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Originally Posted by DRAGOONRANCH
there's a 4 speed now?
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Originally Posted by DRAGOONRANCH
there's a 4 speed now?
Yep, here is a link to it.
Holy crap it even has synchros. I do believe that makes it an extremely short manual transmission.
Hey Ed according to this chart http://www.atlas-tc.com/download/SelectChart.pdf they do make an apater and input for the 10 spline output SM465. Interestingly enogh, they also aparently make one for a 35 spline 2wd SM465. I would use the 2wd version, since A) it will probably be shorter (not that that really matters in a fullsize) B) it will be stronger and C) 2wd trannies go for dirt cheap.
Low Range: (2.0:1, 2.72:1, & 5.44:1) or (2.72:1, 3.8:1, & 10.34:1)
High Range 1:1
thats some gearing right there
I called Atlas awhile back, and they said they do not have the 10 spline adapter for the 4x4 465 for the 4spd. I am just going off of what they told me, this does seem strange as many of them that are out there. I don't know, I guess I will figure it out when I order it next month. I caint wait. Te He He.Quote:
Originally Posted by afroman006
On the custom order page for the 4speed case, they talk about custom adapters. Might want to call and check with them again, since it lists a 465 adapter now.Quote:
Originally Posted by DRAGOONRANCH
Well, the tire fairy showed up today, and all he left was these two dogs.
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...ome/200639.jpg
Ha, fooled ya. :flipoff2:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...evy/200640.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...evy/200638.jpg
What size wheel that take?
SWEET!!!! nice dogs too
New centers, and pvc inserts from usa6x6 are on their way and will be headed to the neighbors shop for placement into the 8 bolt hummer rims as soon as they get there. The tires were bought from AJ Johnson on PBB, I highly recomend him, good prices, cool to talk to, and he came through with out a hitch. He also deals in other 4 wheel parts, I think I might order my Atlas through him.
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Originally Posted by eight
i would assume 16.5". thats what h1's are arent they?
Nice tires. :gigem: Good lookin' pup's too. :)
They are 19.5/44-16.5
I would not have gone with the 16.5 after our discussion on the trail about them at Katemcy, but the hummer rim, albeit not a true cheap alternative once pvc inserts and new centers are bought, seem to be cheaper and stronger than most of the other beadlocks out there. Just something about a good ol' iron wheel that does it for me.
what is this pvc inserts yall are talking about
Yea the hummer rims are good. Just most 16.5s, like the ones you had, suck because the tire falls off real easy. I also have 16.5s but they have beads bigger than any other wheel I know of. I lifted up the front of the dodge trying to break a bead on one today.
So, what ya gonna do with the old tires?
PVC inserts just go in place of the stock runflats to provide for bead locking without having a runflat.
i see that makes since
kopecki has had his eyes on those tires since katemcy
I don't know what to do whith them yet, may put them on the toy this christmas if I have the time to put the extra wontons under it. If I deide to get rid of them Kopecki, you got dibs.
I just talked to the guy who I got the tires from, and he got me a quote on the atlas 4spd.
the Atlas itself is $2500 and included is twin stick and cable shifters and 3.8 and no speedo.
the CV flanges are an additional $125 each
the adapter is $230
and shipping will be around $80, give or take $15 to be safe.
But here is the kicker.
The first shipments of these will start in June.
I am sure even if I order now, it won't make it before I come home, so I am going to beat the crap outa the 465/205 this trip, then throw it in after that. :flipoff2:
what's the wait on a stak case?
Seems like that or a 203/205 doubler are really your only other options
You already have the hummer rims? If not, I know a guy who has some for sale. If you might want to work out a partial trade for your old tires, (what size are they BTW), I'll let said guy know.
if you do the doubler it takes a couple months after you order it to actually get it also
I am willing to take my time on the TC. It is important and, unlike moving up to a 60 and putting chromoly in as things break, the only way to do the TC is to do it right the first time.
Ok, I updated the cost analasys. This has blown the 6k budget right out the door. ***. Here is the link to it.
Just doing some progressive thinking, and here is some of what is left to come.
