project 350 [Archive]

colman

10-31-2007, 12:31 AM

so what is the best setup for an offroad chevy 350. (that being said i know ther are hundreds of opinions I'm just looking to get some ideas)

i already have a good long block with one piece rear main, exact year unknown, and a tbi setup and hopefully soon a serpentine setup. now i'm looking for what to do with the internals

I was thinking:
hot tank block and heads and if good (looks good so far but i haven't got the crank out yet) reuse good pistons and rods and crank
new bearings and rings
use stock heads
rv cam

call it a day.

I'm not grying to make a stroker or do anything huge, just get a reliable moderatly powerfull efficient v8

Sharpe

10-31-2007, 07:23 AM

I have serpentine setup I sell you.

colman

10-31-2007, 05:56 PM

anyone have any advice? so i guess that this is a good setup then? does anyone have a favorite place to order rebuild kits.

Sharpe

10-31-2007, 06:14 PM

Scoggins Dickey

agjohn02

10-31-2007, 06:16 PM

rv cam

colman

10-31-2007, 10:08 PM

rv cam

is that to tell me you second my decision in the original post or to tell me i'm an idiot

uglyota

10-31-2007, 10:09 PM

it was probably to tell you that he's an idiot

Reckless

10-31-2007, 11:34 PM

Scoggin Dickey is an hour from my house, I know a few guys that build the engines for them, I may can help get ya a discount with them. Beer or Liquor is a good start for bribeing me.

robertf03

10-31-2007, 11:39 PM

is it scoggin or dickey himself? I'm pretty sure they build their own stuff.

Reckless

10-31-2007, 11:40 PM

its a co-partnership

Fredo

11-01-2007, 12:09 AM

rv cam all the way!

robertf03

11-01-2007, 12:28 AM

these guys have the best prices
http://www.cherokeervparts.com/

jerryg79

11-01-2007, 05:47 AM

pace performance has better prices then scoggins dickey and you dont have to pay tax since outside texas. The shipping is a little more but even so, i saved about $300 buying the red rocket motor from them.

TxCruzr

11-01-2007, 08:16 AM

Look around online. I'll try to find the place I got my stuff from but it was cheaper then from S&D also. Also checkout ebay, a few of the online companies I looked at were also selling stuff on there and you could get it for even less.

mudtoy67

11-01-2007, 08:22 AM

Check out Eaker Performance. He's local (Bryan) and sometimes is cheaper than the catalogs. 979-775-7223

BMFScout

11-01-2007, 09:03 AM

I've got a 3/4 cam in my scout, it's like an RV cam but better!

jerryg79

11-01-2007, 09:26 AM

I've got a 3/4 cam in my scout, it's like an RV cam but better!

does that mean you got 25% off? Good deal!

BMFScout

11-01-2007, 09:37 AM

It's got 3/4 the HP of any equally heavy engine.

Fredo

11-01-2007, 10:02 AM

I think my scout has a 3/4 cam, or maybe a 1/2 cam because it definitely doesn't have/use all of the cam bearings in the block. :)

By the way, I had thought we had a similar discussion to this before. Pages 1 and 2 have some decent info, beyond that it turns into yacking between me and Jospeh about carb vs. fuel injection.

http://tamor.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4762&highlight=350

Sharpe

11-01-2007, 10:38 AM

The thought of Mario rebuilding an engine entertains me.

uglyota

11-01-2007, 10:41 AM

I bet he'd have your 6.2 together, in the truck and running in a weekend though :flipoff2:

Sharpe

11-01-2007, 10:42 AM

I bet he'd have your 6.2 together, in the truck and running in a weekend though :flipoff2:
While this is true I am more concerned with how long it runs.

colman

11-24-2007, 09:57 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Master-Engine-Rebuild-Kit-87-92-RV-Camshaft_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33620QQihZ016Q QitemZ260150915194

what do yall think of this kit?

