Rig Sleds (The Trailer Thread)

[BMFScout]

Thought we could use a thread specifically for trailers since most of us have one. I know there has been discussion in other threads, hopefully this will keep it centralized from now on.

Here's some more links:

http://tamor.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9589

http://tamor.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9439

http://tamor.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8158

http://tamor.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2090

http://tamor.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3748

http://tamor.org/forums/showthread.php?t=5289

http://tamor.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3464

Tried to find the one about Chadnutz overloading his truck out at riverside and then getting in a big *****fest about it, but couldn't. That one was classic!


Dad and I relocated the spare tires on my sled last night to right behind the trailer box so that you could see the sides of the trailer again. We're going to mount some marker lights on the front of the fenders as well. It was really annoying at night to look in your rearview and see nothing. The tires looked cool mounted out on the side, but they are more out of the way behind the box.

Next is to build some new ramps even though I never use them and to find some new floor lights. I'm thinking truckstop in Oklahoma on the way to Mizzou this weekend.

[jerryg79]

just looked for that chadnutz one too, maybe it got kilt.

[Fredo]

I think it was part of the Original Mazda build thread that he got pissy and deleted.

[eight]

I still think I have that thread saved somewhere.

[Seth]

I havent towed too many rigs, but this weekend I was really impressed by David's setup. I don't know if it was the truck or trailer, but if nothing else, it proves that a pipe top utilty, if wide enough, is more than capable. It didn't bounce or jerk or anything.

[Jackasic]

i ordered on last week and I am going to Ennis later this week to pick it up. 18'x84" pipe top, 3" channel sides, wood floor, 7K axles with brakes on one, fold up ramps. 2,500 bucks drive out, not to bad.

[Sharpe]

I hate my trailer. Its only redeming quality is that it gets the job done, most of the time.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Pro-Trak 32' (27'flat-5'dove) w/ two fold down ramps. It it a little on the heavy side for just haulin rigs (just ask David :D ), but I bought it for use on the farm and haulin equipment in mind. It has a large beam down the middle to help w/ the torque when you get it off-road, I have pulled other trailers w/ out and it makes a noticable difference. There were some small additions to the ramps made after I laid a 4-wheeler over on me tryin to load it (ramps are too wide in the middle and it was slick from a recent rain). :eek:


Here's one of it loaded up at the house.
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/Trips/TCC%20V/2007.jpg

Here is one of the winch hooked up. I just need to make a pigtail to reach the back of the pick-up and possibly look into installing a couple of slave batteries for it.
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/Trips/The%20Great%20Bus%20Gettin%20Trip%20of%2007/100_2651.jpg

Saw this after the drive down to CS after welding the reciever hitch on, guess there was a few embers and the drive down kept them going. Guess I am lucky to not have to replace the whole floor. :EEK:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/Trips/The%20Great%20Bus%20Gettin%20Trip%20of%2007/100_2645.jpg

Here is one of the "upper deck" I added...
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/Chevy/ALTO%2024%20JUNE%2006/2006.jpg

[Sharpe]

Mewant pics of 4-wheeler on top of you.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

You can probably get one if you come to the RNG next year. :gigem:

[JB]

20ft
5200lb axles
removable fenders
2 5/16" ball
brakes

[Sharpe]

20ft
5200lb axles
removable fenders
2 5/16" ball
brakes
angry

Fixed.

[mudtoy67]

I think a trailer like these would be sweet...

lightweight
compact (doesn't take a lot of room when it's sitting around)
unique

Only problem is it's pretty much limited to just hauling your rig around.


http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8749/attachmentfg8.jpg


http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/92/attachmentcp8.jpg

[JB]

Fixed.


Que?

[JB]

Do those trailers have ramps?

I wonder how much those cost.

[mudtoy67]

I don't know a whole lot about them. I saw them on PBB. Supposedly Scorpion4x4 was making them for a while, but don't seem to anymore? By the looks of it they don't have ramps...the "deck" is low enough to drive up on.

[Seth]

tie downs? looks heavy on the tongue too.

[agjohn02]

I don't know a whole lot about them. I saw them on PBB. Supposedly Scorpion4x4 was making them for a while, but don't seem to anymore? By the looks of it they don't have ramps...the "deck" is low enough to drive up on.


sucks if you are broken as scotti was at clayton. i had to get the ramps out to get it on the trailer. using a winch to get on the trailer due to one broken axleshaft is gay.

[redcagepatrol]

sucks to have dirty street water sprayed up on your rig too... OK for the desert I guess

[Graystroke]

I bet they are balanced fairly well for a particular rig. The only problem is what john said, looks like it could have ramps by the looks of the tail. W/O and broken would not be fun. You could make it into a tilting trailer, but those suck as far as being rigid. The only other thing I noticed is it would be a biatch to change an inside dual w/ a flat. Also, I bet it would buck and bounce w/o having tandem wheels.

[mudtoy67]

Ya, this trailer wouldn't be everyone's dream. I think they're pretty cool, but then again I know there are other times where I'll need a trailer to move other stuff/vehicles and this trailer would probably not be suited to that. Looking at the other pictures in the links below, it does look like the tan one has ramps. It would still be a pain to load a broken rig having to go over the trailer tires.


As far as dirty street water goes.....what are we hauling, show trucks? :flipoff2:


http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7614708&postcount=2

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7614713&postcount=3

[Graystroke]

plus, it would throw rocks all on your shiney new underbelly paint!

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Que?


angry

[JeepPhisherman]

Ya, this trailer wouldn't be everyone's dream. I think they're pretty cool, but then again I know there are other times where I'll need a trailer to move other stuff/vehicles and this trailer would probably not be suited to that. Looking at the other pictures in the links below, it does look like the tan one has ramps. It would still be a pain to load a broken rig having to go over the trailer tires.


As far as dirty street water goes.....what are we hauling, show trucks? :flipoff2:


http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7614708&postcount=2

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7614713&postcount=3

Those are pretty neat.

Where do you see ramps on the tan one?

[mudtoy67]

The 3rd, 4th, 5th pics. Between the wheels looks like ramps.

[AggieTJ2007]

look the tire was there

[JeepPhisherman]

The 3rd, 4th, 5th pics. Between the wheels looks like ramps.

Looks like a crossmember to me, I don't think they have ramps.



Car hauler - wood deck vs. steel?

