Rig Sleds (The Trailer Thread)

[eight]

Yes you can get 10K single wheel axles and use 14 ply tires. My dad put those tires on his newest utility trailer and 3 died within the first year, with little use or weight. That's also what the 10 bale dump trailer used and blew out often. Cheap co-op 7.50-16s hold up better.

[Shaggy]

thanks for the feedback... i was leaning toward singles but the guy at the trailer shop was trying to talk me into duals. I think 32' is where I will be going because of the vehicles I want to pull but i might end up with a 30'... I need to figure out how much trailer i can get weight wise with my truck still. it will be mostlikely very similar to scotts seeing as i have the quad cab version of his truck.

[uglyota]

I think 32' is where I will be going because of the vehicles I want to pull

you need a 32' trailer for a stock jeep and a bigwheel tricycle :confused2

[eight]

Duals is for heavy loads, I think the guy just wants to sell you a $7K trailer.

[Shaggy]

im not buying one from him anyways... was just doing a little research

[Shaggy]

you need a 32' trailer for a stock jeep and a bigwheel tricycle :confused2

something like that... elise said she would want to wheel more if we could take two riggs... she doesnt like it when i kill one in the first hour and choose to get trashed instead of fixing it... with two we will have atleast two hours of fun before i get drunk

[Sharpe]

something like that... elise said she would want to wheel more if we could take two riggs... she doesnt like it when i kill one in the first hour and choose to get trashed instead of fixing it... with two we will have atleast two hours of fun before i get drunk

:laughing::laughing:

[AggieTJ2007]

the only advantage to tandem duals is that they don't complain when you drive fast I did 75-80 with ed's trailer back from CO for a while once it got flat again

[redcagepatrol]

Is 75 to 80 supposed to be fast? We drove 80 to 85 out in west TX while heading out to AZ - and back... Of course, the speed limit is 80

[bcolman]

Is 75 to 80 supposed to be fast? We drove 80 to 85 out in west TX while heading out to AZ - and back... Of course, the speed limit is 80

how often do you have tire failure?

[redcagepatrol]

I had my first tire failure on that trip on a slow leaking tire that I suspect was low. It was my second set of tires on the trailer, been about five years.

[KrazyKarl02]

I had my first tire failure on that trip on a slow leaking tire that I suspect was low. It was my second set of tires on the trailer, been about five years.

What brand tires do you buy? I had good luck with Carlisle, but tried some of the china ones, they were horrible, they would blow with no load on them.

[JB]

My trailer does not like going over 75, unloaded or loaded. It starts to get the shakes.

[Graystroke]

what's the big rush? the rocks aren't leaving.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

No, but some of us like to get there quick so we can cram as much drinkin....er, wheeling in before we have to go back to work. :D

[uglyota]

what's the big rush?

I had a cop ask me the same thing Sunday.
You're not a cop are you?
Because you have to tell me if you are...

[redcagepatrol]

What brand tires do you buy? I had good luck with Carlisle, but tried some of the china ones, they were horrible, they would blow with no load on them.

I bought some Yokohama's from Discount with certs...

[AggieTJ2007]

certs on trailer tires? sounds like a way to lose alot of money for discount tire. I will have to give it a try sometime

[KrazyKarl02]

**** Carlisle tires, nothing, but goodyear from now on....

[jerryg79]

im guessing that is from last weekend since there is no mud on the klogger?

[Doug Krebs]

what are the weight ratings on those?

[colman]

and how old were they

[KrazyKarl02]

That was last weekend. They are "C" rated and about a year old. They are 205-75-R15's, rated at 1650lbs. This is what the trailer came with, so I never really questioned. In the future I will be purchasing 225-75's with a D rating. They are good to 2450.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Hankook F19 or TH06 have been the best trailer tires I have found. They hold up well on our cattle trailer and have done a good job on the red GN.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

http://www.hankooktireusa.com/Main/default.aspx

(who knew you could get your foot fetish rocks off on a tire website?!??!) :D

[JB]

http://collegestation.craigslist.org/ctd/1585147978.html

I saw this one on CS CL. I like it for the 102" width, the little toolbox, the jack, and the 7k axles. Price is only a couple hundred more than mine was too.

[Sharpe]

That is everything my trailer should have been... :angry:

[AggieTJ2007]

mine too but for 4 times the price of what I paid for mine my piece works great

[FJAggie07]

Thank you for bumping this thread. I need a trailer to start hauling Rancho Grande (the tacoma) around on behind the Power Wagon. The wheelbase on the Tacoma is 121 inches and it will probably be between 75-80 inches wide from outside of the tire to outside of the tire on the front axle. What kind of bumper pull should i be looking at to keep weight to a minimum, and be able to comfortably pull this thing around on?

[Jackasic]

that is 700 more than mine was with spring loaded ramps. check these guys out: http://www.candmtrailers.net/

[KrazyKarl02]

I think Trout is where Knoeller's Dad got their trailer. They are a fine Porter based business.

[JB]

Thank you for bumping this thread. I need a trailer to start hauling Rancho Grande (the tacoma) around on behind the Power Wagon. The wheelbase on the Tacoma is 121 inches and it will probably be between 75-80 inches wide from outside of the tire to outside of the tire on the front axle. What kind of bumper pull should i be looking at to keep weight to a minimum, and be able to comfortably pull this thing around on?

You could probably get away with an 18ft car hauler with 3500lb axles. BUT, i would suggest 5200lb or 6000lb axles. When I was looking a few years ago, the price seemed to jump when you went to the 7k, but the one posted above seems to be reasonably priced.

Brakes on one axle works fine for me pulling the heavy Bronco with a half ton, but some will insist on both axles. I have heard rumor that brakes on both has caused inconsistent tire wear, but that could be a myth.

Make sure whatever you buy has new trailer tires, and not retreads

Steel deck v. wood deck is a toss up. You could hear arguements for both, but a treated wood deck is going to be a little lighter.

At 80inches wide, you are not going to need to worry about drive over fenders. My trailer is 83" between the fenders and I sqeeze all 86" of Bronco through them.

I would look for a 20' trailer, treated wood deck, dovetail, 2 6lug axles with brakes on one, 2 5/16th bulldog, good beefy tiedowns, LEDS, and new tires with a spare.

[AggieTJ2007]

the biggest thing is that a treated wood deck is alot lighter than a steel deck

[Seth]

im curious what the weight diff is. the title on my work trailer says 211, which seems light to me.

[colman]

if i were to buy another trailer i would get one a little longer, mine is 18 and often i could use another foot or two. so 20 or 22 but probably not 24. then agian i haul alot of random stuff around

[Eckert]

if i were to buy another trailer i would get one a little longer, mine is 18 and often i could use another foot or two. so 20 or 22 but probably not 24. then agian i haul alot of random stuff around

The reason you lost 2ft is because of your winch/toolbox configuration. cant bring anything all the way up to the front. Or at least i don't because the winch always doubles as a tie down. a 20ft set up like you have would be perfect.

[colman]

mine is 18, the tool box is on the tongue so it doesn't take any deck space and the winch is removeable and any truck can pull up over it if it has to, still wish i would have gotten a 20 or 22

[eight]

Mine's 12', you have 15" more wheelbase, so the next size up is 14'.

