THE Fj Cruiser.

[FJAggie07]

Per request I am throwing up some specs on my wonderful ride I am so proud of.
I have a 2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser, Black with the White top. Her name is Lucille (After BB King's Black and White Gibson Guitar).
Some Stock Specs:
4.0L V6 with about 239 HP and 279 ft-lb torque
5 speed AT
4x4 with Rear Locking differential (electronic)
Solid Rear with IFS up front

Modifications To Date:
-A-Trac (Kinda like Limited Slip)
-Crossed some wires in the computer to make the A-trac work in the front while the rear is locked down.
-285 70/17 BFG AT's
-3" Toytec lift with OME front springs and a half in spacer to kill the rake, Toytec "custom" springs in back with procomp shocks.
-Added a 12V plug to the center consule
-Running boards just because they were free
-Most important Mod: Hacked the computer to disable an annoying seat belt chime!

This is all I can think of off the top of my head, but here is Lucille in the making:
Here is the Day after I brought her home:
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/lucille2.jpg
Here is her first time swimming:
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/IMG_1023.jpg
Here is the limitations of the piece of sh!t 265 bridgestones that came on it...
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/swamp10.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/swamp9.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/IMG_0958.jpg
Here she is after I installed the BFG's:
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/IMG_1056.jpg
And here she is after I put her facelift on her:
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/IMG_1063.jpg

[FJAggie07]

Future Mods:

-Replacement Front Bumper and Warn winch (either All-Pro or Landcruiser NW)
-Rock Rails (either All-Pro or Bent-up)
-All Pro replacement back bumper
-Light Bar for roof rack (either the one Toyota is promising will be out soon with an Air Dam or just a regular light bar)
-Magna-Flow CAT back exhaust system
-K&N Air Filter

And One Day down the road...
-TRD SuperCharger
-Walker Evans Coil Overs

[redcagepatrol]

I can't think of the right words to describe this - lets try this: buy a beater, keep that on the street? I guess if you have the money it's fine with me :gigem:

[FJAggie07]

I can't think of the right words to describe this - lets try this: buy a beater, keep that on the street? I guess if you have the money it's fine with me :gigem:

Ah i wish my friend I wish. I dont have the money for both right now. Soooo I am going to wheel this and try to keep it in as best shape as i can... I already got some love marks from this weekend but thanks to a high speed buffer this afternoon they are almost invisible.

[Seth]

amaxing how lift improves he look of that truck. kinda like a new jeep.

also i bet fab fours makes bumpers for that truck now

[AggieTJ2007]

don't take it off-road, ill let you drive my jeep, keep that thing pretty, No one wants to make payments on a trail rig. Ask me how I know

[redcagepatrol]

amaxing how lift improves he look of that truck. kinda like a new jeep.

also i bet fab fours makes bumpers for that truck now
they do and they are selling pretty good - I talked to RJ yesterday.
go to www.fabfours.com or see them on the Ultimate Adventure FJC on the Petersons website: http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/2006ultimateadventure/

[davido]

That's pretty tough looking. I wouldn't beat on it too hard. The money you have to put back into it would buy a starter Sammy.

[FJAggie07]

they do and they are selling pretty good - I talked to RJ yesterday.
go to www.fabfours.com or see them on the Ultimate Adventure FJC on the Petersons website: http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/2006ultimateadventure/

I like the fab fours, but it isn't my favorite. The bumpers right now that I am trying to decide from are as follows, Ya'll tell me what you think (of course all of these in black to match my FJ):
All-Pro
http://www.allprooffroad.com/images/stories/dsc_0629.jpg
ARB Bull Bar
http://www.sleeoffroad.com/products/images/arb/arb_fj_800.jpg
Bent-Up
http://www.bentup.com/FJ/photo91.jpg
Demello Off Road
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/1184/demllobumperte2.png
Expedition One
http://www.phatserver.net/~expeditionone/upload/fjfb1.jpg
FAB FOUR
http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3001&d=1154219275
Landcruiser NW
http://revtek.com/img/toyota/trucks/Toyota_FJ003_640x480.jpg
Warn
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4655/fj1ps9.png
My Own design (solidworks design, photochopped kinda rough idea, if somebody has a welder down here this could become a TAMOR project ;))
http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3330&d=1155056283

I am leaning towards the All-Pro, Demello, or Landcruiser NW. What do ya'll like?
And I am going to wheel this bad boy, it is too capable not too, I just have to know my limits and am not going to do any body damage too it or take it places it can't really handle...

[DRAGOONRANCH]

All-Pro: Looks good, but dont like the bolt on grill
ARB: Looks light duty to me, and have heard lots of horror stories of ARB's
Bent-Up: Looks b!tch!n, like the tow points too
DO: Another that looks light duty, and dont care for the cut-outs
Exp. One: Like the tow points
Fab Four: If its as heavy as it looks, then might be a good buy, like the recessed lights
L NW: Very different than the rest, might be alright in black on yours, but hard to imagine with all the yellow on that one!
Warn: Not bad, but fog lights won't last 2 minutes on trail. No attatchment points, warn should know better.
Brown Custom: I always did like the big pipe bumpers, but thats just the redneck in me. :flipoff2:


Just remember, its your money, you spend it how you want. Don't let some of these knuckleheads here tell you how to spend it. Build it, wheel it, break it, repair it, repeat.........

[uglyota]

at the risk of beating a dead horse...
you should be able to pick up a sammi or yota beater for the cost of one of those bumpers ;)
glad to see an FJ Cruiser that goes off-road, should be fun!

[agjohn02]

i like the fab fours but me thinks it needs a grill bar of some type.

[JB]

I like the Bent-UP. Fab Fours looks heavy/bulky but I like it and they are also old TAMOR guys

[FJAggie07]

I like the Bent-UP. Fab Fours looks heavy/bulky but I like it and they are also old TAMOR guys
oh really?!?! I didn't know that... hmm I might be looking at the Fab Four in a different light...

...especially if they want to help a college kid out who is paying for his truck and college off a single job...I am so in debt...

[agjohn02]

oh really?!?! I didn't know that... hmm I might be looking at the Fab Four in a different light...

...especially if they want to help a college kid out who is paying for his truck and college off a single job...I am so in debt...

search for fab fours

http://tamor.org/forums/search.php?searchid=198315


http://tamor.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3477&highlight=fab+fours

[uglyota]

uh, they won't even put a TAMOR sticker on their comp rig...good luck with a TAMOR discount :D
I like the all-poo one

[redcagepatrol]

oh really?!?! I didn't know that... hmm I might be looking at the Fab Four in a different light...

...especially if they want to help a college kid out who is paying for his truck and college off a single job...I am so in debt...
the'll give you a discount - as long as you tell your friends...

They (the Fab Fours guys) will be in San Antonio this weekend for the Army / ATM game.

[redcagepatrol]

uh, they won't even put a TAMOR sticker on their comp rig...good luck with a TAMOR discount :D
I like the all-poo one
That was Troy

[uglyota]

wasn't he driving for Greg at the time?

[redcagepatrol]

yep - but he was in charge of the "sponsors" I don't think that Greg would mind having a sensibly sized TAMOR sticker on the rig - or at least a Former Student Association sticker

[uglyota]

oh, my bad then. sorry about the hijack

[FJAggie07]

Thats sad i can't get a discount thru TAMOR with them but I can through my FJ Cruiser forum....

[uglyota]

wonder which forum they're more likely to sell bumpers to? ;)
Like Scott said, call and ask. Greg's cool

[CheapJeep]

I like the All-Pro, DO, and Expedition One. You can wheel your FJ and still keep it nice, just know your limits.

[Reckless]

Unlike Creighton...

[CheapJeep]

Well Creighton's just a bad example...people run away scared when they see his Jeep.

[Reckless]

Try riding with him

[FJAggie07]

I like the All-Pro, DO, and Expedition One. You can wheel your FJ and still keep it nice, just know your limits.

I have seen the All Pro in person and it was a lot heavier than i thought. I really like the Demello Offroad but they are in the middle of moving their shop and having a hard time getting them made and shipped out. As far as wheeling the FJ, just ask frick and his girl, they liked being in the AC on sunday ;)

Yeah I just need to know my limits, and ya'lls help for that matter in judging what the FJ should tackle and what it shouldn't. It definately surprised me sunday with what it could do and makes me want more!

[CheapJeep]

There's trails for pretty much everyone at most event's we go to. So no worries. The FF bumper is nice too, although I like some of the other's that have a grill hoop.

[mark]

Oh boy. Now we can have the showdown of the rice burning grocery getters. I'll have mine in town this very week.

-Old Man

[FJAggie07]

Oh boy. Now we can have the showdown of the rice burning grocery getters. I'll have mine in town this very week.

-Old Man

ouch...

[uglyota]

ouch...
no kidding...he compared your croozer to an x-terra :flipoff2:

[JB]

So what happened with the Fab Fours bumper on Ultimate Adventure? I just read about it in 4W&O

[Sharpe]

If you want to take a stab at making your own bumper we have a welder at my house. I am going to have to start collecting money for torch gas and wire use though...

[redcagepatrol]

So what happened with the Fab Fours bumper on Ultimate Adventure? I just read about it in 4W&O
it flew off...

Greg grabbed some thin tubing at 3:00 am to mount a Jeep bumper to the Sami and the tubing ripped apart... Way to get your name in the funniest section about 20 times...

