[agjohn02]

sell the patrol, buy a stock YJ, a bag of parts and some non-pink rattle cans... have fun honey! love ya!

[davido]

Yeah, I bet Scott really misses working on it on the side of the trail.

[Lynda]

Hey I worked on that Jeep just as much as he did...he just did trail fixes when he thought I was too slow. I cant' help I have midget muscles.

Anyways, his broke down far more than mine ever did.

[BMFScout]

I thought I'd have to visit The State Fair of Texas (runs 11/26-10/19, www.bigtex.com) to see a show this good! :flipoff2:;)

[agjohn02]

Hey I worked on that Jeep just as much as he did...he just did trail fixes when he thought I was too slow. I cant' help I have midget muscles.

Anyways, his broke down far more than mine ever did.

go fix that windshield then

[agjohn02]

grainger, "ball lock pin", 7/16" iirc, requires some enlarging of the holes though.

your mishap reminded me that i needed to order these pins. i gave the internet a good look this morning and i cant find any push button ball locks in the right size. i ended up ordering spring loaded ball locks from mcmaster, p/n 94975A659. 7/16" dia with a 3.5" grip length. these are much cheaper anyhow.

[redcagepatrol]

your mishap reminded me that i needed to order these pins. i gave the internet a good look this morning and i cant find any push button ball locks in the right size. i ended up ordering spring loaded ball locks from mcmaster, p/n 94975A659. 7/16" dia with a 3.5" grip length. these are much cheaper anyhow.

Wouldn't you want the 4" one so that the balls pop out on the other side and the pin stays in? My hinge measures 3.75" edge to edge.

[agjohn02]

it wont measure that after you get the welds ground out.

i wanted it to look like it was meant to fit so i ground them down to 3.5". the 4" would be easier i guess.

[redcagepatrol]

why not drill them out?

[agjohn02]

because its an uneven surface. didnt want to try to get a drill to run straight. you can do that if you want. grind it flat at least.

[85cj7]

hey scott, do you happen to have anymore pics of your fuel cell, also is this the one you went with? http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=RCI%2D2161AD&view=1&N=700+4294925239+4294839036+4294920243+4294903827
Because i was thinking of just placing it in the bed for the time being, but eventually do what you did. Thanks

[redcagepatrol]

It's 9" tall and 12" wide - and not powdercoated.

[redcagepatrol]

I had to move it all the way back because the axle is moved back

[85cj7]

and you don't have any problems having your in-line pump on the frame rail having to pull all that distance and lower than the tank?

[redcagepatrol]

no - it's supposed to be lower than the tank... I put it as low as I could on the frame rail and that was the first place I could put it...

Long story short, no problems, works great!

[eight]

I found a new place to roll this. They're doing some work on one of drainage areas down the river. Excavators can make some pretty good wheeling terrain.

[redcagepatrol]

I found a new place to roll this. They're doing some work on one of drainage areas down the river. Excavators can make some pretty good wheeling terrain.

awsome - it's still dirty from Spring Creek, we should go check it out...

[eight]

now?

[redcagepatrol]

ahh, no, Lynda might not like that. I'm drinking a Saint Arnold Stout on the couch right now and don't feel like leaving

[sasquatch]

interesting, far to many people have rolled doing doughnuts, Cook will be next

uhhh ****....

[FJAggie07]

uhhh ****....

Were you doing a search for Cook and Doughnuts?

[redcagepatrol]

I wonder if he has any more predictions? This could be fun!

[redcagepatrol]

so I weighed my ride on the way to Clayton and after unloading in Houston.
21,100 gross with both rigs, full ice chests, cloths for weekend, tools, etc...
13,360 gross unloaded
=7,740
~3,500 Patrol
=4,240 Jeep, full ice chests, and cloths bags

So - I'm guessing the Jeep weighs around 4,100

[Seth]

The Jeep is street legal - you could just take it to some scales by itself with no chadnutz math involved :)

[redcagepatrol]

good call - I might have to do that. I wasn't that interested - I only weighed the combo because Keisewetter wanted me to so he could scam the goverment out of some money for moving to NC...

[DRAGOONRANCH]

:laughing: The military loves their paperwork!

[AggieTJ2007]

What headers did you use?