[KrazyKarl02]

Mine is 16'. Of course my tool box is on the tongue. I can fit regulat cab long beds or extended cab shot beds. Anything else is too long. It is perfect for jeeps, reg. cab short beds, and any car.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

You could probably get away with an 18ft car hauler with 3500lb axles. BUT, i would suggest 5200lb or 6000lb axles. When I was looking a few years ago, the price seemed to jump when you went to the 7k, but the one posted above seems to be reasonably priced.

I like to lean towards the 'overkill' side so that you don't put as much stress on the equipment. Bigger axles should have larger bearings that will not wear as fast, but they may cost more to replace. You can go too overkill though, and that is what I am running into w/ my GN. It is great for texas trips, but it is a heavy mother in places like Co where you are pulling some good hills. I use it at the ranch though, so I need that extra strength. It gets called into Bus hauling duty now and again too, so you never know when you need that little bit extra. :D

Brakes on one axle works fine for me pulling the heavy Bronco with a half ton, but some will insist on both axles. I have heard rumor that brakes on both has caused inconsistent tire wear, but that could be a myth.

I have never heard of the 2 brake/tire wear, but that doesn't mean it's not true. Again, 'overkill'. With the stop and go traffic in Dallas/Houston, you want all the 'whoa nelly' you can get!

Make sure whatever you buy has new trailer tires, and not retreads.

Here is where I disagree somewhat (or just want to elaborate more I guess). If it doesn't have new tires, or has retreads, just make sure that you account for that in your purchase price. Good true trailer tires are hard to beat and pay for them selves pretty quick when you don't have blow outs on I-35 w/ traffic roaring past you and a ruined rim under the trailer. To me, this is very important especially when I haul other peoples vehicles, as I feel responsible for them while they are back there...

Steel deck v. wood deck is a toss up. You could hear arguments for both, but a treated wood deck is going to be a little lighter.

2x12 treated lumber is roughly 6.6 pounds per square foot. 1/8" plate (0.120") is 5.1 lbs. You don't save any weight until you jump to 3/16's, but I don't know how well 1/8th will hold up.

At 80inches wide, you are not going to need to worry about drive over fenders. My trailer is 83" between the fenders and I sqeeze all 86" of Bronco through them.

I would look for a 20' trailer, treated wood deck, dovetail, 2 6lug axles with brakes on one, 2 5/16th bulldog, good beefy tiedowns, LEDS, and new tires with a spare.

see above for thoughts. (JB, I don't want this to seem like I am calling you out, but you just had a lot of what I wanted to comment on.) :beer:

Weight breakdown of Wood vs. Metal on a 84" x 20' trailer (140 square foot).

2"x12" pressure treated= 924 lbs.
1/8" plate = 714 lbs. (-210 lbs)
3/16" plate = 1078 lbs. (+154 lbs.)
1/4" plate = 1428 lbs. (+504 lbs.)

Information gathered from these two sources.
http://brownlumberservice.com/PDF/lumberweight.pdf
http://www.chapelsteel.com/weight-steel-plate.html

[AggieTJ2007]

that weight for wood sounds like wet pressure treated i bet it gets alot lighter as it dries out. also steel plate is slick as hell when it gets wet and things like to slide around alot on the metal decks

once the deck is dry it will be closer to 600 lbs

[colman]

and if you have to work on something and it is sunny out steel sucks, that and the coeficient of friction is higher on wood is why i got wood

[tigweld]

I would rather have a steel deck any day off the week for any job. treated southern yellow pine(what most smaller trailer shops use) is not what real trailer decks are made of it crackes and splinters with any real concentrated weight. with a steel deck d rings can be put down almost anywhere so the load can be properly secured using straps no way i am relying on the decks friction.

[colman]

who said anything about not using straps. thats just plain stupid

[DRAGOONRANCH]

I think what he is trying to say is that if you are having to factor in the 'friction coefficient' of the deck then you are not strapping the load correctly to begin with.

[colman]

it was also refering to when you are working on something when it is on the trailor and not totally strapped down

[DRAGOONRANCH]

So you work on your trailer when it's sitting at a 45% angle??? :flipoff2:

[bburris]

Someone also mentioned using a winch as a tie-down earlier in this thread as well...

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Someone also mentioned using a winch as a tie-down earlier in this thread as well...

Across town, or a real short trip I can see. Not on a cross country trip though. Maybe to suck the suspension down on a flexy rig. To each his own though.

[sasquatch]

http://collegestation.craigslist.org/grd/1597771559.html

[stx4wheeler]

I bought my trailer without fenders and i decided that i should make it legal so it was time for some fenders. I wanted something different than a normal trailer fender and i wanted something that could be driven over and not have to worry about destroying the fender in the process. I went with the heaviest diamondplate fender I could find then used 1 3/4 .120 wall hrew to mimmick the shape of the fenders. Thanks to Karl for the extra help with the bending. They did not come out perfect but I am very pleased with how thet turned out.

While I had the trailer in the shop I removed the bent jack and replaced it with a new 7k. To make sure that the jack would not get bent this time I raised it up about another two inches from stock.

Next I needed somewhere to mount my spares. It sucks constantly throwing trailer spares into truck beds and making sure you dont forget them. I used some all thread( Karls favorite steel second only to angle iron) and some 3 inch sch. 40 for the current time(will get 5 inch when I can find some so that the trailer rim is perfectly centered on the pipe). Then to make sure everything stays tight I welded some nuts onto a four way to keep everything where it belongs.

[stx4wheeler]

more pics

[eight]

I don't think those wheels will fit over 5" pipe, which is 5.5" OD.

[KrazyKarl02]

I don't think those wheels will fit over 5" pipe, which is 5.5" OD.

Not the pipe I make :flipoff2:

[davido]

That looks good! I need to cut off the old one on the white trailer and get a replacement one on there. Where did you pickup the fenders?

[jerryg79]

I'm looking at that picture, like "wait i thought frick lived in the country, look at all those yuppie bmw's, i bet his neighbors hate him with that turd in front of his......oh jesus that's my house, he just dropped it off this morning":)

[JB]

Gooseneck on 21 sells thems.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

I like the 4-way/tire hold down.

[AggieTJ2007]

just drill a hole in the all thread and put a pad lock through the hole and they can't steal the tires either

[DRAGOONRANCH]

just drill a hole in the all thread and put a pad lock through the hole and they can't steal the tires as easily...

a lock will only keep an honest man honest. :beer:

[AggieTJ2007]

true but if they are going to take it the atleast need to work a little for it

[85cj7]

good work Kevin, looks good

[DRAGOONRANCH]

true but if they are going to take it the atleast need to work a little for it

ed zachary!

[Jackasic]

http://tamor.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=17093&stc=1&d=1267208500

you need to put a shackle in there so the spring has somewhere to move to. Had that set up on a trailer and it rode rough because the spring couldn't expand under compression.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Yep, leave the pivot in the middle and put the shackles at the outer ends.

EDIT: This puts a good bit of stress on that center pivot bolt, so make sure you check out that hardware good while you are doing anything to it.

[AggieTJ2007]

they may be slider springs if so you don't need shackles

[bcolman]

that is all assuming it is not a slipper spring set up, because if it is then it is set up right

[Jackasic]

You are starting with the wrong assumption, the correct one is: this is frick so it has to be wrong :flipoff:

I am pretty sure it is bolted on both ends of those springs.

[eight]

Those are slipper springs, take a look under any heavier trailer. Ed, I would imagine your gooseneck has those.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

I think you are right Kopecki.

