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Originally Posted by Chadnutz
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Originally Posted by Chadnutz
Dude, whatever.. You don't know anything. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fredo
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I agree with ya, on the rock sliders and the bumper and protection mods. I dont put much stock in performance pieces on this rig, at least not until the warranty is up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chadnutz
I DO NOT agree with you on credit cards. I believe that if you have a card you pay off every month it helps build your credit and you have to have a certain amount of self control with your money, something i have not seen thus far from many people at our school. Me, I tend to do pretty well for my money, I am a senior, haven't taken a loan yet, school is getting paid for, and I am making the monthly payment on this FJ too. Mainly because of credit cards and qualifying for great financing.
I do hope to go to Clayton with ya'll and see some rock crawling.
By don't use them, I mean don't run up a balance. I understand the benefits of good credit. I did , afterall, get a new house right out of college that is too much of a chunk of my income. I owe that to credit cards and building up credit, I guess. :flipoff2:
so is don't "use your credit cards" the new "don't wheel a full-size"?
I say FVCK both of those! :flipoff2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Snatch Adams
Its been about a year. But will be going again in October, hopefully.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fredo
-Mark
2nd Annual TAMOR Trail Oktoberfest in Gilmer??!?Quote:
Originally Posted by mark
Wow I really didn't think i would be met with such pessimistic outlooks from this group. Maybe it looks like I wasted my 35 bucks by joining an organization that would rather see me sit on the sidelines than have a little fun. I guess you all must think I am crazy for doing this, thats fine. Ain't nothing going to stop me from wheeling this thing. I bought it for one thing, and one thing only, to take it OFF ROAD. Now I am going to keep on treating it nice and not damage it too much, but I just didn't expect so many people to kick my dream in the gut.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cajun
If you think i am crazy for wheeling this, Then take a look what I did this summer. I took a stock lexus GX470 to 13,000 ft and back up engineer's pass at the Alpine Loop in Colorado. Some pretty steep climbs, some really big rocks, but I used the vehicle for what is meant for, off roading...
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A lexus was meant for offroading?!?!
Good thing I'm looking at getting an IS next year
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Originally Posted by FJAggie07
thats the norm around here. get used to it and its a rather fun group to be around. dont take anything personally, unless it's coming from jerry. he's the resident offender. :flipoff2:
Dude take it easy. We'd love to see you beat the **** out of it! :flipoff2: Seriously though, some of us have been down this road and know the final result. From the way I saw you wheel at 47 I predict this thing will look like creighton's jeep in a year.Quote:
Originally Posted by FJAggie07
If you wheel it, accidents will happen, period. I'm not talking scratches either.
I cringe at the thought of getting dents in my 96 F150. This is what most of us are getting at, Why take the risk of beating up a brand new vehicle? It's much more fun to buy something older and not worry about it.
Either way, I'll support the thrashing.
We aren't trying to piss in your Cheerios, so don't get upset. There are just a few of us that have lightly played with vehicles that were our daily drivers that still had payments to be made, and we have all seen it more than enough times...
I started out with a stock TJ that started to get modified during my freshman year, and by my sophomore year it was dying on a weekly basis and by that Christmas I HAD to have a second vehicle.
All of that was a result of ONE trip to Alto in which I sank it in a puddle that looked smaller than it was. We aren't trying to discourage you from taking it offroad or modifying it. We are trying to make sure you don't get too far in to modifying a vehicle and then regretting it in a few months when you realize you have a vehicle that should be in perfect shape but isn't.
You seem sensible, so just keep things normal and don't try anything unless you're ok with the possible outcome. If all else fails, I'm sure you have full coverage insurance... :D
Oh guys I was joking, that is why I threw up the Lexus pics. I am going to off road my baby, I am going to be cautious with her and wont do anything too extreme with her, I was just trying to get back at the dude who said he would cringe!
Oh and by the way that Lexus is pretty badass. Nothing but a Landcruiser Prado from overseas but it is full time fourwheel drive with an up and down hill assist thing that makes life pretty easy. I know, who the hell buys a lexus to take it off road and actually needs full time four wheel drive? NO BODY, so why do they have it, who the hell knows?!?! But outside of my 4 wheelers and a 3/4 ton crew cab chevy with a duramax (which is just a little big for those switchbacks in the mountains) it was what i had to wheel with, so i made the b!tch climb a mountain!