[8Runner]

oh really?!?! I didn't know that... hmm I might be looking at the Fab Four in a different light...

...especially if they want to help a college kid out who is paying for his truck and college off a single job...I am so in debt...

Like I said Sunday, I'll be up there the 21st-24th and would be glad to bring one back with me to save you the shipping...

[TxCruzr]

All-Pro: Looks good, but dont like the bolt on grill
ARB: Looks light duty to me, and have heard lots of horror stories of ARB's
Bent-Up: Looks b!tch!n, like the tow points too
DO: Another that looks light duty, and dont care for the cut-outs
Exp. One: Like the tow points
Fab Four: If its as heavy as it looks, then might be a good buy, like the recessed lights
L NW: Very different than the rest, might be alright in black on yours, but hard to imagine with all the yellow on that one!
Warn: Not bad, but fog lights won't last 2 minutes on trail. No attatchment points, warn should know better.

Ed about summed it up. All Pro is a great company now that grieger has left, but like Ed said, the bolt on hoop is kinda....yeah. They also have the larger hoop which is kinda different.
The Bent Up one looks pretty sweet along with the Expedition One.
The FabFours looks really beefy but doesn't have any protection for the lights or hood. I'm not sure what kind of discount they'll give, but they're kinda pricey.
APOR also has a pretty sweet looking rear bumper.

I thought Marlin was supposed to be getting a FJ and come out with some stuff but maybe I'm confusing that with All Pro.
Best looking FJC in town :gigem:

[Seth]

i like the expo one - the bent up one is cool but not sure how i like the headlight rings. i would get specs on material thickness on them - and prices. if they are big diff in price that could def sway me. also talk to the biz and see how helpful they are.

i also noticed how much print rj and greg got - pretty cool

[Fredo]

Oh boy. Now we can have the showdown of the rice burning grocery getters. I'll have mine in town this very week.

-Old Man

Nice play! Speaking of which, when was the last time you took Norm out wheeling?

[Chadnutz]

My .02 for which I won't argue if you disagree.

1. Do not use credit cards.

2. I like the three you have chosen. Right now, with them all looking good an none of the three sticking out, you need to factor in price AND how far each of them stick out from the front of the truck. Approach angle is huge in rock crawling.

3. Don't worry about that so-called performance ****. (cat back, k&n, etc) If you are going to wheel something that nice, you NEED protection. Before you go on any real trips (and damange your current armor), I'd get front and rear bumpers and rock sliders. Keep your stockers nice so you can Ebay them to recover some cost.

4. Ride with someone in Clayton, OK this October to see what goes on during a REAL trip.

[Fredo]

...I won't argue if you disagree.

:laughing: yeah right! :flipoff2:

[Chadnutz]

:laughing: yeah right! :flipoff2:

Dude, whatever.. You don't know anything. :rolleyes:


















:flipoff2:

[FJAggie07]

My .02 for which I won't argue if you disagree.

1. Do not use credit cards.

2. I like the three you have chosen. Right now, with them all looking good an none of the three sticking out, you need to factor in price AND how far each of them stick out from the front of the truck. Approach angle is huge in rock crawling.

3. Don't worry about that so-called performance ****. (cat back, k&n, etc) If you are going to wheel something that nice, you NEED protection. Before you go on any real trips (and damange your current armor), I'd get front and rear bumpers and rock sliders. Keep your stockers nice so you can Ebay them to recover some cost.

4. Ride with someone in Clayton, OK this October to see what goes on during a REAL trip.

I agree with ya, on the rock sliders and the bumper and protection mods. I dont put much stock in performance pieces on this rig, at least not until the warranty is up.

I DO NOT agree with you on credit cards. I believe that if you have a card you pay off every month it helps build your credit and you have to have a certain amount of self control with your money, something i have not seen thus far from many people at our school. Me, I tend to do pretty well for my money, I am a senior, haven't taken a loan yet, school is getting paid for, and I am making the monthly payment on this FJ too. Mainly because of credit cards and qualifying for great financing.

I do hope to go to Clayton with ya'll and see some rock crawling.

[Chadnutz]

By don't use them, I mean don't run up a balance. I understand the benefits of good credit. I did , afterall, get a new house right out of college that is too much of a chunk of my income. I owe that to credit cards and building up credit, I guess. :flipoff2:

[jerryg79]

so is don't "use your credit cards" the new "don't wheel a full-size"?

[Sharpe]

so is don't "use your credit cards" the new "don't wheel a full-size"?
I say FVCK both of those! :flipoff2:

[mark]

Nice play! Speaking of which, when was the last time you took Norm out wheeling?

Its been about a year. But will be going again in October, hopefully.

-Mark

[BMFScout]

Its been about a year. But will be going again in October, hopefully.

-Mark

2nd Annual TAMOR Trail Oktoberfest in Gilmer??!?

[FJAggie07]

I cringed when I opened this thread. Stop wheeling the FJ now, nothing good will come from this.

Wow I really didn't think i would be met with such pessimistic outlooks from this group. Maybe it looks like I wasted my 35 bucks by joining an organization that would rather see me sit on the sidelines than have a little fun. I guess you all must think I am crazy for doing this, thats fine. Ain't nothing going to stop me from wheeling this thing. I bought it for one thing, and one thing only, to take it OFF ROAD. Now I am going to keep on treating it nice and not damage it too much, but I just didn't expect so many people to kick my dream in the gut.

If you think i am crazy for wheeling this, Then take a look what I did this summer. I took a stock lexus GX470 to 13,000 ft and back up engineer's pass at the Alpine Loop in Colorado. Some pretty steep climbs, some really big rocks, but I used the vehicle for what is meant for, off roading...
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/Cinamonpass.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/engineerspass2.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/engineerspass.jpg

[JeepPhisherman]

A lexus was meant for offroading?!?!
Good thing I'm looking at getting an IS next year

[agjohn02]

Wow I really didn't think i would be met with such pessimistic outlooks from this group.


thats the norm around here. get used to it and its a rather fun group to be around. dont take anything personally, unless it's coming from jerry. he's the resident offender. :flipoff2:

[Doug Krebs]

Wow I really didn't think i would be met with such pessimistic outlooks from this group. Maybe it looks like I wasted my 35 bucks by joining an organization that would rather see me sit on the sidelines than have a little fun. I guess you all must think I am crazy for doing this, thats fine. Ain't nothing going to stop me from wheeling this thing. I bought it for one thing, and one thing only, to take it OFF ROAD. Now I am going to keep on treating it nice and not damage it too much, but I just didn't expect so many people to kick my dream in the gut.



Dude take it easy. We'd love to see you beat the **** out of it! :flipoff2: Seriously though, some of us have been down this road and know the final result. From the way I saw you wheel at 47 I predict this thing will look like creighton's jeep in a year.

If you wheel it, accidents will happen, period. I'm not talking scratches either.

I cringe at the thought of getting dents in my 96 F150. This is what most of us are getting at, Why take the risk of beating up a brand new vehicle? It's much more fun to buy something older and not worry about it.

Either way, I'll support the thrashing.

[bburris]

We aren't trying to piss in your Cheerios, so don't get upset. There are just a few of us that have lightly played with vehicles that were our daily drivers that still had payments to be made, and we have all seen it more than enough times...

I started out with a stock TJ that started to get modified during my freshman year, and by my sophomore year it was dying on a weekly basis and by that Christmas I HAD to have a second vehicle.

All of that was a result of ONE trip to Alto in which I sank it in a puddle that looked smaller than it was. We aren't trying to discourage you from taking it offroad or modifying it. We are trying to make sure you don't get too far in to modifying a vehicle and then regretting it in a few months when you realize you have a vehicle that should be in perfect shape but isn't.

You seem sensible, so just keep things normal and don't try anything unless you're ok with the possible outcome. If all else fails, I'm sure you have full coverage insurance... :D

[FJAggie07]

Oh guys I was joking, that is why I threw up the Lexus pics. I am going to off road my baby, I am going to be cautious with her and wont do anything too extreme with her, I was just trying to get back at the dude who said he would cringe!

Oh and by the way that Lexus is pretty badass. Nothing but a Landcruiser Prado from overseas but it is full time fourwheel drive with an up and down hill assist thing that makes life pretty easy. I know, who the hell buys a lexus to take it off road and actually needs full time four wheel drive? NO BODY, so why do they have it, who the hell knows?!?! But outside of my 4 wheelers and a 3/4 ton crew cab chevy with a duramax (which is just a little big for those switchbacks in the mountains) it was what i had to wheel with, so i made the b!tch climb a mountain!

[Fredo]

But outside of my 4 wheelers and a 3/4 ton crew cab chevy with a duramax (which is just a little big for those switchbacks in the mountains) it was what i had to wheel with, so i made the b!tch climb a mountain!

..but you can't afford to get a second rig to beat on offroad? ;)

[FJAggie07]

..but you can't afford to get a second rig to beat on offroad? ;)

Ok I could sell my 4 wheeler and get a beater but i really LIKE my honda rancher, and the chevy is my dad's the lexus my mom's and the FJ is ALL me. Kind of a PITA as far as payments go but i have been obsessed with Toyota and FJ's since My parents brought home a 90 4-Runner and an 89 Supra straight off the lot on the same night.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

We'd love to see you beat the **** out of it! :flipoff2:

X2 :gigem:

[AggieTJ2007]

i know where one is

[JB]

Wheel it. If you know how to drive and are not a dumbass you will have alot of fun. The whole "buy a beater" thing is :rainbow: Yeah, buy a Sami or a Yota, spend time/money doing this and that and take it out, do some obstacle that will break it, spend more time/money in the drivway polishing a turd, repeat. And it will never be as reliable as your FJ. This is Texas, the majority of any obstacle will have a bypass. Creightons TJ is the way it is because he wheeled the piss out of it.