[stx4wheeler]

I would say they are the proper springs as it is a trailmaster trailer not some homemade job. Also it tows like a champ.

[FJAggie07]

Loaded up for K-Rocks run. a perfect fit!

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/0cdfa1db.jpg

[JB]

Are those pitbulls armoralled?:rainbow:
:flipoff2:

[FJAggie07]

Why yes, yes they are. :flipoff2:

[agjohn02]

always a good idea to lube up your tires before going offroad

[FJAggie07]

always a good idea to lube up your tires before going offroad

That's what I always say...

[KrazyKarl02]

Crazy idea, Do you think like a 25' RV with a 460 or 454 would pull a rig and trailer, or do you think you would just overheat everything and life would suck?

[redcagepatrol]

Crazy idea, Do you think like a 25' RV with a 460 or 454 would pull a rig and trailer, or do you think you would just overheat everything and life would suck?

everything in life would suck

[jerryg79]

Crazy idea, Do you think like a 25' RV with a 460 or 454 would pull a rig and trailer, or do you think you would just overheat everything and life would suck?

get one with a window over the filler neck, so you can just lean out and throw money directly into the gas tank.:gigem:

[bburris]

My grandparents old motorhome had a 460 in it (Ford van frontend) and it didn't have too many problems. They pulled their Oldsmobile everywhere thew went, I know it isn't a fullsize beater on a trailer but they travelled everywhere in it in all kinds of weather.

[Sharpe]

From what I've read as long as you dont mind ~4-6 MPG and the RV is rated for the weight it will work.

[uglyota]

I bet you can buy a lot of gas for the price difference

[Reckless]

just drop a cummins in it and itll be about the same. but IMO, i would just find a gooseneck and put a slide in camper on it or and old horse trailer with the living quarters in the front. Just cut off the back area and volia!

[Sharpe]

Just cut off the back area and volia!

Great plan, most of those arent a sort of "unibody" construction or anything. I dont even want to imagine how much trouble it would be to "just drop a cummins" into an old ****ty RV.

[uglyota]

was that a zing or a smack? Pretty sure it was a smack... :eek:

[robertf03]

sounds like the best of both worlds. shatty 80's camper with a budget engine swap!

[Reckless]

when i said the cut the rear off, i ment the horse trailer ass hat

[eight]

A newer class C will most likely have a V-10, E-450 (1.5 ton) chassis, and should pull well. Expect to be a little slow in the hills. I once talked to a guy pulling a jeep with one at a truckstop. He said it got 8-10mpg.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

I like the camper on a GN idea, but have been seeing/hearing alot of the guys who have these going to a MH/bumperpull setup instead. I think the GN/camper is an 'economical' way to get into the old timers camping and get the SO onboard enough to justify the MH purchase. :D

I don't know what level of comfort you are expecting out of this, but the older campers can be had pretty cheap most of the time, and with a little aggie engineering they can work out pretty good on the GN.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

when i said the cut the rear off, i ment the horse trailer ass hat

yeah, he understood what you were saying, and the 'unibody' comment he made was right. Most of your livestock trailers get a good bit of their strength from the sides and roof all being tied together. It helps to keep the frame lighter and lower.

[davido]

I asked a guy about towing behind a diesel bus. He said it wouldn't even know it was back there. Just don't expect to get anywhere in a hurry. Most people I've talked to with RVs say they drive slower but get there at the same time because they eliminate RR breaks. Just switch drivers while you're driving, hit the head, grab a drink, switch back.

[Sharpe]

I asked a guy about towing behind a diesel bus. He said it wouldn't even know it was back there. Just don't expect to get anywhere in a hurry. Most people I've talked to with RVs say they drive slower but get there at the same time because they eliminate RR breaks. Just switch drivers while you're driving, hit the head, grab a drink, switch back.

Bus build #2 comin right up! Figure out how to kludge the Scamper onto the back for some luxury and still have enough room for other people and **** in the bus! :gigem:

[KrazyKarl02]

I was talking to a guy today about when you had to have a CDL/Class A/Class C license. I had always thought that if your trailer + load was over 10,000 lbs that was when you needed a class A or CDL. He said it was truck + trailer + load over 10,000 lbs.

For example my Duramax tips the scales at around 8500 lbs, my trailer is about 1700, that means, according to this guy, when I attach a trailer to my truck I need a higher license than C. Does not seem right. Anyone care to educate me.

[jerryg79]

I was talking to a guy today about when you had to have a CDL/Class A/Class C license. I had always thought that if your trailer + load was over 10,000 lbs that was when you needed a class A or CDL. He said it was truck + trailer + load over 10,000 lbs.

For example my Duramax tips the scales at around 8500 lbs, my trailer is about 1700, that means, according to this guy, when I attach a trailer to my truck I need a higher license than C. Does not seem right. Anyone care to educate me.

just call doug directly, you're going to get a bunch of bs that no one knows but im fairly confident doug super-internet researched this and talked to the dps directly.

Im pretty sure that guy is quite wrong.

[CheapJeep]

That guy is wrong indeed...


If you are towing with a Toterhome, RV, or whatever, as long as it is privately owned you only need a class C in Texas. Other states like Maryland and Nevada have different regulations.

[eight]

Not sure where you're getting the 10,000 lbs from. It goes by gross capacity, and I think 26,500lbs is the limit. This means your truck + triple axle 8 lug or tandem duals = no class C unless you had the trailer under-rated. Of note here is that the actual load does not matter. There are exemptions for farmers, they get a much higher load. There are also exemptions for RVs, huge 5th wheel behind a F450 is OK. Huge bus style RV doesn't require a special license. I would think this exemption would also apply to your small motorhome pulling klogger. You are still not allowed to be overloaded, which is based on the rated capacity of truck and trailer, or what you license them for, whichever is lower.

[StevenAg03]

limit is 26,000lbs. so if your truck/trailer capacity is 26,001+ lbs, you technically need a CDL.

[Eckert]

I was talking to a guy today about when you had to have a CDL/Class A/Class C license. I had always thought that if your trailer + load was over 10,000 lbs that was when you needed a class A or CDL. He said it was truck + trailer + load over 10,000 lbs.

For example my Duramax tips the scales at around 8500 lbs, my trailer is about 1700, that means, according to this guy, when I attach a trailer to my truck I need a higher license than C. Does not seem right. Anyone care to educate me.

you shouldn't talk to that guy again. As long as the gross weight is under 26,001 LBS you don't need a CDL.

I don't know how the gay RV crap works. but if i recall, you don't need a CDL to operate a RV, which is asinine. Which is why every professional driver in the world hates them.

[davido]

Ah. So evidently it is NOT legal to haul a bus on a dual-tandem gooseneck with a 3/4 ton pickup. Who would have known? :D

[DRAGOONRANCH]

legal-schmeagle...

[agjohn02]

Ah. So evidently it is NOT legal to haul a bus on a dual-tandem gooseneck with a 3/4 ton pickup. Who would have known? :D

I could have told you that when you almost rolled the whole shebang crossing a diagonal RR track. Although part of that was driving way too fast. I've never seen a GN on two... er, four wheels before.