[JB]

angry

I guess I am dumb. Why is it angry

[Graystroke]

wood= pressure treated, cooler to lay on when your straping down your truck, anti-slip...also when you carry other things (if you do) won't slip...I imagine a wood deck is a lot lighter, won't last as long as steel, cheaper

Steel= last forever, very slick when wet, hot in the summer, stuff slides off if you want it too, durable, heavy, expensive

I'm a wood deck man.
Our trailer has a metal dove tail w/ a tool box in the tail. rest is pressure treated wood. for as much other things we hall...engines, axles, lumber, etc. it's easy to strap down and doesn't slide around.
A guy I once worked w/ had a steel deck goose neck and was having trouble w/ his truck. He was carrying a small dozer. He pulled over on the shoulder and dropped the right side tires off the edge. The boomers popped and the dozer slid right off the trailer.

[mudtoy67]

Looks like a crossmember to me, I don't think they have ramps.



Car hauler - wood deck vs. steel?

Looks like two ramps next to each other to me. :confused2


Another trailer I've been thinking would be nice to have would be a "toy hauler". CDR's dad has an old gooseneck hay trailer I was thinking would be up to the task. Build a deck on the rear of the trailer, then mount a pop-up camper on the front. Only thing is it would have the same problem as the single axle trailer.....too specialized. It would be more usefull to get a flat bed trailer and just strap a pop-up camper to it whenever it's needed.

[agjohn02]

Build a deck on the rear of the trailer, then mount a pop-up camper on the front.

nah, needs a cabover. pop-ups are a PITA

[Graystroke]

what about dismounting the pop up of its tires. welding a skid on the bottom w/ some D-rings. then fork it on the trailer and strap it down...You would have to find something like a little cloeman to be able to sit sideways. I think a pop-up would be great b/c they are light and would be less drag

[DRAGOONRANCH]

wood= pressure treated, cooler to lay on when your straping down your truck, anti-slip...also when you carry other things (if you do) won't slip...I imagine a wood deck is a lot lighter, won't last as long as steel, cheaper

Steel= last forever, very slick when wet, hot in the summer, stuff slides off if you want it too, durable, heavy, expensive

I'm a wood deck man.


x2

Ice on the deck is another story. Seems harder to get off the wood than the steel, so steel>wood if you are going to deal w/ much ice. (From my experience on a cold as **** alto trip) Expanded metal ontop of the steel is pretty good, but a ***** to lay on if you have to do much work or even just try to slide on it when hooking up. I would not trust my vehicle to ride on just the ex-metal though. I didn't see evidence when lookin the other day of any supports under the tires, seems dangerous to me.

[mudtoy67]

what about dismounting the pop up of its tires. welding a skid on the bottom w/ some D-rings. then fork it on the trailer and strap it down...You would have to find something like a little cloeman to be able to sit sideways. I think a pop-up would be great b/c they are light and would be less drag

Exactly my thinking on the pop-up, smaller for less drag and less weight. Plus I think i may be able to come across one a bit cheaper than a cabover. Though I can see where John gets his concern....some of the pop-ups I've looked at, though in good shape, were poorly designed.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

what about dismounting the pop up of its tires. welding a skid on the bottom w/ some D-rings. then fork it on the trailer and strap it down...You would have to find something like a little cloeman to be able to sit sideways. I think a pop-up would be great b/c they are light and would be less drag


Not everybody has a forklift just sittin around the garage. ;) ( :flipoff2: )

I don't have much experience w/ popups, but it just seems to me that if you're going through the trouble, why not just do this....


:D

Pic to come later

[DRAGOONRANCH]

had to did through a few old links to find it...

http://pic12.picturetrail.com/VOL419/1417243/9067667/129534428.jpg

EDIT to fix picture link

[Graystroke]

damn that would be HEAVY! you would have to find a big diesel towter for that.
He has neighbors w/ a front end loader...just get some forks to go on the bucket.

[agjohn02]

Not everybody has a forklift just sittin around the garage. ;) ( :flipoff2: )



we do :flipoff2:

ill post pics one of these days...


all pop-ups are a pain. they do pull easier than a regular camper but i always hate putting ours up when you get to where you are going are folding it back up when you get ready to leave. it would really be a pita if it was up on a deckover.

[Sharpe]

Thats a long way to fall when you step out the door drunk to go take a piss...

[Graystroke]

we do :flipoff2:

ill post pics one of these days...


all pop-ups are a pain. they do pull easier than a regular camper but i always hate putting ours up when you get to where you are going are folding it back up when you get ready to leave. it would really be a pita if it was up on a deckover.
i don't think he is talking of putting on the deck over...just below
everbody should have a forklift, forklifts are cheap.

[agjohn02]

im talking about deckover the tires, a float if you will.

[Graystroke]

looking at that picture you posted ed, imagine the tongue weight w/o a rig behend their...even then you would probably only want one truck on there so you could take some of the tongue weight off.

[Graystroke]

im talking about deckover the tires, a float if you will.
im still not follwing you. here is what i was talking about

[DRAGOONRANCH]

im still not follwing you. here is what i was talking about



If you were going to go through all the trouble of hacking a pop up (read: cheap) for this purpose, seems it would be even cheaper to just get a 20' bumperpull flat, and put a hitch to tow the pop up behind it. Then when the cheap piece of junk doesn't work anymore, you can throw it away and get another and not have to worry about more retrofitting. :D

You are right about that being some tounge weight w/ the setup I posted, but that is a purpose built rig and will probably see very little time w/ out rigs on it.

[Graystroke]

If you were going to go through all the trouble of hacking a pop up (read: cheap) for this purpose, seems it would be even cheaper to just get a 20' bumperpull flat, and put a hitch to tow the pop up behind it. Then when the cheap piece of junk doesn't work anymore, you can throw it away and get another and not have to worry about more retrofitting. :D



I have seen some cheap pop up campers for sale. $275-$1000 the are not hard to find. w/ the retro you don't have to worry about tires, lights, or registration/title.

[BMFScout]

Gooseneck car hauler. Something like this would be good?

http://dallas.craigslist.org/grd/734876476.html

Would need to haul two scouts or two impalas I would think, otherwise what is the point? (a '63 is like 18' long or something like that) So how long would it need to be, axle configuration, steel or wood deck? (preferred steel thus far) Just dreaming at this point.

[jerryg79]

watchu gonna pull it wif?

[BMFScout]

My friend Jerry has a dodge! Dad's been talking about getting a dmax.

[Reckless]

Dad's been talking about getting a dmax.

What, so you can do smokey burnouts at the highschool too?:gigem:

[Graystroke]

why don't you just borrow my Dad's? It is a 34' w/ a 7' dovetail. The PO hauled Dodge/Plymouth Roadrunners, Darts, challengers two at a time.

