w56tranny and toyota t-case

Printable View

Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page

10-10-2003, 02:38 PM
BigRedFord04

i burned up a Centerforce clutch in my truck and will never put one back in. the extra holding power actually made the problem worse when the clutch went out b.c. it held metal to metal on the disc and pressure plate....and because it still drove it took me a while to figure out what the hell the problem was. when i finally got the clutch out i ended up having to replace the flywheel too....not cheap. since then i've burned up 2 LUK clutches. one wasnt really "burned up" per say...but it had a stick stuck in the pressure plate and bent the forks. the other i just replaced b.c. it was lifetime warranty and i was putting a 300lb transmission in that i really didnt want to take out if the clutch went out in a month.

the "stick" incident
http://www.texasoffroad.net/albums/l...tuck.sized.jpg
dan reed towed me home and i replaced the clutch the next day.
10-10-2003, 02:40 PM
Violentv8toy

Quote:

Originally posted by BigRedFord04
i burned up a Centerforce clutch in my truck and will never put one back in. the extra holding power actually made the problem worse when the clutch went out b.c. it held metal to metal on the disc and pressure plate....and because it still drove it took me a while to figure out what the hell the problem was. when i finally got the clutch out i ended up having to replace the flywheel too....not cheap. since then i've burned up 2 LUK clutches. one wasnt really "burned up" per say...but it had a stick stuck in the pressure plate and bent the forks. the other i just replaced b.c. it was lifetime warranty and i was putting a 300lb transmission in that i really didnt want to take out if the clutch went out in a month.

the "stick" incident
http://www.texasoffroad.net/albums/l...tuck.sized.jpg
dan reed towed me home and i replaced the clutch the next day.

Is that back when you ran 3.54s and 37s?

323 is mine.
10-10-2003, 02:43 PM
BigRedFord04

no, that was with a brand new gearset of 4.88s F/R and brand new 37"s. it wasnt the clutch's fault nor due to any kind of extra strain on the drivetrain. as i said, i found a STICK in the pressure plate, about as big around as my pinky.

i am currently running 3.54s in the rear and 4.88s in the front b.c. i dont have the money to regear the new rearend and w/ the ZF transmission and 5.72:1 1st gear i can drive just fine.
10-10-2003, 04:21 PM
Fredo

You know, I don't know about the Centerforce I and II's but the Dual friction is not a LUK clutch. I've heard many people bash Centerforce in the offroading world and in the Hot Rod world, but you know what, other than a slight bit of clutch chatter, mine has been a mean bitch from day one. Not only has it put up with almost three years of gear banging from a 6spd, it's put up with about 415ftlbs at the flywheel waiting to punish it for engaging. Not only that, but for the past few months, I've been driving it with 2.73 gears in the ass due to my 4.10 geared 10bolt giving way(imagine that). Talk about having to ride the clutch to get moving. It still grips in every gear at full throttle without an issue.

So while I can't vouch for the strength of a CI or II, I know that Centerforce aren't bad clutches. So take what other people say about them with a grain of salt until you've given them a chance.
10-10-2003, 07:08 PM
StevenAg03

Quote:

Originally posted by Doug Krebs

Seems like most people that have centerforce hate them offroad. It's either on or off...

i am pretty sure that scott was running a centerforce clutch in his original toyota(may be using one now)....i had to move it one time bak when we all lived on dexter...and it was definatly on or off...when i asked him about it he said thats what he liked cause it was more predictable...maybe someone can talk to him...

EDIT: i just realized as i was finishing this post, i dont really know why we are arguing over which clutch is good/bad....is someone even wanting to buy a new clutch or what?

EDIT EDIT:ok i see now...the new guy is trying to sell one...
10-11-2003, 05:19 PM
Violentv8toy

Yeah. New guy selling these.

I've got a line on some cheap wheels on pirate, and if i get them i'll sell the tranny/t-case/shaft and all that other stuff for 250 cash. I can't go lower cause i'm poor enough as it is and i'm a hella lot poorer than yall think.

Does anyone know a place that can alter steel wheels. I need to change some 3.5 bs wheels to 2ers.

Where did you say that you got your wheels made austin?
10-11-2003, 06:28 PM
CRaSHnBuRN

2 inch backspacing? Do you really need that much?

Try some spacers
10-11-2003, 06:38 PM
Violentv8toy

For 8s, yeah i think so. ALot of people have problems with big tires rubbing springs on my size 44.

I figure 38s would rub.

I can wheel it with 3.5" until i can afford diff ones.
10-11-2003, 07:29 PM
CRaSHnBuRN

What size 38s we talking about? Yeah, outboarding those springs for you d44 could cause problems. Is it a waggy 44? one thing to think about is negative returns. Alot of offset and 38's is gonna be hard on the balljoints as well as making steering harder.
10-12-2003, 03:22 PM
BigRedFord04

Quote:

Originally posted by Violentv8toy
Where did you say that you got your wheels made austin?

i bought mine from a guy who had 'em kustom made....i dont know where he got 'em. i talked to one company from Chicago i think that said they'd make any custom wheel for ~$100/each and that included shipping.
10-12-2003, 03:51 PM
Violentv8toy

*whistle* 100 bux a wheel.

38x13x16s

Waggy 44 yeah. D44 Balljoints suck eitherway. They cant be as bad as toyota IFS wheelbearings. I welcome the day when all i need to do is change balljoints. After you swap drivetrain and axles and about everything in between its not all that bad.:cheers:
10-12-2003, 03:59 PM
CRaSHnBuRN

With those tires, backspacing really doesn't matter that much, 3.5-2.5 should be more than adequate. I figured you were trying to run the fat ass 38.5s. They're not going to be wide enough to get into your springs. Remember, those tires are just a little bigger than a 36x12.5 tsl.
10-12-2003, 04:02 PM
Violentv8toy

I dunno. I know a couple of people who say their 37" mt/rs rub on their waggy with 3.5" bs. Of course i think the 37s are fatter than the tires i've got...so i dont know.
10-12-2003, 04:13 PM
CRaSHnBuRN

oh, here is some info you may want

15x8, 2in backspacing, 6 lug, black, #515883R2 at 4wheelparts, should be 40 bucks or so
10-12-2003, 04:31 PM
Violentv8toy

39.99 But they're 2.5, they just sell em as 2s.

But i've got 16s.
10-12-2003, 04:41 PM
CRaSHnBuRN

thats right, you have those screwy 16's. Well I tried. Call up scott at rockstomper, he's pretty good at getting stuff like that

Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page