Random Tech Questions

[DRAGOONRANCH]

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[JB]

What is going on here?
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...t=1356+doubler

Is this just the front half of a 1356 bolted to another complete 1356? With only adding about 1/2" of overall length? Or am I confused?

nvm, adds 8 7/8"

would be an easy doubler if it didnt require new trans crossmember, skid, and driveshafts.

[KrazyKarl02]

What is going on here?
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...t=1356+doubler

Is this just the front half of a 1356 bolted to another complete 1356? With only adding about 1/2" of overall length? Or am I confused?

nvm, adds 8 7/8"

would be an easy doubler if it didnt require new trans crossmember, skid, and driveshafts.

That is outstanding and just like big foot!

[JB]

huh?

[RCcola55]

im sure there is a way to modify your existing cross member to make it work

[KrazyKarl02]

The 1356 doubler is like big foot. Seems like it would exist, you can find photos on the internet, but until now no one has seen one in real life!

[stx4wheeler]

http://www.texas4x4.org/showthread.php?t=36477

This kit is double the price but it is meant for a 205, and you dont have to shift the rails out of the fawking rear of the case.

[KrazyKarl02]

Topic: Combating antiwrap in a leaf sprung axle

There are a few ways to do this:

1) Anti-wrap bar - Requires some mild fab, people seem to have an issue with tabs and mounting systems ripping off or shearing. I think this is the most effective way to combat anti-wrap, Cost once you buy heims or bushings and some tube is probably around $100 and 4 hours of work.
2) Anti-wrap leaf - Alcan Spring can make an "add-a-leaf" with a military wrap around the spring eye. So flex would be equivalent if not a little better than a full add-a-leaf. Surprisingly the guy from Alcan said it would only be $40 per spring, but you have to ship your existing spring there and have him ship back, so cost would probably be around $130 per set. I think these would control wrap better than a full length anti-wrap
3) Full length "Add-a-leafs" - Superlift and others offer them. The full length leaf decreases flex some, but not as much as a short add a leaf. It also provides a little lift and cost is low ($80), probably cheaper than a anti-wrap bar, but not as effective
4) Cut the eyes off of another main leaf and make your own full length "add-a-leaf" - Ghetto, but I have heard this is effective, price could be cheap to free depending on your pile of spare parts
5) "Bend Clips" - The things wrapped around a pack of leaf springs. I think these help by tieing all the springs together, but I also think they limit flex.
6) Anti-wrap/extended leaf spring mounts - I have zero experience with this and question if they would even work? You guys? Cost is cheap, but somewhat harder to install


So what are you guys comments about these? I listed the above in order of effectiveness in my mind (so 1 is most effective, 6 is least). I ask because I am thinking of going with an anti-wrap bar and some sort of extra wrap inhibiting leaf in the pack.

[redcagepatrol]

you forgot the 4-link... I'm sure Kolpecki will chime in...

just run an anti-wrap bar and call it done. If you actually have decent fabricating skills and design it tight, you won't rip it off...

All of that other stuff will limit flexability and won't be as effective.

[bburris]

Those leaf clips don't do a damn thing for wrap.

[redcagepatrol]

you forgot the 4-link... I'm sure Kolpecki will chime in...

just run an anti-wrap bar and call it done. If you actually have decent fabricating skills and design it tight, you won't rip it off...

All of that other stuff will limit flexability and won't be as effective.

There are a few pics of Lyndas on here:
http://www.tamor.org/forums/showthre...t=6982&page=27

[davido]

Anti-wrap bar. Easy. This was the first mount I've broken off, so not a bad track record. Use tractor heims for optimal performance.

[KrazyKarl02]

you forgot the 4-link... I'm sure Kolpecki will chime in...

I meant to post, keep your damn coil spring stuff out, I am limiting this conversation to leafs.

[KrazyKarl02]

There are a few pics of Lyndas on here:
http://www.tamor.org/forums/showthre...t=6982&page=27

What did you do about wrap on the front axle?

[redcagepatrol]

What did you do about wrap on the front axle?

nothing yet - it was on the list for this trip and the last one, never got done. I need to do it, just don't like messing with it since nothing has broken yet...