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Reckless
10-30-2006, 08:37 PM
Well I guess I'm gonna start a thread on my CJ 7. I have a 1984 CJ 7 pretty much stock. I built some bumpers out of 2 7/8 drill stem, ramsey 8000 winch, 4 IPF lights, mickey thompson classic II wheels and rhino lining for the interor. It has a 4.2 I6 and an auto tranny.

I came across a 80's chevy 1 ton frame with the dana 60 front passenger drop, 203 t-case, turbo 400 and a 14 bolt rear for $200.

I plan on dropping the 60 and the 14 bolt into the Cj, rebuild the I6 or rebuild a TBI 350 in the work truck. I'm thinking some where in the range of 3-5in spring over with hummer wheels and 38s

Reckless
10-30-2006, 08:43 PM
here is more...

eight
10-30-2006, 08:57 PM
You've allready got a good transmission and transfer case. That should have a tf999. If the 258's good I'd run it as is for now, if not, find a good 360 to drop in. It will bolt up but you will need to change one motor mount bracket and extend a wire. Don't waste money rebuilding a 258.

I think that th400/203 combo is worth some good money to chevy peoples. Is that truck a dually?

Reckless
10-30-2006, 09:10 PM
yea but i have another 14 bolt that I am going to use for the rear. Do you know where a good 304 is? I have a 92 chevy that I am either going to steal the TBI setup out of or rebuild the whole engine. It has a good chrome grill guard that I am selling to Creighton's roommate and was planing to keep the 203 for a 203/205 doubler. But if the price is right i will sell almost everything but the 60 and the driveshafts.

eight
10-30-2006, 11:39 PM
I was just thinking you could use stock H1 wheels like Andy did. Still leaves it pretty wide, but no wider than alot of people have with single wheel axles and those low backspaced 15x10s.

Why would you want a 304? The 360 not only gets you more displacement, but it gets you the better heads too. And its alot more common. You should be looking for a 401.

Since you allready have the 92 rebuilding that engine and going with the 400 and 203 to d300 would probably be worth doing. Well at least if it has a 350 and not one of those crappy little motors. Probably gonna want to get that 400 rebuilt.

colman
10-31-2006, 08:53 AM
get a 360 and use the tbi, i'm going to make a jeep harness in about a week if you wana come over and do yours with me cause its finally time to infect the jeep

CRaSHnBuRN
10-31-2006, 09:05 AM
propane

Reckless
10-31-2006, 01:08 PM
I thought about the 203/300 combo, but advanced adapters wants 800 bucks for that adapter

Reckless
10-31-2006, 01:11 PM
Ok, what springs would i be looking for for this setup into the CJ. The truck frame has hevy duty all around. Also, some one school me in U-Joints.

Sharpe
10-31-2006, 01:25 PM
Yah the springs on the donor truck frame are probably too big for the CJ, but I might buy them from you. Your D60 has a 1310 on the pinion and the rear should be a 14 bolt and it will have a 1350. Easy to find stuff.

eight
10-31-2006, 02:02 PM
I think someone on pirate was selling the 203/300 adapter for about $450.

Reckless
10-31-2006, 02:23 PM
Then if the springs are too big, what do I need or be good for lift and flex, cause im gonna have to outboard the springs on the cj frame anyways. The front calipers are shot, so what is good to replace and cheap. Hummer tires and wheels are what im planing on for now. Im broke as it is. What about boxing in the frame? I plan on bracing the front and rear, the steering box. The TBI set up, im going to buy the harness that sharpe posted awhile back, because the donor truck is a rat hotel and just to elimitate all possible ****ups on the wiring.

Reckless
10-31-2006, 02:23 PM
I think someone on pirate was selling the 203/300 adapter for about $450.

Post up the link

eight
10-31-2006, 02:32 PM
An 84 should have a boxed frame.

Use the rear cj springs on the front and those RE SOA springs from robbie for the rear.