[Doug Krebs]

No it's assine to think an RV needs a CDL. Now a class A is a probably a good idea and makes sense. Hell I think at a certain age you should have to have a driving test every year. The 90 year olds hooked up to oxygen driving an 40ft pusher scares me.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Yep, the whole reason behind the CDL is in the first letter, "Commercial". Those guys will drive all day and all night hopped up on the go fast just to log miles if you let them. The CDL is just another way to regulate safety standards like OSHA does.

[uglyota]

hey you mind your business! Eckert and the rest of the "professional truckers" know exactly what they're doing!

[DRAGOONRANCH]

That's Tyler's new callsign on the CB, "Super Trucker"!

So say we all..

[DRAGOONRANCH]

http://www.enchantedfairygarden.com/pics/supertrucker.JPG

[AggieTJ2007]

picked up my mobile methlab from the Hippie yesterday. I had to stretch the trailer 3 feet but the jeep will fit on behind the meth lab.

It is not great but it was free:gigem:

[DRAGOONRANCH]

You are going to need taillight guards. ;)

looks peemp. We will be the talk of Vegas when we roll into town. :D

[AggieTJ2007]

for the truck or the trailer? it is close to the truck but I can actually jack knife the trailer without hitting the camper. I added the 3 feet to the front of the trailer

the trailer yes if I don't stop driving over them

[DRAGOONRANCH]

I was talkin about the truck, but if you say that you can jackknife it I will believe you.

[AggieTJ2007]

I was talkin about the truck, but if you say that you can jackknife it I will believe you.

it is decieving but I stretched the tongue of the trailer 3 feet and then add that small deck on the front for the trailer to sit on. The small deck actually sits on the tongue where the old deck sat before.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

ah, ok. That makes sense.

[uglyota]

looks a lot better now that it's in your driveway and not my backyard :flipoff2:
Take pics of the fridge, stove and 12v coffeepot so Doug can drool

[TxCruzr]

Anyone have any contacts in the car hauler biz or know of any good places with reasonable prices? The closer to Eagles Ass or San Antonio the better. Just looking for a 18' wood decked car hauler.
Called a few places today and so far they're all $2k+

[DRAGOONRANCH]

If you haven't already, call Jace at BigTex.

[TxCruzr]

Thx, sent him a message. I hate the websites that don't give a email address and make you fill out a contact form with all your info. Bastards always call in the middle of the day when I'm passed out :rolleyes:

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Let me know if you don't hear from him. I PM'ed him on tx4x4 about the flatbed I just had put on the 'Big Dooley'. He got me a hellufa deal.

On another note (and this may very well shoot me in the foot so close to my vacation :laughing: ), get a hold of Colman on here. He has a nice BigTex like you are looking for that he has up for sale.

Link: http://www.tamor.org/forums/showthread.php?t=11094

[bcolman]

i dont think my brother is selling the trailer any more, and ed we need some pics of the new flat bed

[TxCruzr]

Just got a qoute back from him and was a little suprised. It was the lowest I've been quoted so far even from ma n pa shops. I did forget to add on a few goodies though but I think it'll still be the best deal.

[bcolman]

if you get ahold of the guy through tx4x4 then you will likely get a better deal

[Shaggy]

ask him if he will give you a better price if you get two... i am looking for something similar

[TxCruzr]

Only if you go pick them up and I'll get it from you in SA :flipoff2:
Just realized where he is out of, that's a good 9+ hours :eek:

[AggieTJ2007]

i dont think my brother is selling the trailer any more, and ed we need some pics of the new flat bed

Since Ed is lazy and you can't figure out where to find them

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/Dually%20Chevy/get-attachment.jpg

[colman]

yea i'm keeping my trailer. made that decision a while ago. i got mine from bigtex on tx4x4. every lot i called had it listed for 3300 ish i walked out the door at 2350 but i did have to pick it up in mt pleasant. well worth the drive for the deal

[Seth]

Since Ed is lazy and you can't figure out where to find them

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/Dually%20Chevy/get-attachment.jpg

I like!

[bcolman]

Since Ed is lazy and you can't figure out where to find them

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/Dually%20Chevy/get-attachment.jpg

looks good ed

and creighton i am lazy:flipoff2:

[Shaggy]

well I am driving to florida and back in july ~3K miles... I am sure I could make a side trip to pick them up... PM me with the specs on them and you think they could load on on top of the other?

[AggieTJ2007]

Jeep on the trailer w/ camper. It pulls great even better than it did before because of the 3 extra feet of length.

And for Doug the refrigerator and stove

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f124/CreightonRea/Jeep/RigSled001.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f124/CreightonRea/Jeep/RigSled004.jpg

[uglyota]

good stuff! You oughta rhino-line under the wings

did you really stuff that tire far enough to dent that quarter panel?

[DRAGOONRANCH]

I think he did that in Colorado last year or maybe at Trees. Can't remember which.

[bcolman]

he stuffed it last year in the king of trees race, i think my back still hurts from that short ride

[TdmayfieldIV]

he stuffed it last year, i think my back still hurts from that short ride

:laughing::flipoff2: New sig

[AggieTJ2007]

yeah the tires will stuff that far. I think the rear has 7 inches up travel and 8 inches of down travel

[JB]

Pics taken before we had a chance to weld the 2nd inner fender on, but they are all cleaned up and ready for either bedliner or paint. Clarke did a great job on these and spent way more time then I am sure he anticipated, but the final product will look great.

We bascially just took out 4" of original fender and used 5 pieces of 2x4 3/16" to build it back. You can see the hefty chunk of leftover angle from our first idea used now as a center support

The Bronco is for sure wider now with the Solid outers :( Probably 1-2" It will not climb both at the same time, but it will not squeeze through, so, just one side climbs.

[JB]

bedlined. look much better than my ****ty paint job

[DRAGOONRANCH]

bedlined. look much better than my ****ty paint job

Looks good, should hold up lots better. You do it yourself or have it done?

[JB]

texas truck riggins did it.

[davido]

That's sweet looking! Clark did some good work.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

texas truck riggins did it.

10-4

[JB]

http://www.macscustomtiedowns.com/

This link might be well known, but figured I would post it here too. I know I could definitely stand to replace the ratty straps I have been using for years.

[bcolman]

http://www.macscustomtiedowns.com/

This link might be well known, but figured I would post it here too. I know I could definitely stand to replace the ratty straps I have been using for years.

you been in big dumb loads on pirate recently?

[Sharpe]

This isn't that heavy by Buster standards, but its still the most **** I've ever hauled with my truck/trailer combo. I got a solid 6 mpg and could not maintain 70 mph until I got to the flat ground south of Halletsville. Made it though!

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Haha, that's a pretty good load for an old wore out gasser!

[Jackasic]

http://www.macscustomtiedowns.com/

This link might be well known, but figured I would post it here too. I know I could definitely stand to replace the ratty straps I have been using for years.

never head of them, thanks for posting. Order a set for both trailers.

[FJAggie07]

So this past weekend for the trip to Canyons I borrowed my Mom's new trailer (that's right my Mother has a trailer for hauling her car) that I will affectionately dub the "Mobile Motel 6". Just thought I would share it in here, this thing is stupid nice, and with having access to either it or my Dad's Gooseneck I have officially lost any need to buy my own trailer which is pretty nice.