..but you can't afford to get a second rig to beat on offroad? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by FJAggie07
Ok I could sell my 4 wheeler and get a beater but i really LIKE my honda rancher, and the chevy is my dad's the lexus my mom's and the FJ is ALL me. Kind of a PITA as far as payments go but i have been obsessed with Toyota and FJ's since My parents brought home a 90 4-Runner and an 89 Supra straight off the lot on the same night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fredo
X2 :gigem:Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug Krebs
i know where one is
Wheel it. If you know how to drive and are not a dumbass you will have alot of fun. The whole "buy a beater" thing is :rainbow: Yeah, buy a Sami or a Yota, spend time/money doing this and that and take it out, do some obstacle that will break it, spend more time/money in the drivway polishing a turd, repeat. And it will never be as reliable as your FJ. This is Texas, the majority of any obstacle will have a bypass. Creightons TJ is the way it is because he wheeled the piss out of it.
My Bronco is a "beater" and some minor thing pisses me off every trip. AT BVORR is was the starter solenoid.
And the Alpine Loop can be done in most any stock 4x4. I spend two weeks in my fairly stock F150 all over that area and had a blast because the terrain pushed the limits of the truck I was in. It would have been insanely boring in the Bronco.
I can see that FJ going to Alto, BVORR, Katemcy, Hot Springs, and many other places we go and having a great time. Welcome to the club and nice rig.
Do whatever you want. Conlee has wheeled the **** out of his Jeep and it's still in decent shape. Everyone has their own idea of what you should do. Take the suggestions and then make your own decisions. Don't argue with them and always stand your ground because you are the one that you need to please...no one else. Take it from me. Once upon a time there was a 50 page thread on my truck buildup and at least 1/3 of it was arguing that probably reflected pretty poorly on the clup from the outside world. I still wish they'd bring it back and put it in the Kitchen locked or something. No TAMOR member should be without that piece of TAMOR legacy. :flipoff2: Happy trails. :cheers:
Your bronco used to be really nice though.Quote:
Originally Posted by JBrown89
I don't regret trashing my Scout, I had a great time and made some lifelong friends along the way. It's just a truck, mine's still on the road/trail. Of course mine wasn't brand new, but it was nice.
My advice would be to ride along in Clayton or come out to Gilmer at the end of October. You'll be able to see what we are talking about. This group for the majority likes to rockcrawl. That means tight trails, big rocks, trees, rollovers, dents, exploding parts, etc. I wouldn't suggest putting a new rig through any of that, no matter what it is. What I think this club is scared of is someone coming out and destroying their new rig. Of course half the people in this club got their trail rig (including myself) this way, so to each his own. I'm excited to see an FJC in the club, makes us look diverse, you know vision 2020 and ****! :gigem:
X2 on what John B. and Nutz said. The whole purpose of our club is to go out and have fun wheeling, you DO NOT have to have some trail only beater p.o.s. just to get out there and go to events. Some of our members don't even own an offroad vehicle but they are still active in the club. Over time the image of the club has been skewed in which it is believed that everyone must have an extensively built rig just to not catch flack from people. That is not the case here, some of our old members might believe so, but that's just not how things are. Not everyone can afford to have a tow rig, trailer, and trail rig... You CAN have a STOCK vehicle, still wheel it, and have a good time.
Wheel your FJ, have fun, live and learn. Maybe someday you might decide to build something, but you've made it clear that that's not the case right now, so have fun with what you have. :gigem:
As I've said before at almost every event we go to you can wheel and make it through the trails with a stock vehicle. Take Aggie Highway at Katemcy for example, Clayton, Steven, Tommy, and more all wheeled this trail with no issues and they still had a great time.
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Originally Posted by FJAggie07
my dad did it in his red truck...
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my uncle has a pocketknife!Quote:
Originally Posted by agjohn02
Robbie, did someone accidentally post under your name? That was good stuff! :flipoff2:
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Originally Posted by BMFScout
i really should have made it hurt. as far as im concerned, i still owe you one stumpy.
i aint saying nothing to no newbies, unless its "hey you wanna beer?", "You always feel the room spinning after three, hit this bottle of wild turkey that'll take the edge off", "Here pewk in this", "Nah just sleep it off here, I'll give your girlfriend a ride home". :D :flipoff2:Quote:
Originally Posted by agjohn02
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Originally Posted by Snatch Adams
bottom line right thereQuote:
Originally Posted by JBrown89
You're still an *******.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snatch Adams
you're still a b!tch, until you prove me wrong when next we meet :D :flipoff2:Quote:
Originally Posted by afroman006
Wowsas... I didn't think bringing a new rig to the table would start such an interesting thread... I am really holding the popcorn now and enjoying this.