My Bronco is a "beater" and some minor thing pisses me off every trip. AT BVORR is was the starter solenoid.

And the Alpine Loop can be done in most any stock 4x4. I spend two weeks in my fairly stock F150 all over that area and had a blast because the terrain pushed the limits of the truck I was in. It would have been insanely boring in the Bronco.

I can see that FJ going to Alto, BVORR, Katemcy, Hot Springs, and many other places we go and having a great time. Welcome to the club and nice rig.

[Chadnutz]

Do whatever you want. Conlee has wheeled the **** out of his Jeep and it's still in decent shape. Everyone has their own idea of what you should do. Take the suggestions and then make your own decisions. Don't argue with them and always stand your ground because you are the one that you need to please...no one else. Take it from me. Once upon a time there was a 50 page thread on my truck buildup and at least 1/3 of it was arguing that probably reflected pretty poorly on the clup from the outside world. I still wish they'd bring it back and put it in the Kitchen locked or something. No TAMOR member should be without that piece of TAMOR legacy. :flipoff2: Happy trails. :cheers:

[BMFScout]

My Bronco is a "beater" and some minor thing pisses me off every trip. AT BVORR is was the starter solenoid.



Your bronco used to be really nice though.

I don't regret trashing my Scout, I had a great time and made some lifelong friends along the way. It's just a truck, mine's still on the road/trail. Of course mine wasn't brand new, but it was nice.

My advice would be to ride along in Clayton or come out to Gilmer at the end of October. You'll be able to see what we are talking about. This group for the majority likes to rockcrawl. That means tight trails, big rocks, trees, rollovers, dents, exploding parts, etc. I wouldn't suggest putting a new rig through any of that, no matter what it is. What I think this club is scared of is someone coming out and destroying their new rig. Of course half the people in this club got their trail rig (including myself) this way, so to each his own. I'm excited to see an FJC in the club, makes us look diverse, you know vision 2020 and ****! :gigem:

[CheapJeep]

X2 on what John B. and Nutz said. The whole purpose of our club is to go out and have fun wheeling, you DO NOT have to have some trail only beater p.o.s. just to get out there and go to events. Some of our members don't even own an offroad vehicle but they are still active in the club. Over time the image of the club has been skewed in which it is believed that everyone must have an extensively built rig just to not catch flack from people. That is not the case here, some of our old members might believe so, but that's just not how things are. Not everyone can afford to have a tow rig, trailer, and trail rig... You CAN have a STOCK vehicle, still wheel it, and have a good time.

Wheel your FJ, have fun, live and learn. Maybe someday you might decide to build something, but you've made it clear that that's not the case right now, so have fun with what you have. :gigem:

As I've said before at almost every event we go to you can wheel and make it through the trails with a stock vehicle. Take Aggie Highway at Katemcy for example, Clayton, Steven, Tommy, and more all wheeled this trail with no issues and they still had a great time.

[agjohn02]

But outside of my 4 wheelers and a 3/4 ton crew cab chevy with a duramax (which is just a little big for those switchbacks in the mountains) it was what i had to wheel with, so i made the b!tch climb a mountain!


my dad did it in his red truck...

http://tamor.us/members-rigs/albums/album218/Picture_001.sized.jpg

[BMFScout]

my dad did it in his red truck...



my uncle has a pocketknife!

Robbie, did someone accidentally post under your name? That was good stuff! :flipoff2:

[agjohn02]

my uncle has a pocketknife!




i really should have made it hurt. as far as im concerned, i still owe you one stumpy.

[jerryg79]

thats the norm around here. get used to it and its a rather fun group to be around. dont take anything personally, unless it's coming from jerry. he's the resident offender. :flipoff2:

i aint saying nothing to no newbies, unless its "hey you wanna beer?", "You always feel the room spinning after three, hit this bottle of wild turkey that'll take the edge off", "Here pewk in this", "Nah just sleep it off here, I'll give your girlfriend a ride home". :D :flipoff2:

[sasquatch]

hit this bottle of wild turkey that'll take the edge off

***



I can see that FJ going to Alto, BVORR, Katemcy, Hot Springs, and many other places we go and having a great time. Welcome to the club and nice rig.

bottom line right there

[Sharpe]

, hit this bottle of wild turkey that'll take the edge off"
You're still an *******.

[jerryg79]

You're still an *******.

you're still a b!tch, until you prove me wrong when next we meet :D :flipoff2:

[FJAggie07]

Wowsas... I didn't think bringing a new rig to the table would start such an interesting thread... I am really holding the popcorn now and enjoying this.

By the way I just found out I can sell my stock running boards that I have nothing in for about $450, put a little more money with that, maybe I might relive my original off road roots and buy an old SR5... You guys are really rubbing off on me. I am really considering this beater idea. Anybody got a good garage I can set up shop in? Unfortunately my barn is 2.5 hours away and my current place has only a concrete slab as one parking spot...


i aint saying nothing to no newbies, unless its "hey you wanna beer?", "You always feel the room spinning after three, hit this bottle of wild turkey that'll take the edge off", "Here pewk in this", "Nah just sleep it off here, I'll give your girlfriend a ride home". :D :flipoff2:

Ah to be a newbie to something when I am a Senior. It feels so good again. I have been in too many organizations over the years and maybe I am just a little set in my ways, but hey how about I bring out a brick of stones to the next little get together and we all have some fun the only way i know how ;)

[FJAggie07]

So use the FJ as a tow rig/expedition/camping rig, and get a beater to use on the fun stuff. You could easily find a old FJ for the cost of some of those bumpers you showed. If nothing else, hold off on buying something till after you go on a few trips as a passenger. I'm sure your thoughts on this matter will change alot after that.

I like this Idea. I don't plan on rock crawling the new FJ and would love to ride along with anyone. I am not about to do a solid axle swap or put any kind of suspension that would allow the kind of wheel travel I want OR risk screwing it up beyond all repair. I am definately learning just from ya'lls stories, but I also want to see my FJ's practical limits. Keep on ranting guys...I am learning something.

[jerryg79]

Ah to be a newbie to something when I am a Senior. It feels so good again. I have been in too many organizations over the years and maybe I am just a little set in my ways, but hey how about I bring out a brick of stones to the next little get together and we all have some fun the only way i know how ;)

I like him already :gigem:

[mudtoy67]

You should take on as many modifications as you can at one time. Selling parts off of it is a great way to finance future mods and/or beer. And if you don't think you'll have time to finish it, take it from me....it's still just a theory, but I know one of these days my cruiser will fix itself.

[FJAggie07]

I hate the damn running boards anyways and sliders would be a very nice PROTECTIVE mod to help out when i find myself in a situation where i was.....how do i say....stupid?

[AggieTJ2007]

There are a few ways to keep your rig pretty and wheel it.

4.) Stay away from following people like me or Eric,
3.) Don't enjoy hitting ****
2.) Be gentle with the throttle
1.) Stay away from tight trails w/ trees

I think the FJ is sweet, do with it as you wish, but remember that you are making payments on it and it is your DD. You don't want to compromise you DD so you can do more off-road. I did and it was a horrible decision, I had to buy a truck just so I could reliably get to work.

Oh and jerry, Wild Turkey, or in my case Jack Single Barrell doesn't take the edge off, you just end up sleeping on the floor.

[BMFScout]

Oh and jerry, Wild Turkey, or in my case Jack Single Barrell doesn't take the edge off, you just end up sleeping on the floor.

kissing the toilet.

[FJAggie07]

1.) Stay away from tight trails w/ trees


Yeah learned that lesson this weekend at BVORR. Following Robert and his F-100 up a hill that had a nice tight trail on the other side of it. We all winced inside of the FJ as i took a nice branch right down the side of the FJ. Nothing a high speed buffer and some wax didn't take care of on Monday tho!

[TxCruzr]

So find a cheap REAL FJ and wheel that. :gigem:

A sentence like that usually has rust bucket included. You'll be hard pressed to find a 40 that is in good condition and ready to go for a reasonable price. Complete basketcases go for what some nice jeeps go for.

I think some of you guys think he is going to take it to Katemcy and first off try to take it up Baby Hughie's Crack. From the type of stuff he has done in the past, the FJC will handle it fine. I don't think he's going for the extreme rock crawling just yet.

[Fredo]

We all winced inside of the FJ as i took a nice branch right down the side of the FJ. Nothing a high speed buffer and some wax didn't take care of on Monday tho!

This statement right here pretty much sums up what the club is trying to say. If you value your paint enough to worry about tree limb scratches, be very careful of who you follow up trails and what trails you go on. Just know your limits. What I used to do is just follow somebody who was similarly equipped to me that had more experience wheeling and just watch how they pick lines on trails and see how their path up the obstacle worked out before heading up. Another thing is to have a good spotter that you trust. Don't let people you haven't wheeled with before spot you. You may come off as somewhat of a prick, but they might not know how particular you are about your vehicle and at least it might save your fender or rocker.