34' Continental Cargo Fully Enclosed Auto Master?
Shower and Toilet in the Front
Work Bench with Handsink
15,000 BTU AC and Heater
Checkered Floor
Checkered Awning
Fluorescent Lights throughout the thing
Bright lights on the outside
25 Gallon Fresh Water Tank, 25 G Black Tank and 25 G Grey Water Tank
5 Gallon Hot water heater
They Also bought a 6500W Honda Inverter Generator for it, which on the second night ran all night without a hitch.

They bought this thing to be able to take my Mom's car to shows and road trips and camp in it in a state park and drive during the days. Amanda and I tested it out and verified that it will definitely work for what they want it to do.

Dumbass move of the weekend: The 2nd day I was towing it I drug it against my mailbox in front of my house and ruined the passenger rear aluminum panel. On Tuesday we dropped it off with the Manufacturer and today they fixed it and a mere $280 out of my pocket to get it back to perfect for my Padres.

Pictars:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/Canyons%20Offroad%202-25-11/682a0ff0.jpg

fits the buggy nice

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/Canyons%20Offroad%202-25-11/218fa235.jpg

All lit up
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/Canyons%20Offroad%202-25-11/c6f5dc86.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/Canyons%20Offroad%202-25-11/ed7a0ce2.jpg

Sleeping in comfort :)

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/Canyons%20Offroad%202-25-11/12009892.jpg

[Fredo]

Wait, they bought a trailer to tow a Maserati to "car shows"?

[Fredo]

Chris, apparently you are ignoring my question, but really, what car shows they are taking a Maserati to?

[KrazyKarl02]

Maybe he just updated his thread by going direct to build up threads and skipped tech and shop talk. If so, for all the new people in the upper right if you click the yellow number next to posts, it will bring the up the posts that have had replies since you last viewed TAMOR.

[FJAggie07]

Wait, they bought a trailer to tow a Maserati to "car shows"?


Chris, apparently you are ignoring my question, but really, what car shows they are taking a Maserati to?

I am ignoring your question? Wow I didnt see your response until just now. Sometimes when you check into the forum and don't have a chance to read all of the threads it marks them as read. I have missed a lot of posts this way, but I am not ignoring you.

To be honest I don't know what shows she plans on taking her car to, not my thing. I know the last time she took it down to Austin for some drive time in the hill country she didn't like putting the miles on it. Something about the chance of it getting messed up on 35. This is her new hobby and baby and who am I (just like anyone else in this club) to judge how somebody wants to spend their money on the things they like or want.

Now that I reread your comment I sure hope i am not reading into some maliciousness on your part. You might want to hold your tongue before saying something about somebodies family members. I hope I am not misreading your post.

[Fredo]

I don't hide maliciousness. If I was being malicious, you'd know it. I just don't see the point in having a car like that and worrying about miles or damage. Hell, it's probably still under warranty. Don't worry, I also think it's gay when guys have badass hotrods with fuel injected motors, overdrive transmissions, badass riding suspensions, ice cold a/c, and they throw them in a trailer to go to a car show less than 30 miles away.

I guess I'm just silly thinking that they are cars, and they are meant to be driven and enjoyed. **** the miles. Damage? That's what insurance is for.

[FJAggie07]

I don't hide maliciousness. If I was being malicious, you'd know it. I just don't see the point in having a car like that and worrying about miles or damage. Hell, it's probably still under warranty. Don't worry, I also think it's gay when guys have badass hotrods with fuel injected motors, overdrive transmissions, badass riding suspensions, ice cold a/c, and they throw them in a trailer to go to a car show less than 30 miles away.

I guess I'm just silly thinking that they are cars, and they are meant to be driven and enjoyed. **** the miles. Damage? That's what insurance is for.

Ok gotcha now I see where you are going. No she drives it around town on a weekly basis, hell she has been driving it to and from work this week. She drives it out to the cars and coffee show I know also. I think her and pop's thinking is trailering it to and from the hill country to drive some windy roads and trailering it to Colorado to drive some passes while the wife and I are out running the trails in our vehicles.

At least this is the impression I am getting. In may we are taking a little family weekend trip to San Antonio to drive the "Three sisters" (?) roads. She will be trailering the maser with my cousins motorcycles in the front and Amanda and I are taking the mustang. Supposed to be fun, I have never done any on road twisty turn touring road stuff but they all have and convinced us to join them. I think this type of trip was the reason for the trailer, more so then the car shows she said she wanted to use it for.

[Sparling]

Ok gotcha now I see where you are going. No she drives it around town on a weekly basis, hell she has been driving it to and from work this week. She drives it out to the cars and coffee show I know also. I think her and pop's thinking is trailering it to and from the hill country to drive some windy roads and trailering it to Colorado to drive some passes while the wife and I are out running the trails in our vehicles.

At least this is the impression I am getting. In may we are taking a little family weekend trip to San Antonio to drive the "Three sisters" (?) roads. She will be trailering the maser with my cousins motorcycles in the front and Amanda and I are taking the mustang. Supposed to be fun, I have never done any on road twisty turn touring road stuff but they all have and convinced us to join them. I think this type of trip was the reason for the trailer, more so then the car shows she said she wanted to use it for.

Where are the three sisters roads? Might have to make a trip in my mustang.

[davido]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=three+sisters+texas

[Shaggy]

I have been looking around for a place to store my trailer. I can't keep it in my neighborhood much longer without a fine. So far the cheapest storage I have found in San Antonio close to the house is $40 a month. This seems high to me. I am hoping to spend $25 or so a month. Anyone know of a place around here of have family with land that wouldn't mine it out there?

[FJAggie07]

I have been looking around for a place to store my trailer. I can't keep it in my neighborhood much longer without a fine. So far the cheapest storage I have found in San Antonio close to the house is $40 a month. This seems high to me. I am hoping to spend $25 or so a month. Anyone know of a place around here of have family with land that wouldn't mine it out there?

$40 seems about right honestly. For example this is the cheapest place I found for uncovered trailer storage between my house and my work up here and it is $40 http://www.parkerrvstorage.com/. Might be one of those things you just kind of bite the bullet and pony up the extra $10 a month. I know that is $120 a year but having access to the trailer whenever you want, close and convenient to your house, without having to drive a ways to get it might be worth it?

On a side note I pay $80 for a covered storage spot with electricity for the fire truck and smoker trailer. It ain't cheap but the only place I have to store it is my parents place (uncovered) and it is a 1.5 hr drive from me and with how often I use the firetruck it is worth it to not have to spend all night just getting the thing to take it to CS. Just my .02.

[Shaggy]

I agree that $40 isn't bad seeing what some other places charge. It is only 7 miles too but I would drive 30 to get it down to $25

[Seth]

makes me glad to have some space.

[mudtoy67]

Put a new floor on my trailer last weekend. The floor looked ok, but most of the boards had cracks. Water had been collecting in the cracks and caused the boards to rot from the inside out.

CDR's pawpaw wanted to help with the project, so I stripped the old floor and we brought it out to San Antonio.
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii297/mudtoy67/XJ/DSCN4553.jpg

Ended up going with regular #2 pine for the new floor. I looked into other species popular with trailer builders such as white oak and apitong. I couldn't find any white oak that wasn't big money furniture grade. Apitong is used pretty often on big rig trailers and supposed to be really durable. It was still pretty pricey at $4+ a board foot. At that cost I'd have to replace the #2 pine almost 8 times before I met the price of apitong. With proper water treatment the wood should keep plenty of years.

