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Originally Posted by JeepPhisherman
eat granola, date girls with hairy legs
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Originally Posted by JeepPhisherman
eat granola, date girls with hairy legs
and take up playing the bongo's and get one of those cool crocheted rainbow hats to keep your dreds all bundled up. don't forget the hemp T-shirt.
throw away all deoderant in medicine cabinet, vote democrat
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Originally Posted by JeepPhisherman
and actually have a working rig, unlike the three posters above :flipoff2:
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Originally Posted by Graystroke
You're basing your comments on one vehicle. I've personally owned 6 running toyotas (not including parts rigs), and other than very minimal maintenance (oil changes, spark plugs), I have never had to drop a dollar on any of the engines. This includes a buggy that averaged a roll every time I took it out. Overall toyota engines are some of the most reliable (albeit underpowered) engines out there. I know you may not feel that way (rover fag :flipoff2:)
And whats wrong with parts being cheap? It seems kinda a stupid point to argue. Parts get ****ed up and wear out, why run a engine that is going to cost huge amounts of money to repair, especially on a trail rig. I don't think you're cheap remanufactured parts = crappy engine theory really holds water
did you read what you quoted? key word: SCHEDULED maintenance. This means that it is not one car, it's every car produced, period, no arguing that.
you have never had to drop a dime b/c you never put any miles on them..trail rigs, and the ones that you did drive you got rid of before the first oil change was due. :flipoff2:
I think every toyota jimmy has had had some kind of issue. the one he bought was on its 2nd motor, his Dad's had some kind of timing chain issue and some other stuff IIRC.
same problems other motors see...no difference, no better.
what makes it worth to keep them going is the cheapness of parts...that's why so many are rebuilt and kept on the road.
PS you're a toy :rainbow:
:flipoff2:
feller, you actually read all that grayson babble, then took the time to rebut it?
You don't want a V6 (3VZE) Toy, so the 1989 is out.
55s and 80s are cool, but not what you're after.
The 1988 4Runner looks like a good deal, but by the time you get it fixed up, you may as well buy the built truck (assuming you can fit in the cab) if you can talk him down some. It's ready to go. You might want to start pricing out parts so that you know what it's going to cost to get them installed. I'd put numbers to these but it's been a long time. Feller can probably help since he's been doing it. Rodney, Scott, and maybe even Cody could also.
gears - probably not necessary
lockers - weld them
tires -
wheels (+bead locks?) -
SAS -
axle -
shocks -
spirings -
mounting hardware -
brake hoses -
drive shafts (+longer after lift?) -
bumpers - probably not necessary for a while unless unless + winch (~$200)
extra t-case (+gears?)-
hi-steer (+hydro?) -
winch -
If you're going to spend $2k, $3k, $4k, or $5k AFTER the purchase of a stock 4x4 22RE, that would be good to know for your upfront decision. It might make some of the already built deals look more attractive.
Assuming the doors will get taken off, the added side windows on a xcab are a huge target for breaking glass. Something else to think about. You wouldn't have that issue with a 4Runner body. Search Pirate FS for 4Runner deals. Whatever you do, don't buy one of these POS models:
http://4by4runner.com/images/4runner%20016.jpg
Although I hear one of those locked at both ends with some 33s can hit the trails just fine.
More for comparison...
http://www.reno4x4.com/forum/1984-to...2114.html?amp;
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=642306
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=632403
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=642667
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=641997
The last one looks promising at a glance. That bumper is uber easy to build.
He talks about the SAS here: http://www.trail-gear.com/vbulletin/...ead.php?t=1570
Grayson, thanks for the input but KK experience with new cars in not the issue. I am not shopping for a new car for the wife, but a trail rig. I have already decide on Yota, now I am looking for educated advice on how to build it.
It also seems 4runners are easier to find, pretty much looking for a late 80's one with a 22re.
part of this that there is a budget ceiling (about 3K), I do not have a unlimited budget for what I want. I need to keep some in the biz for the spring. So if some parts of the dream build will have to wait till the fall (dual cases, lockers, lower t case gear, bumper and x-o-cage). I want to mainly get the SOA, SAS, and some tires to start so I can get on the trail, hopefully for Memorial day.
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Originally Posted by davido
not quite, needs to be EFI
http://www.reno4x4.com/forum/1984-to...2114.html?amp;
looked at this one earlier, but the trip to OR could be a killer.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=642306
cool but too much for now
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=632403
saw this one, too much.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=642667
that has potential, same issue as with the OR, way out there. maybe an excuse to drop by and visit mark.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=641997
that would be peemp for the uniqueness factorQuote:
Originally Posted by Graystroke
trading emails with the guy in NJ, it seems like a good set up for what I want. Not to keen on the 10" wheels, may buy some 8"-er and swap them out. Would probably have a friend in MD pick it up and store it till march or so.
92 toyota - around 25K miles before I rolled itQuote:
Originally Posted by Graystroke
89 toyota - first truck, and heavily abused, around 20k miles between me and my little sister
:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:
and yeah, I read most of Graysons post and disputed it. What can I say, I'm bored and drunk and not looking forward to my flight to Michigan in the morning.