[Graystroke]

oh yeah, he just put on an 8k ramsey winch too

[BMFScout]

Done deal if he wants to store it in Princeton and keep up maintenance on it! :gigem:

[jerryg79]

wha??? papa brune wif a diesel?

what's next, rowdy does a skinny chick?

[Graystroke]

Yeah, I thought you Dad swore off diesels after Fred woke up w/ a Adolf Hitler mustache.

[BMFScout]

I think he wants to get one so he can ***** about it.

[Fredo]

Kind of like working on boats, I think he likes to have something to complain about. Either that, or the Dmax has convinced him all diesels aren't evil.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

what's next, rowdy does a skinny chick?

I showed him the err of his ways and now have him on the path of enlightenment.

:gigem:

[Cajun]

Wood deck. Steel deck + Texas sun = pain.

[rockfrawg]

Either that, or the Dmax has convinced him all diesels aren't evil.
...might have gotten the itch in the AA parking lot ;)

[agjohn02]

Wood deck. Steel deck + Texas sun = pain.

+ water/oil = slippery

[DRAGOONRANCH]

...might have gotten the itch in the AA parking lot ;)

I am pretty sure that is not the only itch that has been 'got' in the AA p-lot. :flipoff2:

[DRAGOONRANCH]

+ water/oil = slippery

Wood deck +

water and sun = rot

slag from cutting torch = fire

I am not promoting a steel deck, just playin devils advocate :flipoff2:

[agjohn02]

...and i wasnt discouraging a steel deck.

[texasxj]

Finally got my dovetail going last weekend. Pics are following. Starting on moving the axles back about 8 inches and real fenders this afternoon and weekend. Had to take a Robbie picture too!:flipoff2:

[Doug Krebs]

looks heavy!

[BMFScout]

heavy is good...

[DRAGOONRANCH]

How hard is it going to be to get into that toolbox where it's at? Other than that, lookin good.

[eight]

Remove the jack from the tongue and put a swing jack on the side. Then but the box on the tongue.

[texasxj]

I hate side jacks, especially lifting a heavy trailer. All of our small trailers have them. The tool box is really only for chains and straps, so whenever Im pulling the jeep, really wont matter. I can still open the lid about halfway with my bumper above me.

Didnt really want to use 5" channel for the slats on the dovetail, but its what I had at the time. The trailer is/was fairly light.

[JB]

Why does it matter if the jack is on the side or in the middle. My swing away jack is mounted on the side and it seems to work just fine lifting the trailer with the Bronco on it. And I don't have to worry about bottoming out on the jack

I'm a dumbass or was drinking. I do have a swing away jack, but it is in the middle. I havent seen my trailer in a while and was thinking of my old car hauler. It working fine either way though.

[AggieTJ2007]

sometimes on heavy trailers the swing jacks try to twist, but i perfer them

[BMFScout]

electric jack, its what high class rednecks use.

[Graystroke]

electric jack, its what high class rednecks use.

or rednecks w/ trailers that have 900 lbs of tongue weight empty

[jerryg79]

or rednecks w/ trailers that have 900 lbs of tongue weight empty

oh dis slam!!!!

[BMFScout]

or rednecks w/ trailers that have 900 lbs of tongue weight empty

Coming from a man that knows quality trailers!! I'll take mine over yours anyday! :flipoff2:

[DRAGOONRANCH]

I have had too many people move a trailer with a hard mounted jack and either be too lazy or just forget to raise it all the way up and drag and bend it. That irks me to no end, so that's why all my stuff gets removable jacks. The toolbox there is nice as long as you don't need to go pick up a buddy's car or something that's not going to fit with it on there. :D I like it though, you will definitely be able to haul whatever you want on that one though.

[texasxj]

Thats why we run side jacks on our work trailers. I hook up trailers and then take the jacks off and put them in a toolbox, so the canadicans cant bend them. I just prefer center frames.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

I don't have any canadicans using my stuff most of the time, I have to worry more about family. :(


:laughing:

[Graystroke]

Coming from a man that knows quality trailers!! I'll take mine over yours anyday! :flipoff2:

$200, enough said. and don't be knocking the "Quick Response Hurricane Relief Trailer"!:flipoff2:

[CheapJeep]

Had to take a Robbie picture too!:flipoff2:

Don't be knockin' my asian tourist picture takin'.:D

Looks good, nice and beefy. My dad bent the center solid mount jack on our little trailer a couple times after dragging it over rocks out at the ranch. We ended up building a flat skid which raised the jack. Now the foot of the jack is flush with bottom of the frame when it's all the way up.

[Sharpe]

I have a center mount 5000 lb jack on my trailer and while it is overkill at half the trailer's weight rating, it makes lifting the tongue with a heavy load MUCH easier. The only problem is when someone forgets to raise the foot before taking off. I did this once and bent the ***** so bad I had to replace the entire jack.

Clayton, please tell me the toolbox is mounted to the deck and not the tongue? (For those that dont know, its a tilt deck)

[texasxj]

Yes its on 2 pieces of 1.5 st along the deck.

[texasxj]

Got the axles moved back a total of 12 inches. I hope it isnt too much. Before I had to move the jeep essentially where the bumper was halfway over the tongue to keep it from walking, so hopefully this fixes that.

[Sharpe]

When did you replace the axles?

[texasxj]

Before katemcy.

[Graystroke]

it would be tits if you made a set up that copied big rig trailers...like on 53' vans that slide the axles. just pull a pin hold the electric brake on and back up or pull forward to move the axles.:gigem:

[BMFScout]

http://www.trailersnmore.net/texas.htm

Scariest contraption since the guillotine. My old roomate's dad had one, I think one of us almost lost a hand one night loading it up, fawk that.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

http://www.trailersnmore.net/texas.htm

Scariest contraption since the guillotine. My old roomate's dad had one, I think one of us almost lost a hand one night loading it up, fawk that.

Why does the image of my grandad and him saying "Boy, ya gotta be smarter than what ya workin with" pop into my head?

:flipoff2:

[BMFScout]

Well you have to understand who I was working with. I'm just saying it relies on the electric trailer brakes to hold, and there is a lot of force on it. If they don't hold, or it's muddy or whatever, things are going to start moving really fast. In our case the brakes weren't working, so they decided to chock the wheels. The chock let go and the axles came slamming forward and deck rocked back, it was fawked up. I just think it's gimmicky and dangerous, don't see the need for it.

[tigweld]

everytime I see one of those being loaded or unloaded I just stand back and watch as usually it's quite the show. electric trailer brakes don't work in reverse and surge brakes suck also, so in my opinion there really is no way to make these trailers load and unload reliably. if you hate ramps that bad get a tilt deck.

