The CheapJeep

I went to Smiley's today to get the lines, but they had to order in the fittings which I'll pick up with my seat covers in a few days. I did get an Optima redtop to fit in my new battery tray.
I am picking up the Jeep TOMORROW!!! Finally I can get it home and do the little odds and ends I need to and go wheelin'.

Odd's/End's that I'll do when it comes home- get hoses for p.s., get belt for p.s. pump, drill out straps for front driveshaft and install. Other than that I just need to bleed the brakes and fire it up. I got a couple hills in the back I could flex it out on and test everything, I just want to bring it back with me to school so I can keep working on it. I was talking to my dad about the situation of me having a way to get it around up there and for trips, and since he needs the big trailer he said he's buying me a carhauler or something. Problem is, today is his last day in town for awhile and when he gets back he'll be too busy with rodeo so I really need to get on taking care of the inspection, registration, etc... just in case I need to make it street legal. The only thing it needs for that is to rewire the blinker module. Oh yeah, and another reason it might need to be streetable is that I have NO truck at the moment.

If you dont get the trailer in time make a towbar and flat tow it.

I just talked to my dad about the trailer issue and he said we'll figure it out but until then just take his. So that's cool, I'll take some pics tomorrow of my pile flexing on a load of dirt in the front pasture, I can't guarantee that one of the horses won't try to be in the pic though. They always follow me around when I'm mowing....freakin' idiots.

Just finished chores, now I'm loaded up and going to get my rig...hell yeah!

Got it home, did a little wrenching and took it for a spin. It's idling pretty high considering I have the set screw all the way out. Also I ran into an overheating problem which I think is the thermostat stuck in place, but my grandpa is coming down to lend a hand in the diagnosis. Have a power steering belt, but I still need to get the lines. Went to NAPA and they didn't have the right fittings so I went to a hose shop where I knew the guy there but he wouldn't have the fittings in until Monday so I think I'll try and find a different shop instead of waiting.
Didn't get any pics of wheeling, it got dark pretty quick so I didn't have time to install the front driveshaft since I was too busy working on other stuff, so I left it in 2 and did a little flexing.
Tomorrow I'll change fluids all the way around, install front driveshaft, finish putting passenger seat and harness in, bleed the brakes some more, etc...

Got some stuff done today. Front driveshaft installed, pass. seat and harness installed, and ran down some parts. I get to go back to Smiley's tomorrow to pick up the steel braided lines, plus I'm still searching for the fittings to do the power steering lines.
I did get to put it in 4 and wheel though.
I did succeed in catching my pants on fire while welding and blew a u-joint in the front driveshaft.
I hadn't shaved enough off the yokes on the driveshaft and front axle so it bound up whenever I was at full droop causing the u-joint to break. I limped it back to the shop and replaced it after shaving the yokes down some more. I made sure not to go shave them too far so they wouldn't weaken though.

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take some in the daylight or learn to use the camera :flipoff2:

are these power steering line fittings for the rolls royce junk?

you really need to ditch that rolls royce crap and go back to stock. I'm betting more rolls royces have saginaw pumps than the other way around.

That's what I was thinking since I've been to 3 different places and it just seems to be too much trouble. Like Davido said, where are you going to find parts for the thing? I'll just go down to one of the parts stores tomorrow and pick up a saginaw pump. It'll be alot easier to make lines for a jeep pump and Gm box than trying to find all the fittings for the damn rolls royce ****. I only thought it was bling til' I figured out no one has any fittings for em'. I wonder if I one of the parts stores would stock the bracket to hold the pump on or should I just use the one that we made?

whats next, paint?

and how comfortable are those seats

The seats suck right now without the covers. I'm still waiting on Smiley's to get them in from Jaz in California.
Steel braided lines
Finish power steering (I nearly broke my arms tonight trying to steer the thing with the front end locked)
Install my new tailights
That's it for this phase. Which I'll hopefull complete by tomorrow.
Next comes-
fab new dash with autometer gauges, c.b. setup I got for Christmas, some sort of sound system. Then paint. I'm line-xing the interior black, btf kit and cage will be fire engine red, body will be black.
As of now it's pretty much ready to go, my grandpa is coming tomorrow to help with the cooling issue, then we'll work on all the p.s. stuff and brakelines.

where are you at? try British Parts Unlimited (or something like that) in the H-town area. they are on Hempstead dr. or hell may be in Hempstead..I can't remember. If in CS call Bill Labarge at the Bug Clinic in Bryan. If they are in the Houston Area he can have them there next day in Bryan.

looks pretty good, i know that you can get a ford pump for like $40, but you will need to get a core out of a junkyard to get the $50 core charge back

I had a cheby pump but I couldn't find a v-belt pulley in time so Bill and them took the pump that had a v-belt pulley off the Rolls car they were building and put it on the Jeep. Flem and ya'll are right, I might be able to get the lines made but it will be a pain not to mention I'll never be able to find parts if I break on the trail. If I just get the stock pump and bracket it will be a straight bolt on and I can have the lines made at NAPA like I had originally planned since all the fittings are standard.

since saginaw pumps and boxes are factory for jeeps why don't you use a factory bracket and hose?

ebay has a few v8 and i6 brackets on there right now.

I'll pick up a saginaw pump tomorrow, but do you think the parts store's would have the bracket too? If not I can just get one off ebay like your saying or use the one we made. Could I mate the GM fittings to the stock lines or I imagine it'd be just as easy to have NAPA make the lines since they carry the fittings?