I wanted to add anchor points in similar positions as most steel deck car haulers. What I came up with is to span two crossmembers front and rear with channel steel. I used C6x10.5. The 6" width worked well with the floor layout. I was able to space things out so all full length boards were 2x8 and where the anchor channels were would use 2x6. The 10.5# weight gives the channel a little over a 1/4" web for strength. The legs of the channel are just over 2" tall, so I had to notch them to 1.5" where they rest on the crossmembers to make the top even with the deck. I'll pick up some recessed d-rings typically used on car haulers and weld them to the channels this week. http://www.macscustomtiedowns.com/product/48/DRings

Front anchor point. Added a piece of angle to support the end of the board.
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii297/mudtoy67/XJ/DSCN4556.jpg

Rear anchor point on the dovetail.
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii297/mudtoy67/XJ/DSCN4557.jpg

Christy's pawpaw putting the final screws in the dovetail. I used floor screws the same as I had pulled out of the old floor. The screws have a T30 torx socket head, and the thread is self tapping.
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii297/mudtoy67/XJ/DSCN4558.jpg

And the finished deck. Still need to treat it and weld on the new d-rings.
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii297/mudtoy67/XJ/DSCN4559.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii297/mudtoy67/XJ/DSCN4561.jpg

[DRAGOONRANCH]

That looks real good BDR. Its nice getting family involved.

[Shaggy]

I dig it. Mine is going to need a new deck in the next year or two. How much did it set you back?

[mudtoy67]

Probably about $250-$300 when it's all done.

[JB]

Looks good

[mudtoy67]

Finally got around to finishing up the new deck with installing the d-rings and doing the water sealer. If I ever do something like this again I'm gonna make sure I weld the d-rings on first...it was a pain protecting the wood from burning during cutting/welding. :D

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii297/mudtoy67/Mobile%20Uploads/Photo533.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii297/mudtoy67/Mobile%20Uploads/Photo534.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii297/mudtoy67/Mobile%20Uploads/Photo535.jpg

[Shaggy]

Looks awesome. I need to redo my deck.

[Shaggy]

Bias versus radial on a trailer tire? I am getting new tires for mine and need to decide what to get. My stepdad swears that he has better luck with bias tires on his trailers but I wanted yall's thoughts

[eight]

Bias, they don't blow up. Put size 7.00-15 on it.

[davido]

Trailer looks nice!

[JB]

For sale on the side of 21. 6 lug axles. Looks like a wood deck with metal over it? no dovetail, probably 18'. I would say it was a $2500 trailer new. Don't know what they are asking.

edit: oops, the number didn't show up well. Can get it next time I drive by.

[Seth]

That's exactly what I would like, so long as it has stake pockets and are 5200 pound axles. metal deck meh, and no dovetail, but nice.

[JB]

Any idea what I could get for my trailer?

20' steel deck, 5200lbrs, drive over fenders? I thnk I paid around $3300, with the LEDs, 2 5/16ths, old removable fendrs and paint matched.

Ask $2500, let it go for $2000? My neighbor wants to buy it.

[Hellbent]

Any idea what I could get for my trailer?

20' steel deck, 5200lbrs, drive over fenders? I thnk I paid around $3300, with the LEDs, 2 5/16ths, old removable fendrs and paint matched.

Ask $2500, let it go for $2000? My neighbor wants to buy it.

At that price it will go very quick, Pirate may be your best bet since it is set up perfect for a rig hauler.

[sam_hodnett]

getting a big boy goose neck?

[BroncoJo]

Car-hauler type gooseneck? That's what I'd go with if I bought a new trailer

[sasquatch]

tiger trailers in mt pleasant makes a 26ft gn with 7k axles and drive over fenders like mine. one of the profs in my old dept at a&m bought one while i was there. paid 4k.

[Hellbent]

If i were you I would look at PJ trailers, they make a "C8" Carhauler goosneck that come in lengths from 20-34', has dual 7,000 pound axles, 8" channed and is 2,000 pounds lighter than the one I bought. saw one in person and they are perfect for one fullsize and a couple 4 wheelers, or side by sides.

http://www.pjtrailers.com/detail.cfm?ID=C8

Also many custom options.

[JB]

Cool

I have not decided on what I want to do yet, if anything.

What about deck over vs low boy?

What about sides?

Ideally I want to be able to use this trailer for more than just hauling rigs, hopefully to move some equipment one day. Nothing stupid heavy. I only want 2, 7k or 8k axles.

Deckover just puts the rigs up so high and the only real advantage I can think of is if you are loading items on the trailer with a forklift, obviously a deckover is better since you do not have to worry about the fenders. Unless the design of a deckover is inherintly stronger? O, and beer pong, deckover definetely better for beer pong

A lowboy, extrawide like Cooks, in the 30-34' range seems about right.

Would want slide in ramps versus the fold up too.

What about a GN hitch that won't drop my exhaust to the ground or cost a small fortune?

[JB]

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af164/trouttire/GOOSENECK/IMG_1077.jpg
this one is only 24' but I think you can get them longer

[AggieTJ2007]

I had a longer post but you should look at a B&W turnover ball

http://www.sdtrucksprings.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=8098

looks like you may be to drop the exhaust but I bet you could clearance it with a hammer or get an exhaust shop to add a bend to clear the hitch.

[sam_hodnett]

PJ makes good trailers, My dad has a tandem dual 32' deck over with a 4' dovetail, and it is a beast. He says it is the best trailer he has ever owned. Plus they are made right outside of Paris :gigem:

[Hellbent]

I should have listened when I bought mine. Mine is 25+5 foot dovetail, perfect for two tigs. The ideal length like Sam mentioned is 32' for 2 7000 axles, anything longer and you need tripples, and all i have heard about people with triples is terrible things related to tire problems

You had mentioned the idea of bobcat down the road, still a perfect size for that and plenty of room for attachments up front.



BTW, aftermarket exhaust does not require a drop bracket like the factory setup when using a B&W. :D

[sam_hodnett]

I still think you should have went duals on your trailer Evan

[Hellbent]

I still think you should have went duals on your trailer Evan

I have a matching PJ with duals 24,000 pound rated, its my new sprayer trailer with a 2,000 gallon tank on it. This weekend it had roughly 8,000 pounds on the trailer, people haul bobcats all day with singles and bobcats weigh 10,000.

I was going for a more lightweight heavy duty trailer that i could still pull at 80mph.

[TdmayfieldIV]

We put as much weight as that trailer will ever probably see. I felt the tires when we stopped they weren't hot and they aren't wearing funny. Tandems cost twice as much when it comes time to buy tires.

[Hellbent]

We put as much weight as that trailer will ever probably see. I felt the tires when we stopped they weren't hot and they aren't wearing funny. Tandems cost twice as much when it comes time to buy tires.

and almost twice as much to buy the trailer... I know this for a fact

[JB]

http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/grd/2948614802.html

I like this, but think he is way high on his price.

[eight]

If the trailer you have now works fine just keep it. Gooseneck takes up a bunch of space in the bed and doesn't clear corners as well.

Deckover gooseneck is usually stronger than lowboy. Most deckovers are made for tandem duals even when they come with singles. You lose quite a bit of carrying capacity due to the unnecessary extra weight. I have done a lot of hauling a bobcat plus a couple thousand pounds of pipe and a pallet of concrete on a lowboy, never hurt it.