[Shaggy]

the one I used back when I actually had a working bronco was a tilt deck... bad dude it had a cylinder so it didn't just slam down.... had surge brakes too but I like them

[Sharpe]

That trailer was ****ing massive.

[Shaggy]

yup

[Graystroke]

I wasn't talking about loading...I was talking about moving the axle to balance the load. If you keep it greased it doesn't take much to movee them.

[eight]

The one I've used had a lever you flipped from the axle to the wheel and locked the wheel. Electric brakes never work on farm trailers anyway.

http://www.donahue-trailers.com/implement.html

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Electric brakes never work on farm trailers anyway.

http://www.donahue-trailers.com/implement.html

speak for your self kolpecker, not all farmers are polaks, just the cheap ones...

:flipoff2:

[JeepPhisherman]

http://www.donahue-trailers.com/implement.html

Does that really work?

Seems like you would just push the un-loaded wheels around.

[eight]

Yep. They've been around for a long dam time.

[Reckless]

We have one of those. Handier than hell

[DRAGOONRANCH]

If kolpecker AND rowdy can use them, then anybody could use it. :D

[TMatheaus]

We have one of those. Handier than hell

is that how you take your women out, drop the trailer and roll them on :flipoff2:

[jerryg79]

is that how you take your women out, drop the trailer and roll them on :flipoff2:

noice!

[Reckless]

Na, i usually take the stock trailer and a lead rope

[RCcola55]

i might have to call val and ask about that

[Reckless]

hahaha yea she would laugh, then kill

[DRAGOONRANCH]

I have tried to tell yall Rowdy has moved on up in the world.

(Val is gonna gomer outa one of yall if you don't knock off the fat girl jokes. ;) )

[uglyota]

realized that I never posted my sled here. Bought in Hempstead for $500, pulled it to CS like it was on fire to beat sundown since it didn't have lights. Bought $200 worth of garbage pressure treated from Home Depot and re-decked. Lights from Harbor Freight, left the farm trailer tag on it and pulled it to Denton to pick up a toyota for the family property (the ugly-er truck). Got the toyota, pulled it back to CS and parked trailer (with toyota on top) for a couple of weeks until I had a chance to take it to Mississippi. If you've read this far you may be thinking that I've omitted some details, like repacking bearings, etc...the kind of maintenance you generally do when you buy a trailer that's nearly 20 years old and been hauling hay its entire life. Nope, only thing I've done at this point is source a spare wheel/tire for it and checked/added air every time I use it. One of the tires wouldn't hold air for more than about 2 days. So I pull it to MS with ugly-er truck on top, pull it back empty, park for a couple of months. I think at this point I got a set of new (to me) tires for it. $100 take-offs that really weren't in great condition. But at least I didn't have to drive 5mph to the gas station with a flat every time I picked it up out of storage. Next trip to Mississippi I pulled it out there empty and pulled it back with the gem you see below. That is one heavy-ass piece of chevy, if you were wondering. Sharpe and Kopecki can attest that the trip went down without event, however. The next big trip for this trailer was from Houston to Denver. Thank God it has a 2 5/16 hitch on it, because that's the size that Penske trucks have on them. Right under the sticker that says "Only Penske trailers may be pulled with this truck" (or something to that effect). Checked the air, loaded up uglytruck, and let er rip! Every fuel stop on that trip I did do a little once-over to make sure that it was, in fact, still there, and sure enough, she didn't leave me! She's now made a few short trips pulling uglytruck to a buddy's house to wrench (and even once to wheel) but now mainly serves to decorate my backyard. I don't really have any desire to move her out of the backyard right now because, to get it in there, I had to take a sawzall to my fence, unload uglytruck and unhitch the trailer, then comealong the trailer on in. It was a pain in the ass that I don't want to be subjected to every time I want to go wheeling.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_BtG9ElGqcd4/SSc_N7ktiDI/AAAAAAAAAdI/xlLNNdon79M/s720/IMG_0597.jpg
now I'

[uglyota]

Eric's Trailer Blog: page 2

So I want to get rid of her and buy or build another. I know, I know. I've rode her hard and put her away wet, yet she always puts out with nary a whimper, but the backyard issue really is irreconcilable, so I've spent some time thinking about what I liked/disliked about this one and what I might want in the next.

First: of course the length. But turning radius is as important or more so. So I am thinking a shorter tongue length (really tire-to-hitch length). I know it won't pull as well but what good is that if I'm too lazy to use it?

Second: the rails drive me crazy. Tough to do anything axle-related with those rails in the way. Tough to open the doors or crawl under the rig with the rails in the way. No rails

Third: I think I like the angle construction (versus channel). It pulls like a dream and that may have something to do with the frame flexing. Not sure you can eliminate the rails without going to channel construction though.

Fourth (random ideas): Next one I want to put stake pockets and build removable sides for hauling brush/garbage/whatever. Make it a utility trailer when the need arises. I also think I might make the floor out of diamond plate treads and use 3/4" plywood between them. Think that will make things cheaper, and if I want to work under the truck with it on the trailer (i.e. change clutch on a trip) it may give a little more head room. Like a mechanic's pit! Lastly, I'd like to put a couple of receptacles for a hoist on it; so I could have a swiveling crane that I could put at 4 or 6 positons around the trailer. Do you know how much people out here pay for rocks?!

last edit: /blog. Thanks for reading :gigem:

[Doug Krebs]

Tell me again why it's hard to get out of the backyard? Looks like that whole back fence can open up?

PS, you're post are ****ed up, unless you're editing them.

[uglyota]

yes I'm editing them
The alley's only like 12 feet wide, I might could swing it into the far side fence if I put a hitch on the front of my truck, but backing it ain't happening

[J Cooper]

is that your dog?

how much of your man card is left? :flipoff2:

[uglyota]

that picture of my Sanford and Son backyard and you question the validity of my man-card!? Buster was going to be my dog after my dad adopted it and decided after 6 months that he didn't want it anymore, but he gave him back to the rescue before I could get him. Kind of a touchy subject between us.

[J Cooper]

that picture of my Sanford and Son backyard and you question the validity of my man-card!?

it just looks like a pit bull would be more fitting for that yard :D

[uglyota]

Soon. I'll take a picture of coletrain back there this weekend if that will make you feel better :D

[TMatheaus]

is there any way to put a gate in your front yard to gain access to the back?

[Doug Krebs]

What about a front hitch on one of your vehicles?

[uglyota]

lot is 25 ft wide, house is like 20. Front gate is 2' wide. I really need to get in touch with the guy that owns the lot next door and buy it and fence it all in.
I want to put a bumper on the tahoe, so maybe I'll find one that has a receiver and problem solved?

