attached... looks killer.
dont think i would DD it though
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attached... looks killer.
dont think i would DD it though
with some milder tires I don't see it being that bad, especially since I don't drive a whole lot. Mostly I just drive to work and back, which is just a few miles round trip, and the occasional trips around town. So other than a few trips home, and the occasional 4x4 trip, it won't see alot of miles. The only thing is if the cops hassle me, but they let those monster truck superdutys get away with it, so I guess I'll see
I think you are crazy, DD and off-raod rig don't go in the same sentence, ask me how I know
I have no picture to look at. Jeep is wider than it supposed to be. No problems with the policias.
Hey chris have you thought about keeping the tire size in the 36-37 range. I know your plans are to run one tons, but that size tire range is much more friendly for a daily driver, for power since you only have the 4 banger, i just dont see it being a fun drive to clayton or somewhere with 40's. john brown has 36 on his one tons, beats the crap out of it, with no breakage on axles, i think this will save you money from having to upgrade the axles to keep them daily driver/wheeler status. good luck with selling the taco man.
37" krawlers
That Yota looks pretty good. Just don't overdo it and it'll be fine as a d.d., 37"s-38"s maybe a touch more. Going up and down hwy. 6 I alway's see superduty's and other stuff with that size or more traveling at highway speeds (granted they aren't "trail rigs"). You've already had rigs at opposite ends up the spectrum, now you just have to find the medium with this one.
Krawler's are great if you have the money, just don't expect to get alot of mileage out of them.
well they do if you dont have a sissy jeep :flipoff2:Quote:
I think you are crazy, DD and off-raod rig don't go in the same sentence, ask me how I know
how many times has your EB broke and not been driveable?
well, we will see how this thing works as a daily driver. As for the tires size thing, I haven't made up my mind either way yet. I think with anything smaller than 37s, the axles will become rock anchors. Right now, I'm leaning towards the 38x14.5 Toyo Open Country M/T
http://www.4wheelparts.com/4wp/image...untry_MT_b.jpg
price wise, they're one of the cheapest ones out there, plus from my research, they seem to wear very well and ride nice. The only problem, is its not available in a 17 inch wheel, only a 16 or 18.
Mongo like cookies! go iroks!
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I've thought about the 39.5 in IROKs, but I bet they wear really fast
i bet they do too
okay, lets step away from the tire and axle stuff for a while, and talk about some of the easier mods I want to do first.
To begin, like I said earlier, I would like to do a flat belly if possible. In order to make it easier, I think I'm going to do a small bodylift, like 1 inch or so. This will also make it easier to attach sliders and stuff.
As for my rocksliders, I'm going to build something like this
http://www.offroadsolutions.com/imag.../onground3.jpg
As for my bumpers, I have the rear designed in my mind, but I'm still trying to work something out on the front. Both the rear bumpers and sliders will be square tubing, so I don't know if I should stick with that for the front, or go round.
Slider's look like a relatively simple design, pretty straight forward. As for the front I'd assume that you'd want to incorporate D-ring mount's, maybe a couple of light tab's, and winch mount. I personally like the way some of the round tube bumper's look, square tube looks kinda Altoish I guess. Have you considered a wrap around tube rear bumper?
Here is something else that I'm trying to make a decision on. What do I do with the interior? I'm going to strip the carpet out, and replace the front seats with some nice suspension seats. I also plan on putting a good rollcage in as well. But what to do with the rear area? Do I leave the rear seat, and build the cage to protect it? Or ditch it, and replace it with a large storage area for tools and spares? I don't plan on really needing more than the 2 seats, and I could use as much room as I can get in the rear for a fullsize spare, tools, ice chests, and maybe a fuel cell (the stock tank location hangs down real low).
my idea for the rear bumper does wrap around and protects the sides
another question I have is this. What to do about the top. The stock hardtop is big and heavy, is kinda hard to see out of, and easily damaged. but without it, I have little protection from the weather. I've been trying to think of ways to get rid of it, but still keep the thing semi weather proof.
One option is some sort of full soft top. Those are nice (but expensive), and I can take them off when the weather is nice (much easier to store than the hard top).