Find link yourself.

CRaSHnBuRN
10-31-2006, 02:34 PM
once again, propane. Much cheaper and easier than fuel injection

DRAGOONRANCH
10-31-2006, 02:44 PM
once again, propane. Much cheaper and easier than fuel injection

x2, and then when you finish yours, come do mine. :gigem:

Reckless
10-31-2006, 03:14 PM
Ed, do you have a shop i can store or work on this thing while im down here?

DRAGOONRANCH
10-31-2006, 03:29 PM
Yes and no, you could probably put it in the barn, but it has a dirt floor and no power. An extension cord could be used though. You are more than welcome to the tools too. Its about a 45 mile drive for you though, so you might take that into consideration. I will call home and fiind out if there is a spot open in there. Should be since the beast and the heep are both off gettin worked on.

DRAGOONRANCH
10-31-2006, 03:30 PM
I will talk to my bro, you could probably put it under the carport in his spot when you work on it.

eight
10-31-2006, 04:01 PM
Propane isn't any cheaper.

Reckless
10-31-2006, 07:56 PM
Ed, im mostly needing a welder and a torch, but hopefully i get that done during christmas

CRaSHnBuRN
10-31-2006, 10:03 PM
Propane isn't any cheaper.

how much is fuel injection? The previous owner I believe spent less than 200 bucks to convert the buggy.

eight
10-31-2006, 10:12 PM
I spent about $200, but I think I included the distributor in that and the stock one on most motors will work, I had a ****ty one. Seeing as he has all the parts allready he'll only need to buy a fuel pump or graft the chevy one into the tank. Well that and get a non-rat-eaten harness.

DRAGOONRANCH
10-31-2006, 11:30 PM
Yeah, they are at your disposal. Just call my bro at 254-721-5815 to set something up when you need it.

BMFScout
10-31-2006, 11:42 PM
You have to buy the throttle body, compruta, and wiring harness from the yard. The rest is basically free from pick and pulls. I think they must run a deal if you buy those parts, the rest is free. I never really checked, just took advantage of it. I am advertising on my Scout for Awesome in Dallas via a bumper sticker, that has to be worth something to them. :gigem: I guess there is also a fuel pump, fuel line, filter, O2 bung, etc. I say I have around $200-ish in mine. I would think propane might be easier, and if you bought a kit to fuel inject it, propane would be way cheaper. It really comes down to the fact that I get off on the smell of burning gasoline , forklifts just don't do it for me.

eight
10-31-2006, 11:59 PM
Buy computer?

Doug Krebs
11-01-2006, 12:06 AM
I would always prefer gas for the availablity. Propane just seems to be more of a hassle.

eight
11-01-2006, 12:16 AM
I think about propane for my buggy. It would work nicely for the turbo with the highish compression.

Reckless
11-01-2006, 09:08 PM
Thanks Ed, ill let him know somthing when I do. Im gonna try to work on it as much as possible during thanksgiving and the christmas break.

Reckless
11-02-2006, 12:44 PM
What other kind of springs could I use, i saw the ford thread and it got me to thinking?

AggieTJ2007
11-02-2006, 02:04 PM
ide just go stock springs, spring over and outboard, maybe some YJ springs, keep it low and trim the fenders

CRaSHnBuRN
11-02-2006, 02:55 PM
What other kind of springs could I use, i saw the ford thread and it got me to thinking?

quite honestly, you can use anything you want. The thinner the leafs are, and the more of them, the better it will flex. Offset center pins allow you to push the axle further forward or back, and of course the longer they are the more they will generally flex. A good thing to have in the front is military wrap, as it helps the springs live longer and not break or kink as easily. Toy 48" rears have these (79-89), and work well, but are getting harder to come by, though I just found that the 2wd toyota springs are the same length, and alot of yards seem to have them

fbronco86
11-02-2006, 03:07 PM
I think about propane for my buggy. It would work nicely for the turbo with the highish compression.