$3000 - Atlas 4spd w/ adapters
$ 700 - PRP seats and harnesses
$1400 - Hydro steering
$ 300 - Propane tanks
$ 300 - York onboard air setup (compressor, tank, and lines)
$1300 - Regear and detroits
So tack on another $7000 and we should be close to trail ready. -pimp-
this's gonna be a bad dood!
cage?
The cage will come when I get home for good, I really want to fab this one up myself. I do a decnt job with this kind of stuff, the mechanical is my weak link. I always fixed hay balers, plows, and trailers. If we had mechanical trouble, we always took it to the shop. Grandad never was mechanicaly inclined, so he never messed with the stuff, and the welding I just picked up from breaking out his old cracker box, and pushing puddles on anything i could find. I worked full time at a large shop in Cameron as a fitter, so I know how to put it together and make it work, even did a few month stint in a chair factory, so gained a little bending experience there (don't ask, this was a very bad time, lots of beer, stoopid biatches, and uber redneck idiot friends). I will put some slider on in June though, I will make them heavy duty so I can use them as a base for the cage.
hey Ed, my uncle has a twin propane setup for sale. Twin carbs and regs. Ill call him and find out a price
Rowdy, I have a set up in hand already. I appreciate it though. I will keep it in mind when we start on the toy though.
OK, I am about to send my h1 rims off to be recentered. I picked up the usa6x6 pressed centers. Now, what backspacing do I need to run the 44" boggers so they dont rub on the springs for when mounted on the d60? Is this the correct diagram that you refer to when talking ab out backspacing, I have seen a few others, and this seems to be the simplest of them.
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...asurements.jpg
If I rember right, they come with a 7" or so backspacing, and I figure they need to be close to 3 or 4 inches when through. I have been told to just rum dually hubs, but what is the difference WMS to WMS from a dually to a single axle 60.
Yea that's the right one.
I think the centers sit in the wheel at a certain backspace that you can't just change.
Andy has dually hubs on his scout with the hummer wheels. It's pretty wide.
The centers set real well on a small lip in the rim, but you can change this if needed. I understand that it is just a little more work to ensure they run true.
Krebs, Sharpe, yall have pm's. Let me know what ya think.
My front dually hubs give me an effective backspacing of about 4". It's no wider than a fullsize with "normal" wheels, it just looks wide because I have 12" of tire outside my fenders.
Your rear axle WMS--WMS width will be considerably narrower than your fron if you use dually hubs. No big deal, just aesthetics. This bothered me, so I'm using a GM Dually D70 (74" WMS--WMS).
Thanks, I guess I will just have the new center set in on the rim lip and go from there. It should be about right. I will have the guy just tack them inplace anyways, and weld them up after I try them out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cajun
I got bored and needed to spend some money, so I called Atlas up about the 4spd again. I talked to a guy, and he said that adapter part # 50-9810 would be needed to convert the 10 spl 465 to 23 spl. The lead time is still pretty long on these, he said I shouldn't expect it till mid to late July if ordered now, so I am gonna put the CC back in the wallet for now.
Now onto the question, is this really going to work, or did the guy just blow smoke up my ***? It almost seems to good to be true, but with all the 465's in use, it would seem stupid to not have an adapter. Maybe I have been tokin on the hooka too much again, :flipoff2: but that is for another thread alltogether.
I was able to get the pane tanks ordered, but no luck on the brackets. I will fab these up myself. A new set of tanks from Pro Tank Supply (2 43.5 lbs tanks) delivered for $375. I think I took it in the rectum on this one, but they came highly recomended from a mechanic friend.
I am thinking on holding off on the pane install for a while though. I just need to get the 60 in, the 14bolt regeared and the shackle flip done, then I can wheel it and see where to go next. I am thinking these would be major improvements over what I have now.
I did order some seats from Rock Buggy Supply, they are the daily drivers with the extra 2"s wide option. They are shipping the set with harneses for 770 to the door.
Now I just have to find a york compressor.
I got my pirate supplier to get me a quote on R&P's and detroits. Here is what he sent.
D60
5.13 gears Genuine Gears $179 OR Precision Gears $197
Master Install Kit $117
Detroit Locker $625
14B
5.13 gears Genuine Gear $205 OR Precision Gear $225
Master Install Kit $125
Detroit Locker $449
Are these prices about right, and is the price difference in the Genuine and Precision worth it?
is that shipped with tax?
Don't know, trying to find that out.