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BIGJIMMY
04-26-2007, 12:22 PM
I went to mack bolt and bought steel for the rock sliders, i got 1/8 thick 1 1/2 x 4 in rectangle tubing, and 1 1/2'' x 1/8'' square tubing, do yall think that will be strong enough for the weekend? They didnt have 3/16 thik rect tubing

CRaSHnBuRN
04-26-2007, 12:54 PM
What kind of design are you going with for the sliders? Most sliders you can buy are .120 wall round tubing, so it should work depending on how heavy the truck is and how well its gusseted. I personally would want something a little thicker and probably a little larger than 1.5", but thats just me. Katemcy does have a way of grinding away metal. If you can it wouldn't hurt to put some plates on the frame and mount the legs of the sliders to them to help distribute the forces.


BTW, make sure to add the cost of the steel to the steel thread so we can keep that as up to date as possible

Doug Krebs
04-26-2007, 01:10 PM
I went to mack bolt and bought steel for the rock sliders, i got 1/8 thick 1 1/2 x 4 in rectangle tubing, and 1 1/2'' x 1/8'' square tubing, do yall think that will be strong enough for the weekend? They didnt have 3/16 thik rect tubing

Do you care about the body of your blazer? If not you should just cut out the rocker boxes and weld in 3/16ths box. It actually looks decent.

If you were planning on welding to the frame it won't be strong enough without attatching it to the body somehow. The frames are too narrow... 1/8th is a waste of time if you want it to last.

BIGJIMMY
04-26-2007, 01:30 PM
I got some plates from them precut by bargaining with them, i believe they are 1/8'' also, i could weld those to the frame and weld the legs onto them, but i could maybe make a mount that is welded to the leg and bolts onto the body mount bolt, would that make a difference? I really just want survive this weekend, and not spend a butt load of dough doing it. This is my first time to rock crawl and dont if ill be able to do it again for a long time.

BIGJIMMY
04-26-2007, 01:30 PM
and how do fullsizes suck by the way?

Doug Krebs
04-26-2007, 01:36 PM
I got some plates from them precut by bargaining with them, i believe they are 1/8'' also, i could weld those to the frame and weld the legs onto them, but i could maybe make a mount that is welded to the leg and bolts onto the body mount bolt, would that make a difference? I really just want survive this weekend, and not spend a butt load of dough doing it. This is my first time to rock crawl and dont if ill be able to do it again for a long time.

I'd suggest doing nothing if you don't have the time to do it right. If they aren't strong enough they'll just dent your body easier since they decrease body clearance.

I'll just sell you my body and you won't have to worry about denting it.

Doug Krebs
04-26-2007, 01:37 PM
and how do fullsizes suck by the way?

Wheel one for a couple of years and you'll figure it out.

BIGJIMMY
04-26-2007, 01:50 PM
i got the time, i just want to know if it will hold up for sat and sunday, and i can do it right

Doug Krebs
04-26-2007, 01:55 PM
well spend the time and do it and see if it works! I know I've bent my 1/8 wall on my bumper very easily and it doesn't hit that often.

CRaSHnBuRN
04-26-2007, 02:04 PM
is this a fullsize jimmy? **** in that case go get some 1/4, you're gonna need it. listen to krebs, he knows what he is talking about

CRaSHnBuRN
04-26-2007, 02:09 PM
I got some plates from them precut by bargaining with them, i believe they are 1/8'' also, i could weld those to the frame and weld the legs onto them, but i could maybe make a mount that is welded to the leg and bolts onto the body mount bolt, would that make a difference? I really just want survive this weekend, and not spend a butt load of dough doing it. This is my first time to rock crawl and dont if ill be able to do it again for a long time.

do it right, once. If Mack doesn't have it, go to bryan iron & metal. They may have what you need. Depending on where you go when you are at katemcy, you may not even need the sliders. Just avoid places that will tear stuff like that up. The first time I went to katemcy, I really tore up my DOM sliders and bumpers (all .120) and this was on a sub 4k pound Toyota pickup, but most of it really depends on what trails you run

opps, forgot the reason I quoted you. If those plates are the little square ones with 4 holes in them, and they are only 1/8 inch, they are probably not up to the task

73bronco
04-26-2007, 02:30 PM
I wouldn't use anything less than 3/16 for sliders. I've managed to even bend my 2x4 3/16th bumper at katemcy so 1/8" definatly isn't big enough

Sharpe
04-26-2007, 02:54 PM
I'll take you down looney tunes and show you why you need thicker metal for the sliders.

JeepPhisherman
04-26-2007, 02:56 PM
I'll take you down looney tunes and show you why you need thicker metal for the sliders.

Trust him, his e-wang is HUUUUUUUUUGE!

Sharpe
04-26-2007, 02:58 PM
Trust him, his e-wang is HUUUUUUUUUGE!
???

BIGJIMMY
04-26-2007, 04:45 PM
well i dont plan on trashing my truck this weekend, probably not goin down looney tunes by the way your talkin, Ill see how it goes, i talked to different people and some said 1/8'' is fine and yall said it wont. Im gonna have to take my chances cuz im po

RCcola55
04-26-2007, 05:02 PM
Trust him, his e-wang is HUUUUUUUUUGE!
you wheel what?

FJAggie07
04-26-2007, 07:10 PM
you wheel what?

bwahahaha

Sharpe
04-26-2007, 11:25 PM
One option with the 1/8 wall **** is to weld some angle iron on the lower outside corner to help brace it against the rocks. This wont do anything to support your frame braces on the inside but it will keep the tube from buckling if everything else holds up.

As far as the e-wang comment, I know Garrett has not been down looney tunes. I walked it first and was a little skeptical about pigpen being able to do it but my corpus homies convinced me so I took a stab at it. The guy in front of me flopped on his side at one point. He drives a jeep on 42's. I rode my boatsides across about half of the entire trail and on one part I crushed the unsupported passenger side slider in cramming pigpen's 7' wide body through a 5' wide space between two huge granite boulders. The trail was a blast and was probably the hardest one I have ever done anywhere, and its deffinately the hardest I've seen at Katemcy.

RCcola55
04-27-2007, 12:06 AM
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73bronco
04-27-2007, 12:42 AM
Looneytoons is a badass trail, not exactly fullsize friendly though

JeepPhisherman
04-27-2007, 08:11 AM
you wheel what?

The only truck I have....?

JeepPhisherman
04-27-2007, 08:13 AM
One option with the 1/8 wall **** is to weld some angle iron on the lower outside corner to help brace it against the rocks. This wont do anything to support your frame braces on the inside but it will keep the tube from buckling if everything else holds up.

As far as the e-wang comment, I know Garrett has not been down looney tunes. I walked it first and was a little skeptical about pigpen being able to do it but my corpus homies convinced me so I took a stab at it. The guy in front of me flopped on his side at one point. He drives a jeep on 42's. I rode my boatsides across about half of the entire trail and on one part I crushed the unsupported passenger side slider in cramming pigpen's 7' wide body through a 5' wide space between two huge granite boulders. The trail was a blast and was probably the hardest one I have ever done anywhere, and its deffinately the hardest I've seen at Katemcy.

Yea, I don't really know what that comment was about either, I had just finished some beer after ****ing with the truck.