Craptastic! Anyone have 39" of tie rod material?

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10-31-2006, 05:09 PM
Doug Krebs

Craptastic! Anyone have 39" of tie rod material?

Somehow I thought the tubing we had up at our shop had a smaller ID... Well no bueno, it's ID is too big.

Who ordered the tierod material so you can use a tap?
10-31-2006, 06:01 PM
AggieTJ2007

I do but it is going to cost you $.60 and inch
and you can tap my stuff at the same time
10-31-2006, 06:03 PM
Doug Krebs

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Originally Posted by AggieTJ2007

but you would have to tap my steering at the same time as well

you mean as a trade for it? Or tap it in addition to buying it?
10-31-2006, 06:04 PM
AggieTJ2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Krebs

you mean as a trade for it? Or tap it in addition to buying it?

in addition
10-31-2006, 06:04 PM
AggieTJ2007

I fixxed the post you are to fast
10-31-2006, 06:08 PM
AggieTJ2007

Oh and I can send it to you along w/ my steering this weekend
10-31-2006, 06:09 PM
Doug Krebs

Quote:

Originally Posted by AggieTJ2007

Oh and I can send it to you along w/ my steering this weekend

You realize it sucks to tap it right? It takes a decent amount of time, plus my taps...

Do you need both tierod and drag link?

P.S. What material do you have anyways?
10-31-2006, 06:16 PM
AggieTJ2007

how bad is taping it, I am sure we can work something out.

The material that I have is an A513/5 1020 DOM 1.50x.375
10-31-2006, 06:23 PM
Doug Krebs

Well it's fine thread...

So basically I chuck it up in the lathe and face it off. That takes all of 60 seconds. Then depending on how deep you want it, I sit there with a crescent wrench and tap it by hand using the tailstock to hold the tap concentric.

It just takes a while, probably 15-20 minutes a hole, depending on depth. Ask Brian Ritchey or Robert Sharpe, I'm not sure I've let anyone else do it. I think I let Garrett have fun also.
10-31-2006, 06:26 PM
AggieTJ2007

let me see, Ill give you the tube for $15 if you tap mine as well
10-31-2006, 06:37 PM
fbronco86

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Krebs

Well it's fine thread...

So basically I chuck it up in the lathe and face it off. That takes all of 60 seconds. Then depending on how deep you want it, I sit there with a crescent wrench and tap it by hand using the tailstock to hold the tap concentric.

It just takes a while, probably 15-20 minutes a hole, depending on depth. Ask Brian Ritchey or Robert Sharpe, I'm not sure I've let anyone else do it. I think I let Garrett have fun also.

And all this just costs you time since the school owns all this equipment. JEW
10-31-2006, 06:42 PM
robertf03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Krebs

Well it's fine thread...

So basically I chuck it up in the lathe and face it off. That takes all of 60 seconds. Then depending on how deep you want it, I sit there with a crescent wrench and tap it by hand using the tailstock to hold the tap concentric.

If you've got a manual lathe that starts at full speed tap under power. we do it all the time at work and it's never broken or dulled a tap. lowest speed and just bump it on and off, back it out when it spins in the chuck. Use a ton of tap magic or similar lube on the tap and run coolant on the outside of the material.
10-31-2006, 06:52 PM
agjohn02

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Originally Posted by robertf03

If you've got a manual lathe that starts at full speed tap under power. we do it all the time at work and it's never broken or dulled a tap. lowest speed and just bump it on and off, back it out when it spins in the chuck. Use a ton of tap magic or similar lube on the tap and run coolant on the outside of the material.

i know it works but it sounds so dangerous for expensive taps. i definately wouldnt let someone do that with my borrowed tap.
10-31-2006, 06:54 PM
robertf03

I'll bet I'm using more expensive taps than you are ;)

Just single tool the fawker with a boring bar.
10-31-2006, 07:23 PM
Doug Krebs

Quote:

Originally Posted by fbronco86

And all this just costs you time since the school owns all this equipment. JEW

Hi, I pay for taps! Thats why I let people come in and do it if they want and I don't charge them to use the machine.