[Doug Krebs]

I want to put a bumper on the tahoe, so maybe I'll find one that has a receiver and problem solved?

Exactly, I'm sure you've hooked a trailer to the front of something and seen the results of how much sharper you can turn.

[uglyota]

I actually haven't...but I walked around in my alley making vroom vroom noises and turning a mock trucker steering wheel, so I can imagine what it'd be like!

[eight]

I could sell you jeep hauling trailer. You're not gonna make anything much more maneuverable than it. The sides can be cut off, the frame is 6" channel. You could even shorten the hitch some.

It works well but I keep thinking I might want to take jeep and a quad on trips so I'd need an 18'.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Search CL for an old riding mower that runs but needs deck work. Take off deck and put hitch on mower then use it to park said trailer.

[uglyota]

I could sell you jeep hauling trailer.
what have you got in it; $200? Double your money? ;)
Would you be interested in trading?

ed: need less crap, not more :)

[J Cooper]

I could sell you jeep hauling trailer. You're not gonna make anything much more maneuverable than it. The sides can be cut off, the frame is 6" channel. You could even shorten the hitch some.

It works well but I keep thinking I might want to take jeep and a quad on trips so I'd need an 18'.

i want jeep hauling trailer!

[uglyota]

Back off fool, don't think I won't cut you!

[J Cooper]

*****! i already asked him in december!

he must of had a pollock moment


not like you take your **** anywhere anyways! :flipoff2:

this one should work for your needs http://www.tamor.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10849

[uglyota]

ouch...two times!

just when you think you've got a friend!

[jerryg79]

ouch...two times!

just when you think you've got a friend!

david oliver wouldnt let a simple call of dibs stop him! Buy it out from under him!

[uglyota]

oh wow...now there's a blast from the past! Knoller doesn't even have that truck anymore, does he?
damn we just snaked the trailer thread...

[J Cooper]

ouch...two times!

just when you think you've got a friend!

if you really want it that bad, thats fine



ill just drive my jeep to the trips! :rolleyes:

[uglyota]

damn...the rolley-eyes? I's just playing. It's a PITA to get stuff up here from there anyway

[J Cooper]

damn...the rolley-eyes? I's just playing. It's a PITA to get stuff up here from there anyway

no im serious

real rigs drive home!!!:gigem:

[uglyota]

that's my goal for this spring!

[eight]

Forgot there was so much demand for this thing.

No Eric, I don't want a piece of ****.

[J Cooper]

Eric, I think that means I now win!

[uglyota]

Pollock start drinking whiskey early on his birthday?

[JB]

Thanks to Cooke, I have a nice mount for a ****ty winch. Turned out pretty good. Just have to paint.

[AggieTJ2007]

looks nice

[DRAGOONRANCH]

that's clean, will look even better once it gets some black glossy on it to match the trailer

[JB]

that's clean, will look even better once it gets some black glossy on it to match the trailer

you mean grey "truck matching" glossy on it. I'll get another pic tomorrow.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

so you gonna paint the whole trailer then?

[bcolman]

so you gonna paint the whole trailer then?

if i recall correctly when he bought it he had them paint it the same color as his truck

[DRAGOONRANCH]

I see said the blind man...

It looks black in the pictures to me, but momma always said I was color blind. :eek:

[JB]

...

[Doug Krebs]

where do the battery cables go? Is there battery box on there somewhere I can't see?

[Eckert]

where do the battery cables go? Is there battery box on there somewhere I can't see?

do believe he has ran cables to the back of his truck to run said winch. you can see the other end of the cable in the frame/tongue of the trailer.

[JB]

What you see in the pic on the frame rail is where I secure the excess when it is not hooked up. I hook that end to a connector on my bumper, that then gets power from the truck battery.

[uglyota]

do believe he has ran...

awesome...

[DRAGOONRANCH]

awesome...


Cox??? :flipoff2:

[Sharpe]

Thanks to Cooke, I have a nice mount for a ****ty winch. Turned out pretty good. Just have to paint.

Correction. Cook is not an Extra E Mother****er. Me and Ryan are still looking for #3 so we can get t-shirts made.

[JB]

Correction. Cook is not an Extra E Mother****er. Me and Ryan are still looking for #3 so we can get t-shirts made.

Ryan and I...

[AggieTJ2007]

I am toying with the idea of building an enclosed trailer like this

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=759642

[jerryg79]

I am toying with the idea of building an enclosed trailer like this

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=759642

didnt ed just post that the other day?

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Great minds think alike. ;)

I posted the link to the truck build from those same guys (I think that is the link I posted at least).

[F1504x4]

i like that idea..if either of you start something llike that good luck

[AggieTJ2007]

I already have it figure out, I am going to buy the trailer before we move from Corpus (next may or june) and use it to move all of our crap and then it will be converted to a race hauler

Oh and it has been approved by the budget committee

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Oh and it has been approved by the budget committee


Nice!

I take it you are looking to move to the DFW area?

[uglyota]

wow, that thing is freakin sick!

[mark]

Since room is tight at my Washington DC area townhouse, my trailer looks like this:

http://www.endoimage.com/Xterra/Towing/IMG_0267%20small.jpg

-Mark

[AggieTJ2007]

^^^sweet, and yes we are looking to head back to the DFW area

[JB]

That Nissan sits pretty well. Usually those UHaul trailers put alot of weight up front.

[mark]

That Nissan sits pretty well. Usually those UHaul trailers put alot of weight up front.

Airbags.

-Mark

[uglyota]

Since room is tight at my Washington DC area townhouse, my trailer looks like this:

http://www.endoimage.com/Xterra/Towing/IMG_0267%20small.jpg

-Mark

hate to see what your garage looks like...

[BMFScout]

Do those have trailer brakes? Do you tell them you are towing a jeep with a nissan, or do you tell them you are towing a volkswagen bug or something?

[uglyota]

they have hydraulic inertia brakes. I always tell them I'm pulling a civic with an f-350 :D

[mark]

Do those have trailer brakes? Do you tell them you are towing a jeep with a nissan, or do you tell them you are towing a volkswagen bug or something?

They have hydraulic surge brakes that work reasonably well but don't allow a weight distributing hitch.

I do tell them that I'm towing a Jeep CJ-7 with a Nissan Xterra. They figure the trailer weight at 2000#'s and the Jeep at 2700#'s. That's within the Xterra's published towing limits.

They limit their trailers to 4000#'s of payload which is very conservative. There's probably a 1000# margin of error built into that rating.