[FJAggie07]

I think some of you guys think he is going to take it to Katemcy and first off try to take it up Baby Hughie's Crack. From the type of stuff he has done in the past, the FJC will handle it fine. I don't think he's going for the extreme rock crawling just yet.

Yes! Joseph understands me! thank god someone does....


Yeah if you ask the guys out there the scratches didn't bug me, but why not do something about it to make your DD look nice when you can? Sh!t happens, scratches happen, dents happen, but you are right I prefer not to scratch it but if it happens you take care of it. Nothing wrong in taking pride in the way your DD looks, now if i had a beater that is different. I will sacrifice a couple of scratches to feel the way i did when i made it up the hill on sunday... I was taking the FJC's off road virginity there and lets just say it was the best virgin i have ever had.... (come to think about it maybe the only....i gotta stop drinking so much...)

[eight]

There are plenty of trails you can do. Some people on here just like to have a crappy vehicle so they have something to waste time and money on. With just some bumpers and sliders you'll be able to wheel full weekends at gilmor or katemcy. That thing should be pretty capable allready with a locker and limited slip. Aggie highway can be done by just about any stock vehicle. And you shouldn't have any problem with waterfall. There's only 2 spots that body damage is likely and you can go around them.

[JB]

you want a unique toyota, that you can trash and still screw with the people here cause they don't think it should be wheeled? Theres a FJ-80 for sale over by wolf pen car wash for less than 3k.

its got some miles, still prob worth a couple K

[CRaSHnBuRN]

yeah, but for that price, the mileage isn't bad. Plus that one uses a fuel injected version of the older cruiser engine (3FE), so replacements are much cheaper than the newer engines. Hell, you could even stick a 2F from a FJ-40 into it, and the fuel injection will still bolt on and work, and you'll even gain some power. Plus its been there for a while, so I bet he could get it much cheaper

[davido]

If you want to take a stab at making your own bumper we have a welder at my house. I am going to have to start collecting money for torch gas and wire use though...

Don't let Cox read that.... let the flaming begin!

[FJAggie07]

I found a guy up in dallas selling a bad ass 1st gen runner but he wants 4.5K but it is already trail ready.....

Anybody else drinking tonight? I am getting there quickly but i have reason to celebrate because i am getting my freaking ring tomorrow!

[davido]

If you value your paint enough to worry about tree limb scratches, be very careful of who you follow up trails and what trails you go on. Just know your limits. What I used to do is just follow somebody who was similarly equipped to me that had more experience wheeling and just watch how they pick lines on trails and see how their path up the obstacle worked out before heading up. Another thing is to have a good spotter that you trust. Don't let people you haven't wheeled with before spot you. You may come off as somewhat of a prick, but they might not know how particular you are about your vehicle and at least it might save your fender or rocker.


Amen. Don't worry, you can follow me. I have one of THE OTHER FJ Cruisers in the club. Schubring can also help. He has a Patrol. That's a Nissan FJ. Joseph too, he's practically stock. You've come to the right place, you're in good hands. :D

[uglyota]

It is taking every last drop of my self control to not further contribute to this thread

[FJAggie07]

It is taking every last drop of my self control to not further contribute to this thread

Please contribute...please! I am on my 8th glas of sangria and sprite after staringt off with 3 or 4 beers. all of this is starting to sink in mnow.

[AggieTJ2007]

ohh, that sounds like good stuff. I can't wait to wheel with you

[Reckless]

Newbie drunk posting, he is fitting in well

[sasquatch]

i'm going to start moderating this thread so i'd keep your posts constructive

[FJAggie07]

i'm going to start moderating this thread so i'd keep your posts constructive

Ah Robert, constructive? Are there rules for this forum outside of not using foul language? Must we keep certain threads in certain sections on topic? Please explain so that a newbie may understand the values and constitution of such a forum and thus be able to post only the most appropriate and constructive of comments.

PS- Seriously the above is not me being a smart allec rather just one innebriated man trying to make a complete sentence. I am serious as to what should and should not be in this thread? cool......chris brown out.

[sasquatch]

no, theres not really a set rule of what to post where. but there's been too much panties in wads when somebody wants to do something with their vehicle and a some people feel the need to ***** about it. some criticism is good and can open up new points of view, but some of crap in here we could do without

[agjohn02]

i'm going to start moderating this thread so i'd keep your posts constructive


post deleter!!!! fords suck even more than toyotas!


chris, having a DD that you wheel is fun, but you just cant follow everyone on all the trails. now, its when your DD rig is no longer your DD that it stinks to have something that looks decent and you dont want to mess it up.

[Cajun]

i'm going to start moderating this thread so i'd keep your posts constructive

Wow, that sounds an awful lot like a threat.

Keep your opinions to yourself unless I agree with them!

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Wow, that sounds an awful lot like a threat.

Keep your opinions to yourself unless I agree with them!

Ouch, I see a delete in your future :flipoff2:

[sasquatch]

i deleted that gay smile thing. nobody said you can't voice your opinion. posts get deleted when you bash someone for wanting to do something that you don't agree with, or keep telling them to do what they don't want to do.

lets quit snaking his thread and get back to vehicle tech

[FJAggie07]

ah vehicle tech....

My FJC doesnt have a passenger armrest anybody know how we can weld one up using a tig welder aluminum and bamboo?

[Cajun]

...posts get deleted when you bash someone for wanting to do something that you don't agree with, or keep telling them to do what they don't want to do.



When did I "bash" him for anything, or keep telling him something? I offered my opinion, and a bit of advice. This was no different than the statements made other older members who have been down the "wheel your daily driver" road with little success and large expense. I posted my opinion once and it got deleted.

Apparently posts get deleted when you don't agree with them. It has nothing to do with their substance in relation to the thread. :rolleyes:

[Cajun]

As for tech, I dig your Cruiser. If you want to keep it nice, which it seems you do, I think you're doing the right thing by looking at protection such as bumpers, sliders, and such. Bumpers that offer corner protection would be where I'd focus. While they may not be as aesthetically pleasing as ones that fit tighter to the body, they'll offer more protection where you need it most. Also, you'll want sliders that cover at least some of the rockers. DavidO had some really nice ones made for his 4Runner way back when. Sometimes it's the mild trails that get you, it only takes one slip off a rock or into a tree.

If you want to beat the sh*t out of it, it's yours, more power to you. :gigem:

[stinger7401]

Whatever you do, don't pull your front sway bar and leave it off, especially if elders tell you its not safe on the road. The consequences could be severe :flipoff2:

[sasquatch]

Whatever you do, don't pull your front sway bar and leave it off, especially if elders tell you its not safe on the road. The consequences could be severe :flipoff2:

was connected during the accident :flipoff2:


ok, post whatever at your whim. i'm not deleting posts anymore. too much to keep track of

[DRAGOONRANCH]

was connected during the accident :flipoff2:


ok, post whatever at your whim. i'm not deleting posts anymore. too much to keep track of

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

We have beaten Big Brother again.

I tolds yall there was power in numbers. :flipoff2:

[uglyota]

donkey kong is the best game ever

and jerry's mom can suck a golf ball through a garden hose

:flipoff2:

[DRAGOONRANCH]

and jerry's mom can suck a golf ball through a garden hose


why don't we got off mom's here

































cause I just got off your's :flipoff2:

[jerryg79]

donkey kong is the best game ever

and jerry's mom can suck a golf ball through a garden hose

:flipoff2:

burger time

and eric's mom gives lousy head, but she's the charlie daniels of the titty fawk

[agjohn02]

you should all be expecting PM's. i got one for my last post here. it wasnt even bad.

[TxCruzr]

Have you checked out the FJC section on ih8mud.com? I'm not sure about the FJC section, but I know the rest of the site is awesome. You can get all the help and questions answered that you want and then some.
I would look at the front and rear bumpers that will cover the most and give some side protection along with protecting the front grill/headlights and give up as little approach/departure angle as possible....and that are affordable (hate to go in debt over bumpers). A good set of sliders will go along way. See how they mount on the FJC and how well they stick out before you decide on a set. Make sure they'll keep rocks and trees as far away from your doors as possible.
Leave the exhaust, k&n, light stuff till the end as they won't do much. That motor already has balls, and that quiet sound isn't so bad.
It's already setup well. Slap on some protection (not that kind) and it will be fun as hell on Aggie Highway or any similar trail.



oh, and...


why don't we got off mom's here

cause I just got off your's :flipoff2:

[FJAggie07]

actually fjcruiserforums.com has a ton of great info on it and has a bunch of great guys and vendors on it that give some pretty hellacious deals on anything i need as far as accessories. i will check out ih8mud.com too

[Graystroke]

where ever you go don't let jimmy stack rocks for you. he will cause more body damage than the trail will. :D

[davido]

donkey punch jerry's mom :flipoff2:


What the hell are you talking about Eric?

[CRaSHnBuRN]

where ever you go don't let jimmy stack rocks for you. he will cause more body damage than the trail will. :D

hell, I suggest finding a non club affiliated spotter. It seems like the spotters here have a tendency to say "you know, it would be really cool to see him attempt that, I wonder if he would be dumb enough to try it if I said I would spot him over it" :D




Oh yeah, if a guy named shane offers to spot for you, politely say hell no :D

[CRaSHnBuRN]

one other question about the FJ. Is the view out of the rear as limited as it looks to be?

