is a porta cool the same as a mr. mister?
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is a porta cool the same as a mr. mister?
The Clyde in his infinite wisdom has researched this. You can get around it with a secret box that costs about $200 or you can buy a variable speed drive for a couple hundred bucks. The drive will allow you to power the mill or lathe and have infinite speed control.Quote:
Originally Posted by afroman006
He has one drive with a selector switch for either his lathe or mill. So the 3 phase is not such a big deal....
those inverters are not the ultimate solution. if you have the opportunity to run three phase its better. plus, a dynamic inverter is $$$. the cheap static ones arent great for your equipment and result in a good portion of lost power from what ive researched. i was looking at getting a 3 phase drill press at one time and checked into it.
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Originally Posted by agjohn02
And running 3 phase to a normal house is economical?
It is not too bad if it is done in conjuction w/ the wiring of a "new" shop. Just having it done by itself might be a little pricy.
We have a porta-cool in our shop/barn. It kicks arse in the summer. The barn/shop/shed building structure was built by Morton.
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Originally Posted by CheapJeep
ya don't say.... :flipoff3:Quote:
Originally Posted by CheapJeep
Fixed it. I meant to edit the first post but accidentally posted twice.
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Originally Posted by KrazyKarl02
sorry, i forgot that "ultimate" meant "cheap redneck"
i wouldnt call it "cheap redneck", more economical.
alright help me figure out a shop on a "30 stones" type budget.
I am thinking about buying this house. Great place, but the attached garage has been turned into a room. Sucks but it can't have been much of a garage in the first place and it will make a kickass movie room. I digress.
So I am eventually going to put a detached garage in the back yard. Thinking deep 1 1/2 car, with no intention of ever "parking" a car in it. But not yet. Guessing that'll probably cost me $20k that I won't have for a little while, so in the interim I need a place to work on vehicles where I won't get splinters in my back, and a place to store tools and bikes where I can access them easily and feel comfortable leaving them for a week at a time. So I need a slab and a shed.
Thinking about a 3" self-poured slab with no reinforcement, with dimensions about 2' wider and longer than a suburban (to keep stuff out of the dirt/grass), and a kustom shed that is real wide and not very deep, with a sturdy roll-up door? Maybe spend the money on a door I could re-use on the garage eventually?
Input welcomed and appreciated :flipoff2:
I'd say go ahead and pour a good reinforced slab that you can still use after the garage is built...maybe even pour the slab that you intend to build the garage on. No sense in spending all that money on concrete if it's going to crack and have to be dug up when you're ready to build the garage.
I agree don't waste your time onsomething that you are going to have to redo later.
Don't you usually have to have the building planned out before pouring the slab, to incorporate anchors and conduit, etc?
Maybe I just need a small sea container right now
You don't have to have the entire thing planned, just make a plan on where you want the walls/doors so embed plates can be installed in the floor. Even then, for the size you are wanting to build you probably don't even need those*. Any plumbing you may want can be added later through-wall.
*This is just an opinion, I am not a civil engineer nor am I licensed to practice as a civil engineer in the States of Texas, Colorado, or Inebriation. All advice may be accepted at advisee's own risk. Advisor is not responsible for injury, loss of limb, or increased hippieness as a result of structural failure. Always wear a seatbelt. Have your pet spayed or neutered.
I was also thinking maybe I could just figure out where the apron will go on the finished product and pour it well so it could be kept.
Anybody got experience with those metal carports? Better/cheaper to just build a small pole barn?
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I would look into the sea containers, I'm thinkin bout gettin me one or two. they can be had for cheaper than a similar size tuff shed, they are sealed real well and can really take a beating.
The only thing you would really need to be concerned about is underslab plumbing or electrical, if you're going to run it that way. I think you would be fine just mapping out where you want to have the eventual garage, pour a nice slab with mesh, and when you go to build, you can just use tapcons for attaching to the slab. Wiring can just be ran in conduits outside of the garage and burried.
You'd probably need a permit for pouring that though, maybe a bigger PITA than it's worth. You could always do concrete pavers for a temporary surface.
Do the container for now, then keep it for extra storage after you build the garage. I'm thinking about getting a midget one for my ranch to keep **** in down there.
rebar is cheap.
the idea behind the 3" slab was easy removal.
Seems that the sea containers are primarily distributed by just a few companies. Whose got experience?
sharpe you need a container
i need one for my ranch if you have an extraQuote:
Originally Posted by RCcola55
statement or question? punctuation is important kids. :flipoff2:Quote:
Originally Posted by RCcola55
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I found a container sales place on craigslist for Dennis. He called and talked them down a little on the price but I think it was around $2000.
mobile mini...you can rent it
garage slab should run somewhere around 3.50-4.50 a foot turn key w/ real metal, no netwire crap.
holy jeez guess that means it's tuffshed for me. Plenty of people selling them on craigslist for $600 or lessQuote:
Originally Posted by bburris
the 40 footers are more than $2k now. they make a 20 footer also. check with DRMO, they have them free to cheap from what i hear.
btw, shipping containers, 3" slabs, and crack houses dont belong in the "ultimate shop setup" thread
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Originally Posted by Snatch Adams
Our concrete contract on a 20 acre job (apartments, maybe 250-300 units) just went up almost 50k in one day due to the price of steel.
how much is the entire project costing?Quote:
Originally Posted by JBrown89
whats drmo?Quote:
Originally Posted by agjohn02
The concrete contract for that job is like 1.1mil, so 50k might not sound like alot, but my company is cheap.
That project is probably around 20 million? That a rough guess. I am doing an 11 acre, 192 unit project up here and it is 14 million.
is that in slabs and paving/flatwork?
yes, i dont know if sidewalks are in that or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snatch Adams
Defense Reutilization Management OfficeQuote:
Originally Posted by bcolman
Like I said in the other thread, CMC metals tried to go up from 900 to 1350 a ton on us. That would have been a $1.9M hit on our job.Quote:
Originally Posted by JBrown89
But generally speaking, no $0.50/ft isn't going to bankrupt someone on a garage slab.
Has anyone run across a good example of a large 1-car garage on pirate or somewhere?
Are there generally restrictions on how far a detached garage has to be from the house?
And how wide is a 2-car driveway?