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i may have been drinking a bit earlier today and missed the flipoff...... now seriously if you wana wheel this thing you should buy tomys axle and combine the best parts of both of yalls and be dollars and miles ahead... i even think he has new ball joints. thats 200 right there plus 500 shafts and etc..... think about it
Seth is picking it up tomorrow I think
yes.
Hell Yeah!!!! White Truck!Quote:
Originally Posted by Seth
Damn - here i was giong to surprise you!
I have removed the axle retainer nuts, and I flipped the brake drum around and tightened it to the axle but I can't pull it out. They are really in there. I even had my roommate try, and he is much stronger than I am haha. How do I get the damn rear axle shafts out?
Put a chain on a stud, pit a lug nut on it, connect the other side to a tire and throw it.
fire hydrant works better
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Originally Posted by TdmayfieldIV
poor man's slide hammer
So is a 12 year old girl so I would find an adult and have them give it a try.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Pocket
You laugh but he learned that at Dexter...Quote:
Originally Posted by JB
I think I'll just go rent a slide hammer.
And my roommate is a pretty strong guy... Saw him lift a fridge by himself when we were moving in haha
you realize these dont count right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Pocket
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nice.
HP, a slide hammer may not be enough sometimes, as dumb as tummy may sound on this one he is actually right. Just take the tire and wheel and put a chain through it then atach the other end to the shaft with a lugnut and roll the bitch hard, away from the truck, works everytime.
Get a chain long enough that you can roll it a good 5-10 ft.
What are you trying to fix?
If there is something majorly wrong internally I'd go buy another $100-150 9".
He doesn't know what is wrong with it right now. He thinks the gears are eaten. So he is trying to get the third out to take a look at it. He said that it won't go forward or reverse and when he tries to make it go it makes a gear eating sound.
Frick is right. Go get another entire 9" from a yard. Any will do as long as the gearing is right and it is the same spline count (I'm not sure if broncos were 28 or 31, I thought pass. cars were 28 and trucks 31 spline) and just swap out the third. That is, if the shaft bearings/brakes are still in good shape. They are $60 at pick-n-pulls all day long.
The driveshaft is turning right (the t-case is working, guess it's a 205, so that would be a long shot)Quote:
Originally Posted by 85cj7
I'm betting the third member broke around the tiny pinion bearing, which is allowing the pinion to disengage from the ring gear.
Have you taken the driveshaft off and spun the axle forward and back a couple revolutions while it was on jackstands to make sure the rear end is in fact making the noise? Just trying to make sure you dont waste time chasing bigfoot.
Lots of replies... Thanks for the help.
To clarify Blankenship, It wouldn't go forward, but I could still use reverse just fine. You are correct, it's a 31 spline. From what I've read, Ford put the 28spline axles in cars and early broncos. The 31 splines were found in 70's model trucks, Torinos, and a few HiPo Stangs.
Anyway,
Rented the slide hammer at Ho'reillys, and got the shafts out... Not pleased with what I found. Here are some pics.
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It looks as though my driver's side shaft doesn't have a bearing on it. I looked through the axle housing, and it looks like something broke off in there very close to the third member. (see pics) The pic of the shaft with the bearing is my passenger side shaft which looks fine.
Any thoughts as to what may have happened, and why is there no bearing on my axle? I'm guessing the bearing grenaded and is what is stuck inside the axle housing. Going to do some homework for a while, then I'll probably go and pull the third.
So the axle bearing goes but no forward motion??
It would go forward in granny gear, but occassionally it would catch itself and start doing the gear grind and it wouldnt go forward anymore. I didn't really screw with it too much.
I have 2 sets of shafts and a 3rd member with 4:10's if you need them.
the shaft bearing is fine. the race is in the end of the tube. what you see in the tube is probably a carrier bearing race. get a new 3rd. yours is probably ****ed more than its worth fixing.
and you probably wont find a cheap 9 at a local junkyard anymore.
How can I make the carrier stronger when I go to replace it?
it probably wasn't set up correctly. just get another 3rd. you should have 3.50s. aftermarket upgraydds aren't going to be as cheap as you like.
I NEVER had any problems whatsoever with my 9" until I put a mini spool in it. I remember hopping on a rock for a couple of minutes trying to get somewhere when I first started wheeling. Looking back it should have broken but it never gave up.
There is a reason that drag racers and circle track drivers use these axles more than any other, they're strong out of the box. They're one of the best half ton axles ever made bar none.
The reason yours broke is probably water mixed with the gear oil. The gears rust and are weakened, along with all of the bearings.
30 years of neglect lead to your axle grenading, along with your jackassery:flipoff2:
If you want to drop the coin you can get a nodular third member but really, for your application, the stock one is good enough if you take care of it.
http://www.justrearends.com/ProductD...0-e76d6b25ecdf
You can have my whole rear axle and two sets of spare shafts for $80. All you have to do is put the spider gears back in and it's good to go.
pull the third and take a look.
Yeah, just pull the third and see whats wrong, im sure its just 30 yrs off neglect showing its face.
Im serious complete truck 9"'s go for $100-200 all day long on Houston craigslist. Pull one of those slap it in and keep driving. There is no reason to upgrade a factory nine with 35's and an M block for a crusier/light off-road use. If you end up getting a new axle get one from a '76 and later.
If its just the shaft bearing replace it and go on down the road.
I've got the shafts out, and I took off all 10 bolts, but this thing will not budge, even tried some pb lube and nothing. Suggestions for popping the 3rd off?
There should a section of the third that has a small cut away so that you can get a chisel or screw driver in between the two mating surfaces. If I remember right it is on the driver side of the third by the tube. Just lots of taping with a hammer and chiseling with multiple ones from different angles to force the third up and off the studs.
Been trying to get this thing off for over an hour. I will pay someone to come and get this thing out. I am giving up.
edit: blankenship, couldn't find what you were talking about.
Don't be a bitch. Man the **** up and hit it harder until it comes off.
it's already broken, get a bigger hammer
i like where this is going :)
get your ass in the gym. after awhile you'll be able to get it out. it doesn't just pop out.
Ok so I have the third out, and it looks like it just needs to be replaced. bits and pieces are broken off of it, and it does not look very bueno. My options at this point are search for a new shiny junkyard 9 to pull the carrier from. What should I be looking for? My axle shafts need some new seals, so I'll probably go ahead and do bearings while I have them off.
Now, that being said, if I can find a deal for a 10.25 while I'm searching for said 9" I'm considering swapping that into place. Since I've already broken one 9" how long will it be til I break another? Just wanting to do it all right the first time.
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Someone with some knowledge come and school me on what's broken with my carrier before I make a decision please...
edit: decided to stay away from the sterling for now, if I want to make alto and still have some money in my pocket, I'm just going to have to find a 9" that supports 31 spline shafts at a junkyard and swap my gears into it. This is my cheapest fix that I can get done in time for alto.... that being said, what are some junkyards in houston/ san antonio/ dallas, that I can call that might have one. How much am I looking to pay?
9" have not been easy to find at junkyards for a while. They get scooped up for every auto project. I say 10.25
So how'd you finally get it out?