I have never had any problems related to triples. Triples make a smoother ride than tandem duals. I have heard that other people will take your triple axle trailer, load it down, spin it and bend the axles. I never spin any trailer loaded.

[eight]

I assume when you are hauling equipment you will be running your own business. When you have your own business you get to save at least 30% of the cost of the trailer due to tax write off. Wait until then to buy one.

[nickas]

http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/grd/2948614802.html

I like this, but think he is way high on his price.

Thats not a 37', looks more like a 27' (he must be counting the neck). Get you one like this, but get 3 axles. With a trailer that long, and if you plan on hauling equipment, you will be supprised how often you will end up overloading 2 axles. The biggest advantage to a deckover, is the wider deck.

[JB]

I am sure the answer is in this thread somewhere, but is Schubrings trailer 32' (27' +5')?

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Something tells me 30', just can't remember from the Colorado trip.

[eight]

It is 30' straight, no +.

[AggieTJ2007]

I would like to buy a trailer like Scott's. Yes I believe it is 32' not sure about the dovetail since it is a lowboy. it may have a small dovetail but nothing as steep as a deckover.

[redcagepatrol]

It's 30' straight with no dovetail. I love the length and width.

[redcagepatrol]

Oh, I have the 102" wide deck, except of course at the fenders

[JB]

Interesting. 40' but only 2 7k axles? Wonder what the trailer weighs alone? Probably for hauling pipe? Doesnt seem too useful unless you are hauling 3 lightweight rigs.
http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/tls/3196309748.html

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Boy howdy, that thing would drag like Rupaul!!!

[Seth]

Lots of tongue weight too.

[JB]

Any idea what I could get for my trailer?

20' steel deck, 5200lbrs, drive over fenders? I thnk I paid around $3300, with the LEDs, 2 5/16ths, old removable fendrs and paint matched.

Ask $2500, let it go for $2000? My neighbor wants to buy it.

Sold for $2800 :D

[JB]

http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/3384382626.html

Decent deal? He agreed to 3200 if it is still there Sunday. Texas pride brand

[AggieTJ2007]

seems like a good deal to me, it should fit the ranger and the bronco real nice

[Shaggy]

I dig it.

[JB]

Put a new floor on my trailer last weekend. The floor looked ok, but most of the boards had cracks. Water had been collecting in the cracks and caused the boards to rot from the inside out.

CDR's pawpaw wanted to help with the project, so I stripped the old floor and we brought it out to San Antonio.
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii297/mudtoy67/XJ/DSCN4553.jpg

Ended up going with regular #2 pine for the new floor. I looked into other species popular with trailer builders such as white oak and apitong. I couldn't find any white oak that wasn't big money furniture grade. Apitong is used pretty often on big rig trailers and supposed to be really durable. It was still pretty pricey at $4+ a board foot. At that cost I'd have to replace the #2 pine almost 8 times before I met the price of apitong. With proper water treatment the wood should keep plenty of years.

I wanted to add anchor points in similar positions as most steel deck car haulers. What I came up with is to span two crossmembers front and rear with channel steel. I used C6x10.5. The 6" width worked well with the floor layout. I was able to space things out so all full length boards were 2x8 and where the anchor channels were would use 2x6. The 10.5# weight gives the channel a little over a 1/4" web for strength. The legs of the channel are just over 2" tall, so I had to notch them to 1.5" where they rest on the crossmembers to make the top even with the deck. I'll pick up some recessed d-rings typically used on car haulers and weld them to the channels this week. http://www.macscustomtiedowns.com/product/48/DRings

Front anchor point. Added a piece of angle to support the end of the board.
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii297/mudtoy67/XJ/DSCN4556.jpg

Rear anchor point on the dovetail.
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii297/mudtoy67/XJ/DSCN4557.jpg

Christy's pawpaw putting the final screws in the dovetail. I used floor screws the same as I had pulled out of the old floor. The screws have a T30 torx socket head, and the thread is self tapping.
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii297/mudtoy67/XJ/DSCN4558.jpg

And the finished deck. Still need to treat it and weld on the new d-rings.
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii297/mudtoy67/XJ/DSCN4559.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii297/mudtoy67/XJ/DSCN4561.jpg

BDR, where do you find the socket head torx floor screws? Just Home Depot? And do you have to pre-drill the board?

I ended up buying the gooseneck. It needs a little work, but nothing major.

Deck, redo the rigging on the ramps, 7way plug, and drive over fenders

[mudtoy67]

There's a specialty screw company across the street from my office. They had them in stock. I think I asked for trailer floor screws and they knew what I wanted. The screws are self tapping, but you do have to pre-drill. If you get me a quantity I can get you a quote/pick them up.

http://www.northwestfastener.com/

[JB]

Thanks. I will get a count tonight.

[TdmayfieldIV]

Gooseneck has em. I'm sure any trailer dealer that has a parts dept will stock them

[JB]

300

[JB]

19357
This is the trailer I bought a couple weeks back. It is 25' with no dove.

It needed some wiring repairs and I did enough to make it to Clayton. I still need to wire back the breakaway and unrig some other brake related stuff. Changed it to a 7 blade also

It needs a new deck and some repairs To the ramp setup, but should be good after that.

Has 2 7000lb axles with brakes on both and 4 new tires. Came with 2 chains, binders, and 2 extra strAps....but no title just yet. Still working in that

Guy says it weighs 3200 empty

[JB]

19358
19359

This the Frick's Dads old 6x10 tilt Jeremiah and I bought for the Ranger. Primed and painted the whole thing, all new wiring and lights, new 2x8s, weather sealed, moved the spare and a few other things. Plan to get the wheels mounted this week. I need to weld some d rings on and I would also like to find some mesh or something to put on the sides

[BroncoJo]

How are you going about getting the title?

[JB]

19360

[JB]

How are you going about getting the title?

The guy's boss owns the trailer and the title is in his name and he apparently has lost it. I called him when i left the tax office and he seemed like he would take care of it. We'll see. Not going to start on it until I get that resolved

[JB]

19364

[davido]

Nice wheels! :)

[Shaggy]

My dodge is really starting to get worn out being my work truck now. Friday the AC stopped blowing out the vents. I took it in to dodge to check it out and it has atleast 3 of the 5 actuators broken and the condenser is dirty with a likely leak. You have to tear the whole dash and center consul apart to fix it. The bid the job with 8.4 hours labor will be ~2200. Guess I'm gonna roll with the windows down until I come up with a better bid. This truck is starting to be a headache. Keeps having problems.

[sam_hodnett]

That's what you get for buying a dodge

[JB]

It's not under warranty? I have 100k on everything on the F250

[Sparling]

What Sam said. I met a guy who bought a 2012 Dodge and the transmission went out in 50 miles and after convincing them to buy it back he got another Dodge and the A/C went out at 150 miles. I have heard way too many bad things about the new dodges at work.

[BroncoJo]

All new trucks suck

[Sparling]

I can't agree. Aside from all the new emissions crap, the Fords are really nice, I haven't been in a new Chevy and my uncle has a Dodge which isn't bad if there weren't so many problems with them.

[sam_hodnett]

Why is this discussion happening in the trailer thread? sounds like more of a tow rig/diesel thread topic

[BroncoJo]

Our Fords are always broke down and who the **** would want a truck with a 24 gallon fuel tank? seriously my girlfriends Camry can drive further on a tank of gas... And Chevys are still like cars :flipoff2:

[FJAggie07]

They all suck. I hear the Fords have emissions problems, my 2011 Chevy has emissions problems, been in the shop 3 times in 25K miles for emissions and fluid sensors going out. At least it has a 100K mile warranty I guess.