Kollins *****ed about everything and went through cars like Seth goes through beers, maybe more! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Graystroke
The 22re is a badass little motor, forged crank, aluminum head, etc.etc. Dad's first one he bought had some issues but it had 200k on it. Mine had two motors in it, one in the bed and the other in the engine compartment. Both had 100k on them and the only thing wrong with either is they didn't bother to quit running it when the timing chain was grinding against the water pump housing due to the tensioner going out and the plastic isolator breaking down. Probably something that was supposed to be done at the 100k mile SCHEDULED maintenance. I fixed that, put in new bearings, new gaskets, re-ringed it and lapped the valves. I checked the oil for the first time in 4500 miles tonight and it hadn't lost a drop. They don't make a lot of power, but every one we've had apart the crank, cylinders, etc are always within spec. It's the best "gas mileage" motor out there, AND is really cheap. That little truck has saved me tons of money. I drive it 250 miles a week minimum (probably more like 300) and fill up the 11 gallon tank once a week. The part I like best about it is that it's a 4-cyl small motor but is in the compartment north-south like God intended so it's easy to work on unlike the Honda I had.
That being said, it's fine for getting me around. On the trail I like to hear my engine, even if it makes my rig heavy and I blow up stuff. Incidentally, there is a shiny spot on my springs on that side. My steering stop is hosed. I wonder if the tire was against the springs when I blew up that shaft in Clayton? Highly likely I say.
Quit being gay, wheel a scout. You'd look really gay in a little yota, look at Rodney! :flipoff2:
http://dallas.craigslist.org/pts/523656966.html
buy for $600, add $2300.
I'd be on that like stank on ****....Quote:
Originally Posted by BMFScout
no way I can build an equivalent Scout for the same money and effort. Time is a bigger consideration these days, I hope to crest the "money is cheaper that time" curve later this year. Just not quite there yet, but my time is worth more for future earning now, need to keep my focus there. Didnt use to be the case, but I am making some progress on that front. :D
I need something that is close to done and I can do upgrade on the weekend or a binge build. I just want something to wheel now otherwise it will be like my other project, just collecting dust and money.
[QUOTE=BMFScout]Kollins *****ed about everything and went through cars like Seth goes through beers, maybe more! :)
I drive it 250 miles a week minimum (probably more like 300) and fill up the 11 gallon tank once a week.
The part I like best about it is that it's a 4-cyl small motor but is in the compartment north-south like God intended so it's easy to work on unlike the Honda I had.
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1 - although I was slacking on saturday, due to my productivity, thats still a lot of *****ing!
2 - so 23-29 MPG. put that on the mental note list. Ya'll still sellin one?
3 - I have this same feeling. It's what got me into a scout in the first place. The vw pickup, while getting killer mpg with a 0-60 time of 5.2 minutes, was too ghey with the front wheels hopping. it couldnt quite do what I would call a burnout. so then i did lots of one wheel smokies in the scout (and a couple new rearends i think) to make up.
Id love a turbodiesel rear drive minitruck.
oh yeah, the early v dub diesel ownership makes me like the sammy vdub swaps too.
hey Yota guys, look this over and give me the low down:
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all of the pics i have are on pirate4x4
http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=641997
it has trail gear hi steer. a stock ifs power steering box. it has 4.10 gears f+r. rear has a detroit true trac. i change the oil once a month. and the diff fluids every 3 months. it needs a wind shield. a driver side fender. and a right rear axle seal. i have a windshield and the axle seal. i will include the windshield if i get close to what im asking. i dont have a front bumper for it.
http://www.texas4x4.org/showthread.php?t=19513
this one been posted yet?
Looks like a pretty typical IFS Runner/Truck build. If you can get it for $3K or under, it's worth it. The same truck in IFS form, if it's in as good condition as it looks in the pictures would be $2K. Only thing you'd need to add would be some gears or a doubler and a bumper and you'd be set until you felt like fecking with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jackasic
I meant to post that last night. That one does need new rubber and is a reg. cab though.Quote:
Originally Posted by DRAGOONRANCH
reg cab and no EFI = FAIL!,Quote:
Originally Posted by DRAGOONRANCH
j/k Ed
With the cost of fuel, not having to drive half way across the US would make those minor concerns to me. :flipoff2:Quote:
Originally Posted by JeepPhisherman
You are right though, and I didn't even think about the single cab until after I posted it.
as a fell Arctic Isolated Texan, you know that won't fly ;)
This part I will admit to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jackasic
But I still believe in da 'pane baby....
:beer:
I feel ya pain bra, but nothin a hotwrench and BFH won't fix. :gigem:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jackasic
trying to reduce the getto fab in my lifeQuote:
Originally Posted by DRAGOONRANCH
tru dat
Nothng ghetto-fab about propane, it's just a cleaner install and less mess in the engine bay.
it's ghetto fab in my book, buck up and buy and EFI setup (no offence Andy). I can be done clean but most people hack together on the cheap and it ends up being junk.
another single cab in CA: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=633864
You can even get a tax credit if you register it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jackasic
And oh yea, $2.31/~gal.
the NJ truck is probably a rust bucket
And if your buddy's trailer fawks up and you want to let him borrow yours and drive your rig home a 3 hour blast down the highway is no problem! Plenty of places to refuel!!
so, I could care less about gas mileage. what am I going to spend on a wheeling trip, two tanks? I think I can afford it.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeepPhisherman
temping for the price, but I am going to pass. If it was a stick I might just buy it for parts, the 80 will need them some day.Quote:
Originally Posted by BMFScout
I remember that scout being posted on craigslist something like 6-8 months ago for $2000. I laughed about it then. $900 is still too much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jackasic