TxCruzr

11-26-2007, 01:22 PM

CheapJeep

11-26-2007, 05:34 PM

I paid $150 to get my block bored/honed and $600 for the stroker kit complete.

Seems like a cheap kit, so it's perfect for ya. :gigem:

Fredo

11-26-2007, 05:35 PM

Don't make me bring out the big guns again :flipoff2:

You coming to Clayton or what? We can argue about it over some drinks. :cheers:

Seth

11-26-2007, 06:09 PM

So were you feeling as chipper as me sat morning fredo?

TxCruzr

11-26-2007, 06:20 PM

You coming to Clayton or what? We can argue about it over some drinks. :cheers:

I wish, I got an intern for the spring and have training during the clayton trip :(
I've been putting wheeling aside trying to get through this school crap so hopefully after may I'll be able to hit up some trails with you guys again.

Fredo

11-26-2007, 06:58 PM

So were you feeling as chipper as me sat morning fredo?

If by chipper you mean that you felt like you had been ran through a wood chipper, then yes, I was feeling quite "chipper" saturday. Did you end up sleeping in your truck or did you make it home?

Seth

11-26-2007, 07:04 PM

slept it off for a while. i know i had a beer. then one shot and a beer. then you and me had 3 or 4 and a beer. and some blue drank. its pretty fuzzy beyond that.

colman

11-29-2007, 06:47 PM

went to vilas today to drop off the cam bearings, freeze plugs and pistons so it could get bored and found out my heads are cracked in 5 places. aparently not that uncommon. i have a set from a 86 but the valves on those are really small ( maybe 1/2) the size of the other tbi heads that are cracked. what heads should i look for or should i just use the ones i have with the smaller valves

Graystroke

11-29-2007, 07:38 PM

how much money you have? a set of vortec heads would be cheap and give you a lot of power...have to do some mods to make them work on the intake. or buy some dart sportsman heads (cast iron) and there are some others that are fairly new on the market that Hot Rod just tested I believe last month...I think they were around $400? pair

Graystroke

11-29-2007, 08:46 PM

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?Ntt=cast+iron+heads&N=700+4294908216+400333+4294925008+115+4294867081&Ntk=KeywordSearch

bcolman

11-29-2007, 10:47 PM

http://collegestation.craigslist.org/pts/492754840.html

here are some heads

Graystroke

11-30-2007, 12:25 AM

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?Ntt=cast+iron+heads&N=700+4294908216+4294925008+4294867081+4294840140+ 4294867028+115+400304&Ntk=KeywordSearch
or
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?Ntt=cast+iron+heads&N=700+4294908216+4294925008+4294867081+4294840140+ 4294867028+115+400240&Ntk=KeywordSearch

Graystroke

11-30-2007, 12:27 AM

how much is it going to cost to get them reworked? vales, seats, guides, springs?

it may be cheaper to just buy new world products or summit brand

colman

11-30-2007, 07:39 AM

which ones reworked, i am not sure which ones to use. this is my first chevy motor to build. right now i'm just looking for the best option here in stock or used heads. i read somewhere that the small valves are good for low end torque but i didn't think that made sense. if i were to go with stock what would be the best year to look for? who is the chevy guru around here

DRAGOONRANCH

11-30-2007, 09:55 AM

sharpe is one, but he is more into the oilburners when it comes to powerplants. Fred and jimmy and grayson and flem have said some things that might lead me to believe they knew about the subject somewhat....

[black edit]sharpe is a self proclaimed one, and will spread his useless knowledge like jerry's sister spreads her... uh, better get on another subject before jerry enlists just to get sent over here to kick my ass.[/black edit]

Sharpe

11-30-2007, 10:03 AM

I dont know mota's that well.

Fredo

11-30-2007, 10:12 AM

DRAGOONRANCH

11-30-2007, 10:23 AM

I don't really feel like going back and reading three pages of ****. Answer these questions and I'll try and give you some advice on what heads to run.