Anit got no gas its propane!

Reckless
11-15-2006, 07:31 PM
The t-case in the truck frame behind the 400 is a 203 correct?

eight
11-15-2006, 09:04 PM
si

Graystroke
11-15-2006, 09:18 PM
your d60 donor truck has bilsteins!

tigweld
11-16-2006, 08:47 AM
The t-case in the truck frame behind the 400 is a 203 correct?

is it for sale?

Reckless
11-16-2006, 02:17 PM
nope

tigweld
11-16-2006, 03:52 PM
not even for the right amount of cash?

Reckless
11-16-2006, 03:56 PM
im doing a 203/205 combo

tigweld
11-16-2006, 04:02 PM
trade u a working th350/ 203 and 1/3 a nwf adapter(they sell the pieces seperate as part of mine is modified u would need the center adapter and a plate for a chevy 205 if that is what you are using) and some cash

Reckless
11-16-2006, 06:19 PM
let me think about it and ill let ya know

Reckless
11-22-2006, 01:23 AM
Well, got the 60 and the transmission out today. Anybody want to buy a 14bt dually axle?

Reckless
11-25-2006, 01:32 AM
Tore the tranny and 203 apart. lots of water in tcase and tranny, clutch packs and pump rusted in places but the valve body seems to be in good shape. No rust visible in t-case. tore the D60 down some more and banged calipers off. Pictures to follow soon.

redcagepatrol
11-26-2006, 08:35 PM
coming in a little late to this thread...

That's a nice CJ - sell it and build a strong beater that you don't have to worry about body damage on. You can get some decent money for that CJ...

Reckless
11-27-2006, 12:39 AM
It was my first vehical and what started my love for jeeps so i gotta do it to this one.

Reckless
11-30-2006, 12:44 PM
Well, after talking with feller last night, im putting the jeep aside and building up the donor truck of the motor. its a 92 Z71 1/2 tun ext cab.

CRaSHnBuRN
11-30-2006, 02:25 PM
I'm such a bad influence :flipoff2:

CRaSHnBuRN
11-30-2006, 02:47 PM
so did the tranny get the okay?

Reckless
11-30-2006, 03:29 PM
not yet, still debating. Any new names for the truck since im changing the thread or just leave it the same?

DRAGOONRANCH
11-30-2006, 03:36 PM
mothball this thread and "ed" it (the half of the zulu tribe that is using the computers around me looked at me real funny when I laughed at that when I saw that earlier Jerry) and start another one. No help on the name, wait till we start drinkin then we will get one figured out.

redcagepatrol
11-30-2006, 07:32 PM
Well, after talking with feller last night, im putting the jeep aside and building up the donor truck of the motor. its a 92 Z71 1/2 tun ext cab.
Don't build a fullsize. Worthless on the trail. Put all that crap in a Toyota or a suziki or a cheap Jeep

Doug Krebs
11-30-2006, 09:13 PM
Don't build a fullsize. Worthless on the trail. Put all that crap in a Toyota or a suziki or a cheap Jeep

Seriously, build something lighter and smaller. If you don't you'll still have fun, but you'll eventually want something smaller.

eight
11-30-2006, 09:22 PM
Yes, build a sidekick. I'll trade you a good one for your jeep. 96 sport model, very low miles. I think it'd work great with some rockwells and fortysomethins.

CheapJeep
11-30-2006, 09:41 PM
Don't build a fullsize. Worthless on the trail. Put all that crap in a Toyota or a suziki or a cheap Jeep
Irony...

eight
11-30-2006, 10:02 PM
OK if not, I found you somethin.

http://austin.craigslist.org/car/240876426.html

Reckless
11-30-2006, 11:00 PM
im gonna try the "foolsize" with the money ive got now, plus like scott and others have said, the jeep is in great conditon. if bad comes to worse, ill do somthin different but its all there and ready to go and a lot cheaper to do it.