[TxCruzr]

I've heard the blindspot is hardly even there, even though it looks like it has one the size of a semi.

It's not Shains spotting you should be worried about, it's when he says "hey, that looks cool, want to try it?" Thats a sign that something bad is about to happen.

[BMFScout]

hell, I suggest finding a non club affiliated spotter. It seems like the spotters here have a tendency to say "you know, it would be really cool to see him attempt that, I wonder if he would be dumb enough to try it if I said I would spot him over it" :D
Oh yeah, if a guy named shane offers to spot for you, politely say hell no :D


In my experience with your buggy you were the one choosing the hard stuff to challenge that buggy.

[eight]

Think back a few more years.

[FJAggie07]

one other question about the FJ. Is the view out of the rear as limited as it looks to be?

Rear isnt that bad, drivers side blind spot ehhh, passenger side blind spot HUGE. I damn near ran two people off the road the first night i got it.

[eight]

You should get some dots for the mirrors if it doesn't allready have that sort of thing. Dodge was the same way when I got it. Would run over cars and stuff.

[sasquatch]

or get the square convex ones that fit down in a corner of the mirror

[CRaSHnBuRN]

In my experience with your buggy you were the one choosing the hard stuff to challenge that buggy.

yeah, think back to the old truck. All I remember is lissa trying to talk me into following busa up baby hueys crack. Good thing he broke at the top and I had a reason to go around (well, now that I think about it, maybe I would have been better off trying the crack :( )

[CRaSHnBuRN]

Rear isnt that bad, drivers side blind spot ehhh, passenger side blind spot HUGE. I damn near ran two people off the road the first night i got it.

hmm, then you should definitely try to figure out some kinda of mirror system or something similar if you take it out on the trail. In my experience, if you notice the blind spot alot on the street, then it will be magnified greatly on the trail.

[stinger7401]

hmm, then you should definitely try to figure out some kinda of mirror system or something similar if you take it out on the trail. In my experience, if you notice the blind spot alot on the street, then it will be magnified greatly on the trail.

I think you should make it have a removable top, it would clean up the blind spots. Sawzall, anyone, anyone, ok....no sawzall.

[FJAggie07]

Ok Just wanted to make a little Update on what is going on with the FJ. Started a few mods this weekend, nothing spectacular but notable i think. Numero uno:

Aggie Airconditioning:
Ok this little thing is funny. I made a leash of sorts for my back window. It allows me to keep my back window open for wheeling purposes so it allows a free flow of air without hitting trees and yet tricks my FJ into NOT thinking there is a door open. It is very handy because if you roll the front windows alone down in the FJ it is like a flipping tornado inside. It isn't pretty but i made it out of parts of a horse lead so what you see is what you get you know? Here is a pic:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/CIMG0132.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/CIMG0143.jpg

Sliders
I started making sliders this weekend at my ranch, got about a half days work in on em too. They are going to be made out of 2" OD square tubing and 2" OD pipe. The round pipe is actually an OLD trampoline frame, but was suprisingly very heavy duty. I am using the trampoline frame because it already has 90 degree bends in it and makes it a hell of a lot easier when you don't have to bend anything. I also used a saddle cutting press to make the cross members and have half welded up parts of them. they will be completed the weekend after this one when i go back home. here is a pic of them in progress:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/CIMG0149.jpg

Front Bumper
I am now seriously considering a new front bumper. The All-Pro front bumper is available to me for $599, an additional $69 for a light hoop, and $65 for shipping. It is normally 799 for this bumper and is light weight yet heavy duty, supports the Warn 9.5XP winch (i would probably modify it to fit the M8000) and has a couple of shackle mounts to mount D-rings for tow points. Has great approach angle and i am really considering it. So just need to sell a TV and something else since i just sold some running boards and a spare tire cover for some change and i might be able to afford it. I have to decide if i want it this weekend tho as my deal expires early next week. here is a picture of the bumper i am looking at getting:

http://www.allprooffroad.com/images/stories/FJ%20C%20Front%20BB.JPG

compared to my stock bumper:
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/IMG_1044.jpg

Also the All-Pro comes unfinished so i would have to figure out what kind of paint i want to paint it, I heard durabek scratchless paint was good, and maybe just powdercoating, i dunno what do ya'll think?

[Reckless]

paint, because if you have to do welding on it, you would burn up that pretty powder coating, but if you have paint, ya can just touch it up with a rattle can.

[Doug Krebs]

http://www.allprooffroad.com/images/stories/FJ%20C%20Front%20BB.JPG


Man that bumper doesn't look like it would be to bad to build. Maybe $150 in steel? You could almost buy a mig welder for the difference.

[Sharpe]

I would vote for plain ol' paint too cause one way or the other its gonna get scratched up. Why would you modify the bumper to put a smaller winch in?

[FJAggie07]

I would vote for plain ol' paint too cause one way or the other its gonna get scratched up. Why would you modify the bumper to put a smaller winch in?

money

[Sharpe]

money
If you're gonna roll with us you will need all the winch you can get at some point, thats why I have an M12000 :flipoff2:

J/k, I've actually never used my winch in a recovery, just to drag my broken down pile of **** onto the trailer...

[mudtoy67]

I agree with robert, you can never have too much winch. As far as price goes, you may want to look into the plain old Warn XD9000. Good pulling power and no frills to jack the price up.

The lanyard trick is pretty cool. Are you only using that on the highway? Seems like it wouldn't be safe for the glass to be hanging out like that on the trail.

[FJAggie07]

The lanyard trick is pretty cool. Are you only using that on the highway? Seems like it wouldn't be safe for the glass to be hanging out like that on the trail.

Actually the hydraulics that grab the window and keep it open hold it taught and keep it open. It is pretty nice. I have already cut through my pasture bouncing around at about 30 mph and it stayed open well.

[BMFScout]

Looks good!

[TexTJ209]

Do this. :gigem:

http://www.jeepaholics.com/support/files/scotty/20061025214640_Ult%20FJ.jpg

[FJAggie07]

Ah the Ultimate Adventure FJ, Notice the Solid Axle Swap, 39's and FabFour Bumper. They also put a URD supercharger on it so i think it took it from around 239 HP to about 330. Also notice that it was once Yellow and they did the really bad paint job.... Hear are some updated pics of this cruiser...

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/fairystar/FJ%20cruiser/ua2.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/fairystar/FJ%20cruiser/ua1.jpg

And the original "Spy" Photo
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/fairystar/FJ%20cruiser/1.jpg

[TexTJ209]

Yup. So when do your 39s arrive? :gigem:

[FJAggie07]

The day All Pro offroad releases the SAS kit!!! :gigem:

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Make your own and sell em the specs. :beer:

[FJAggie07]

I ain't that savvy, and not that brave with a brand new truck! this is me being a grade a (), but I am still paying off this $27K vehicle!

[TexTJ209]

Do it now before you get tired of making payments!!!111!

[AggieTJ2007]

if you roll it on a dirt road and total it insurance will pay it off and you can always buy it back

[TxCruzr]

Coming from you creighton, I would expect no less :flipoff2:

[CheapJeep]

fraud? :flipoff2:

[Reckless]

If you're gonna roll with us you will need all the winch you can get at some point, thats why I have an M12000 :flipoff2:

J/k, I've actually never used my winch in a recovery, just to drag my broken down pile of **** onto the trailer...



and pull tents down! :flipoff2:

[Reckless]

if you roll it on a dirt road and total it insurance will pay it off and you can always buy it back


Chris Scotti???? :gigem:

[FJAggie07]

Ok time for an update on the FJC. Parents surprised me with Christmas early this year and surprised me with an AMAZING christmas to say the least...They ordered me an Expedition One Front Bumper and bought a Warn 9.5xp winch.

Here are some pics of the bumper on a yellow FJC
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y63/FreezeN/final002.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y63/FreezeN/final001.jpg

And the winch...
http://www.4wheelparts.com/4wp/images/imagebank/warn/warn_95xp_c.jpg
Warn 9.5xp (http://www.4wheelparts.com/4wp/products/productLine.asp?cat=WIN&prodline=3002&catName=Winches&man=WARN&parentProdline=WinUltimateWARN&expand=sub1#)


And I almost finished with my sliders, since my last update on them I have gotten to work one day on em but they are done, now i just have to fab and weld on some support arms so i can bolt them on to the frame of my truck, which should only take about half a day. I have to get the bumper, winch, lights, and sliders done and put on the truck before the Lone Star Jamboree (http://www.toyotatrailriders.com/jamboree/) at Gilmer on Jan. 12....

[eight]

I think it would look good with some wheels that stick out further. That would also prodive more protection for the body because it'll keep it away from ledges better.

[FJAggie07]

I think it would look good with some wheels that stick out further. That would also prodive more protection for the body because it'll keep it away from ledges better.

you know I have been thinkin about some spidertrax wheel spacers to give me a little wider stance on the trail, dont have the money right now for different wheels, what do ya'll think about wheel spacers?

[davido]

Ask Cooper about wheel spacers. Schubring also has some.

[stx4wheeler]

only person i know that has some with no problems would be conely, coopers suck bad

[CheapJeep]

Aren't you supposed to use locktite or something on them? Discount and other tire places won't even touch a vehicle with spacers on them for liability reasons.

