If I had a SFA I would do the same. You could have bought a locker for that price though.
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If I had a SFA I would do the same. You could have bought a locker for that price though.
if a frog had a glass ass he'd only hop once, but you don't have a solid axle yet, and i'm probably goin to drop in a lock right soon after the steering **** gets done, i'll just have to see
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I know I'm coming into this a little late, but:
If this is for a trail only or trail 95% of the time rig I would recommend full hydro as Doug has suggested.
I would not get a double ended ram though, I would get two rams working together. I've heard this is cheaper, AND more reliable.
My steering is cool going right while the ram is pushing, but while pulling it's a little rough. That's why I would suggest getting a set-up that pushes in both directions.
As for my own set-up I don't think it was the reason the knuckle broke, and it was the actual knuckle that broke. The reason I don't think the ram was at fault was because of how the crack was on the inside of the knuckle.
I wouldn't do full hydro on anything you plan on driving above 40mph. It gets really sensitive. You'll also have to find a "Special" inspection station that won't notice it.
Now if you are set on ram-assist, and still want to move your axle forward can you not just get a hi-steer arm where you can attach the draglink behind the axle? I know people put the tie-rod behind the axle, so why not just run the tie-rod in front and the draglink behind it?
Hal
what are the advantages of this over an AGR steering box? Just curious b.c. Dan Reed got an AGR and he said after installed he could turn his wheel with one finger. they're about the same cost evidently and dont come with a bunch of "kustom" fab work needed to install.
Hal, the reason for no drag link behind the axle if you turn the wheel to the left, then it'll turn the vehicle right, draw it out on a piece of paper, it'll make more sense
Austin, the AGR rock ram set ups is about 3x's as much, and if he's just talkin about the AGR gear box and pump, then it isn't goin to help me in movin the axle forward 2"
The same price? A full AGR "Rock Ram" setup will set you back just under $1000. The "Redneck Ram", WTOR's equivalent, comes in at half that.
yea I figured there was a simple reason no one was doing it... oh well I tried to make the decision simpler... If only you could point the pitman arm out instead of in...Quote:
Originally posted by aggielr
Hal, the reason for no drag link behind the axle if you turn the wheel to the left, then it'll turn the vehicle right, draw it out on a piece of paper, it'll make more sense
I've installed both an AGR box and their Super pump or whatever it's called. I can't turn my tires worth a damn off-road, and have broken the box off the frame twice. It is NOTHING compared to full asist, and honestly from my own experience and from what I've heard I will never buy another thing from AGR.Quote:
Originally posted by BigRedFord04
what are the advantages of this over an AGR steering box? Just curious b.c. Dan Reed got an AGR and he said after installed he could turn his wheel with one finger. they're about the same cost evidently and dont come with a bunch of "kustom" fab work needed to install.
Hal
you wont buy from them because it broke off the frame? whose fault is that?Quote:
Originally posted by Krawler68
I've installed both an AGR box and their Super pump or whatever it's called. I can't turn my tires worth a damn off-road, and have broken the box off the frame twice. It is NOTHING compared to full asist, and honestly from my own experience and from what I've heard I will never buy another thing from AGR.
Hal
I've had nothing but good experience with AGR. I've only dealt with Jeff and he's definately a wheeler, not just a salesman.
well one option would be to move the gear box back a few inches, put the pitman arm facing front, put drag link behind the axle, but that sounds like a hella lotta work
i'm probably just goin to use hi-steer arms w/ the ram-assist, see how that works out, if it sucks, then i'll go full hydro, but it should be ok as i'm only movin it 1 or 2 inches, or may just leave it where it is, we'll see when i start measure ****
Dan did have to send back his 1st pump b.c. it was leaking @ the input shaft :rolleyes: It only ran him like $400 if i do recall correctly.
did Dan get the rock ram set up, or just an agr pump and gear box?
just the pump and gear box i believe
i'm goin to get the ram (which is what i want) cause cj steering set ups pretty much suck in thier stock form, ****ty gear box mounting, and the total for a gear box rebuild, pump rebuild, ram and lines is $450
actually I'm still running the stock pump. i just bought the new gearbox. got it for about $370. havent had the chance to use it off road yet. but it a helluve lot easier to turn my truck than it is to turn my parents cars. its great so far. but as Austin said, i did have to replace the first one. for free of course. fluid was pouring out at the pitman arm shaft seal or whatever that is actually called. other than that, it is great so far.