TxCruzr
11-30-2006, 11:02 PM
Irony...

I think if he swapped "cheap" out for "****tay" then it would have been irony :flipoff2:

Sharpe is a good example of what happens to a fullsize trail rig. Notice how he is chopping parts off and I'm sure after clayon it will be even less fullsize.

Reckless
11-30-2006, 11:04 PM
true but i really dont care at the moment, aint worried bout the body, as feller mentioned, im gonna "beer can" it

TxCruzr
11-30-2006, 11:05 PM
im gonna try the "foolsize" with the money ive got now, plus like scott and others have said, the jeep is in great conditon. if bad comes to worse, ill do somthin different but its all there and ready to go and a lot cheaper to do it.

Starting out with a rig that is in good condition either makes you want to keep it that way and learn to drive better or allows you to make the purist cringe everytime you go out.

CheapJeep
11-30-2006, 11:38 PM
I think if he swapped "cheap" out for "****tay" then it would have been irony :flipoff2:
You are gay.

P.S. If you haven't realized cruisers are wannabe jeeps, hence the fj, fake jeep....which makes mine a helluvalot better than yours. :flipoff2:

P.S.S. You are still gay.

CheapJeep
11-30-2006, 11:40 PM
Well, after talking with feller last night, im putting the jeep aside and building up the donor truck of the motor. its a 92 Z71 1/2 tun ext cab.
So what's the plan on this? You really can't use much from your 70's truck as far as drivetrain goes because the d60 is wrong side drop. I'm guessing your wanting to SAS it too?

Reckless
12-01-2006, 12:00 AM
sas and the 241/205 doubler

CheapJeep
12-01-2006, 12:08 AM
You going to make your own bracket's and mounts or order a kit from ORD?

Reckless
12-01-2006, 12:13 AM
i was looking at the DD machine one

sasquatch
12-01-2006, 12:19 AM
careful he's popping a stiffy over your truck as a truggy

Reckless
12-01-2006, 12:38 AM
that thought has crossed my mind, its gonna be a pig pen, but gas and newer!!!

AggieTJ2007
12-01-2006, 01:18 AM
yeah, go 241 doubler. **** cheap jeeps, just throw the axles in, weld some **** up, but in a doulber and flog it

Plus I love the sound of cruching **** metal

Sharpe
12-01-2006, 02:02 AM
As I've said before, the happy medium for a wheelin rig is halfway between a fullsize and a jeep-sized vehicle. You can start at either end of the spectrum and work your way towards the middle. I find it cheaper to start at the large end and chop and hack my way down than to start at the small end and lengthen, clearance and stretch my way up.

Sharpe
12-01-2006, 02:04 AM
Or you could just say "**** building anything" and run whatcha brung...

eight
12-01-2006, 09:06 AM
If you build that truck all you'll have is a big piece of **** with some decent axles. It'd be just as easy to build an s10 or dakota. The s10 can be found cheap with the 4.3 and do the 231/d300 doubler, and the dakota is common with the 3.7 v6 and not hard to find with the 318 v8, and a d300 bolts up in it. I can't figure out why more people don't build these instead of the no powered ifs toyodas. You're gonna swap axles anyway and doublers are just as available, so might as well get a truck that's allready got a real motor. And they cost a couple grand less to start with.

Doug Krebs
12-01-2006, 01:51 PM
If you build that truck all you'll have is a big piece of **** with some decent axles. It'd be just as easy to build an s10 or dakota. The s10 can be found cheap with the 4.3 and do the 231/d300 doubler, and the dakota is common with the 3.7 v6 and not hard to find with the 318 v8, and a d300 bolts up in it. I can't figure out why more people don't build these instead of the no powered ifs toyodas. You're gonna swap axles anyway and doublers are just as available, so might as well get a truck that's allready got a real motor. And they cost a couple grand less to start with.

I agree... I'd do an S10. I actually looked for S10 cabs for a while to put on the blazer frame.