I read that article yesterday and was thinking about posting it, but didn't want to join in the diesel douchebaggery WW3 that might have flared up from posting the article. I do like how they mentioned why they didn't test the Dodge as well.
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I read that article yesterday and was thinking about posting it, but didn't want to join in the diesel douchebaggery WW3 that might have flared up from posting the article. I do like how they mentioned why they didn't test the Dodge as well.
Haha. I figured it would have rattled the birds from the bushes more, but oh well.
That's a pretty good read. I don't normally read truck tests, but from the few I have, I don't remember any real world scenarios like that.
What's the expected realworld (ie what you all have gotten not what fags on the interweb says ) mileage hwy/city of a 2002 7.3 ford.
Im looking at a 02 ext cab long bed 2wd with around 90k on it.
I had a 1999 Death-250 with the 7.3 and the ZF 6 speed, 4x4 and got about 16 mpg with no difference on the highway or city. When towinf the Klogger on the highway I got about 14 to 15 depending on hills. When I towed Mike's gooseneck (which I am convinced had dead fat hookers packed in it), I went down to 11. This was also going out to the original Katemcy and doing 90.
99 4x4 Dually with the ZF6 got 15 in ideal conditions and 14.5 with everything else (city, windy, hills, loads <10,000 lbs). Only made short trips with anything heavy so my estimation is 11 mpg with >10,000 lbs.
Also that was nearly always wide open and billowing smoke :flipoff2:
I would expect 14 city (depending on your definition of city) and 18 highway. I would also expect about 20 out of a 2wd on the interstate, excursion would do it. My dad's 7.3 single wheel 4x4s always got 15-16 on the highway.
Old dodge is still right on where it always is, 16.7mpg. If the transmission will ever go out I'll see what new injectors will do, they can't be that good anymore with 250K on them.
Yes, that's hand calculated. I do keep it below 70.:D
I may have finally found a job where I fit in. Found out the boss has a chip in his D6 dozer!
Alright, I'm probably buying an 03 death 250 2wd.
I have zero knowledge of diesels other than the fact that I will now use the green handle at the gas station, and I'll will pay up the rear for oil changes.
Anything I need to know?
About how much is an oil change gonna run if I do it myself? Still 3-5k per oil change I assume.
How often do I need to change the fuel filter? Brands to stay away from or use?
Also, anything to look for besides your standard used vehicle things like leaking oil, tires, etc that is diesel specific? What brand of chips are the best bang for the buck? I won't be adding one for a while if at all, but figured the info wouldn't hurt.
The history on the truck, it was bought by my girlfriends parents in like 06-07 with around 60-65k and the dealership had sold and serviced it since new and has been babied since. This is the main reason I like this truck because I know it hasn't been "Travis'd out" :flipoff2:and has low miles for a 8yr old truck while being the last year of the 7.3l.
I feel this is a loaded question but, do you all with chips actually get better mileage if you don't drive like a bat out of he'll? Mainly interested in highway mileage?
Check out DP tuner, that's what I had. Both mine and my Dad's old 7.3's went for more than 250k without any motor work.
Sometimes (as the case of the dually) the factory airbox lets to much dirt pass, this fixes it
http://www.puredieselpower.com/catal...988c7d4c27678a
I dont change my oil, it changes itself.
my TS chip on the second to highest setting got me 21mpg last tank and thats keeping it around 70, also get on ebay and find a cheap 4in turbo back kit. I spent just over 400 for exhaust and chip and it made a huge difference, only down fall is i would like to get a muffler.
major problem to look out for: fuel bowl o-rings going bad, turbo o-rings leaking, high pressure oil line going bad, and e-brake breaking.
How would you identify the turbo o rings leaking?
spray carb cleaner around it and see if the idle increases
Pour gas all over the engine, then light a match....oh wait, that can't be right.
got my 37 gallon tank into today
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...a/IMG_2402.jpg
I change oil every 10k and let dealership do it. It is under $100 unless I get them to do other crap. I'm lazy I know
6 point blow? (6.0L)
Head gaskets/studs if it hasn't been done already. You put big power to these engines, it's going to cause you trouble more than likely.
Amsoil has a new 25k mile filter. If you are going to do it yourself, think of how much less you would have to change it running it out that long. The marine/diesel oil is well suited to run mileage like that.
No Ed it's a 7.3l in 03 you got to choose if you wanted the 7.3 or 6.0. You couldn't pay me to buy a 6.0 especially an early model. I also do not plan on putting big power to it. If I want to go fast I'll buy a sports car.
Thanks for the info guys, ed I'll pm you once I get the truck and start crunching numbers on filters and such.
no problem. I will cut you the same deal everyone else in the club gets (pretty much my cost plus shipping and tax)
I need an oil change. PM me Ed.
I picked up my new to me death 250 this weekend.
2003 xlt f-250 ext cab long bed
7.3L powerstroke with 91k on the ticker, power windows, towing mirrors,etc. It has the 4spd auto with 3.73 and a limited slip. Also has a hideaway gooseneck hitch, rails for a traditional 5th wheel hitch, and a ranchhand rear replacement bumper. It also has a frontier grill guard and westin(old man) steps, toolbox, and spray in bedliner.
So far I am happy with it. It has lots of power and seems to get decent mpg using less than a 1/4 of a tank going from C.S to Crosby. It is going to need tires very soon, which is fine with me as I can get rid of the texas tilt which involves 285's out back and 235's up front, and I also picked up a set of excursion 16" aluminium wheels to replace the steel wheels with chrome covers.
Nice, i'm looking for something similar when I can get a car loan. Except I want a manual, rubber floors and wind up windows. Nothing to break
Can you send me a better picture of those wheels, I may be interested in taking them off your hands
I have never seen a problem with turbo o-rings leaking. Don't remember a truck where they didn't leak. Assuming this is why the turbo air lines have oil at the boots.
Do yourself a favor and buy a cam sensor to keep in the truck, they go out often but are about $20 and 2 minutes to replace. Maybe print out some instructions on how to change it and keep them with it. It's the same one used in the 99-02 7.3s. When buying parts you are better off to tell them the truck is an 02.
As for programmer, superchips 60hp tune has always worked well and I think it's the cheapest. You can pull 20k with it up most hills without slowing. I also like SCT because it will fit any Ford, reads codes, and is updatable for new models.
While all tuners claim to provide better mileage, I know of none that actually do on a 7.3.
http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/2333764983.html
Tummy buy this!!
perfect tow rig. If only i could get a car loan
I think Gulf Coast Crawl Shop built that truck. Saw it at Spring Creek a few years back. Also saw it hooked to a decent sized goose at BVORR for the MOROCC event last year.
I want that truck more than I want my next breath
Where are all the bitches gonna ride?