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I like my millermatic 175. It has the infinite controls on it. I was welding some rusted floor board and you can turn it down to low.
edit i was using the .023/.024 wire so that does help too. My welder also has stickers on it so I am sure that helps out as well.
Alright, well I've read some reviews on line and I think it'll work fine, I'll probably pick it up tomorrow.
Anyone dealt with any local electricians on wiring for 240?
Seriously the wiring isn't pretty simple. Do you have a drier near by or perhaps an electric water heater? I can help you out with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeepPhisherman
Isn't or is?Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug Krebs
Don't want my brother's house going the way of yalls austin crib....
The drier outlet is right on the other side of the wall I want to put it on, and the water heater is on the adjacent wall. I just didn't know if it was something that needed to be inspected or if it'll get my bro in trouble when we sell the place in two years.
Sorry it is pretty simple, I don't know whats wrong with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeepPhisherman
We have no idea why our house burnt down. It happened after we moved out. It's always kinda fun to joke about though.
Is the drier gas or electric? If it's electric we can just make an extension cord. If it's gas, we can just rob the outlet completly.
Seriously, to do it right it's 4 wires, 3 if you want to do it without a ground.
Yes and 2 of those wires are the same color.
The drier is electric. So we can just tap into that and run another outlet off of it?
I don't understand nor like electricity, so would there be any problems with running both the welder and the drier at the same time?
I'll pay for beer if you want to help out with it.
Also, do I need to get it inspected after it's installed?
cant run the at the same time as the circuit will not be heavy enough.
just make an extension cord and swap the pugs out when you need to weld. depending on how long you want the cord, it'll be around a hundred bucks. copper is expensive.
while we're on electricity, i just plugged in the iron and it makes the lights go dim in kopecki's trailer.
I think you're a little inspection happy, all you're doing is making a cord. Even if you were running wire, you're not putting on an addition just running some wire.
Ill do the wiring for ya, beer and food is considered payment
Is there a way to run it so that both can be used at the same time, besides running new wires all the way from the fuse box?
You can plug both the welder and the drier in at the same time. However, you can't run them both at the same time, as it would most likely blow the breaker.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeepPhisherman
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Originally Posted by JeepPhisherman
do you really do so much welding, or drying, for it to really matter?
where's the electrical panel? if it is in the garage and you have a spare breaker slot just add another breaker and add a junction box/outlet and some conduit and surface mount it on the wall. You can find stuff cheap if you look at loacal sales. I just scored a 42 breaker square D panel at the flea market for $35. They run around $200 new. This should take care of all my garage needs plus I will be set-up when I add a second floor garage apartment. A while back the local True Value was going out of business and my Dad bought all of his breakers for $2 a piece.
wow, shameless double plug, possibly triple! :flipoff2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Graystroke
garrett I'll sell you my lincoln 225 crackerjack box (with allpro and uglyfab stickers...better call it a 245 or 250) with a 40ft extension cord for $200. Can bring it up after thanksgiving
hmmm, i had already justified the expense in my head. damnit eric
damn! I'll sell you mine for that and it is a lot newer than his. plus mine is a nascar edition! I didn't think they were worth that much!Quote:
Originally Posted by uglyota
One went on ebay last night that supposedly has only 2 sticks run through it for $120 in corpus
Eric's probably got $80 in the cord.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeepPhisherman
Yep, forgot about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snatch Adams
Just trying to decide which way to go. Had my mind made up until Eric had to go and ruin things. I've been reading **** all day about arc v. mig and I still haven't made up my mind. Maybe yall can help...
Haven't done much welding in my life, only some ****ing around at home on an arc, and entc 181 or whatever it is where we did arc/mig/tig/spot welding. I thought I did a better job laying down a nice bead on the arc, but that was on some 1/4" plate with nice 45* bevels. Everything I've read said to start on mig, as that will be easier to learn the pricipals and get a better bead. But, I've also read some saying that you should start with an arc, which will make welding with a mig easy later on in life.
So, any suggestions? If you don't know, I'm picking one up to help with the SAS, so I'm not borrowing equipment all the time, so I'll be welding my inner c's first, spring perches, shock mounts, shackle hangers, frame plating, sliders, bumpers, bed cage eventually, tcase mounts, welding table, little projects around the house, etc.
I bought a mig, for what we do they just seem alot easier to me. No slag, don't have to switch rods, cold tip, etc... However, they are more expensive, you have to worry about gas once in a while, and the metal has to be reasonably clean.