It use to be that you were at the mercy of the monkey behind the counter as to what you can tow with what. But now days, you fill in the vehicle info on line at the time of reservation and U-Haul's system figures out if its allowed. The clerk will confirm it, but so long as the vehicles are the same, the point of sale system will give it the OK. No more Op-Ed's by the U-Haul employee.

Is the Xterra up to towing it? 265hp, 281lb/ft of 4 liter V6 towing fury. Mine is a 6 speed manual so no tranny cooling issues. Rear axle is a M226 which is the HD Dana 44 used in the Jeep GC, Jeep JK Rubicon, Nissan Titan etc. Add to that the airbags and mild towing tune and it does just fine. Gross weight is around 9000'# against a ~9700# rating. Power to weight of 34#'s/hp which is better than the typical 50-70 lbs per hp for double or triple rig hauling with a GN and diesel P/U. 13.5 mpg at 70mph.

Its doable. Although as has been stated before, towing three rigs on a GN is more economical.

-Mark

[uglyota]

Jeep at 2700#'s.

:laughing:

[TexTJ209]

I always tell U-Haul I'm towing a 4-door Jeep Cherokee, which has always gotten me the larger of the two car hauler trailers. Squared fender U-Haul trailer is the one you want..not the round fender one.


****ty old pic, but yeah.
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p308/TexTJ209/1979%20Jeep%20Cherokee%20Golden%20Eagle/DSC00048.jpg

[mark]

:laughing:

No kidding. That's what it weighed from the factory.

I always play by the rules.

-Mark

[mark]

The "round fender" ones are pretty much gone. They now have two of the square fender varieties. The newest can handle 79" wide vehicle and has a galvanized deck. That's the one to get. The older ones have an orange deck and can handle a 74" wide vehicle.

The newest ones are impressive in terms of quality and pull well. Just check the tire pressure and bring your own straps.

I'd also recommend a surge brake test before going to far as well.

Lastly, you'll end up redoing the safety chains after the highly qualified tech hooks it up.

-Mark

[robertf03]

Lastly, you'll end up redoing the safety chains after the highly qualified tech hooks it up.

-Mark

Is that before or after the highly qualified tech doesn't plug the trailer harness in all the way and pops the hood to check fuses and breaks the plastic cover off of your fuse block rather than press the detent and lift?

[TexTJ209]

I've never had a "tech" hook up anything other than the trailer to my truck.

[mark]

http://www.tamor.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=16093&stc=1&d=1247701212

That's like the Lusitania rescuing the Titanic...

-Mark

[uglyota]

I've never had a "tech" hook up anything other than the trailer to my truck.

true dat. Maybe if you guys drove american trucks with v8s the techs would assume you knew how to hook a trailer to your own rig :flipoff2:

[TexTJ209]

true dat. Maybe if you guys drove american trucks with v8s the techs would assume you knew how to hook a trailer to your own rig :flipoff2:

Exactly!

Ignoring the fact the truck in my picture above is a Tundra, of course. :blacksmiley:

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Exactly!

Ignoring the fact the truck in my picture above is a Tundra, of course. :blacksmiley:

it's 1a1a1a. ;) :flipoff2:






:blackflipoff2: see, dat's howz ya dooz it.

[TexTJ209]

it's 1a1a1a. ;) :flipoff2:






:blackflipoff2: see, dat's howz ya dooz it.



I left out the last a. Although really, its better if you do it at the end of a sentence, so you don't have the big gap at the end that screams black text. Noob. :blackflipoff:
Looked right on the work PC's here though..

[DRAGOONRANCH]

I left out the last a. Although really, its better if you do it at the end of a sentence, so you don't have the big gap at the end that screams black text. Noob. :blackflipoff:
Looked right on the work PC's here though..


You have to be more careful trying to hide those remarks. ;)





plus, if you put it down here folks can find it easier, yet the stupid noobs still miss it. :blackbigsmileydoubleflipoff5:

[uglyota]

you silly freakin nerds quit c*nting up the trailer thread :blackflipoff2:

[DRAGOONRANCH]

you silly freakin nerds quit c*nting up the trailer thread :blackflipoff2:

you could have atleast typed something you NKOTB queer...



EDIT: oh wait, that was supposed to be black text, sorry bout that. :rolleyes:


:flipoff2:

[colman]

i just bought 2 tires for my trailer earlear. don't know if this is a decent deal or not but i paid 80 per tire for 10 ply carliles sp?

[KrazyKarl02]

That is cheap for brand new trailer tires. Where did you get them?

[colman]

they tacked on some mounting fees and crap but i was out the door for 190 at house of tires in bryan,

[AggieTJ2007]

http://columbus.craigslist.org/bar/1266799670.html

I like this one, hopefully I can find out some more about it

[FJAggie07]

that is impressive...

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Do Eet!

That is what I need because there is no way I will ever own a rig narrow enough to fit inside a true toyhauler.

That tire rack would look peepm with some 44" boggers riding up there too. :D

[Sharpe]

http://columbus.craigslist.org/bar/1266799670.html

I like this one, hopefully I can find out some more about it

Thats a good deal.

[FJAggie07]

Never posted pop's rig sled that takes our trucks everywhere. We went early this morning and picked up our ugly truck from a friend so i snapped some shots. 27' with a 5' Dove Tail. 3 Spring loaded ramps on the ass allow us to unhook and drop and go. Deck sits about the same height as the truck bed. Locking box in the front that we keep our chains and tie downs, pulls great and we can fit 2.5 (2 trucks and a 4wheeler or two) vehicles on there comfortably. I am sure if we used the dovetail better MAYBE we would be able to get three on there. About a month ago we fit our 55HP John Deere on there with six foot brushhog hanging off the back and a front end loader on the front with bucket, and the ugly 40 and we had room to spare.

Anyways here she is being pulled by Dad's new truck he got last week...

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/starranchjoker/The%20Turd/IMG_0092.jpg

[bcolman]

what is this chain attached to? it doesnt look to safe to me

[DRAGOONRANCH]

you can fit 3 small rigs, but you will have to be real careful with the ramps in the back and may have to have one turned backwards with the stinger out back (plus it will take a small amount of weigt off of the tounge).

Oh, and I agree with Brian, that chain looks suppah!

[DRAGOONRANCH]

I see your pops has the smarts to get a 'real truck' with 'real resale value'. :D

[FJAggie07]

what is this chain attached to? it doesnt look to safe to me

That Strap? Oh I wouldn't worry about that little strap...