[FJAggie07]

hmm...maybe i should just buy some 17x9 steelies and say fawk it...

[CheapJeep]

If you get the right backspacing they'll stick out just like you want, new rims cost more than spacers but it's just a better idea.

[eight]

I remember scott having one fall off. See lots of duallies running them with wider tires. I think Ed's dually has them. But for the dually you put on one wheel and the spacer and torque it down, then install the other wheel on the spacer's lugs.

[Doug Krebs]

Holy jesus! Can I have your parents?

[AggieTJ2007]

kinda what I was thinking, I am not even allowed to bring the jeep home anymore

[Sharpe]

My mom hasnt seen pigpen in 3 years....teehee.

[CRaSHnBuRN]

yeah, my parents just roll thier eyes at me and ask if I'm gonna **** it up like the last one

[agjohn02]

id say you are well on your way :flipoff2:

[Shaggy]

my parents just bust my balls because mine hasnt driven in so long yet i am still putting money into it... one day they will eat those words

[JeepPhisherman]

And I almost finished with my sliders, since my last update on them I have gotten to work one day on em but they are done, now i just have to fab and weld on some support arms so i can bolt them on to the frame of my truck, which should only take about half a day. I have to get the bumper, winch, lights, and sliders done and put on the truck before the Lone Star Jamboree (http://www.toyotatrailriders.com/jamboree/) at Gilmer on Jan. 12....

Drilling holes in the frame sucks. I had to take my exhaust off my passenger side, and my fuel lines on the drivers side, ebrake had to be disconnected and heat shielding removed on my taco. If I had to do over again, I'd just weld them to the frame.

Also, 1/2" drill bits are mighty long, so I ended up using a reamer or uni-bit or whatever to finish up all of my holes. Well worth the $22 investment if you dont have a right angle attachment.

[RCcola55]

My mom hasnt seen pigpen in 3 years....teehee.


rememeber my moms reaction when she saw the bronco :gigem:

[eight]

My parents have never been suprised by what I do to jeep. Maybe they would be by what I do with jeep. But then unlike most others in this post besides myself and the originator of this thread, my parents do not pay for my crap. Not like they bought me a tj sport then I trashed it and they bought me a new diesel 4x4 or anything.

[FJAggie07]

Drilling holes in the frame sucks. I had to take my exhaust off my passenger side, and my fuel lines on the drivers side, ebrake had to be disconnected and heat shielding removed on my taco. If I had to do over again, I'd just weld them to the frame.

Also, 1/2" drill bits are mighty long, so I ended up using a reamer or uni-bit or whatever to finish up all of my holes. Well worth the $22 investment if you dont have a right angle attachment.

I completely agree, but the cool thing about the FJC is there are already pre drilled threaded holes in the frame for the stock toyota sliders that weren't an option I wanted to pay for. If the holes weren't already there I would just weld them on but since they are, might as well use the ability to be able to take them off whenever I want to.

[CRaSHnBuRN]

****, I wish my parents payed for my crap, or anything for that matter. I asked them to buy my senior ring for me as a graduation present, and they're still *****ing about it

[FJAggie07]

Also, as stated before I pay for the truck and the mods that I want to do, but my parents wanted to do something EXTREMELY nice for me and luckily my Dad share's my passion for Toyota's and FJ's so he convinced my mother i needed the baddest of the bad for a bumper and winch. It is the first thing they have ever given me for the FJ but my girlfriend decided to get me something for the FJ TOO! She got me a new shift knob from http://www.flameball.com

[Doug Krebs]

baddest of the bad :laughing:

[jerryg79]

She got me a new shift knob from http://www.flameball.com

And, Im not clicking that at work

[fbronco86]

And, Im not clicking that at work

It lights up at night. I am gonna get one for my bronco its gonna be sweet.

[stx4wheeler]

dont weld to the frame on a new vehicle hell or any vehicle unless completely neccessary, it sucks major ass when you want to change something and have to grind it off.

[FJAggie07]

I got my new winch and bumper on this weekend, complete pain in the ass, It bolted on to studs that were sticking out of the frame for the original bumper and then had frame supports that were completely ******-rigged and had to be drilled out and use about 5 washers as shims, but after all that and about 4 hours I got the bumper on, the winch in and wired and my PIAA lights in and wired and I do have to say it looks pretty fawking badass. Here are the pics...

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/CIMG6558.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/CIMG6556.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/CIMG6559.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/CIMG6561.jpg

[TxCruzr]

Thats a great looking bumper, probably one of the best looking ones out there..

[DRAGOONRANCH]

you gotta quit takin pictures of it in the PG, that thing needs to see some trails :flipoff2:

btw, nice bumper and kudos on the install.

[FJAggie07]

you gotta quit takin pictures of it in the PG, that thing needs to see some trails :flipoff2:

btw, nice bumper and kudos on the install.

I know, I know, but when I am in Dallas working over breaks it is where it gets parked.

It will see the trails this weekend, going out to BMRA with Toyota Trail Riders (TLCA chapter up here in dallas) for the Lone Star Jamboree. Its Gonna be badass! whole weekend of camping and wheeling, get their friday morning and leave sunday afternoon. Can't ask for a better weekend to test out the new bumper and winch.

[JeepPhisherman]

I know, I know, but when I am in Dallas working over breaks it is where it gets parked.

It will see the trails this weekend, going out to BMRA with Toyota Trail Riders (TLCA chapter up here in dallas) for the Lone Star Jamboree. Its Gonna be badass! whole weekend of camping and wheeling, get their friday morning and leave sunday afternoon. Can't ask for a better weekend to test out the new bumper and winch.

Looks badass. I was planning on making it out to LSJ with the TTORA guys, but the gf won a trip to Nashville all inclusive, so have fun.

[FJAggie07]

Alright little update for this thread.

I finished my sliders this weekend, you know the ones I started back in september...

I welded them up to be completely bolt on in the bolt holes designed and made for the factory sliders. Now I just have to paint them and they will be done.

They started out like this

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/CIMG0149.jpg

Ended up like this...

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/Sliders/CIMG6895.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/Sliders/CIMG6904.jpg

And this...
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/Sliders/CIMG6902.jpg

And this...
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/Sliders/CIMG6901.jpg

100% homemade and fabbed, one of a kind... They took a long time but here they are.

[agjohn02]

those look really good. you might consider gusseting the plates though so they dont flex up into the body.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

These gonna get welded on or bolted. Yes, I do see the bolt in the bottom of it, just no holes in the top.

[FJAggie07]

Yeah there are holes in the top too, when I was taking the pictures I only had like two bolts in because I was just trying to get them on to see where I needed to place the slider on the other side to tack it up, so i could pull it back off and finish it.

Now each slider is bolted to my frame with 8 bolts each, 2 on each arm, and they are grade 10.9 bolts (maybe a little overkill but oh well)

And as far as gusseting the arms, I wanted to do it, but the way I ended up making the plates with the top bolt hole right above the arm, it is going to be a bit of a ***** to gusset. I could do two per arm, one on each side of the bolt hole, but then I would never get them bolted up. I am still thinking about it. Right now I just put two beads on every weld and hopefully they are strong enough :gigem:

[JeepPhisherman]

I ran into the same problem with an after-thought about gussets. I ended up just putting 2 gussets on each mounting plate in a v-pattern on the top side, which is really the only side you need to worry about. Left enough room to get in there with a socket to bolt them up, and it worked out fine.

[JeepPhisherman]

And I only bolted my on with 4 g8's per side, but my mounting plates were u-shaped

[AggieTJ2007]

10.9's are metric equall to grade 8 SAE

BTW they look good, I would jack up on them to make sure that they can't deflect enough to touch the body Nothing worse that the sliders pinning your doors shut

[bcolman]

Now each slider is bolted to my frame with 8 bolts each, 2 on each arm, and they are grade 10.9 bolts (maybe a little overkill but oh well)


on your cruiser its better overkill than body damage, atleast if it was mine that would be what i would want

[TxCruzr]

BTW they look good, I would jack up on them to make sure that they can't deflect enough to touch the body Nothing worse that the sliders pinning your doors shut

x2
look good :gigem:

[CRaSHnBuRN]

BTW they look good, I would jack up on them to make sure that they can't deflect enough to touch the body Nothing worse that the sliders pinning your doors shut


On my old truck, you could jack the truck up by the sliders, but the first time I really dropped the truck on them they got up into the body pretty good. Granted this was the full weight of the truck from about 3 feet up, but the jack method may not be enough of a test.

[AggieTJ2007]

I thought about that but it would at least give him some Idea of how stiff they are, I don't think the FJ is going to be falling 3 feet onto an obstacle though, at least I hope not

[FJAggie07]

Yeah I will be jacking them up by the sliders, but I need to get them fully bolted up first and torqued right. I will do all that after I paint them, and that may not be for two weeks. After that I will see if they need to be gusseted.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

I would think that you could get away with one gusset on one side of the supports. This way you would still have access to the bolt head.

[sasquatch]

how thick is that square tube? I don't think you need any gussets with how you've built them.

[FJAggie07]

how thick is that square tube? I don't think you need any gussets with how you've built them.

Actually I dunno, It was part of a stockpile of tubing my grandfather had in his barn, but you can kind of eyeball it from this pic...