By the way I just found out I can sell my stock running boards that I have nothing in for about $450, put a little more money with that, maybe I might relive my original off road roots and buy an old SR5... You guys are really rubbing off on me. I am really considering this beater idea. Anybody got a good garage I can set up shop in? Unfortunately my barn is 2.5 hours away and my current place has only a concrete slab as one parking spot...
Ah to be a newbie to something when I am a Senior. It feels so good again. I have been in too many organizations over the years and maybe I am just a little set in my ways, but hey how about I bring out a brick of stones to the next little get together and we all have some fun the only way i know how ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Snatch Adams
I like this Idea. I don't plan on rock crawling the new FJ and would love to ride along with anyone. I am not about to do a solid axle swap or put any kind of suspension that would allow the kind of wheel travel I want OR risk screwing it up beyond all repair. I am definately learning just from ya'lls stories, but I also want to see my FJ's practical limits. Keep on ranting guys...I am learning something.Quote:
Originally Posted by CRaSHnBuRN
I like him already :gigem:Quote:
Originally Posted by FJAggie07
You should take on as many modifications as you can at one time. Selling parts off of it is a great way to finance future mods and/or beer. And if you don't think you'll have time to finish it, take it from me....it's still just a theory, but I know one of these days my cruiser will fix itself.
I hate the damn running boards anyways and sliders would be a very nice PROTECTIVE mod to help out when i find myself in a situation where i was.....how do i say....stupid?
There are a few ways to keep your rig pretty and wheel it.
4.) Stay away from following people like me or Eric,
3.) Don't enjoy hitting ****
2.) Be gentle with the throttle
1.) Stay away from tight trails w/ trees
I think the FJ is sweet, do with it as you wish, but remember that you are making payments on it and it is your DD. You don't want to compromise you DD so you can do more off-road. I did and it was a horrible decision, I had to buy a truck just so I could reliably get to work.
Oh and jerry, Wild Turkey, or in my case Jack Single Barrell doesn't take the edge off, you just end up sleeping on the floor.
kissing the toilet.Quote:
Originally Posted by AggieTJ2007
Yeah learned that lesson this weekend at BVORR. Following Robert and his F-100 up a hill that had a nice tight trail on the other side of it. We all winced inside of the FJ as i took a nice branch right down the side of the FJ. Nothing a high speed buffer and some wax didn't take care of on Monday tho!Quote:
Originally Posted by AggieTJ2007
A sentence like that usually has rust bucket included. You'll be hard pressed to find a 40 that is in good condition and ready to go for a reasonable price. Complete basketcases go for what some nice jeeps go for.Quote:
Originally Posted by TexTJ209
I think some of you guys think he is going to take it to Katemcy and first off try to take it up Baby Hughie's Crack. From the type of stuff he has done in the past, the FJC will handle it fine. I don't think he's going for the extreme rock crawling just yet.
This statement right here pretty much sums up what the club is trying to say. If you value your paint enough to worry about tree limb scratches, be very careful of who you follow up trails and what trails you go on. Just know your limits. What I used to do is just follow somebody who was similarly equipped to me that had more experience wheeling and just watch how they pick lines on trails and see how their path up the obstacle worked out before heading up. Another thing is to have a good spotter that you trust. Don't let people you haven't wheeled with before spot you. You may come off as somewhat of a prick, but they might not know how particular you are about your vehicle and at least it might save your fender or rocker.Quote:
Originally Posted by FJAggie07
Yes! Joseph understands me! thank god someone does....Quote:
Originally Posted by TxCruzr
Yeah if you ask the guys out there the scratches didn't bug me, but why not do something about it to make your DD look nice when you can? Sh!t happens, scratches happen, dents happen, but you are right I prefer not to scratch it but if it happens you take care of it. Nothing wrong in taking pride in the way your DD looks, now if i had a beater that is different. I will sacrifice a couple of scratches to feel the way i did when i made it up the hill on sunday... I was taking the FJC's off road virginity there and lets just say it was the best virgin i have ever had.... (come to think about it maybe the only....i gotta stop drinking so much...)