Looking at a trail rig

[crain_christoph]

hey guys one of my buddies wants to sell me a early 80s model datsun pickup, and seeing how my dodge is my DD im looking into getting something to wheel in for cheap and this is $300. He says it runs and all the 4 wheel drive works. Its a standard and it IFS are the two main down falls i see. I would be interested in doing a SAS since its just a trail rig. Let me know what you think, good idea or bad? Ill bring it back with me Christmas if i decide to get it.

[mudtoy67]

Could be a very interesting rig. Cheap and oddball rig don't always necessarily go together, but with this group anything's possible. :gigem: Could definitely be fun though. Do an SAS, then if the drivetrain doesn't perform well, a toyota drivetrain probably wouldn't be too hard to source at a good price and would probably fit like a glove.

[Seth]

go for it. for 300 bucks its worth it if you dont have anything else in mind. saves more than that in damage on the dd too. and you can pull it.

[redcagepatrol]

I'd be better to find an old Toyota because the aftermarket supports them but it's hard to beat a $300 4x4 that runs.

I don't know how hard-core you plan to wheel in the future, but If I were to start someplace I would find an old toyota so you don't have to rig a bunch of crap like Chadnutz did with his Mazda. He tried to adapt the Mazda drivetrain to a Toyota case it it just never worked right - he also swapped in a Toyota front axle.

[Seth]

I know a guy who who put a crazy body on a toy drivetrain that turned out pretty slick. Turns out he also built his own frame and put more than a little time into it.

How hard to put a datsun body on a toy frame....

[redcagepatrol]

I know a guy who who put a crazy body on a toy drivetrain that turned out pretty slick. Turns out he also built his own frame and put more than a little time into it.

How hard to put a datsun body on a toy frame....
hmm - must be a cool guy...

The Datsun body on a toy frame - not a bad idea, go for it

[robertf03]

why not leave the toy body on the toy frame instead of swapping for a minitruck body of equal proportions?

find a $300 scout, it will already have SAS and an automatic

[agjohn02]

forget the datsun. listen to everyone. ask faggie07 what happens when you dont.:flipoff2:

[Eckert]

toyotas are cheap. forget the datsun.

who would want a scout :flipoff2: . this is what $300 gets you.


Scout (http://houston.craigslist.org/spo/498824564.html)

[Seth]

Flem - I have dibs on the first 300 dollar scout. FYI the one (2?!) in hockley went for 400. I'd like to hear it run if I'm going over 400 personally.

[uglyota]

Do it, just don't try to go big right away. Beat the snot out of it and learn how to make it cruise obstacles it shouldn't. Upgrade a little at a time, as stuff breaks. Will make you a better driver in the long run (as will the manual tranny)

[robertf03]

toyotas are cheap. forget the datsun.

who would want a scout :flipoff2: . this is what $300 gets you.


Scout (http://houston.craigslist.org/spo/498824564.html)


because everyone is entitled to a free one, they are distributed along the same lines as the draft. Your number will come up eventually.

[agjohn02]

because everyone is entitled to a free one, they are distributed along the same lines as the draft. Your number will come up eventually.


and some people still lose money on them:flipoff2:

[FJAggie07]

forget the datsun. listen to everyone. ask faggie07 what happens when you dont.:flipoff2:

What happens? I end up wheeling more often than you do? :flipoff2:





.....oh wait you have an excuse! You couldn't make time while working on a scooter that went 100 MPH out in the desert and jerking off to your life size poster of Ted Nugent... :flipoff2:

[agjohn02]

life size poster of Ted Nugent...


i wish, if you see one let me know

[mudtoy67]

Flem - I have dibs on the first 300 dollar scout. FYI the one (2?!) in hockley went for 400. I'd like to hear it run if I'm going over 400 personally.


BTW, I live in Hockley....though I guess it's too late now. :)

[Sharpe]

.....oh wait you have an excuse! You couldn't make time while working on a scooter that went 100 MPH out in the desert and jerking off to your life size poster of Ted Nugent... :flipoff2:
:laughing: :laughing:

[bburris]

i wish, if you see one let me know
You might talk to these (http://www.sports-shop.com/fatheads/) guys, they could probably hook that up.

:flipoff2:

[eight]

Get it. Leave it stock, cut out of the way what you can, weld the rear, and find some 31" or so MTs for it. If you kill it, it's probably worth about $200 in scrap. I think those have a divorce transfer case.

[agjohn02]

You might talk to these (http://www.sports-shop.com/fatheads/) guys, they could probably hook that up.

:flipoff2:


they dont have any BMF Fathead wall murals




in other news. i drove the scout today. fix the clicky starter, change fluids and an axle shaft and i might be at 47 on sunday.