-What is this engine going in?
-What cam are you putting in? (be specific, if you say RV Cam, I swear to God I'll drive to College Station and shoot you in the testicles.)
-What pistons did you buy? (flat tops with relief cuts?)
-Fuel Injected or Carb, and what intake manifold?
-Headers or stock exhaust manifolds?

I will try to answer these for ya.

-What is this engine going in?
Jeep

-What cam are you putting in? (be specific, if you say RV Cam, I swear to God I'll drive to College Station and shoot you in the testicles.)
RV Cam (you gotta lotsa swimmin to do biatch) :flipoff:

-What pistons did you buy? (flat tops with relief cuts?)
cheap ones

-Fuel Injected or Carb, and what intake manifold?
FI (IIRC)

-Headers or stock exhaust manifolds?
again, the cheap stuff

Seth

11-30-2007, 05:31 PM

PLEASE say rv cam.

jerryg79

11-30-2007, 05:37 PM

PLEASE say rv cam.

hey farva, what's that place you like to eat, with all the goofy sh!t on the walls?

agjohn02

11-30-2007, 05:40 PM

Shenanigans!

TxCruzr

11-30-2007, 06:06 PM

the picture doesn't fit....also, don't snake threads :flipoff2:

Graystroke

11-30-2007, 10:07 PM

yeah this is not the kitchen...this is a public forum! :rolleyes:

DRAGOONRANCH

11-30-2007, 11:35 PM

the picture doesn't fit....also, don't snake threads :flipoff2:

I knew it was gettin close to that time of year agian. :flipoff2:

colman

12-03-2007, 10:00 PM

does this help?

-What is this engine going in?-cj7 w/ t350, dual cases etc
-What cam are you putting in? (be specific, if you say RV Cam, I swear to God I'll drive to College Station and shoot you in the testicles.) - as much fun as that sounds RV Hydraulic Flat Tappet Camshaft-.420/.443 Lift-204/214 Duration @ .050-112 Lobe Cntr
-What pistons did you buy? (flat tops with relief cuts?) -+.030" Flat-Top Cast Piston Set
-Fuel Injected or Carb, and what intake manifold?- tbi w/ stock manifold
-Headers or stock exhaust manifolds? -probably stock manifolds but if i find something better for a decent price then i will upgrade

agjohn02

12-04-2007, 11:21 AM

-What cam are you putting in? (be specific, if you say RV Cam, I swear to God I'll drive to College Station and shoot you in the testicles.) - as much fun as that sounds RV Hydraulic Flat Tappet Camshaft-.420/.443 Lift-204/214 Duration @ .050-112 Lobe Cntr

he said RV! he said RV!

CheapJeep

12-04-2007, 02:27 PM

pistol whip?

You buy the kit yet? Any pics of progress?

colman

12-04-2007, 07:27 PM

bought the kit, it arrived. villas should be done with the .030 bore and hone this week. and as soon as i find heads, or someone tells me mine are okay to use, i will stab it and start it.

colman

12-04-2007, 09:58 PM

1.72 intake 76 cc chamber does that sound like a good way to go?

Graystroke

12-04-2007, 11:39 PM

John your avatar looks very broke back mountainish...I may need to change rooms for clayton

colman

12-05-2007, 01:56 PM

just got a call from villas, the machine work is done, i will pick it up tomorrow. had them bore it .030, install freeze plugs, cam bearings, hot tank the block and put my new pistons on the old rods. so far
289 for the kit
280 for the machine work (which includes the hot tank for the bad heads)
20 for the tbi intake
15 (in shipping) + a few parts traded for a complete harness, ecm, sensors and rebuilt tbi and 2 fuel pumps
5 for block paint
so for 610 all i need are heads, which i may have i just need to research the casting #'s some more

colman

12-07-2007, 11:24 PM

turns out my bearings for the mains and rods are .010 and i need .001. time to find someone in town that has the same brand and try and trade them or even pay a few bones. i missunderstood the machine shop over the phone so i got the wrong bearings. or if all else fails get new ones and try and sell the ones i have later