[TexTJ209]

I see your pops has the smarts to get a 'real truck' with 'real resale value'. :D

Based on my experiences with the new body style Chevy trucks...just be glad they have a warranty. ;)

[FJAggie07]

I see your pops has the smarts to get a 'real truck' with 'real resale value'. :D

***!

[jerryg79]

Based on my experiences with the new body style Chevy trucks...just be glad they have a warranty. ;)

iaye dios mio, imposible'! iJesus conduce un duramax!

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Based on my experiences with the new body style Chevy trucks...just be glad they have a warranty. ;)

Company trucks?

[TexTJ209]

Company trucks?

Family trucks. His IS a Duramax, whereas our two were gas(5.3 and 6.0), so hopefully his should be nice and reliable.


In less than 15,000 miles...I've gotten a new steering wheel, door speaker, and transmission tailshaft(not to mention the ****ty shifting that they say is normal, squealing brakes which are also "normal", and it taking 3 different dealerships to reprogram my rear TPMS sensors so I didn't have to run 80 psi in the rear all the time or get a warning light, but that's not the truck or GM's fault). My Dad's needed a new computer at 700 miles(took the dealership a month and several calls to GM to figure out wtf was wrong).


Damn shame, as I really like the looks of the HD Silverados..

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Damn, I hate to hear that. I am always so impressed with mine. The only thing I really don't like is the gawdam roaring fan when the engine starts getting warm. I will have to figure out a fix for that at some point in time. It doesn't bother me really, but it is kind of embarassing when you are braging on the truck while making a good pull and it starts doing that and the passangers are like 'WTF!'. I know your feelings though, we had a 93 excab lb that had lots of troubles. The best thing grandad did was to trade it in (used the lemon law) to get the 94 6.5 turbo! :D

[uglyota]

I saw a c4500 the other day and was wondering why hotshots (and ED) tend to prefer built-up 3500s? Is it for the 4x4?

[DRAGOONRANCH]

I still need something to run around the ranch with plus be semi-economical as a grocery getter ( :laughing: ), and the price tag for a 4500 w/ the same options as mine is a good bit more I believe. They usually have lower gears also and most hotshots don't need the extra gearing or towing capacity. Things may change with that if they start hitting them for not having a cdl more often.

and besides, who needs a 4500 when you have a pete rusting away in the pasture. :D


:(

[uglyota]

Oh I didn't realize they cost so much more. Shoulda figured as much, considering half the ones I see have trailers with matching custom paintjobs :D

[AggieTJ2007]

If only your truck could pull that trailer.

Oh and sell your pops your winch and mount it on the front of the trailer

[uglyota]

Finally got through the whole stupid process and should have a title coming to me by mail in a couple of weeks.
Process included:
Vin verification at an inspection station $15
Records search using VIN verification (which showed that there was no title on record for the trailer) $2.20
Certified weight slip (which sucked because the scale certification was only good over 1900lbs so I had to sign a statement of fact saying that the 1700 lb figure on the slip was the trailer and the 6000 lb figure was my tahoe sitting on the front pad so the stupid machine would print out the weights. So my trailer weighs 1700lbs) $10
Appraisal by a dealer for <$500, luckily the guy was cool and appraised it at $490 $10
Statement of fact that said trailer was roadworthy, never titled, not stolen, etc etc etc.
Pay taxes, title, etc $45
All in all a royal pain in the ass to get a title for my trailer so I can sell it and not get screwed because I only have a bill of sale to show ownership.

[uglyota]

Is this trailer as easy to build as it looks? Ryan any idea what Kopecki Welding would charge to build something like this out of channel, on 5600 lb axles, just wide and long enough to haul whatever I might want to haul on it (ie longbed crewcab fullsize parts truck), with a title?

edit: Think I'm going about this the wrong way. 99% of my hauling would be the uglytruck and building materials (and hopefully a couple of snowmachines this winter), and the reason I wanna get rid of mine is so I can get it in the backyard. Maybe what I need is one with 12' treads, just barely long enough for uglytruck...

[Sharpe]

Jesus that looks like a janky POS...

[uglyota]

The rig or trailer? That rig has apparently nearly killed people driving on the street on multiple occasions. The owner swears she's good to go now though.

The trailer is exactly what I want (or want to build). 4ft between the treads so you could throw down 2 sheets of plywood and have a flatbed, stake pockets around the outside so you could have removable sides...

[Sharpe]

The material used to make the trailer looks way too small and like it would bend with any significant load on it.

[Eckert]

trailer home axles?

its also way too tall.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

It looks to have some sort of sub-frame under it. I can't tell if it's channel or just angle iron. It would be nice and light at least.

[uglyota]

looks to me like it's made of exactly the same stuff as mine, though mine has rails, which should add strength, but mine's never flinched with some pretty heavy ass shiat on it.
Looks like mobile home axles but he says it's got brakes. Didn't think mobile home axles had brakes?
I don't know how you expect to get a trailer like that any lower. It appears to already be sprungunder or torsion axles...the deck is practically sitting on the axle centerline

[uglyota]

gawd this seems like a killer deal on a GN
http://denver.craigslist.org/rvs/1315972943.html

[tigweld]

damn u pick some haggard lookin' trailers

[uglyota]

You think I pick some nasty looking trailers just wait'll you see the uglytruck!

[eight]

gawd this seems like a killer deal on a GN
http://denver.craigslist.org/rvs/1315972943.html

No, that's not a killer deal.

[JB]

It has been a couple years now, but can't a new 16' wood deck trailer be had for $1200? Or is that about $1100 more than we are trying to spend here?

[Seth]

Hippie - I still think you should arrange your gate/fence differently. You now have a titaled trailer, (I would have just sold it cash) and you just said how it has never given you any problems.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

titled

I love you man!

[85cj7]

It has been a couple years now, but can't a new 16' wood deck trailer be had for $1200? Or is that about $1100 more than we are trying to spend here?

This is what I want. . . http://collegestation.craigslist.org/cto/1313855883.html

[AggieTJ2007]

this is what I want
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/40-Ft-Enclosed-Gooseneck-Trailer_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14 QQhashZitem563444a16eQQitemZ370244100462QQptZMotor sQ5fTrailers

But I have to wait untill after the first of the year so that I can write it off as moving expenses

[davido]

Is this trailer as easy to build as it looks?

Not sure. But it's definitely as death defying as it looks.




damn u pick some haggard lookin' trailers

Have you seen what he used when we were in CO?




This is what I want. . . http://collegestation.craigslist.org/cto/1313855883.html

This posting has been deleted by its author.
(The title on the listings page will be removed in just a few minutes.)