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Originally Posted by robertf03

since saginaw pumps and boxes are factory for jeeps why don't you use a factory bracket and hose?

ebay has a few v8 and i6 brackets on there right now.

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This is what I was going to recomend. My jeep has factory power steering and it has a saginaw pump. I doubt the parts store will have the brackets, that is a junkyard item. You probably wont have to have hoses custom made, unless you want to spend stupid amounts of money. I believe all saginaw pumps have the same fitting (only one is a fitting, the other is a hose barb and is part of the reservoir).

What fittings are you talking about? are you running the stock jeep gear box? if you're steering box has o-ring fittings then get a pressure line for an 81 cj with a 304. if it's got flared fittings then get one for a 78 with a 304.

His steering box has o-rings, its off an 85 S10 blazer.

then its got to be 81 and later. You have a v8, right? 81 is the last year of the v8 and the first year of the o-ring.

Nope, it's got a 258. So I'll need o-ring fittings for both? I'm getting lost here... :confused:

On the later model jeeps with o-ring fittings, are their fittings metric too? Cause chevies are.

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Originally Posted by CheapJeep

Nope, it's got a 258. So I'll need o-ring fittings for both? I'm getting lost here... :confused:

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go to the parts store and get a power steering line for an 81 cj with a 258 ;)

it'll have the ends you need for the steering box. You will need to get an 81 or newer steering pump so that it accepts the new style hose that your steering box uses.

So get a saginaw pump, use existing bracket or drill some new holes, buy o-ring pressure lines for 81 and later CJ? Is this correct?

Ah I see. BTW- on the box there are two threaded outlets, so which one is LP and HP, and I'll need two lines right?

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Originally Posted by CheapJeep

Ah I see. BTW- on the box there are two threaded outlets, so which one is LP and HP, and I'll need two lines right?

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correct, but on the return line you normally have a barbed fitting threaded into the gear box and use hose clamps and hose to reach the back of the barbed fitting on the pump resevoir.

I believe the one closer to the frame will be the high pressure side, and the one away from the frame the low pressure. You might need a barb fitting to screw into the low pressure side to connect it to the reservoir, but I'm not sure. One way to tell for sure what side is high and low pressure is to just get the hose, the bends in the metal end are usually prety indicative.

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Originally Posted by afroman006

I believe the one closer to the frame will be the high pressure side, and the one away from the frame the low pressure. You might need a barb fitting to screw into the low pressure side to connect it to the reservoir, but I'm not sure. One way to tell for sure what side is high and low pressure is to just get the hose, the bends in the metal end are usually prety indicative.

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pretty sure the thread is different too. bigger for the supply side. and yes, they are metric on the o-ring style.

I have one or 2 of those power steering pump brackets.

pm'd you.

Fixed overheating problem. It was the thermostat like I had thought. Replaced it, adjusted carb and fixed the idling problem. It's running awesome, you barely even know it's running but it has a good exhaust tone considering it's a $16 muffler. Also fixed the nastyness coming from a bolt being an 1/8 of an inch too long on the extra crankshaft pulley, a couple washers to space it out and it was perfect, no more noise.
While at the parts store I had the pump on the counter and was ready to guy it, but they didn't have any v-belt pulley's available at any stores, nor a cap for the reservoir. So I didn't buy it. I'm just going to pull the pump I have now off take it to J&B and have them make me 2 sets of lines so I'll have a spare.
I also did a little body work....Took the sawzaw and cut out some sheetmetal for my new taillights. I got them all wired up and now I even have blinkers. :laughing:

Sorry didn't get to finish my post, I did take it for a drive and no problems....yet. I drove over to my neighbor who I bought it from and she flipped the **** out. She didn't even recognize it at first and thought it was cool.
I'm eatin' some lunch then I'll go take some pics of it in action. :gigem:

redline and drop the clutch.
best way to find your weak spots without actually wheeling
:D

I had my grandpa riding with me up the road when I hammered the throttle and the tires broke loose in 1st gear...he told me before we left to take it easy. I wish I had a picture of the look on his face..... :laughing:

pills? Whaddaya need those for old timer? Looks like we got a little oil pressure problem. She's running reeeeel hot!

Here's some from today flexing on another load of dirt and in the ditch. I apoligize for my four legged friends constantly trying to be in the pics. I think they just like following me around.
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Now? Oh and this ***** is street legal baby, I got the blinkers, flashers, taillights, and high beam switch all working. Now it's time for inspection. :flipoff2:

BTW- Did I mention that I blew another u-joint? I'm getting really good at replacing them.... Turns out since the pinion yoke is a strap type with no type of hold for the u-joint like ones that use u-bolts, the u-joint kept sliding out when I was at full droop causing the caps to bust off. So I shaved the yokes down some more and tacked the caps in. All better now. I'm amazed at how quiet it is. You don't even know it's running. I have to give props to Crieghton for his bang up job on filling in the 2" exhaust pipe to 2.25" muff in/out.
Driving down the road was the funniest thing ever since neighbors had only remembered the old stock Jeep. They were like, "so that's what all that noise in the shop has been late at night..." :D It rides pretty nice but I seriously need my damn seat covers.

I was going to drill through the yoke until I placed a nut up to the back and saw that it wouldn't fit. I'll end up just getting another yoke to save time. Let me load a pic of the fender at full flex so you can get a better look.