[Chadnutz]

Avoid it at all costs. I am still paying for trying to make my Mazda into a Toyota. The biggest mistake I ever made was picking the Mazda over the Toy in the lot because the Mazda said "12 valve." :rolleyes:

[85cj7]

Ryan Clarke sucks :flipoff2:

[FJAggie07]

the datsun already has a new floor and running 33s it cheap. And i just kinda wanna learn what im doing and if it turns out i can turn it into something cool then so be it if i turn it into scrap then i will have some kind of experience off road

Someone forget to sign out?? :confused:

[Seth]

where is this thing?

[sasquatch]

i'm with eric. there's nothing wrong with a standard once you learn how to wheel one. most of the time they are stronger than an auto

[AggieTJ2007]

standards are fine, just add some lower gears

[Graystroke]

http://dallas.craigslist.org/car/499030475.html

[mudtoy67]

Man if this thing is running/driving and only $300, buy it and wheel the piss out of it. If you break it and decide to go further....you can do that. If you break it and decide to junk it, you're only out $300.

[colman]

http://dallas.craigslist.org/car/499030475.html

i have a pass drop d44 that would work with that thing and flat top's that i will sell to make it work

[Chadnutz]

http://dallas.craigslist.org/car/499030475.html

I'm going to buy that if it has a running engine.

[Chadnutz]

I'm going to buy that if it has a running engine.

No engine. :(

[uglyota]

Do it, just don't try to go big right away. Beat the snot out of it and learn how to make it cruise obstacles it shouldn't. Upgrade a little at a time, as stuff breaks. Will make you a better driver in the long run (as will the manual tranny)
I guess I missed the memo that it's quote yourself day, and I want to make sure and get in on this sweet action

[JB]

Give Jeremiah 300 for that trainwreck of a Scout in the Advance parking lot. I am pretty sure he would take it. In two weeks, I am suppose to haul it to fayettvile where it will sit in a field, for decades....really...decades.

It needs alot of work though.....alot......alot.

edit: it comes with maybe $20 worth of chemicals, old tires, used oil, and firewood in the back :D

[mudtoy67]

Man if this thing is running/driving and only $300, buy it and wheel the piss out of it. If you break it and decide to go further....you can do that. If you break it and decide to junk it, you're only out $300.


Who wouldn't want to pimp this thing?!:beer:

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8180/81datsunkc4x4zu2.jpg

[crain_christoph]

I dont want something i cant drive or that needs so much work i will never see the trail. This truck is in my home town and im hoping to have it with me (Behind the Dexter house) by the end of christmas. Im just wondering what i can do as far as a SAS. any suggestions?

[uglyota]

You can SAS anything. Cut the IFS off, weld spring hangers and perches on, bolt springs to spring hangers and ubolt front axle on, make steering work, make brakes work, make a driveshaft that works, make sure you got the same gears front and rear, and you're good to go.

If you don't have any idea how you would go about SASing this truck you should probably not get into the project just yet

like Ryan and I said, get it, put tires on it, and wheel it as is. You will eventually get to the point where you are confident/competent enough to SAS it, but that last post indicates you are not there yet, so don't rush it. Look at all the people in this club who have bought a running rig, then before even wheeling it, hacked it up in hopes of making it the baddest trail rig ever, and all of a sudden it's 2 years later and they've missed out on 10 or 15 trips and are selling everything at a loss.

[AggieTJ2007]

if it has 33's go for it, make the rear supper flexy

33's can go alot of places people don't think that they can.
oh and build a cage, well maybe that is just for me

[Graystroke]

scott, you have any old patrol axles left?

[DRAGOONRANCH]

If you don't have any idea how you would go about SASing this truck you should probably not get into the project just yet



I disagree. Here's how it should read.

If you don't have any idea how you would go about SASing this truck you should probably not get into the biggest pissing match ever on this board just yet, (comma) get the guys in the club to help you design and build one. Listen to what they have to say and then get a torch and go to work. :gigem:

[AggieTJ2007]

thats pretty close but your forgot the part about parking it in someone else's driveway and waiting for the city to tell you that it has to move before finishing it

[TMatheaus]

get the damn thing, put some decent sized tires on it, wheel the piss out of it, and then plan upgrades after you have some wheeling under your belt

also your passanger side headlight is out on the dodge

[DRAGOONRANCH]

creighton, you complete me.

[Eckert]

This truck is in my home town and im hoping to have it with me (Behind the Dexter house) by the end of christmas. Im just wondering what i can do as far as a SAS. any suggestions?

can i keep my **** at dexter too? i want to keep it under ryans cover though.

*cough* i have complete stock axles out of a 82 toyota for sale *cough*

[BroncoJo]

I had a deal like this but I think my buddy wanted 100 and I offered 50. I'm sure what I got was in alot worste shape so I say do it.

[85cj7]

can i keep my **** at dexter too? i want to keep it under ryans cover though.