Arc's are much cheaper and can do something's mig welders can't.
Edit: ask eric why he's selling his arc, probably getting a mig :flipoff2:
I'd go with a mig, and I'd have someone that knows what they are doing weld the inner c's back on with an arc and the right rods. The rest you'll be happy you have a mig.
you can do that w/ a stick. it would be harder. not look as pretty unless you been at it for a while. A stick is good for it's portabilty and ease of use in weird areas. for instance when I was working at the co-op we would pull the truck around the mill. ground the welder to one of the support legs. ride the elevator to the top. lower a rope and hoist the stinger back up over 100 ft sometimes and start welding 80-100 feet off the ground. you could be welding in all of 20 min. and be done w/ it.
A stick is a good field repair welder and good for heavy stuff. It takes a big and expensive MIG to weld 1/2" plate in a few passes.
there is nothing wrong w/ a stick. I prefer it for certain things. if your trying to kluge **** together then a stick works great. you can cut aluminum w/ it too. For a first welder it would do most of what you want and probably make better (stonger) ugly welds then the pretty ones you would make w/ a MIG.
Start-up wouldn't cost much and if you decide on a MIG later you can always get that and keep the inexpensive stick sitting in the corner for those rainy days.
Ask Flem about welders and rainy days!
Everything you've described that an arc is great for, is crap I've never welded. It just depends on what you're working on. for the hobbyist automotive guy, I think an arc is damn near useless compared to a Mig. Now St.John will tell you both are worthless, and TIG is the only way. It's just what you are used to.
mig is hard to use on a windy day if you don't have a garage to work in. Like jimmy said though, it's all personal preference.
Flux core! I hadn't used it much, worked badass on the wrought iron.
Alright Doug, looked around the house when I got home. No outlet anywhere for the water heater, I guess they planned it gas when building the house (obviously). And the breaker box has 8 open spots, but it's like literally on the other side of the house. I counted 48' down one wall, then 45' down the front of the house to get to the spot in the garage.
I'm thinking it might just be easier to go ahead and make an extension (25-40') and just plug it into the drier's outlet when I need to use it. If you're bored this weekend though, you can stop by, take a look, and have some cerveza fria.
Oh, and I got the hobart 180 with cart and whatnot on clearance for 587.63+tax at TSC. Ought to be put in the good deals section.
does sound like a good deal! An extension cord is the way to go. Easy to wire in, and you'll use it even when it is wired in properly, very handy.
Yea, I was trying to think of some way I could connect it through the wall though, so I don't have to leave the door open with a cord hanging out it when I'm welding. Don't think the door will close easily around that cable. Maybe a doggy door type thing panel in the wall? Any idears?
Drill hole in wall and place plug outside
Yea, I had thought about that, but I was trying to avoid having to buy an extra male and female end, some of dougs jewness rubbed off on me at HD today I guess.
Run a conduit up the wall in the laundry room and into the attic then run the cable over to where you want it in the garage, run the wire all the way through with as much extra as you want then put the ends on.
Oh yeah and dont get a cut in the cable and have the conduit become electrified like at karls house.
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Originally Posted by Snatch Adams
Garret I would suggest not welding the inner Cs on as your first project. There's a reason everybody's first project is a welding table...it's not a big deal if it fails. At the very least have someone else weld them on for you. I am glad I learned on a stick, though the decision was mostly based on cost. It was harder at first but I learned to recognize a strong weld and it made mig super easy when I finally got a chance to try it. You can also weld practically anything with a stick, I think Kopecki's welded wood once. The right rods are hard to find though.
sounds like a good deal on that welder, I'd buy 2 feet of heavy-ass wire and a female socket and punch a hole through the wall. Also get good gloves and a hood with a big lens and some flap disks for your grinder
Hopefully I can talk creighton or someone with a stick to weld up the c's for me. I think they would do better on the thick stuff, including that on my list was a typo.
And, the welder cam with the cart, regulator, hose, extra tips, spool of some kind of flux core, helmet, and gloves. Already have the harbor freight plus size pack of flap discs and grinding wheels :gigem:
Ill be in CS this weekend if ya want me to come by and check out your wiring situatuion
sure, I could use someone who's not scared of electricity to look at it.
Cell's in the signature, just give me a call, I'll probably be busy all day Sat.
your garage looks too clean
I swepty :flipoff2:
plus the po's used it as a game room