[redcagepatrol]

I think I got them from Advance Adapters. Not sure I would get them again - but they did fit well and don't leak.

[AggieTJ2007]

What are you going to run on the 6.0l. I am thinking about just some summit brand block huggers. Any problems with them fitting?

[redcagepatrol]

i doubt it. Any block headers should be fine. I don't know what I will run, but it will more than likely be something cheap like the summit brand.

[AggieTJ2007]

where did you get your f-body oil pan from?

[redcagepatrol]

where did you get your f-body oil pan from?
I got it online someplace - like Chevyautoparts.com or something.
I've done more research since then and I won't be putting that pan on my 6.0 because there are no baffles. I plan on the Kelvco pan with trap doors and a remote filter.

[AggieTJ2007]

I got it online someplace - like Chevyautoparts.com or something.
I've done more research since then and I won't be putting that pan on my 6.0 because there are no baffles. I plan on the Kelvco pan with trap doors and a remote filter.

yeah after a little me research I probably will too, the price is not that much different

[tigweld]

have either of you seen the kevco pan in person, it is a pile

better solution is stock pan and
http://www.improvedracing.com/product_info.php?products_id=30

[redcagepatrol]

have either of you seen the kevco pan in person, it is a pile

better solution is stock pan and
http://www.improvedracing.com/product_info.php?products_id=30

Hmm - more options. I was just starting to like the idea of having a steel pan too.

[Busa]

PSC sales those now.

[redcagepatrol]

Modification note: I moved the PS can from the grill to the engine to allow the can to move with the engine and eliminate the risk of pinching the suction hose - thus causing pressure and blowing out the pump "can" seal.

[redcagepatrol]

Another update to her rig: I redid the front U-bolt plates for 5/8" U- bolts. Both centerpins were broken and the plates were bent. I also reienforced the spring perches a little at they were starting to bend some. I started to make a front anti-wrap bar but got sidetracked with packing bearings while I waited for a weld to cool.

We leave for Colorado on Thursday morning, I don't think I will get the antiwrap bar done by then. It's possible but not sure I want to push that hard with all of the other crap I have to get done.

[KrazyKarl02]

Did you have 9/16" U bolts before? Did they loosen up or stretch or something?

[redcagepatrol]

I had 1/2" before. They would stretch or bend the plates between runs. The grade 8 washers under the nuts have the form of the nut deforming them

[KrazyKarl02]

Interesting, the klogger is rolling with 9/16" bolts and I made the front plates out of 1/4" plate with a 90 degree angle at front and back to prevent bending. Have to see how it works. The rear are stock plates that I welded an additional piece of 1/4" plate to.

In addition, my uncle has a pocket knife.

[JB]

Who all is wheeling in Colorado?

[redcagepatrol]

My family, the Busa family, the Higgs family, the Lynn (Rj / Ash) family, and Hippie is going to meet up with us.

[davido]

Tell everyone hi. Send pics!

[Lynda]

Sucks you aren't coming this year, your munchkins would have fun and I havn't seen Whitney in a while.

[davido]

Me too. Couldn't swing it with the wedding, honeymoon, and FL trip. This will have to suffice for our quota of mountains this summer:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-pvNccygFKP0/Tg1qemwz5NI/AAAAAAAAgf4/egVTSYZFt2s/s1024/IMG_6534.JPG

Keep posting pics!

[85cj7]

What brake master and booster did you end up going with?

Thanks

[KrazyKarl02]

What brake master and booster did you end up going with?

Thanks

If my memory is correct I think he used like a 1968 Vette Master Cylinder.

[redcagepatrol]

yes, that is correct. works great with some minor modifications to make it fit. I think the booster is a stock YJ one, master is vette.

[85cj7]

yes, that is correct. works great with some minor modifications to make it fit. I think the booster is a stock YJ one, master is vette.

mmm. same set up as me but my definitely is less than desirable. I need to double check everything. I also think the diaphragm in the booster might be failing or have failed. I'll throw money at it and see if it fixes it.

[Fredo]

Checking the diaphragm is as easy as putting vacuum to it. If it doesn't hold a vacuum, it's bad.

As far as the master cylinder, you can get one of these.

http://www.shop.sachserodshop.com/product.sc?productId=1338&categoryId=466