Or another idea I had was to see if I could have a custom top built that basically closes up the back of the cab section, so the 4runner now looks like a truck. I think it would be simple to have a boat shop or someplace similar build. Plus it would be lightwieght, and easily removed and stored on the vehicle when I don't need it. Granted, it wouldn't protect the back seats, but I'm thinking of ditching them anyway. The only other thing two things would be how to keep water from coming in at the bottom, and what to do about where the rollcage needs to come through it. The water thing could be stopped with a small piece of angle iron, that would also be used as the bottom mounting point, but the rollcage thing still has me stumped. I'm wonder if it would be possible for the top to wrap around the tubes and effectively seal things up?
here is a quick drawing of what I mean about the custom top
http://tamor.us/members-rigs/albums/album225/top.jpg
one reason I like this idea is it allows me to mod the rear area to fit my needs better. For one, with this setup I could ditch the tailgate, and mount a fullsize spare flat in the bed, slightly hanging out the back. I could also notch the floor to run my rear shocks straight up, and I wouldn't have to worry about gas fumes if I moved the tank into the back
oh yeah, if I did it this way I would probaly bob the thing. Does any see this thing quickly turning into a trainwreck? :D But I figure its better to plan ahead so one mod doesn't get in the way of another and cost me more money
Those toyos are a great highway tire. My little brother wanted to put them on his new truck but they're not made in 20s. I don't think anybody's used them offroad yet so you would be unique in that. They look like they would do well.
Giving up the hardtop gives up your security, people will steal whatever you leave in there.
Go with square tube on the front. Do some fancy notching and bending to make it match.
I plan on making everything as secure as possible anyway, just to keep people from messing with it. While the toyos haven't been used widely offroad yet, its quickly gaining a rep as being one of the best on and off road tires on the market. I hear they do well on all kinds of terrain, including mud and sand, and wear like rocks, yet are very grippy on the rocks. I researched these alot back when I swapped tires on the buggy, and noticed alot of comp guys are using them. I may give them a try because at 300 bucks a tire for a 38x14.5r16, they are one of the lowest priced tires in that size range on the market right now
This guy does most of the comps for my buddy's shop. He is runnung the 35" toyos and makes everything look easy. I think those tires would be a good choice for what you are doing.
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i know where there is a set just like that. just been sitting there for quite a while...
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yes, check out defender 90's the cage goes through the top
A boat canvas place should be able to handle that, most new boats have roll cages now.
is that the set you built a year or so ago for the scout?Quote:
Originally Posted by agjohn02
no, those went on the scout when i built them.
im talking abouy eric's that have been in the floor of the shop for months.
aww hell, thats normal for eric. We bent up the tubes for his flatbed last january or so, and they still haven't been installed.
speaking of, where the hell is he? He should of gotten the internet by now.
One question on the D300. I keep seeing where people suggest swapping in the bigger rear output. But when you do this, do you need to change out to a bigger yolk?
Yes the bigger output has a bigger splined area with more splines. I think stock is 27 spline and the upgrade is 32. I haven't seen anyone break a stock one, but I'm sure it's been done. May not be a bad idea since you'll be using it as the second case, but with the little motor you probably don't have to worry about it. I likely put more torque through mine than you will. I've got 17.4 reduction in front of it while you'll have about 24, but jeep's motor has much more torque. If you think you could break the pinion on a d44, then you could break the output on the d300, they're the same size.
okay, good info to know. I'm trying to figure out if its worth doing the D300 case or just sticking with dual toy cases. The toy case setup would cost less, as the t-case is cheaper, as is the adapter. Plus I don't need to source the flanges to run the toyota driveshafts, and the shifter is easier to route. The D300 costs more, and requires a fair amount more work, but is clockable, and allows true twin stick/front dig which is what I'm after. As for the rear output, recent talk on pirate had me wondering if the d300 output was really failure prone.
I think alot of people on pirate upgrade it just so others will think they are cool, but that goes for alot of stuff on that board.
yeah it does
okay, I guess the first step on this thing is fixing up the interior, or more importantly, gutting it. One thing I need to figure out is what seats to go with. From our discussion here, and research on the internet, I think I'm going with beards or PRPs. http://www.redart.com/ http://www.prpseats.com/suspension-seats.html PRPs were better priced for the most part, but with my size I think I would need the wider version, which cost a little more. Then I found these beards. http://bcbroncos.com/store/images/im...tster%20HB.jpg
They look like they would work well in a daily driver, and a company here in texas has them listed for a better price then I've found them elsewhere. http://bcbroncos.com/store/product_i...roducts_id=705 Plus I could possibly pick them up to save on shipping. Anyone ever heard of this BC Broncos?
never heard of them, but I bet shipping would be cheaper unless you just hapened to be out there in the area...
you also get about $40 of tax on them
true about the tax thing. I may just get the prps, and order one wide seat for my big ass
Tax offsets the savings on shipping, but you're helping out a Texas company. I think wide seats are in my future as well...