gonna do a turbo or anything like that?
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gonna do a turbo or anything like that?
No there's no nut on the back, it has 4 nuts holding it on the front. Will, do you think I would put a $1000+ turbo kit on a free engine? Too much skrilla for this killa.
i dunno man, you do alot of stuff that i wouldnt think you'd do. anythings a possability with robert.
what's the problem with the fan? You can't get the 4 bolts off? You can't keep it in place while you turn them? Or is it a 1" dia fine thread post like mine and you just can't break it? would it help to drill a hole through the water pump and put a screwdriver through it?
You could buy a kit, or you can build a setup yourself for about half that. In any case, enjoy the non turbo power.Quote:
Originally Posted by afroman006
On chevy fans, they have four studs around the outside holding the fan onto the waterpump and pulley. On every gas engine fan I've ever seen, they have slots running from the holes to the outside of the fan mounting flange, I dont know why but they do. No, this diesel fan does not have the slots, it is just has holes. Also, chevy fans have a little nipple-stud thing in the middle of the pulley, and I'm guessing that is what the fan is stuck on, but I cant think of any way to get it off. I'm going to mess with it today and will get some pics and report back.
Oliver, if I ever get around to building a fresh engine for this thing, and decide to stick with a 6.2, I'll probably try to piece a turbo kit together, but we'll see. Do you know of any special method to get 6.2 fans off?
Cant you just take off the water pump? Or were you planning on using that nasty one?
I could. Taking thw water pump off a 6.2 is a huge PITA though, it is a plate that covers most of the front of the engine. I might have to anyway though, so we'll see.
so why can't you take the nuts off the studs and hit it with a hammer?
or rig up a slide-hammer to yank it off?
my chevy fan is screwed onto the big fine-threaded post I mentioned earlier
it should just be held on with the little nipple... the 7.3 took a few GOOD wacks with the hammer to come off... i dont see why it be too much different
the fan on my blazer just has the 4 bolts, no tricks...
You might be having difficulty based on the pulleys. All hummers and some cucvs got a funky set of pulleys with an extra groove. They're a little more difficult to take apart, but I've never had one get stuck. I've pulled fans off all of our diesels - new style, old style, whatever - and have never had a problem with it being stuck, so my advice is somewhat general.Quote:
Originally Posted by afroman006
1) Make doubley sure that all four nuts are completely removed.
2) Check for corrosion that may be holding the fan clutch to the water pump.
3) Locate hammer and cold chisel.
4) GENTLY work your way around the flange to free it from the hub.
5) Drink a beer.
6) Repeat as needed.
For reference, this is what I have on my hummer 6.2L:
http://www.oliverdiesel.com/images/h...installed3.jpg
PS: Put on a turbo. The GMx IHI turbos are on ebay for cheap, and you'll never regret it.
Got the fan off today. It took a little dubya-de-fortay and a ****load of brutality with the three pound persuasive device. Oliver, I suppose I may break down and turbo this ***** some day, but for now its not in the budget. Today I also cut the hole in the floor for the shifter, took all the bolts for the bed out (had to grind 5 out of 8 off) and took the saddle tanks out. I need to get some assistance over there to lift the bed off the frame.
This damn tranny crossmember is taking a long time to build. This is what I have at this point. The first two are the basic shape, and the third is a close up of my occasional kickass welding. I am going to add another tube for the actual mount then build a skidplate for the 205 with 1" .188 wall tube and 1/4" plate.
Shes 15 buttholes so back off for now. Anyway here's the current progress pics. I got the tranny crossmember finished and bolted in place. I like the way it turned out but time will tell if I can tolerate how low it hangs. The fourth pic is of the tranny breather that I had to bootyfab because I accidentaly broke the normal one off flush with housing. It is a piece of hard brakeline with a 90 degree bend jb welded flat against the breather hole. The last is my rear suspension mocked up with weight on it.
Couple more of the rear.
Nice work on the crossmember, that's pretty sweet :gigem:
are you plannign on running a full bed on that thing? if not why dont you move the springs forward to shorten the wheelbase a bit?
No, I wont be running the bed. I positioned the rear axle so that I would not have to modify my High Angle CV driveshaft from the suburban (58" long). If it really bug the hell out of me, I might go changin it up later, but we'll see. The rear axle is about 1' forward of "stock" position on the frame. That coupled with the front axle moved forward 4" should make for about a burban sized wheelbase. (~130") I know this is long but I plan on running the biggest tires I can afford later so who knows what could happen.
thats one damn long truck, are you going to do anything to the sides so that you can pivot off of trees, rocks ect.. when it wont turn
i think hes cutting off 12 or 14" off of the frame, so that should help some
That crossmember is real nice playa. See your running the same rear spring hangers as me... hehe.
