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Graystroke
09-29-2006, 08:11 AM
Any MET's or ME's have a weld procedure book or know from experience if 1010 steel and 1018 steel have the same weld procedures? I got a bid on some nuts out of 1018, the print specs out 1010. It is a weld nut. I know the 1018 is better material just wanna make sure the client company doesn't need to change weld procedures. Websites or scans from a textbook would be awesome! Thanks

KrazyKarl02
09-29-2006, 09:15 AM
Any MET's or ME's have a weld procedure book or know from experience if 1010 steel and 1018 steel have the same weld procedures? I got a bid on some nuts out of 1018, the print specs out 1010. It is a weld nut. I know the 1018 is better material just wanna make sure the client company doesn't need to change weld procedures. Websites or scans from a textbook would be awesome! Thanks

I have a book on arc welding in the office, but I am not going to consult it for this. The difference in 1010 and 1018 steel is the 1018 steel has slightly more carbon, it is still in the low carbon range. I would not think there would be any difference in the procedure.

KrazyKarl02
09-29-2006, 09:20 AM
The spec's for these steels are as follows:
Carbon Mn P,max S,max
1010 .08-.13% .30-.60 .040 .050
1018 .15-.20% .70-1.0 .040 .050

The Mn is usually added to increase ductility, from what I know of welding procedures, if the heat treat and forming processes for these steels are the same (which they should be if the designation of 1010 and 1018 is right) then you should weld them the same.

Graystroke
09-29-2006, 10:03 AM
I new the differences...I'm not that dumb....I guess I could look at the heat treat....who has Dr. Morgan's old ENTC materials book was it ENTC 207?

Graystroke
09-29-2006, 10:27 AM
it is only 10 vs. 18% C so I'm guesing a few degrees. I found the chart. The old Iron Carbon Equilibrium Diagram. Fun times!

Graystroke
09-29-2006, 10:28 AM
does anyone still use a 1010 anymore

BMFScout
09-29-2006, 10:33 AM
tell them to just set the mig on high and everything will be awesome. It's going to Mexico anyway right?

AggieTJ2007
09-29-2006, 10:34 AM
heat treat is going to be the same since they are the same P-number.
Also weld procedures will be the same because they are a similar base metal

Graystroke
09-29-2006, 10:46 AM
tell them to just set the mig on high and everything will be awesome. It's going to Mexico anyway right?
no not mexico usa

BMFScout
09-29-2006, 11:08 AM
Well Mexico first, then back to the USA right? Nobody makes **** here anymore, we're just consumers.

AggieTJ2007
09-29-2006, 11:33 AM
I looked them up and both are listed under ASTM A29 so you will be able to interchange w/o changing weld procedures

robertf03
09-29-2006, 05:28 PM
Well Mexico first, then back to the USA right? Nobody makes **** here anymore, we're just consumers.


we make ****, but we set the TIG on high :flipoff2:

dreed
10-02-2006, 01:07 AM
According to "The Procedure Handbook of Arc Welding, 14th ed."
"Steels with very low carbon contents- 0.00% to .30%- are good welding steels , but they are not the best for high speed production welding. The low carbon content and the low manganese content ( to .30%) tend to produce internal porosity. This is usually corrected by using a slower weld speed. If the presence of some internal porosity has no detrimental effect on service requirements, then standard high speed welding procedures can be used......Steels with .15-.20% carbon seldom require anything beyond standard welding procedures and can be welded with all types of mild-steel electrodes."