P.S. Hello Pot!
10-31-2006, 07:39 PM
agjohn02

Quote:

Originally Posted by robertf03

I'll bet I'm using more expensive taps than you are ;)

Just single tool the fawker with a boring bar.

yes, but the definition of expensive changes drastically when you are the one that pays for them. (i.e.- doug)
10-31-2006, 09:24 PM
Doug Krebs

Quote:

Originally Posted by AggieTJ2007

let me see, Ill give you the tube for $15 if you tap mine as well

Tie rod and draglink?

Originally I told people $10 per link I believe. So each side was $5... Aren't weld in bungs like $10 a piece? I think $5 a side with me doing the labor is pretty good.
10-31-2006, 09:44 PM
fbronco86

Quote:

Originally Posted by robertf03

I'll bet I'm using more you are ;)

Just single tool the fawker with a boring bar.

Yeah just single point the threads in place. Some kinda machinist you are haha. Who trained you anyway :flipoff2:
10-31-2006, 09:53 PM
robertf03

whats wrong with doing it that way?
10-31-2006, 11:23 PM
Doug Krebs

Quote:

Originally Posted by robertf03

whats wrong with doing it that way?

Don't try to understand robert, just move on!
11-01-2006, 12:34 AM
AggieTJ2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Krebs

Tie rod and draglink?

Originally I told people $10 per link I believe. So each side was $5... Aren't weld in bungs like $10 a piece? I think $5 a side with me doing the labor is pretty good.

yeah tie rod and drag link, it sounds like a good deal since the tube is worth about $30
11-01-2006, 02:10 AM
Reckless

What kind of transport fees is creighton willing to pay for me?
11-01-2006, 09:18 AM
Doug Krebs

Quote:

Originally Posted by AggieTJ2007

yeah tie rod and drag link, it sounds like a good deal since the tube is worth about $30

15 is fine, i was just justifying my JEW expenses...

although, I hate pulling a crecsent wrench for an hour, but I do realize you had to go pick up the tube, etc...
11-01-2006, 09:19 AM
Doug Krebs

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Originally Posted by Reckless

What kind of transport fees is creighton willing to pay for me?

slap on the ass? Search for the chadnutz thread, I think something like .36 cents a mile. You'll be rich!
11-01-2006, 09:23 AM
jerryg79

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Krebs

slap on the ass? Search for the chadnutz thread, I think something like .36 cents a mile. You'll be rich!

Dude diesel was like a buck fitty back then, it has to have gone up to around $.54/mile.
11-01-2006, 12:37 PM
AggieTJ2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reckless

What kind of transport fees is creighton willing to pay for me?

beer
11-01-2006, 12:38 PM
AggieTJ2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Krebs

15 is fine, i was just justifying my JEW expenses...

although, I hate pulling a crecsent wrench for an hour, but I do realize you had to go pick up the tube, etc...

sounds good, you also don't have to get my tube done this weekend, ill grab it the next time I am down/around there or someone heads north
04-04-2008, 08:09 PM
agjohn02

Quote:

Originally Posted by robertf03

If you've got a manual lathe that starts at full speed tap under power. we do it all the time at work and it's never broken or dulled a tap. lowest speed and just bump it on and off, back it out when it spins in the chuck. Use a ton of tap magic or similar lube on the tap and run coolant on the outside of the material.

one of the few things ive never done on a lathe. looks easy enough. ill try it next time im in the machine shop.

http://www.pirate4x4.tv/lathelink.html
04-04-2008, 09:10 PM
robertf03

wow, I'm no expert but that video makes me cringe

I think if I ever own a shop I'd fire someone on the spot for storing the chuck handle in the lathe, and lack of safety goggles is pretty sweet too.

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