[sam_hodnett]

Interesting, I havent had one single problem out of my 04. But i am getting more nervous on a daily basis about my injectors...

[BroncoJo]

Interesting, I havent had one single problem out of my 04. But i am getting more nervous on a daily basis about my injectors...

That's not a new truck....

[JB]

All new trucks suck

Arguing brand versus brand is about the most childish, redneck arguement to have.....but if you ARE going to argue it, Dodge is really never going to win :flipoff2:

[JB]

30k on my big gay 6.7 and ZERO issues, but Travis says they suck, so it must suck.

I love how people say "We got a fleet of (insert brand here) for our oil company, driven by 10 different oilfield trash rednecks and they all crap out at 100k miles, pieces of ****,"

[redcagepatrol]

my 2008 is still going strong with no problems and 62,000 miles. I changed the fuel filter twice and tranny fluid once - besides the typical oil and filter change. Oh, I changed the air filter once to a K&N type, and have cleaned it once after that.

[sam_hodnett]

That's not a new truck....

No ****, was arguing the fact that older diesels are better quality. May not have as much power, but mine gets me everywhere I need to go and is one of the tightest trucks i have ever driven, even with 165k

[BroncoJo]

30k on my big gay 6.7 and ZERO issues, but Travis says they suck, so it must suck.

I love how people say "We got a fleet of (insert brand here) for our oil company, driven by 10 different oilfield trash rednecks and they all crap out at 100k miles, pieces of ****,"


HA I have yet to see any of the new diesels make over 50k, and they are all individually assigned and we have these ****ing black boxes that won't allow speed in excess of 70mph or more than 1/2-3/4 throttle. Not to mention all service is done at the dealership. Ford actually quit selling us diesels....


edit- don't forget I'm not being serious John, I'm sure your truck would suit a soccer mom making them long hauls to the grocery store just fine :flipoff2:

[JB]

Ford actually quit selling us diesels....

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This doesn't really help your argument.

[Shaggy]

I have 100k power train and it got me a new transmission in November. But the AC is on me. Have 91k on a 2.5 year old truck. I think mainly the work I do with it is causing it issues. The sand business isn't a clean one. Just frustrated that a "new" truck is having issues. My 08 never had a problem but it only had 30k on it when I got rid of it.

[BroncoJo]

This doesn't really help your argument.

Not quite sure what my argument is but technically we could still buy the power-stroke but it would come with a zero mile warranty... And are trucks may be ragged out when it comes to the interior and body but they have a very easy life.

[Sparling]

my 2008 is still going strong with no problems and 62,000 miles. I changed the fuel filter twice and tranny fluid once - besides the typical oil and filter change. Oh, I changed the air filter once to a K&N type, and have cleaned it once after that.

Not sure if it's an issue on your truck, but k&n filters are notorious for leaking air around the edges on 7.3 trucks and letting a good amount of dirt into the turbo. Just something to look into if you plan on keeping the truck a while.

[Seth]

Does your phone auto-correct 'our' to 'are'? I hope so.

[AggieTJ2007]

Interesting, I havent had one single problem out of my 04. But i am getting more nervous on a daily basis about my injectors...

Have you checked the balance rates? Let me know the next time you are in Wylie and you can come by and check them.

[AggieTJ2007]

HA I have yet to see any of the new diesels make over 50k, and they are all individually assigned and we have these ****ing black boxes that won't allow speed in excess of 70mph or more than 1/2-3/4 throttle. Not to mention all service is done at the dealership. Ford actually quit selling us diesels....


edit- don't forget I'm not being serious John, I'm sure your truck would suit a soccer mom making them long hauls to the grocery store just fine :flipoff2:

But I bet your guys let them idle all day long especially if it is hot or cold

[BroncoJo]

But I bet your guys let them idle all day long especially if it is hot or cold

This, we pretty much live out of them.

[AggieTJ2007]

so how many hours are on one of your trucks with only 50k miles?

Idling is also probably the worst thing for the newer diesels because the particulate filters don't get a proper chance to regen. From what I understand the newer diesels really need to have plenty of highway miles and to tow as often as possible to create the elevated EGT's necessary to clean out the particulate filter

[Sharpe]

Does your phone auto-correct 'our' to 'are'? I hope so.

You've been around long enough to know it doesnt...

[BroncoJo]

No idea, you generally can only idle for a day or so before having to drive to regen. On a related note the new kenworths have a lot of extra emissions crap, not for sure if its dpf, and seem to have little problem even though they are almost never shut off.

[StevenAg03]

No idea, you generally can only idle for a day or so before having to drive to regen. On a related note the new kenworths have a lot of extra emissions crap, not for sure if its dpf, and seem to have little problem even though they are almost never shut off.


i hate to be the bearer of bad news, but your wrong... wanna know how i know???

[Shaggy]

Mine does a lot of idle time. I'm seeing around 400+ hours between service (10,000 miles) although mine also sees plenty of tow time also so it goes back and forth. I have only seen it regen a hand full of times but have heard it idle up while parked lots of times.

[BroncoJo]

i hate to be the bearer of bad news, but your wrong... wanna know how i know???

Are they suppose to last longer? If so it was probably because mine was a piece of ****. I should have a new gas truck soon.

[StevenAg03]

Are they suppose to last longer? If so it was probably because mine was a piece of ****. I should have a new gas truck soon.

i was specifically referring to this statement:


On a related note the new kenworths have a lot of extra emissions crap....

dont know what your definition of new is, but 2013 emissions requirements presented little to no discernible difference to the end user... though i doubt you have a new KW with 2013 emissions on it...

[JB]

What's this regen y'all are talking about? Mine occasionally says "cleaning exhaust filter", but it only lasts 5 seconds and nothing changes

Mine drinks alot of diesel if I idle, so I don't.

[AggieTJ2007]

That is what we are talking about. In the simplest of terms it bumps up the exhaust temperatures to clean the particulate filter probably

[BroncoJo]

i was specifically referring to this statement:



dont know what your definition of new is, but 2013 emissions requirements presented little to no discernible difference to the end user... though i doubt you have a new KW with 2013 emissions on it...


I'll have to check, last I saw was little green stickers that said clean idle approved plastered all over the new pump trucks. However as I said before I'm not sure if anything was changed or if they have a DPF at all.

[StevenAg03]

I'll have to check, last I saw was little green stickers that said clean idle approved plastered all over the new pump trucks. However as I said before I'm not sure if anything was changed or if they have a DPF at all.

2007-2009 → DPF
2010-2012 → DPF + SCR
2013-2015 → DPF + SCR
2016-??? → ????

Without know what sticker your talking about, i cant say for sure, but it is most likely somehitng for California and NOT EPA.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

That green sticker is CALI idle approved I am almost positive. Have seen them on my brothers new big trucks before.

[StevenAg03]

That green sticker is CALI idle approved I am almost positive. Have seen them on my brothers new big trucks before.

are you talking about this one ed? They are the C.A.R.B. (California Air Resource Board) labels.

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I dont think that this is what he is talking about though as they arent green and they arent small. They are about 6" wide and 4" tall and gold...