Actually wingnut, the rear hanger I'm running are off a 2wd, and the ones I sold you are off a 4x4. The 2wd are about 3-4" shorter, which work perfectly for me because I'm running the 3" longer shackles. Creighton, this one will be able to turn because I will be running crossover steering with hydro-assist added later. In any case, I'm keeping the doors to pivot off of for now (Frick style) and will have two bars over the door holes when I exo-cage it later on. The frame will be cut right behind the rear hanger, so about 12" off the back.
I got some work done today. I went ahead an measured the wheelbase, and it taped out at 127." Almost the same as the burban, but with about 2' less overhang in the rear. Today, I got finished welding and painted up the york bracket for the 6.2. I decided to ditch the second alternator idea and instead put the york in its place. I bootyfabbed the brackets out of a few piece of factory brackets I had laying around, and some other misc stuff, but I forgot to get pics. I will get it permanently mounted up tomorow and will get pics then. I also built the dual battery tray that will mount on the firewall. I hope the actual firewall will be able to hold the weight of two batteries, I know my trey will. I also painted my kustom fewl sell. I received my rear drive flange and e-brake from High Angle today so I'll get that and the rear driveshaft mounted tomorow hopefully. Here's pics.
looks good robert, but those bolts are gonna rip through the firewall unless you have some serious reinforcement on the back. And it's too long :D
have you tried clamping a piece of angle iron to the metal you're torching to use as a guide?
Screw straight cuts, the ragged edge is part of the vehicle's motif, kinda like, "Yah, thats right *****, I'm on the ragged edge...of falling apart..." Here's the york brackets pics.
One more.
This weekend prety much all I got done was mount the battery tray and build the steering box braces. The tray is attached to the firewall with 5 3/8" G5 bolts and 10 large sheetmetal screws. I put the batteries on and it seems to be fine so we'll see. The steering braces turned out badass! I'll get some better pics when I take them off to paint because they are deffinately worth taking lots of pictures. I stole the basic design from the offroad design brace that I had for the burban, but had to get creative because of the 2wd frame and crossmember.
Here are some crappy close ups of the braces. Also, the gas tank mount and I added a couple more leafs to the front spring packs and now it sits just right.
those braces look like they could be some abstract piece displayed at the local civic center
you must be joking
ive seen those somewhere before
I know. Maybe I can sell em for like $500 each on ebay, that would be badass. See my problem is I've gotten prety good at welding, but I am still lacking in the cutting torch and fitting departments, so most of my projects come out looking like the wavy brace. Oh well, they'll do the job and no one will ever see them.
dont try to free hand it so much. use your other arm to brace against. lay your left hand down on what you are cutting, then lay the torch across your left hand.
You can also take a piece of angle iron and lay it like an upside down v. then rest your hand lightly on the edge slide to help with long straight cuts.
Project is lookin good!
he already didn't like that idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by uglyota
Now replace that stock crossmember that you painted with some tube. It looks way out of place.
and start boxing in your frame :D
I do use the angle iron trick for longer cuts but the wavy bracket started out as a rectangle and i didnt cut it into the angled shape until I had the tubes welded on the end so I couldnt have used the angle iron. I thought about building a new crossmember, but decided not too because after I built the engine and tranny crossmember, I was crossmembered out. At this point, I'm gonna see how well the normal frame holds up and if there are issues, I'll box it.
The big day is getting so close I can taste it! The only major hurdle left is the brake system, and I am waiting on my linelock and proportioning valve to do it. Today, I got a bnuch of little stuff done. Got the fuel tank bracket mounted and the tank set in place. I got the fuel filter bracket, power distribution block and glow plug solenoid mounted on the firewall and the hydroboost system bolted on. Plumbed most of the fuel system, only thing left is fuel return line to the tank. I also put the steering brackets in for good. Tomorow I will be pickin up my cross over steering system so look for that excitement soon!
is this thing gonna have a bed? Got your tool/spare storage figured out yet? What's the cage gonna look like? Also, I only see one tank. Where's the veggie oil gonna go? :D
No bed. I was thinking a couple of ammo cans like yours for storage, but I need to find some big enough first. The cage is gonna look like an exo. No veggie oil, since its just a trail truck, I wont be driving it often enough to justify the trouble of the veggie. Plus I want to see all the ways you **** stuff up doing it before I try it. :flipoff2:
dude a trail truck is the ideal application of veggie. Just need a few gallons per trip (unlike everyday driving where you would have to track down several gallons a week), and instead of smelling like butthole like most diesels, your exhaust smells like french fries!
I think the ammo cans I have are as big as they get. Not cheap either, like $30 a piece. I think they're 30mm or something weird?