*cough* i have complete stock axles out of a 82 toyota for sale *cough*

thats my babies' tent:mad:

yah chris, forget the guys that are saying not to get it, its $300 for a running wheel ready 4x4, hell i can't even get parts for the jeep at $300 anymore. If i were you i wouldn't do sh*t to it, just wheel and have fun. WHEN it DOES break, scrap it and and start saving for your real longterm keeper rig. But for the datsun just learn how to wheel smart with it, and it will go along way with any rig you choose to eventually build.

[Eckert]

thats my babies' tent:mad:


couple more fires and it will outgrow it.

does the datsun come with a title?

[85cj7]

yah i'm going have to move it soon, because every time the kiddies have a fire it shrinks from the heat.

[sasquatch]

jump it

[colman]

get it, weld the rear and pull out the sawzall

[crain_christoph]

this is what i have decided!
get it, weld it, sawzall all unwanted sheet metal, build some different bumpers and maybe some sort of cage, and wheel it till the wheels fall off!
And fix the headlight on the dodge

[BMFScout]

toyotas are cheap. forget the datsun.

who would want a scout :flipoff2: . this is what $300 gets you.


Scout (http://houston.craigslist.org/spo/498824564.html)

Looks like a solid start, might be able to get it for $200! :)

[BMFScout]

I'd bet on the scout for the same money.

You can wheel the Datsun 'til the wheels fall off, but I'm also betting it will be the first run to 47. Which for $300 that is fine. I just dropped $300 for 3 tickets to a football game, you will get at least that much enjoyment out of it. Also, if it gives you something to wrench on, you'll learn a lot, just don't listen to Sharpe! Worst case, it breaks something then you patch it together and see how far it will launch.

[Chadnutz]

You can SAS anything.

This isn't entirely true. The front output on my case was a slip yoke. Last time I checked, no one makes a slip yoke eliminator kit for a Mazda. In addition to that, the front output points up a little bit and there was no way I could find a driveshaft that would have made the drop. I would have had to move the axle pretty far forward. There are some details that need to be looked over on that truck before it is determined that a SAS can be done.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

It's all in the details. I could SAS my little bro's bike given the proper tools, material and time. Nutz, you sir are a DS. It's that kind of thinking that got everybody to raggin on you about your pile to start with.




















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[colman]

it couldn't hurt to offer him 250 or even less

[Seth]

good stuff.

[crain_christoph]

he wanted 400 cuz thats what he paid then he put tires and a new floor into it so 300 is good i think

[DRAGOONRANCH]

It's a good deal if you are happy w/ it, no matter what you paid or what some of the joos around here tell you. :D

[crain_christoph]

It's a good deal if you are happy w/ it, no matter what you paid or what some of the joos around here tell you. :D

Thanks :cheers:

[Eckert]

It's a good deal if you are happy w/ it, no matter what you paid or what some of the joos around here tell you. :D

sometimes being Joo pays off.

[jerryg79]

sometimes being Joo pays off.

especially this time of year those bastards get 8 days of presents instead of just one like me :(

[Eckert]

especially this time of year those bastards get 8 days of presents instead of just one like me :(

i dont get mixed up with the details.

[crain_christoph]

hey i found this is it any better??

http://houston.craigslist.org/car/484626128.html
he said it has Dana 44 and just needs a timing chain gasket

[mudtoy67]

Only in that it gives you a platform that has a better aftermarket behind it. Other than that, I would think no.

[85cj7]

i wouldn't buy, just based on personal preference , no real rationale behind it though

[crain_christoph]

well datsun is cheaper(i dont have to pay all up front either)and i have found a few guys online that have done a sas with yota parts so if yall dont think the jeep is a whole better then ill stick with the datsun

[Seth]

Just needs a timing chain gasket....so it runs? How bad is the leak now?

In other news, that is the last time I copy and paste a link from you. Use the button on the reply screen with a little earth and a chain (link?!) from now on. I promise, if I can do it, so can you.

[crain_christoph]

sorry about the link. he said it was leaking a little not much but he took the cover off to replace and has not done it

[colman]

hey i found this is it any better??

http://houston.craigslist.org/car/484626128.html
he said it has Dana 44 and just needs a timing chain gasket

don't get it it is a closed knuckle d44 in the front, also the t-case sucks. the rear axle may be usable but since it is not running i don't think i would even pay 1/3 of that

[crain_christoph]

okay thanks guys for all the advice. im getting the datsun

[colman]

he wanted 400 cuz thats what he paid then he put tires and a new floor into it so 300 is good i think

just cause he has a certain amount in it doesn't mean that it is worth that. you learn that real quick fixing/ modifying cars.

[crain_christoph]

well he is one of my good buddies and it runs and i can pay a little now and a little after the holidays so the price works for me. but i understand what you are saying

[colman]

good luck with it, when you are ready to pull out the sawzall and whatnot let me know, i love kustom modifications

[mudtoy67]

Hurry up! You've got four days to get that thing running! :gigem:

[crain_christoph]

Thanks. Definitley gonna do a little custom modification so ill give you a call.

[uglyota]

especially this time of year those bastards get 8 days of presents instead of just one like me :(
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