Me too! :flipoff2:


Eric, I think JBrown is on to something. Just save some $$ and get one good one instead of getting bled to death (from the wrongful death lawsuits) with crappy ones.

[uglyota]

[Joe Dirt] That look like a piece of crap to you!? :D

http://tamor.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5440&stc=1&d=1109112137
http://tamor.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5441&stc=1&d=1109112137
http://tamor.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5442&stc=1&d=1109112137

the idea is a lightweight versatile trailer. I don't really ever plan on having a bad dood tow rig like a lot of you guys that tow a lot do.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

I don't like those ridges on the tread plate. Seems it would be hard to get traction on there if the tires were any kind of wet or muddy. I do like the trailer though. Nice and light. Something I will be taking into consideration when I get my next trailer or when I build the bed on the pete.

[tigweld]

the twisted customs chassis or the trailer ?

[uglyota]

well I like both but was referring to the trailer (which was built by twisted as well)

[FJAggie07]

Here you go hippie... :flipoff2:

http://dallas.craigslist.org/mdf/for/1318150274.html

[davido]

Isn't a regular utility trailer is the definition of lightweight and versatile. That one is specifically for vehicles. Why not just fix the one you have? Paint. Tires. Axles if needed.

[bcolman]

Isn't a regular utility trailer is the definition of lightweight and versatile. That one is specifically for vehicles. Why not just fix the one you have? Paint. Tires. Axles if needed.

and maybe some grease for the bearings :flipoff2:

[85cj7]

http://www.texas4x4.org/showthread.php?t=28604

[uglyota]

wow that seems like a pretty good deal.

[Shaggy]

I was looking at trailers the other day ago and was wondering what you two rig guys had. I would need 28' - 32'. is anyone running dual tires or are singles beef enough? what are some better brands? how well do fullwidth axles fit on low boys? I know I had to take my spacers off to fit on our 20'. I want something I can just drive up on and strap down

[redcagepatrol]

I was looking at trailers the other day ago and was wondering what you two rig guys had. I would need 28' - 32'. is anyone running dual tires or are singles beef enough? what are some better brands? how well do fullwidth axles fit on low boys? I know I had to take my spacers off to fit on our 20'. I want something I can just drive up on and strap down

30', single, dual axle (7Kea)

A fullsize will fit between the fenders.

[bcolman]

A fullsize will fit between the fenders.

barely, atleast for me i was touching one fender and about a quarter inch form the other for the colorado trip on scott and lyndas trailer

[redcagepatrol]

you have big tires...

[bcolman]

they are 40's, the same size as lyndas, right?

[redcagepatrol]

Her axles are narrowed...

[JB]

Doesn't your truck need DRW in order for you trailer to have DRWs? Legally?

[AggieTJ2007]

don't think so should look into that

[redcagepatrol]

Doesn't your truck need DRW in order for you trailer to have DRWs? Legally?

there are tons of threads on this but basically, almost all trailers that have dual tires require a different driver licence and can't legally be pulled by any one ton truck.

it all depends on the rating of the truck (from the door) and the rating that is stamped on the nameplate of the trailer.

I am just barely legal with my truck / trailer combo.

[JB]

I see a buttload of 1 ton duallies on the daily pulling DRW trailers around Houston.

[Seth]

this doosh at a job i am working on has a new dmax and pulls a tandem dually. he also has his tx dot number on his door, I have noticed this more and more.

[redcagepatrol]

I see a buttload of 1 ton duallies on the daily pulling DRW trailers around Houston.

yep - and you will see that 95% of them have a TXDOT number on the truck.

[bburris]

this doosh at a job i am working on has a new dmax and pulls a tandem dually. he also has his tx dot number on his door, I have noticed this more and more.

I think it's because DPS has been cracking down a lot harder on CDL drivers.

[BroncoJo]

According to super-trucker tyler any truck can pull a DRW trailer for as long as the gross weight stays under 26,000 lbs and less than 102 inches wide.?:confused:

[AggieTJ2007]

thats a start to saying out of trouble

[eight]

Super-trucker Tyler is right. And tandem dual trailers are rated at 20K standard. For hauling 2 rigs, get a trailer like Scott's.

[StevenAg03]

I was looking at trailers the other day ago and was wondering what you two rig guys had. I would need 28' - 32'. is anyone running dual tires or are singles beef enough? what are some better brands? how well do fullwidth axles fit on low boys? I know I had to take my spacers off to fit on our 20'. I want something I can just drive up on and strap down

the trailer below is a 25' with 5' dovetail. it is way overkill for what you are looking at, but it gives you an idea of length requirement. the deer stand on the front is just over 8' long...

http://www.texasoffroad.net/albums/lonestar/album701/P1000113_001.jpg

trailer weighed in at just over 7500 empty. dont remeber the weight rating, but they normally use it for hauling a huge boring rig... in case you cant tell, it has dual tandems...

[eight]

I hauled 2 rigs on Burbach's trailer a couple times. It's a 20' + 5' tail without fold up ramps. CJ7 and YJ once, CJ8 and CJ5 another time. It's a tight fit.

[AggieTJ2007]

i think that 34 ft like eds it perfect for 2 rigs because if you need you can put to fat ass foolsizes on there

[DRAGOONRANCH]

there are tons of threads on this but basically, almost all trailers that have dual tires require a different driver licence and can't legally be pulled by any one ton truck.

it all depends on the rating of the truck (from the door) and the rating that is stamped on the nameplate of the trailer.

I am just barely legal with my truck / trailer combo.

They don't care what is on your door in the truck or the nameplate of the trailer, they will look at the registration of the trailer. You can 'derate' the trailer pretty easy. You will run into problems if you end up over on the weight though. (I am not saying that the listed ratings have no meaning, just that the DPS is going to look at what you have it registered at).


A 30-34' single wheel, double axle trailer is what you need. Mine is way overkill for hauling even two fullsizes, weight wise. I bought it to be able to haul tractors, hay and other things that may be a bit more weight intensive though. Just remember, when figuring out how long of a trailer you need, it's no problem if you have left over deck space, but when you are even 6"s short of having enough you are screwed.

[DRAGOONRANCH]

Oh, and 102" wide is good too. Gives you just that little bit of extra deck space if you ever need it.

[Graystroke]

I think you can get 8500lb + single wheel axles now. I'll have to ask my Dad. He bought a bad ass goose neck dump trailer and it has single tandems on it. the rims are really beefy looking and I think the tires are 10+ply. they are wet axles and both are braked. I think he said he is just under the 26k. w/ that trailer and most cops don't know it is rated that heavy b/c of the tandems instead of tandem duals or triple singles
I think it is rated for 18k.