Here are the arms before I welded the sliders to them:
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/Sliders/CIMG6893.jpg

[FJAggie07]

Got the sliders painted and mounted just in time for K-Rocks. Here they are finished.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/Sliders/CIMG6953.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/Sliders/CIMG6963.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/Sliders/CIMG6958.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/April-21/CIMG6965.jpg

[sasquatch]

your rockers will thank you this weekend

[DRAGOONRANCH]

yeah cook, you were right, that was some other doosh at 47 in that black FJ. :flipoff3:

[FJAggie07]

There was another black FJ at 47 yesterday? I couldn't make it home in time, what happened?

[JB]

yeah, he and TJ shovel guy hit some hardcore trails

[stx4wheeler]

oh **** i thought it was you to, i was wondering why/when you got mud terrains

[FJAggie07]

Wtf? When has someone CS started posing as me, I know I am cool and all but what the fawk?

Was he a real doosh trying to do more than he actually could? I know there is a salesman up at atkinson toyota who has a lift and tires and all-pro bumper, it was probably him, even though i have never seen his rig.

[FJAggie07]

This reminds me who has the windshield banners? I am going to go ahead and put one on before K-rocks just in case an FJ decides to show up and somebody tries to confuse me with them.

[JeepPhisherman]

This reminds me who has the windshield banners? I am going to go ahead and put one on before K-rocks just in case an FJ decides to show up and somebody tries to confuse me with them.


Robbie has them, we are getting more printed. I need 1 as well.

[JeepPhisherman]

Wtf? When has someone CS started posing as me, I know I am cool and all but what the fawk?

Was he a real doosh trying to do more than he actually could? I know there is a salesman up at atkinson toyota who has a lift and tires and all-pro bumper, it was probably him, even though i have never seen his rig.

The manager at Atkinson has the black FJ. He's a pretty cool guy, his name is Chris as well.

[agjohn02]

He's a pretty cool guy, his name is Chris as well.


oxymoron much? :flipoff2:

[FJAggie07]

The manager at Atkinson has the black FJ. He's a pretty cool guy, his name is Chris as well.

Yeah I think I met him when I went to go look for a tundra for the woman.

[FJAggie07]

Robbie has them, we are getting more printed. I need 1 as well.

So which tamor house does robbie live at? Do we have two for you and me?

[bcolman]

So which tamor house does robbie live at? Do we have two for you and me?

he lives at the dexter house

[Sharpe]

Dexter st. If you cant find our house, you dont get a sticker. Period.

[JeepPhisherman]

So which tamor house does robbie live at? Do we have two for you and me?

I think he's got around 5 left? Clayton was going to get some more printed with our t-shirts, because there were several people that needed one after their first trips.

[CRaSHnBuRN]

Dexter st. If you cant find our house, you dont get a sticker. Period.

I hope that in a few years they have an updated aerial view of that house on google earth, one that shows all the trucks and junk sitting around it
:flipoff2:

[Reckless]

hmm im gonna have to look at it again on my google earth.

[FJAggie07]

Alright *****es didnt know where else to put this....

In all my craziness of moving to dallas I kinda lost track of keeping up with forums but I still found time to do a little wheelin...

Went up to Clayton and tackled some of the K-Trails and got pretty shwasted and decided to do snake pit down hurd creek at midnight... well needless to say taking the FJ Cruiser down a 4 trail at night wasn't the best idea but i came out unscathed of body damage with only a sensor knocked loose. Thought I would share a pic or two with the TAMOR crowd.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/oh.jpg

http://i.pbase.com/g6/47/38247/2/79116020.V8J4Haxt.jpg

http://i.pbase.com/g6/47/38247/2/79116060.xTBfC3SQ.jpg

[redcagepatrol]

who did you go with to Clayton?

[FJAggie07]

Mi Dallas Toyota club, Toyota Trail Riders.

I say diversify get in to as many wheeling clubs as you can so you can have a trip planned every weekend :)

[TxCruzr]

so how well sealed are the doors :gigem:

[FJAggie07]

Not very well cause my entire driverside floorboard was water!

[FJAggie07]

Alright guys I think I have given up the dream, of buying a beater... There is a new plan aloft....

I am thinking about doing a SAS on the FJC and then Exo-caging it. I am doing my research now, but what are ya'lls thoughts and suggestions on suspension set-ups. steering options, Axle options (D44, FJ80 LC axle...?), and brake options. Also will need to regear cause I am thinking at least 37's if not 39's. Also gotta figure out what locker I want to throw in the front and how ALL of this will affect the funky ass electronics in these new vehicles.

This is going to be a VERY long process and will take a lot of research but I think it is the way to go and I am starting my research now and probably wont act for another couple of months.

[redcagepatrol]

Alright guys I think I have given up the dream, of buying a beater... There is a new plan aloft....

I am thinking about doing a SAS on the FJC and then Exo-caging it.
That must be the worst idea that I have ever heard. Stick to the beater plan - or at least find a wrecked FJC to start with or something.

[CheapJeep]

If you do that then it'll either wind up a beater (UA FJC for example) or not wheel and be a cool grocery getter.

[FJAggie07]

That must be the worst idea that I have ever heard. Stick to the beater plan - or at least find a wrecked FJC to start with or something.

Yeah well I don't exactly have a whole lot of expenses anymore and well money isn't really that big of a deal and I plan on having my FJ paid off in about 6 months so why not just buy myself a new Tundra after those six months and make my Fj my beater?

Ain't life grand after college when you actually have money! :gigem:

[FJAggie07]

No grocery getter, not a daily driver.

[redcagepatrol]

Yeah well I don't exactly have a whole lot of expenses anymore and well money isn't really that big of a deal and I plan on having my FJ paid off in about 6 months so why not just buy myself a new Tundra after those six months and make my Fj my beater?

Ain't life grand after college when you actually have money! :gigem:
We'll, I guess if you have that kind of money, then why not? I would do the same - just don't have that kind of money... at least when I was 22 I didn't have that kind of money...
Took us till like last year paying $1250/mo to pay of college loans and CC bills :eek:

[FJAggie07]

I had the luck of family paying for the tuition statement and I worked to pay for books, food, rent, bills and me truck. I am debt free out of college making pretty good money, but if i could just figure out how to get the money back that i am giving to uncle sam every year then i would be set...

[Graystroke]

sell your fj and by wrecked one like someone else said...what's your fj worth? or with the money from the fj you good by a kickass built trail rig and have money left over to put a down payment on a tundra and buy a ghey matching car hauler to boot...going this route you would be wheeling in a month just about the time you finished your "research"

[Eckert]

why dont you start off cheap and build a another truck for a fraction of what you would have invested in the FJC and have twice as much? do they even offer T-case kits and the sorts for FJC's, or are you going with a different drivetrain too?

you sure didnt look very long for a beater if you already changed you mind.

if you have to be different, put some volvos under the FJC. they already have air lockers.

[robertf03]

you: build the fj

everyone else: stop the negativity, sit back and enjoy the train wreck

[davido]

buy a beater (truck). start a business (taxes). STFU (everything else)


Peace out. :) (back to my beer in BFWichitaFalls)

[robertf03]

buy a beater. start a business. STFU


Peace out. :)

and I thought you edited for clarity, man was I wrong :flipoff2:

[FJAggie07]

start a business (taxes).

whoops... :flipoff2:

By the way corporate income tax is a ***** ain't it?

[william_ace]

what everyone else said

[FJAggie07]

why dont you start off cheap and build a another truck for a fraction of what you would have invested in the FJC and have twice as much? do they even offer T-case kits and the sorts for FJC's, or are you going with a different drivetrain too?

you sure didnt look very long for a beater if you already changed you mind.

if you have to be different, put some volvos under the FJC. they already have air lockers.

Nah I am not ruling out a beater completely yet at all. It is funny to see the reactions of the so called old and wisened members of TAMOR, since they are all knowing and omniscient.

Maybe I just want to be different, do something different and have some fun while I am at it. I haven't completely decided what I want to do and I looked at a couple of different beaters this weekend and you know what I fawking hate coming behind somebody elses fawk ups. Every body that wheels n-rigs their damn vehicles and I would rather start fresh. No matter what I have to replace a cross member under the FJC anyways and I got to thinking about what I could do to drop the IFS up front...

And all of ya'll know there are rigs that go to every event that have like 50K dropped into em and they look like big ol piles of ****. At least mine (if i go this route) will be done right and be something different out on the trails.




Oh and it is great to get this reaction ALL OVER AGAIN from the old guys. Remember how everyone criticized me for wheeling my FJ, yeah now it is the same thing all over again.

[agjohn02]

its not criticism all over again. its the same criticism, only amplified. this idea is is is... horrible. buy a built buggy and put a fjc grill on it. you'll thank yourself when you think about what you were thinking about doing before you were really thinking.

post it up on pirate. see what they think about taking a nice new fjc and building a trail only rig out of it for your first project. unless they make a mockery out of your thread simply for the stupidity of the idea, you'll get the same reaction. as much as i would love to see another chadnutz thread, ill be fair and give you my opinion now.

[robertf03]

I think you have misinterpreted my post, I am for this. Somone will do it eventually, why not be a pioneer?

Or you could buy something that should probably be restored rather than modified, throw the same drivetrain in there as everyone else (d60 14 bolt, gm 350 something or other) , make it a wheelbase and width that have nothing to do with the original design of the vehicle, weld the differentials to make it as unstreetable as possible, make the body as ugly as possible, maybe throw a taurus fan, astro van coils, or some grand wagoneer leaf springs on there just to please the pirate crowd.

what hasn't been brought up... I think you might be underestimating this project

wheel speed sensors might be your biggest challenge

[jerryg79]

don't you already have a right hand drive cruiser for a "beater"?

[FJAggie07]

don't you already have a right hand drive cruiser for a "beater"?

No. That one is for restoration, not beating, which is coming along, but slowly.

[Sharpe]

Buy a 95 toyota pickup, I hear they make kickass beaters and are priced to sell!

[Seth]

Go for it. Just make usre you know what you are getting into, and that you are sure thats what you want to do. an extra 10 grand would be nice to put into retirement instead of a rig. The Fj in the magazine was sweet, but most anyone else will talk againt it.

[Jackasic]

to quote a famous American "Yes, this is horrible, this idea."

I'll second David's advice, go build a business, or just light the money on fire. It's about the same thing as what you are planning. If you family has you that well off, why not just move to Vegas and play poker. Or maybe that is just my dream ...

[BMFScout]

I always say, You have to spend your money on something. I would drop it off at Sunray if they'll do it. You'll be much happier with the finished product, and since money's not an issue it will be badass.

How far are you wanting to take it? I for one never want glass in an off-road truck again, it sucks to clean up and is sharp. If you want to build something to drive to Utah or Colorado, wheel everything there then drive home I think you could make a very cool SAS rig. If you want to build something like Scott or John are currently building, pretty extreme, I say start with one in worse shape or something else since you will basically be hacking everything off of it anyway. I say do it, it'll be entertaining if nothing else.

[tigweld]

are we talking a shop built first rig or a garage built first rig. cutting up a new fjc in a garage for your first project does not sound 2 promising. I find it funny how many off-roaders will cut up perfectly good cars(I am semi-guilty of this), in other motorsports they all buy salvage cars or bodies in white and build off that.

[FJAggie07]

First off my family doesn't have me "that well off". This has nothing to do with my family, I make my own money, so before all you people starting putting your noses in the air thinking i am as spoiled as Robbie or Sharpe (:flipoff2: I am giving ya'll a hard time) this is the money I have earned.

Second I plan on having this professionally done, a SAS that is done by a shop so that I can drive it to Moab if I wanted to.

Ok I think everyone may have the wrong idea of what I am proposing. I am not looking at going extreme here (extreme being relative here) and I am not planning on starting it tomorrow either. For the money I am planning on putting into it I want to design every aspect of it perfectly and it may take 6 months it may take a year, but most of ya'll can kiss my ass. I think having 6 cars and a complete pick-a-part sitting in my yard looking like inbred trailer trash is insane but you don't hear me telling ya'll what to do ;). Just throwing out the idea if you think it is bad great, but most of ya'll havent even met me and don't know how much I really could care less and want to explore some new ground.

That being said keep on telling me that it is a bad idea, so I can continue to say I don't care :)

[redcagepatrol]

I like the idea of building an FJC the right way and having a nice Tundra tow rig - and have a beater to play with while you are buiding the FJC for 6mo to a year. It will be pretty cool to have the only built FJC on the trail (as you are probably already aware of)

It sucks not having a rig to wheel while you are building something.

So - buy a beater for like $2000 (something without a top - a Sami for instance) that already is locked and has some 33's or 35's. Start the FJ build.

Sounds like a fun project :gigem:

The way we are set up is: mine is the beater, hers will be the nice, clean, correctly built right trail rig. We have a daily driver and a seperate tow rig too - so all my bases are covered.

[Doug Krebs]

The way we are set up is: mine is the beater, hers will be the nice, clean, correctly built right trail rig. We have a daily driver and a seperate tow rig too - so all my bases are covered.

And you have a sweet ass! So you're bases are definately covered! :rainbow:

I like the idea, as in the beginning I tried to do this with the blazer. While I could have kept it road worthy, the outside would still get bashed. If you have proper protection and you're prepared for that great. I still can't see doing it to that nice of a vehicle though.

I'd look for a wrecked one like previously mentioned.

[agjohn02]

yes, you should do it. it is a fantabulous idea. maybe you could do a monocoil set-up. i will copy you when you are done.



http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=584813

[Sharpe]

First off my family doesn't have me "that well off". This has nothing to do with my family, I make my own money, so before all you people starting putting your noses in the air thinking i am as spoiled as Robbie or Sharpe (:flipoff2: I am giving ya'll a hard time) this is the money I have earned.


I think having 6 cars and a complete pick-a-part sitting in my yard looking like inbred trailer trash is insane but you don't hear me telling ya'll what to do ;).
OH NO YOU DID-ENT!Damn two rips on me in one post, thats just dirty! :flipoff2:

[CheapJeep]

thinking i am as spoiled as Robbie or Sharpe (:flipoff2: I am giving ya'll a hard time) this is the money I have earned.
It may be true that I'm fortunate enough to have parents that help me out financial wise. But my dad and I enjoy spending time and money on our automotive activities and I work 2 jobs to help pay for my stuff. Everyone here works and "earns their money" just like you but you don't hear them talking about how well off they are with money to throw away.

Do what you want with your FJC, it's your money and your project. Just know that once you tear it apart there will be no turning back, no regrets hopefully. Flem got it right about everyone and their brother throwing a 350, d60, 14blt in an old rig but what you're talking about doing to a new 2007 vehicle takes commitment, "brains", and balls. St. John and Jimmy summed up what I think could pose a big issue. Having a shop with the right tools and knowledge to do it right is the key so that it doesn't turn out a hack job or nightmare never to be finished in your garage.

[agjohn02]

throwing a 350, d60, 14blt in an old rig


yes, putting together a proven combination and wheeling it is much more boring than coming up with something new and having to work the kinks out of an inferior rig.:rolleyes: the facts of off-roading are you need torque and/or gearing,a strong drivetrain, and an exterior that can take abuse.

oh and robbie, dont defend your "spoiled-ness", enjoy it. even if im the one picking on it. you sound like chadnutz when you do. :flipoff2:

dan at ruffstuff was telling me about a fjc he bought for dirt cheap b/c a guy had taken it on the rubicon and totaled it with no body damage.

[FJAggie07]

OH NO YOU DID-ENT!Damn two rips on me in one post, thats just dirty! :flipoff2:


Ah hunny you know I love Pigpen... She just ugly!


(momma's boy! :flipoff2: )

[FJAggie07]

It may be true that I'm fortunate enough to have parents that help me out financial wise. But my dad and I enjoy spending time and money on our automotive activities and I work 2 jobs to help pay for my stuff. Everyone here works and "earns their money" just like you but you don't hear them talking about how well off they are with money to throw away.

Do what you want with your FJC, it's your money and your project. Just know that once you tear it apart there will be no turning back, no regrets hopefully. Flem got it right about everyone and their brother throwing a 350, d60, 14blt in an old rig but what you're talking about doing to a new 2007 vehicle takes commitment, "brains", and balls. St. John and Jimmy summed up what I think could pose a big issue. Having a shop with the right tools and knowledge to do it right is the key so that it doesn't turn out a hack job or nightmare never to be finished in your garage.

Robbie I know nothing of your financial situation I was just making a joke cause you have a nice truck and a nice rig while still in college and I saw you bring your dad out to TCC and it is pretty cool ya'll can enjoy that together.

After all that being said, yeah I am bragging about my money! No I am just lonely and bored after college with nothing to spend my money on but my gf's engagement ring.

[agjohn02]

No I am just lonely and bored after college with nothing to spend my money on but my gf's engagement ring.


***, that will take care of your money spending problem in the long run too.

[Seth]

I am plenty broke so all of you guys wiping your ass with 20s can just mail them to me instead.

[stx4wheeler]

Quote
After all that being said, yeah I am bragging about my money! No I am just lonely and bored after college with nothing to spend my money on but my gf's engagement ring.[/QUOTE]


i have a cherry 78 bronco body and frame i will let go cheap :flipoff2: , hell give me the fjc, and ill give you the whole complete truck

[Jackasic]

I am plenty broke so all of you guys wiping your ass with 20s can just mail them to me instead.

pssh, c-notes baby!

[FJAggie07]

i have a cherry 78 bronco body and frame i will let go cheap :flipoff2: , hell give me the fjc, and ill give you the whole complete truck

...cherry....yeah.... :p

[FJAggie07]

Alright went to Expert Offroad (www.expertoffroad.com) today during lunch to start planning this out... I have kind of broken down my rough estimation of what I am going to do...

Current Obstacles:
-Converting Rack and Pinion Steering to regular ol box?
-Wheel Sensors for ABS (how do i fool the computer?)
-What combination of Suspension should I run? (leaf, coil spring, coil over, 3-link, 4-link...the possibilities are endless!)
-FJ80 axle or D44 or D60 (if I go D60 I would have to change out the rear I think and I dont think I want to take it that far...)

What I do know:
-4.88 Gears (want to run 37's so I want to keep the highway speed)
-ARB locker if I go with the D44, if I go FJ80 axle I will try and get one with the Toyota E-Locker
-It is goin to be badass

Right now I am thinking Dana 44, and I am thinking I want to build the axle myself but have never tackled this kind of project, how hard is it to find an axle housing and build it all yourself? How hard is it to set gears and install a locker? I am just starting to break the ice on this stuff and it is going to be a long road but I am pumped!